Re: Just wondering....

[Guest guest]

--- Good to see your interest in this madness, I am one of the ill from

the anthrax vaccine from Dover AFB, and getting treated like s__t for it

from the military. A point in fact you may want to know about this nation,

the US was the primary designer of the Nurembourg, but the US did NOT sign

it. It makes me think of what I was told as a kid, " do what you're told, not

what you want " ; I wish I could firmly convey that onto the higher ups at

today's US military!!!

[Guest guest]

The Neuremburg code, like the Helsinki accords are treaties, not international

law. They are guidelines, but as I understand it they will not stand up in

court. However, I am not a lawyer, just a student of miilitary justice.

Hugz back,

Jeff Swan

L C wrote:

> From: " L C " <ithinkiamfunny@...>

>

> It's me, again.

>

> I was wondering about the Nurembourg Code. If the gov't plans on using

> an IND and AVIP, then why aren't they following the rules of the Nurembourg

> Code? Is it that since we are the most powerful nation in the world we can

> " make and break " the rules? I'm sorry, there's no waiver to this rule. Not

> even the most eloquent and intelligent lawyer or politician in the world can

> create a legitament waiver for this one. Just wondering. Much Love,

>

[Guest guest]

(Va.) said:

I have both of the below listed back problems [ankylosing spondylitis and

spondylolisthesis]....just curious does anyone out there have both of these

along with P and PA?

Yes, I have both. My understanding of spondylolisthesis, however, is that it is

a mechanical condition that comes and goes, not a disease process. It's more

like a sprained ankle--you're disk is out of place but can slip back or be put

back through a variety of means, including stretching exercises. Unlike

ankylosing spondylitis, you don't necessarily have spondylolisthesis forever.

But, the inflammation, pain and posture problems from ankylosing spondylitis can

exacerbate the other condition, making it hard to keep that disk in place.

M.

[Guest guest]

The serum negative type is PA usually.

[Guest guest]

I'm 39. Why do you want to try a different doc? But no matter the

reason, I see no reason why you shouldn't, even if it just to get a

second opinion.

Bridget

> hi guys it me .... i was just wondering what are the age group

> of the majority of the members here? just curious..... plus is

> there a problem if i told my doctor who i have been seing for 5

> years now that i would like to try someone else?

>

> omar,22,ny

[Guest guest]

I'm 59, . I think the ages are a full range from young to not so

young.

You have the right to ask for a different doc but sometimes when you

ask, they try to give you a hard time. I think they see it as a

personal insult. Sometimes they need to be insulted. My first

cardiologist completely misdiagnosed me and I nearly died. I got a new

cardiologist who recognized all the symptoms and put me on the road to

recovery.

Mike

On Saturday, June 28, 2003, at 06:18 PM, valleycommunications2004 wrote:

> hi guys it me .... i was just wondering what are the age group

> of the majority of the members here? just curious..... plus is

> there a problem if i told my doctor who i have been seing for 5

> years now that i would like to try someone else?

>

> omar,22,ny

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi - I'm 24. I've switched doctors 4 times - 2 of which I wanted to do,

and the last 2 were because of insurance changes and the doctor leaving.

Each time I switched I got better care, so I'm a strong advocate of 'second'

opinions etc. If you feel that you need to change, by all means do it -

could be for the best.

Good luck!

>From: " valleycommunications2004 " <valleycommunications2004@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: just wondering....

>Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 01:18:30 -0000

>

>hi guys it me .... i was just wondering what are the age group

>of the majority of the members here? just curious..... plus is

>there a problem if i told my doctor who i have been seing for 5

>years now that i would like to try someone else?

>

> omar,22,ny

>

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Hello :

I am 42 years old. I have changed doctor 3 times and going on my 4th. i am very happy eps specialist whom i had for 12 years except for 2 because of insurance reasons. I think afterall he is the most important guy because of the ICD. Now again because of the insurance again i have to find a new eps guy so i am petrified as well. but i agree with jennifer everytime i changed doctors i have got a better care. It is always better to get a second oppinion if you have any doubts. Good luck. TURK

PS: Nice to have you aboard.

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I was also wondering what MCT oil was.On Sep 24, 2008, at 8:04 AM, kariebhere wrote:I'm on my 7th VLCD and have lost 9 pounds (6 real) so far. I'm stickingpretty close to the protocol, but I am spreading out my two meals withthe breadsticks and the fruit. I've had quite a bit of hunger,headaches, but keep drinking lots of water and tea. I bought the kitosis(sp) sticks and so far I'm not burning any fat. I might have mixed my5000 IU's bad. I used mamaclock's recipe, but I kind of shook insteadof swirled and left a view white looking bubbles in the bottom. Don'task me why except I think I was nervous and .....I'm just not sure. Youwould of thought I was going to inject the stuff! chicken. bock, bock.Anyone have any suggestions for my fat burning and hunger? I thought Imight try the Organic CO and what is MCT oil exactly?

