Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Hi Rosie, Thank you for your help, this has been driving me nuts. I had found a toothpaste which was good at removing the coating on my tongue that came with my illness. But I ran out, and I didn't have time to drive so far to get some more. So I just bought some at the grocery store that used to be ok for me. I have some recipes for natural toothpastes that I have been threatening to try, I guess it is time. The soap sounds much safer, not sure if I could get use to the taste. But it is nice to know if I get blind sided again. I usually don't know I got one that is bad for me for a week or so till it is really hurting and I can't chew. Makes me wonder how much of gum diseases are actually caused by the toothpastes. That is what I kept thinking I had, then changing the brand would cure it. Thanks again, Tina > > > >Hi Tina. I believe I can help you. The toothpastes do not need to contain >mold in order for them to cause us symptoms as you described. There are a >number of chemicals in commercial and even so called " healthy " toothpastes >that will cause symptoms to those who are sensitive to them. Some >toothpastes are now adding chemical antimicrobials which are can cause >adverse symptoms. > >Prior to my illness had a health practice and had a number of clients with >similar adverse symtoms after brushing their teeth. Once they switched to >a >toothpaste without those chemicals they had no further symptoms. > > >Sodium lauryl sulfate (SLS) and Sodium fluoride are two known such >chemicals >and when avoided we often see improvment with our gums and teeth. Take a >look at: >http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands & id=300\ 5032 > >This is a very useful data base to find ingredients in common household >products and also description of the ingredients. > > > >Don't laugh but the most effective and safest dentrifice I have found is >plain old soap. Unscented, made from lye with the just the base oils >needed >for soap. Cannot be glycerine based soaps. I brush my teeth with the >soap, >rinse well about three times and have clean teeth with no film or coating >and no irritation. > > > >Rosie > > >>I heard someone on this board complaining about pain in the mouth. > > Gums get very swollen, extreme pain (hard to chew), loosened teeth > > etc. This is something I was noticing in my own teeth, for several > > years. I did connect it to the tooth paste, because when I would > > change to a different kind it would instantly cure the problem, and > > my gums would go back to normal within one brushing. Lately I have > > been asking some of the fellow sufferers who have complained of pain > > in the gums to change their toothpaste as an experiment, to see if > > that is infact what is causing it. Sure enough like with me it is a > > miracle instant cure. > > So again if you didn't understand my question. Does anyone here > > know if any of the ingredients used in toothpaste are infact derived > > from mold. > > Thank you, I appreciate any help you can offer, have a nice day, > > Tina _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 what type of toothpaste should one use? my gums blled, swollen teeth loose, etc ....didnt know this had anything to do with toxic mold...I am so confused. Customer Service <featheraid@...> wrote:Hi Rosie, Thank you for your help, this has been driving me nuts. I had found a toothpaste which was good at removing the coating on my tongue that came with my illness. But I ran out, and I didn't have time to drive so far to get some more. So I just bought some at the grocery store that used to be ok for me. I have some recipes for natural toothpastes that I have been threatening to try, I guess it is time. The soap sounds much safer, not sure if I could get use to the taste. But it is nice to know if I get blind sided again. I usually don't know I got one that is bad for me for a week or so till it is really hurting and I can't chew. Makes me wonder how much of gum diseases are actually caused by the toothpastes. That is what I kept thinking I had, then changing the brand would cure it. Thanks again, Tina > > > >Hi Tina. I believe I can help you. The toothpastes do not need to contain >mold in order for them to cause us symptoms as you described. There are a >number of chemicals in commercial and even so called " healthy " toothpastes >that will cause symptoms to those who are sensitive to them. Some >toothpastes are now adding chemical antimicrobials which are can cause >adverse symptoms. > >Prior to my illness had a health practice and had a number of clients with >similar adverse symtoms after brushing their teeth. Once they switched to >a >toothpaste without those chemicals they had no further symptoms. > > >Sodium lauryl sulfate (SLS) and Sodium fluoride are two known such >chemicals >and when avoided we often see improvment with our gums and teeth. Take a >look at: >http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands & id=300\ 5032 > >This is a very useful data base to find ingredients in common household >products and also description of the ingredients. > > > >Don't laugh but the most effective and safest dentrifice I have found is >plain old soap. Unscented, made from lye with the just the base oils >needed >for soap. Cannot be glycerine based soaps. I brush my teeth with the >soap, >rinse well about three times and have clean teeth with no film or coating >and no irritation. > > > >Rosie > > >>I heard someone on this board complaining about pain in the mouth. > > Gums get very swollen, extreme pain (hard to chew), loosened teeth > > etc. This is something I was noticing in my own teeth, for several > > years. I did connect it to the tooth paste, because when I would > > change to a different kind it would instantly cure the problem, and > > my gums would go back to normal within one brushing. Lately I have > > been asking some of the fellow sufferers who have complained of pain > > in the gums to change their toothpaste as an experiment, to see if > > that is infact what is causing it. Sure enough like with me it is a > > miracle instant cure. > > So again if you didn't understand my question. Does anyone here > > know if any of the ingredients used in toothpaste are infact derived > > from mold. > > Thank you, I appreciate any help you can offer, have a nice day, > > Tina _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ FAIR USE NOTICE: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 You are welcome Tina. Do you still have all or some of the toothpastes you've used? If so, you can look the ingredients and compare which caused you side effects and which did not. lol a pure, plain soap doesn't taste bad; it's only the commercial soaps with the added chemicals and fragrances or the " healthy " soaps with fragrant oils or essential oils and other ingredients to make them sound more beneficial and cost more will have a " nasty soapy " taste. Be sure there is no glycerine in the soaps. Not that good for your teeth. You can do it and find something that agrees with you and is also a good dentrifice. Rosie > Hi Rosie, > Thank you for your help, this has been driving me nuts. I had found a > toothpaste which was good at removing the coating on my tongue that came > with my illness. But I ran out, and I didn't have time to drive so far to > get some more. So I just bought some at the grocery store that used to be > ok for me. > I have some recipes for natural toothpastes that I have been threatening > to > try, I guess it is time. The soap sounds much safer, not sure if I could > get use to the taste. But it is nice to know if I get blind sided again. > I usually don't know I got one that is bad for me for a week or so till it > is really hurting and I can't chew. > Makes me wonder how much of gum diseases are actually caused by the > toothpastes. That is what I kept thinking I had, then changing the brand > would cure it. > Thanks again, Tina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Faith, Tina determined that some of the toothpastes she used caused adverse symptoms in her mouth and I listed two of the most possible chemicals in those toothpastes: Sodium lauryl sulfate (SLS) and Sodium fluoride. Swollen, bleeding gums and loose teeth can be a result of many things not mold related. Have you had the opportunity to have a dental check up recently to determine if you perhaps have gingivitis or periodontal disease? I have Lupus and during those of flares will have bleeding gums. Smoking can also aggravate our teeth, connective tissue disease affects our gums, poor nutrition, malabsorption, improper dental hygiene. There are many causes. I've also noticed those with multiple chemical sensitivities will have oral cavity problems. Do you have any sensitivities/reactions to other chemicals or fragrances other than mold or are you unable to distinguish since you are so reactive at this time? I went back to read all your messages; have been busy recovering from Hurricane Rita, and noticed you are in a rental home, the toxic mold was identified in you rental home correct? Yet you have not told your landlord but you are concerned that your landlord will ask you to remove your personal possessions if you leave. That would only be normal procedure. Where is the mold in your home and how extensive is it? May I ask how the molds were identified? Who did the tests for you? Just curious after our Carl Grimes explained about mold testing so well. Have you also had an opportunity to look for a safe apartment or any safe shelter for you and your son? Are you able to make plans to leave the rental home and do you have the finances to rent a