Re: Re: Traveling Nebulizer Needed

[Guest guest]

We have a Pari Trek S. I bought it used from eBay for about $50 last year.

Insurance would have theoretically covered a new one, but I wasn't up for

dealing with them. If you decide to buy a used Pari Trek, be sure to get

the S model if you want to be able to rely on the battery. We switched to

the newer version because you can charge the battery while using the

compressor. The old version had to be charged when the machine wasn't in

use, which meant that I never meant to charge it. Here is a link to the one

that we have now.

http://www.pari.com/pdd/trek-s.htm

[Guest guest]

When checking out portable nebulizers - tell them the medications you are

nebbing. One of the meds I use is Pulmacort. The molecule is too large for

many of the models. I would have never known had the sales person not asked me

what meds I was using.

Suzanne

-----Original Message-----

From: DougB <uca79iii@...>

Sent: Sun, Oct 31, 2010 8:22 am

Subject: [ ] Re: Traveling Nebulizer Needed

>

> Hello,

>

> I am looking for a traveling 12 volt/battery operated nebulizer to buy. If you

know of one please contact me. Much appreciated.

>

>

>

,

This is the one I have:

http://www.staywellsupplies.com/DeVilbiss-Traveler-Portable-Compressor-Nebulizer\

-System/A/B001S6CB5W.htm

There are several other models on the market too. I would ask your medical

supply store or get your doctor to recommend one to you.

Do a web search too.

Doug

Group founder

On a nebulizer since 1987

[Guest guest]

The ultrasonic ones (eg Omron's little models) cannot neb pulmicort. The stuff

foams and all the good drug is left behind! As Suzanne said, the molecule in

solution is too big. Perhaps our resident PharmD could comment?

C

________________________________

From: " SuzFisher@... " <SuzFisher@...>

Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 2:33:52 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Traveling Nebulizer Needed

When checking out portable nebulizers - tell them the medications you are

nebbing. One of the meds I use is Pulmacort. The molecule is too large for

many of the models. I would have never known had the sales person not asked me

what meds I was using.

Suzanne

-----Original Message-----

From: DougB <uca79iii@...>

Sent: Sun, Oct 31, 2010 8:22 am

Subject: [ ] Re: Traveling Nebulizer Needed

>

> Hello,

>

> I am looking for a traveling 12 volt/battery operated nebulizer to buy. If you

>know of one please contact me. Much appreciated.

>

>

>

,

This is the one I have:

http://www.staywellsupplies.com/DeVilbiss-Traveler-Portable-Compressor-Nebulizer\

-System/A/B001S6CB5W.htm

There are several other models on the market too. I would ask your medical

supply store or get your doctor to recommend one to you.

Do a web search too.

Doug

Group founder

On a nebulizer since 1987

[Guest guest]

Omron is a vibrating mesh ultrasonic delivery device, vs a jet nebulization

device.

Anultrasonic vibrating mesh will liberate particles through vibrating plates and

pressure of the solution behind it

The Jet nebulizing method is what is recommeded with pulmicort respules. Jet

nebulization forces a tiny jet of air which passes through an open reservoir,

lowering air pressure, and thus liberating very small particles from the

reservoir up into the tube that leads to the inhalation mouthpiece

Because pulmicort respules is a suspension compared to a solution (of albuterol

or ipratropium). The particles of the drug are not homogeneously dispersed

throughout the liquid -- this is why it looks a tad bit cloudy. A suspension's

particles are large enough to not pass efficiently through the vibrating mesh,

and eventually clog it up.

Think of tap water in your garden hose. Although it is water, there are a lot of

other solutes in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium carbonate, magnesium, etc.

Think of a screen porch, and blasting water through a hose through the screen.

Water and all the solutes listed above pass easily through because they are in

solution, just like albuterol is a solution. The porch screen is analagous to

the holes in a vibrating mesh screen.

Now think about tossing a bucket of muddy water through the porch screen.

Obviously, a lot of the particles of dirt/mud will get stuck and clog up the

porch screen. That's b/c mud is a suspension of a lot of very large particles of

dirt that are not in solution like the water in a garden hose. the mud would be

the analogy of pulmicort respules trying to get through a vibrating mesh

ultrasonic nebulizer.

________________________________

From: <carrie72583@...>

Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 8:36:55 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Traveling Nebulizer Needed

The ultrasonic ones (eg Omron's little models) cannot neb pulmicort. The stuff

foams and all the good drug is left behind! As Suzanne said, the molecule in

solution is too big. Perhaps our resident PharmD could comment?

C

________________________________

From: " SuzFisher@... " <SuzFisher@...>

Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 2:33:52 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Traveling Nebulizer Needed

When checking out portable nebulizers - tell them the medications you are

nebbing. One of the meds I use is Pulmacort. The molecule is too large for

many of the models. I would have never known had the sales person not asked me

what meds I was using.