[Guest guest]

Medium Chain Trigycerides, also found in coconut oil, about 40-55% MCT in that.

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Re: Just wondering....

I was also wondering what MCT oil was.

On Sep 24, 2008, at 8:04 AM, kariebhere wrote:

I'm on my 7th VLCD and have lost 9 pounds (6 real) so far. I'm stickingpretty close to the protocol, but I am spreading out my two meals withthe breadsticks and the fruit. I've had quite a bit of hunger,headaches, but keep drinking lots of water and tea. I bought the kitosis(sp) sticks and so far I'm not burning any fat. I might have mixed my5000 IU's bad. I used mamaclock's recipe, but I kind of shook insteadof swirled and left a view white looking bubbles in the bottom. Don'task me why except I think I was nervous and .....I'm just not sure. Youwould of thought I was going to inject the stuff! chicken. bock, bock.Anyone have any suggestions for my fat burning and hunger? I thought Imight try the Organic CO and what is MCT oil exactly?

[Guest guest]

Hi Sara

Out of about 6 epidurals I had over 2 years, only one gave me relief, the rest

hurt more than made me feel better.

This month I had an L5 block as well as S1-3 block and you know what- I have had

relief!!!

So it maybe that the epidural is not what you need. You need to tell the MD

what you are experiencing so that they know.

It maybe they need to try a block instead.

Sorry your having to go through this, I swear its just trial and error.

Hang in there and keep trying though.

RN

Just Wondering....

I am sure someone has had and Epidural Injection. I had one last

Wednesday in the Lumbar part of of my spine. When does one start

feeling relief of any kind? And is it supposed to make the area, the

spinal area, that it was injected into hurt worse than it did before?

Oh My Goodness! I don't even know how to tell my Dr that it is more

painful than it was before. Is there anything I can do to lessen it?

Thanks!

Sara

[Guest guest]

Its driving me crazy! Seriously, And I am so scared to say anything, I am scared

they are going to think I am a drug seeker and that I am just depressed and

whatever else they say, the other doctors I saw actually said that to me....that

I was just depressed. OMG they made me crazy. Everytime I see the new dr, and he

tells me something I cry, because I feel like he is hope for me, but I am scared

to death to tell him I need something for the pain...I don't care what it is, I

just can't deal with this anymore! ARGHHHHHH

From: <wendy.tom@...>

Subject: RE: Just Wondering....

spinal problems

Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 7:48 AM

Hi Sara

Out of about 6 epidurals I had over 2 years, only one gave me relief, the rest

hurt more than made me feel better.

This month I had an L5 block as well as S1-3 block and you know what- I have had

relief!!!

So it maybe that the epidural is not what you need. You need to tell the MD

what you are experiencing so that they know.

It maybe they need to try a block instead.

Sorry your having to go through this, I swear its just trial and error.

Hang in there and keep trying though.

RN

Just Wondering... .

I am sure someone has had and Epidural Injection. I had one last

Wednesday in the Lumbar part of of my spine. When does one start

feeling relief of any kind? And is it supposed to make the area, the

spinal area, that it was injected into hurt worse than it did before?

Oh My Goodness! I don't even know how to tell my Dr that it is more

painful than it was before. Is there anything I can do to lessen it?

Thanks!

Sara

[Guest guest]

Dont be scared, tell him its worse and ask for something- they usually dont want

to give you percocet off the bat, so ask for Vicodin.

Have you had that? If so and it didnt work tell him and ask for low dose

percocet, tell him you need some pain relief.

Describe your pain vividly for him.

It that lyrica isnt working, again I do recomment cymbalta -30 mg is the lowest

dose, ask if you can try that, once a day- I take it in the morning and it does

help with the way the brain processes pain, increases the serotonin.

Im sure he will be happy to write that script for you, and ask for vicodin.

I had to work up - first it was Darvocet which did nothing, ultram which didnt

help, than vicodin which didnt help me either, and then low dose percocet which

finally was helpful. Luckily that is enough for me, but some people need to go

more- as others on the group will tell you, something longer acting.

Dont worry about what your MD thinks, your the one in pain.

Also you may want to keep a pain journal so when you see him you can show him

and he knows you are serious (not that your are not now, but it will justify

your case.)