safe apartment perhaps for a period or do you have any family members or friends who could help you? What are your son's symptoms? Is he in school, employed or too ill other than to be at home? We all care for you and your health, Rosie Re: [] toothpaste what type of toothpaste should one use? my gums blled, swollen teeth loose, etc ...didnt know this had anything to do with toxic mold...I am so confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Toothpaste is not necessary at all. If you would like to use something that is effective, a little fresh lemon juice sqeezed in water will work just fine. Do you ever clean the floor with toothpaste? Water and a little brush will truly do the work that is needed for your floor and your childs delicate teeth. There is more that just flouride that is in toothpaste that is toxic to our kids including its packaging. Those toxins can easily transport themselves to the blood stream through the small microscopic wounds that our toothbrushes makes in our fragile gums. Remember what we were taught in school years ago? If you can't brush, then drink water or eat an apple. All the best, > > For those doing the reformation thing, can I ask what toothpaste is > safe. The kids and I are using " baby " toothpaste without fluoride. I > have heard people using organic stuff and toms but I though baking soda > was an issue. Any ideas? > > Thanks! > Liz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 We use (and love) Silly Strawberry toothpaste by Tom's of Maine. It is flouride-free. Don't know what you mean by baking soda issue. in NJ > > For those doing the reformation thing, can I ask what toothpaste is > safe. The kids and I are using " baby " toothpaste without fluoride. I > have heard people using organic stuff and toms but I though baking soda > was an issue. Any ideas? > > Thanks! > Liz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 We use Weleda Children's Tooth Gel, but Weleda makes other's too. Here is a link to the toothpaste... http://shop.weleda.com/SearchByCategory.aspx?CategoryCode=OralCare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 My six year old really dislikes the taste of toothpaste. We brush his teeth really well with a good tooth brush and water. He rinses very well and so far no cavities. Interestingly a number of kids in his K class had cavities this year even though they use fluoride tooth paste and fluoride " swish " . We do use a number of the Tom's of Maine products including the toothpaste. I figure that eventually my son will get used to the taste if we keep trying to have him use it occasionally. As for Tom's here's the ingredients on the Silly Strawberry - Glycerin Moistener Vegetable oils Water Consistency Maine aquifer Calcium carbonate Abrasive Purified calcium from the earth Hydrated silica Abrasive Purified silica from the earth Fruit extracts Flavor Strawberry, banana, and other natural flavors Carrageenan Thickener Seaweed (Chondrus crispus) Sodium lauryl sulfate Dispersant Derived from coconut and/or palm kernel oil And the web page on their fluoride free toothpastes - http://www.tomsofmaine.com/toms/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=400 I don't work for them or having any kick backs. There are other natural toothpastes in the health food stores. Tom's in just more main streamed and therefore easier to find. All the best, McCann > > > > For those doing the reformation thing, can I ask what toothpaste is > > safe. The kids and I are using " baby " toothpaste without fluoride. I > > have heard people using organic stuff and toms but I though baking > soda > > was an issue. Any ideas? > > > > Thanks! > > Liz > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 --- If the kids are cavity free, what you are doing seems fine. If not, our last Ped Dentist said the kids fluoride toothpaste is made by those companies to be swallowed-- just incase it happens, while they learn to " spit " . thats if you want to use the fluoride versions. The Toms of Maine and Weleda are good too. My dd doesnt like anything Minty, just strawberry. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Hi, We use Tom's. It's all natural, I buy it at Whole Foods. Sue [ ] Toothpaste Anyone have one that is good for our kids. We are using fluoride-free baby stuff but I find daughter craving it. I think it is the tin. Help! ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Does Toms have aluminum in it? > > Hi, > > We use Tom's. It's all natural, I buy it at Whole Foods. > > > Sue > > > [ ] Toothpaste > > Anyone have one that is good for our kids. We are using fluoride- free > baby stuff but I find daughter craving it. I think it is the tin. Help! > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you > with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 le- > I got to wondering, since the " tooth soap " contains saponified fats > as the main ingredients, whether one could just use the fats > directly on their teeth without them being saponified...any thoughts? Short answer: nope. Slightly longer answer: the process of saponification turns fats into salts of fatty acids, allowing the fatty acid sides to dissolve fats and the ionic, salt end to dissolve in water, allowing many kinds of dirt and filth to be emulsified and washed away. Just brushing with fat would do little more than add fat to the load of crud on your teeth. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 I've had problems with cankersores for years that turned out to be caused, or at least greatly aggravated by toothpaste. The culprits are the foaming agents they add to make the toothpaste foam in your mouth. They're actually fairly harsh detergents like sodium lauryl sulfate and cocamidapropyl betaine. These detergents compromise (e.g. weaken) the mucous membranes in your mouth. In some people they cause cankersores but I would have to think that they're going to cause some kind of problems in most people because strong mucous membranes are needed to fight bacteria in your mouth. So my opinion is that you want to avoid putting any strong soaps in your mouth. To date, I've found two toothpastes that seem to greatly reduce (by 80% or more) the incidents of cankersores. One is only available in England: 1. " Rembrandt Extra Gentle " is available from Walgreens stores or their website. It's very un-foamy with a dry texture and takes getting used to if you've been using chemically-enhanced toothpaste for years. It's also the lowest in detergents of any I've found. 2. Superdrug 2-in-1 toothpaste and whitner (UK). This tooth concoction comes in a small squeeze bottle and does have a foamy, moist texture but uses ingredients that don't seem to promote cankersores. I think it's a variation of a colgate product. It also whitens your teeth, but I'd say it's second to the Rembrandt for minimal irritation. You only need a very small amount to brush your teeth. It's much more liquid in texture than traditional paste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 We use Coral White toothpaste. Not sure if the ingredients are what you are looking for, here is the link http://www.coral-cure.com/coral-white-toothpaste.htm Suzanne > > Someone mentioned not using tooth paste with glycerin in it. > I know many advise not using toothpaste at all, but do any of you have any recommendations for toothpaste that does not have glycerin or any other harmful ingredients and tastes good (maybe minty?) > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 baking soda and water? Peelu tooth powder? S S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Sounds like what I'm looking for. Thanks! > > > > Someone mentioned not using tooth paste with glycerin in it. > > I know many advise not using toothpaste at all, but do any of you have any recommendations for toothpaste that does not have glycerin or any other harmful ingredients and tastes good (maybe minty?) > > Thanks, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Has anyone read about toothpaste for sensitive teeth causing a reduction in asthma symptoms? It's been in the news lately. Apparently the ingredient was used in the past as an asthma drug. The ingredient seems to be in all the sensitive toothpastes -- Crest, Colgate, etc. I have been using such a toothpaste and have much less in the way of asthma symptoms. Not sure if that is helping, but I know it's not hurting. (Also on Xolair and allergy shots, which are doing very well this time.) Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 > > Has anyone read about toothpaste for sensitive teeth causing a reduction in > asthma symptoms? It's been in the news lately. Apparently the ingredient was > used in the past as an asthma drug. The ingredient seems to be in all the > sensitive toothpastes -- Crest, Colgate, etc. > > I have been using such a toothpaste and have much less in the way of asthma > symptoms. Not sure if that is helping, but I know it's not hurting. (Also on > Xolair and allergy shots, which are doing very well this time.) > Carol > > Do you brush normally, swallow or smell it to get the benefit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 The best thing to use is to buy some Iodoral tablets and use a little hot water to make a paste. This is Iodine, and iodine is a much better deterrent to tooth decay, plus if the child or you swallows a little -- everyone probably needs a little more iodine. Use Iodoral or one of the other supplemental iodine tablets -- NOT tincture for god's sake. If we do use a commercial one we use the training toothpaste that contains no fluoride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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