Suzanne

-----Original Message-----

From: DougB <uca79iii@...>

Sent: Sun, Oct 31, 2010 8:22 am

Subject: [ ] Re: Traveling Nebulizer Needed

>

> Hello,

>

> I am looking for a traveling 12 volt/battery operated nebulizer to buy. If you

>know of one please contact me. Much appreciated.

>

>

>

,

This is the one I have:

http://www.staywellsupplies.com/DeVilbiss-Traveler-Portable-Compressor-Nebulizer\

-System/A/B001S6CB5W.htm

There are several other models on the market too. I would ask your medical

supply store or get your doctor to recommend one to you.

Do a web search too.

Doug

Group founder

On a nebulizer since 1987

[Guest guest]

Thank you!!  We are very lucky to have you on board. Did we ever tell you

that?!

________________________________

From: GW <fpa9@...>

Sent: Mon, November 1, 2010 6:11:11 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Traveling Nebulizer Needed

 

Omron is a vibrating mesh ultrasonic delivery device, vs a jet nebulization

device.

Anultrasonic vibrating mesh will liberate particles through vibrating plates and

pressure of the solution behind it

The Jet nebulizing method is what is recommeded with pulmicort respules. Jet

nebulization forces a tiny jet of air which passes through an open reservoir,

lowering air pressure, and thus liberating very small particles from the

reservoir up into the tube that leads to the inhalation mouthpiece

Because pulmicort respules is a suspension compared to a solution (of albuterol

or ipratropium). The particles of the drug are not homogeneously dispersed

throughout the liquid -- this is why it looks a tad bit cloudy. A suspension's

particles are large enough to not pass efficiently through the vibrating mesh,

and eventually clog it up.

Think of tap water in your garden hose. Although it is water, there are a lot of

other solutes in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium carbonate, magnesium, etc.

Think of a screen porch, and blasting water through a hose through the screen.

Water and all the solutes listed above pass easily through because they are in

solution, just like albuterol is a solution. The porch screen is analagous to

the holes in a vibrating mesh screen.

Now think about tossing a bucket of muddy water through the porch screen.

Obviously, a lot of the particles of dirt/mud will get stuck and clog up the

porch screen. That's b/c mud is a suspension of a lot of very large particles of

dirt that are not in solution like the water in a garden hose. the mud would be

the analogy of pulmicort respules trying to get through a vibrating mesh

ultrasonic nebulizer.

________________________________

From: <carrie72583@...>

Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 8:36:55 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Traveling Nebulizer Needed

The ultrasonic ones (eg Omron's little models) cannot neb pulmicort. The stuff

foams and all the good drug is left behind! As Suzanne said, the molecule in

solution is too big. Perhaps our resident PharmD could comment?

C

________________________________

From: " SuzFisher@... " <SuzFisher@...>

Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 2:33:52 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Traveling Nebulizer Needed

When checking out portable nebulizers - tell them the medications you are

nebbing. One of the meds I use is Pulmacort. The molecule is too large for

many of the models. I would have never known had the sales person not asked me

what meds I was using.

Suzanne

-----Original Message-----

From: DougB <uca79iii@...>

Sent: Sun, Oct 31, 2010 8:22 am

Subject: [ ] Re: Traveling Nebulizer Needed

>

> Hello,

>

> I am looking for a traveling 12 volt/battery operated nebulizer to buy. If you

>know of one please contact me. Much appreciated.

>

>

>

,

This is the one I have:

http://www.staywellsupplies.com/DeVilbiss-Traveler-Portable-Compressor-Nebulizer\

-System/A/B001S6CB5W.htm

There are several other models on the market too. I would ask your medical

supply store or get your doctor to recommend one to you.

Do a web search too.

Doug

Group founder

On a nebulizer since 1987

[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

Glad to help out when I can. Admittedly I don't check on all the posts too

often, b/c they are voluminous (and that's a good thing), and it also goes to my

spam folder -- so I have to be active in searching things out.

Thanks for the kudos again,

Glenn

________________________________

From: <carrie72583@...>

Sent: Mon, November 1, 2010 8:32:59 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Traveling Nebulizer Needed

Thank you!! We are very lucky to have you on board. Did we ever tell you that?!

________________________________

From: GW <fpa9@...>

Sent: Mon, November 1, 2010 6:11:11 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Traveling Nebulizer Needed

Omron is a vibrating mesh ultrasonic delivery device, vs a jet nebulization

device.

Anultrasonic vibrating mesh will liberate particles through vibrating plates and

pressure of the solution behind it

The Jet nebulizing method is what is recommeded with pulmicort respules. Jet

nebulization forces a tiny jet of air which passes through an open reservoir,

lowering air pressure, and thus liberating very small particles from the

reservoir up into the tube that leads to the inhalation mouthpiece

Because pulmicort respules is a suspension compared to a solution (of albuterol

or ipratropium). The particles of the drug are not homogeneously dispersed

throughout the liquid -- this is why it looks a tad bit cloudy. A suspension's

particles are large enough to not pass efficiently through the vibrating mesh,

and eventually clog it up.