RN

Just Wondering... .

I am sure someone has had and Epidural Injection. I had one last

Wednesday in the Lumbar part of of my spine. When does one start

feeling relief of any kind? And is it supposed to make the area, the

spinal area, that it was injected into hurt worse than it did before?

Oh My Goodness! I don't even know how to tell my Dr that it is more

painful than it was before. Is there anything I can do to lessen it?

Thanks!

Sara

[Guest guest]

I have had vicodin, it doesn't do anything but make me spacey and really hyper!

I never thought about keeping a pain journal, maybe that is something I will

start doing. Sometimes it is really hard to explain to the dr exactly what is

going on. I am not sure what they can do right now, I have a discogram coming up

on the 4th and I know I am not supposed to take a lot of things if anything. I

am really scared about that, especially since this epidural has hurts as much as

it has. I feel like a wimp...

From: <wendy.tom@earthlink .net>

Subject: RE: Just Wondering... .

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 7:48 AM

Hi Sara

Out of about 6 epidurals I had over 2 years, only one gave me relief, the rest

hurt more than made me feel better.

This month I had an L5 block as well as S1-3 block and you know what- I have had

relief!!!

So it maybe that the epidural is not what you need. You need to tell the MD what

you are experiencing so that they know.

It maybe they need to try a block instead.

Sorry your having to go through this, I swear its just trial and error.

Hang in there and keep trying though.

RN

Just Wondering... .

I am sure someone has had and Epidural Injection. I had one last

Wednesday in the Lumbar part of of my spine. When does one start

feeling relief of any kind? And is it supposed to make the area, the

spinal area, that it was injected into hurt worse than it did before?

Oh My Goodness! I don't even know how to tell my Dr that it is more

painful than it was before. Is there anything I can do to lessen it?

Thanks!

Sara

[Guest guest]

Okay so you have had Vicodin and it didnt do anything for you, well than ask for

percocet- ask if you can start with the lowest dose and see how that works for

you.

Also use ice packs to the area that hurts, that is very helpful.

Im afraid I dont know about the discogram, I was supposed to have one and it was

put off as the MD is going to do radiofrequency to my L5-S3 since I have been

doing well with the block.

But others on this group have had it, sounds like the pain doesnt last too long

after you have it, maybe a few days of discomfort.

Epidural is probably worse...

Just Wondering... .

I am sure someone has had and Epidural Injection. I had one last

Wednesday in the Lumbar part of of my spine. When does one start

feeling relief of any kind? And is it supposed to make the area, the

spinal area, that it was injected into hurt worse than it did before?

Oh My Goodness! I don't even know how to tell my Dr that it is more

painful than it was before. Is there anything I can do to lessen it?

Thanks!

Sara

[Guest guest]

I am about to have my 3rd discogram in 8 years - you can actually take

your pain meds like you normally do, but I wouldn't take them right

before the procedure - the doc relies on your answers and if you don't

feel some of the pain, it skews the test. I'm not gonna lie -

discograms are not fun. But it's temporary and very helpful to your

doctor. Of course, pain is subjective, but I would say it's not any

more painful than your worst pain. I don't know if that makes you

feel better or worse! : )

I understand how you feel about worrying that the doc thinks you are a

drug seeker. But they know what to look for in terms of spotting

addicts, and just because you say you are in pain and are in more pain

since your shot, doesn't mean he will think anything. I would not ask

for specific drugs though - that may be a red flag to some docs. I

would do like someone suggested and do a pain diary and try to

describe your pain as best you can - is it shooting, sharp, dull,

aching, constant, etc... that will help the doc figure out what to do

next. I have had probably 30 injections from blocks to facet blocks

to steroid injections and only one gave me relief - the very first one.

What kind of doc are you seeing - a pain management doc?

Jenn

> RE: Just Wondering....

>

>

> I have had vicodin, it doesn't do anything but make me spacey and

really hyper! I never thought about keeping a pain journal, maybe that

is something I will start doing. Sometimes it is really hard to

explain to the dr exactly what is going on. I am not sure what they

can do right now, I have a discogram coming up on the 4th and I know I

am not supposed to take a lot of things if anything. I am really

scared about that, especially since this epidural has hurts as much as

it has. I feel like a wimp...

>

[Guest guest]

I know what you mean Sara, I'm afraid to ask me PM for stronger pain relief for

the same reasons. He has me on fairly strong meds right now, and keeps referring

to respiratory suppression, (not sure if I'm saying that right). I do understand

the concern though, it really scares me with the combination I am taking, he has

cut me back on the muscle relaxers also. I just try to keep in mind that this is

something I am going to have to accept in my life and the sooner I do accept the

better I will be, just keep trying to work with them in reassuring you doctor

that you are not a seeker in drug enjoyment, but a seeker in pain relief.

Hopes & wishes you find the way to get the relief you need.

 

Bama,

 

The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of sagacity,

but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

                                                                            

________________________________

From: Sara Saupe <sbs_1975@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:56:35 AM

Subject: RE: Just Wondering.....

Its driving me crazy! Seriously, And I am so scared to say anything, I am scared

they are going to think I am a drug seeker and that I am just depressed and

whatever else they say, the other doctors I saw actually said that to me....that

I was just depressed. OMG they made me crazy. Everytime I see the new dr, and he

tells me something I cry, because I feel like he is hope for me, but I am scared

to death to tell him I need something for the pain...I don't care what it is, I

just can't deal with this anymore! ARGHHHHHH

From: <wendy.tom@earthlink .net>

Subject: RE: Just Wondering... .

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 7:48 AM

Hi Sara

Out of about 6 epidurals I had over 2 years, only one gave me relief, the rest

hurt more than made me feel better.

This month I had an L5 block as well as S1-3 block and you know what- I have had

relief!!!

So it maybe that the epidural is not what you need. You need to tell the MD what

you are experiencing so that they know.

It maybe they need to try a block instead.

Sorry your having to go through this, I swear its just trial and error.

Hang in there and keep trying though.

RN

Just Wondering... .

I am sure someone has had and Epidural Injection. I had one last

Wednesday in the Lumbar part of of my spine. When does one start

feeling relief of any kind? And is it supposed to make the area, the

spinal area, that it was injected into hurt worse than it did before?

Oh My Goodness! I don't even know how to tell my Dr that it is more

painful than it was before. Is there anything I can do to lessen it?

Thanks!

Sara

[Guest guest]

On Jun 2, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Kathy & Chuck Egan wrote:

> Where is everyone from.... I am from New York - Nassau County Long island

specifically. Just wondering the spread of Allergic Asthmatics accross the

country and other countries. Does anyone know of a state where Asthma is

almost non existent.

MD here (Baltimore area and Eastern Shore as well). I've only lived in Northern

NJ and MD, and asthma is alive and well in both places unfortunately!

Janet Boss

Best Friends Dog Obedience

Baltimore/Ellicott City/Frederick MD, US

Trainer/Instructor/Consultant

Member; IACP #2574

Visit our website! www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

Contact me: janet@...

[Guest guest]

>

> Where is everyone from.... I am from New York - Nassau County Long island

specifically.   Just wondering the spread of Allergic Asthmatics accross the

country and other countries.  Does anyone know of  a state where Asthma is

almost non existent.   

>

>

I am now in Northwest Arkansas but have lived in Houston, Oklahoma City, Eastern

NC and Little Rock. Every place I move the people tell me " Ohhh this is the

WORST place in the country for allergies and asthma. " For those who say that

Arizona and New Mexico are great for asthmatics, I spent several weeks at an

encampment in new mexico and STILL had asthma.

Honestly, I don't think there is any place that is good. Maybe you have found

it.

Doug

Group founder

On Xolair 3 months shy of 7 years

[Guest guest]

I'm from Des Moines, iowa.

Tricia

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-----Original Message-----

From: Kathy & Chuck Egan <ckegan33@...>

Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 07:04:28

< >

Subject: [ ] Just wondering....

Where is everyone from.... I am from New York - Nassau County Long island

specifically.   Just wondering the spread of Allergic Asthmatics accross the

country and other countries.  Does anyone know of  a state where Asthma is

almost non existent.   

[Guest guest]

I live in San , TX which is on the list of one of the worst cities for

allergies.  I have mentioned this before, but it bears repeating:  I once said

to my allergist that maybe I should just move to Colorado (Denver) and his

remark was " No matter where you move, if you have allergies, in two years you

will be suffering from allergies. "

 

Sometime after that we were in Denver on vacation and an article in the

newspaper stated that the day before the mold count was the highest it had ever

been in Denver!  And mold is one of my severe allergies! 

 

So I think Doug is right...if you have allergies, it doesn't make any difference

where you live.  One of our members lives in Alaska and he has allergies!

--- On Wed, 6/2/10, mom2alexnabbie@... <mom2alexnabbie@...>

wrote:

From: mom2alexnabbie@... <mom2alexnabbie@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Just wondering....

Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 10:20 AM

I'm from Des Moines, iowa.

Tricia

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-----Original Message-----

From: Kathy & Chuck Egan <ckegan33@...>

Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 07:04:28

< >

Subject: [ ] Just wondering....