Think of tap water in your garden hose. Although it is water, there are a lot of

other solutes in it, like sodium, potassium, calcium carbonate, magnesium, etc.

Think of a screen porch, and blasting water through a hose through the screen.

Water and all the solutes listed above pass easily through because they are in

solution, just like albuterol is a solution. The porch screen is analagous to

the holes in a vibrating mesh screen.

Now think about tossing a bucket of muddy water through the porch screen.

Obviously, a lot of the particles of dirt/mud will get stuck and clog up the

porch screen. That's b/c mud is a suspension of a lot of very large particles of

dirt that are not in solution like the water in a garden hose. the mud would be

the analogy of pulmicort respules trying to get through a vibrating mesh

ultrasonic nebulizer.

________________________________

From: <carrie72583@...>

Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 8:36:55 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Traveling Nebulizer Needed

The ultrasonic ones (eg Omron's little models) cannot neb pulmicort. The stuff

foams and all the good drug is left behind! As Suzanne said, the molecule in

solution is too big. Perhaps our resident PharmD could comment?

C

________________________________

From: " SuzFisher@... " <SuzFisher@...>

Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 2:33:52 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Traveling Nebulizer Needed

When checking out portable nebulizers - tell them the medications you are

nebbing. One of the meds I use is Pulmacort. The molecule is too large for

many of the models. I would have never known had the sales person not asked me

what meds I was using.

Suzanne

-----Original Message-----

From: DougB <uca79iii@...>

Sent: Sun, Oct 31, 2010 8:22 am

Subject: [ ] Re: Traveling Nebulizer Needed

>

> Hello,

>

> I am looking for a traveling 12 volt/battery operated nebulizer to buy. If you

>know of one please contact me. Much appreciated.

>

>

>

,

This is the one I have:

http://www.staywellsupplies.com/DeVilbiss-Traveler-Portable-Compressor-Nebulizer\

-System/A/B001S6CB5W.htm

There are several other models on the market too. I would ask your medical

supply store or get your doctor to recommend one to you.

Do a web search too.

Doug

Group founder

On a nebulizer since 1987

[Guest guest]

ARE YOU GOING ON YOUR TRIP BY CAR? 

WHILE I HAVE THE OMRON, WHEN I AM IN THE CAR, I USE THE REGULAR PARI NEBBER WITH

A CONVERTER/ADAPTER WHICH YOU PLUG INTO THE CIGARETTE LIGHTER.  WE HAPPENED TO

FIND THIS DEVICE AT A ROSS BUT I HAVE ALSO NOTICED THEM AT TRUCK STOPS (WE MAKE

A 16 HOUR DRIVE TO NJ IN DENVER EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS SO WE KNOW ALL THE STOPS

LOL).  THESE DEVICES COME IN DIFFERENT POWER STRENGTHS.

WHEN I AM ON THE ROAD, I ALWAYS MAKE SURE I HAVE BACK UPS FOR THINGS LIKE

NEBBERS, DIABETES METERS, ETC. BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET TO KANSAS, THERE " AIN'T

NOTHING " IN MOST TOWNS.  I ALSO OVER PACK MEDS, ETC. 

HOPE THIS HELPS,

ASH

________________________________

From: <carrie72583@...>

Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 7:36:55 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Traveling Nebulizer Needed

 

The ultrasonic ones (eg Omron's little models) cannot neb pulmicort. The stuff

foams and all the good drug is left behind! As Suzanne said, the molecule in

solution is too big. Perhaps our resident PharmD could comment?

C

________________________________

From: " SuzFisher@... " <SuzFisher@...>

Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 2:33:52 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Traveling Nebulizer Needed

When checking out portable nebulizers - tell them the medications you are

nebbing. One of the meds I use is Pulmacort. The molecule is too large for

many of the models. I would have never known had the sales person not asked me

what meds I was using.

Suzanne

-----Original Message-----

From: DougB <uca79iii@...>

Sent: Sun, Oct 31, 2010 8:22 am

Subject: [ ] Re: Traveling Nebulizer Needed

>

> Hello,

>

> I am looking for a traveling 12 volt/battery operated nebulizer to buy. If you

>know of one please contact me. Much appreciated.

>

>

>

,

This is the one I have:

http://www.staywellsupplies.com/DeVilbiss-Traveler-Portable-Compressor-Nebulizer\

-System/A/B001S6CB5W.htm

There are several other models on the market too. I would ask your medical

supply store or get your doctor to recommend one to you.

Do a web search too.

Doug

Group founder

On a nebulizer since 1987