Where is everyone from.... I am from New York - Nassau County Long island

specifically.   Just wondering the spread of Allergic Asthmatics accross the

country and other countries.  Does anyone know of  a state where Asthma is

almost non existent.   

     

[Guest guest]

Adah,

You are correct, it does not matter where you live for mold. Mold is everywhere,

most of the time. The biggest indicator in that environmental mold does not

significantly affect allergies/asthma, is that when mold counts are the highest,

in the summer, hospital ED visits, admission rates and asthma exacerbation rates

are the lowest. Denver is great, I used to live there and work at the #1 asthma

center, National Jewish, as a clinical pharmacist/pharmacologist.

Glenn

________________________________

From: Adah Voigt <asthmatic50@...>

Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 12:02:31 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Just wondering....

I live in San , TX which is on the list of one of the worst cities for

allergies. I have mentioned this before, but it bears repeating: I once said

to my allergist that maybe I should just move to Colorado (Denver) and his

remark was " No matter where you move, if you have allergies, in two years you

will be suffering from allergies. "

Sometime after that we were in Denver on vacation and an article in the

newspaper stated that the day before the mold count was the highest it had ever

been in Denver! And mold is one of my severe allergies!

So I think Doug is right...if you have allergies, it doesn't make any difference

where you live. One of our members lives in Alaska and he has allergies!

--- On Wed, 6/2/10, mom2alexnabbie@... <mom2alexnabbie@...>

wrote:

From: mom2alexnabbie@... <mom2alexnabbie@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Just wondering....

Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 10:20 AM

I'm from Des Moines, iowa.

Tricia

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----

From: Kathy & Chuck Egan <ckegan33@...>

Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 07:04:28

< >

Subject: [ ] Just wondering....

Where is everyone from.... I am from New York - Nassau County Long island

specifically. Just wondering the spread of Allergic Asthmatics accross the

country and other countries. Does anyone know of a state where Asthma is

almost non existent.

[Guest guest]

The moon? Mars?

Can we move there?

________________________________

From: Kathy & Chuck Egan <ckegan33@...>

Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 10:04:28 AM

Subject: [ ] Just wondering....

Where is everyone from.... I am from New York - Nassau County Long island

specifically. Just wondering the spread of Allergic Asthmatics accross the

country and other countries. Does anyone know of a state where Asthma is

almost non existent.

[Guest guest]

I would expect mold counts to be highest during the more rainy months.

Meri

From: GW <fpa9@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Just wondering....

Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 9:47 AM

 

Adah,

You are correct, it does not matter where you live for mold. Mold is everywhere,

most of the time. The biggest indicator in that environmental mold does not

significantly affect allergies/asthma, is that when mold counts are the highest,

in the summer, hospital ED visits, admission rates and asthma exacerbation rates

are the lowest. Denver is great, I used to live there and work at the #1 asthma

center, National Jewish, as a clinical pharmacist/pharmacologist.

Glenn

________________________________

From: Adah Voigt <asthmatic50@...>

Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 12:02:31 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Just wondering....

I live in San , TX which is on the list of one of the worst cities for

allergies. I have mentioned this before, but it bears repeating: I once said

to my allergist that maybe I should just move to Colorado (Denver) and his

remark was " No matter where you move, if you have allergies, in two years you

will be suffering from allergies. "

Sometime after that we were in Denver on vacation and an article in the

newspaper stated that the day before the mold count was the highest it had ever

been in Denver! And mold is one of my severe allergies!

So I think Doug is right...if you have allergies, it doesn't make any difference

where you live. One of our members lives in Alaska and he has allergies!

--- On Wed, 6/2/10, mom2alexnabbie@... <mom2alexnabbie@...>

wrote:

From: mom2alexnabbie@... <mom2alexnabbie@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Just wondering....

Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 10:20 AM

I'm from Des Moines, iowa.

Tricia

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----

From: Kathy & Chuck Egan <ckegan33@...>

Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 07:04:28

< >

Subject: [ ] Just wondering....

Where is everyone from.... I am from New York - Nassau County Long island

specifically. Just wondering the spread of Allergic Asthmatics accross the

country and other countries. Does anyone know of a state where Asthma is

almost non existent.

[Guest guest]

kathy ---- i'm in suffolk county -- funny that we're so close!!

heather

long island, ny

>

> Where is everyone from.... I am from New York - Nassau County Long island

specifically.   Just wondering the spread of Allergic Asthmatics accross the

country and other countries.  Does anyone know of  a state where Asthma is

almost non existent.   

>

>

>

>

>