Re: Conumdrum

[Guest guest]

Hi Old Grumpy,

Have you researched gout on the Earth Clinic? Many there have found relief with

ACV:

http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/gout.html

And for a blood thinner, you might want to consider nattokinase as an eventual

replacement for the warfarin if your doc agrees:

http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1426015

You don't say how much protein you consume per day. Do you eat enough veggies to

balance those acidic food with alkaline?

Vegetables - especially raw green leafy vegetables.

Fresh Herbs & Spice - parsley, basil, cilantro, cayenne, ginger;

Fruits - avocado, cucumber, young coconuts;

Wheat grass;

Sprouts: i.e. alfalfa, mung bean, broccoli etc.

For more details go to the acid alkaline food list:

http://www.thebestofrawfood.com/alkaline-food-list.html

Lemon, while acidic before digestion, is very alkaline when digested. I drink

water with lemon with all meals.

None of the above should cause you to abandon your LCHF diet.

Best,

Dee

>

> I find myself in a bit of a pickle. As along standing Diabetic (type 2) I

> adopted an LCHF wol and could soon give up my insulin pump, this was nearly

> 4 years ago, and also having lost about 50 lbs I was feeling fine.

>

> Then in January of this year I developed a blood clot in my right lower leg

> the consequence of which was that I was put on daily injections of Klexane

> (Enoxaparin) and Warfarin, and later stabilized only Warfarin with review

> and tests every week until middle of July at least.

>

> Then a couple of weeks ago I developed gout in my left wrist for which I am

> now taking cortisone tablets. Gout can be brought on by many things but a

> high protein diet is known to aggravate the situation.

>

> So, I don't know what brought on the blood clot and I have had extensive

> blood work done and no alarms have been set off, but the gout could be

> caused by my diet and the Warfarin. It is the second gout attack in the same

> place as I miss diagnosed the first as a sprain, and if that is a proper

> conclusion then it was before the Warfarin and presumably diet related.

>

> My LCHF is very low on carbs and high on protein and I struggle like many to

> keep my fat percentages high.

>

> So, what am I to do I wonder. Compromise my diet and return to insulin

> injection and the debilitation that would then occur or do I maintain my

> diet and suffer with gout (a horrendous pain). There is medication to

> suppress or expunge the uric acid over production which causes gout, but I

> haven't found any research as how that might effect my blood clotting

> tendency or my diabetes.

>

> If anyone has any ideas or suggestions as how best to proceed I would be

> truly grateful.

>

> Tia

>

> /G.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dee

Thanks for this, I will certainly read up on those links and consider your

comments. I do not balance anything with veggies, I have to avoid them as

much as possible to keep my Blood Glucose in control, remember I was on 150

units insulin per day!

When my pension comes in I will be ordering Serrapeptase, perhaps Block

Buster all clear, which I believe also contains Nattokinase.

I have never considered the issue of acidic food contra alkaline so I have

some reading up to do there too. I eat coconut oil but can't get coconuts

fresh, avocado yes occasionally, herbs and spices in sauces only, veggies

now and then in very small portions, broccoli, brussel sprouts, onion, 1/2 a

tomato sometimes.

Good tip with the lemon, I do the same with vinegar.

Thanks

/G.

2011/5/14 Dolores <dgk@...>

> Hi Old Grumpy,

>

> Have you researched gout on the Earth Clinic? Many there have found relief

> with ACV:

> http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/gout.html

>

> And for a blood thinner, you might want to consider nattokinase as an

> eventual replacement for the warfarin if your doc agrees:

> http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1426015

>

> You don't say how much protein you consume per day. Do you eat enough

> veggies to balance those acidic food with alkaline?

>

> Vegetables - especially raw green leafy vegetables.

> Fresh Herbs & Spice - parsley, basil, cilantro, cayenne, ginger;

> Fruits - avocado, cucumber, young coconuts;

> Wheat grass;

> Sprouts: i.e. alfalfa, mung bean, broccoli etc.

> For more details go to the acid alkaline food list:

> http://www.thebestofrawfood.com/alkaline-food-list.html

>

> Lemon, while acidic before digestion, is very alkaline when digested. I

> drink water with lemon with all meals.

>

> None of the above should cause you to abandon your LCHF diet.

>

> Best,

> Dee

>

>

> >

> > I find myself in a bit of a pickle. As along standing Diabetic (type 2) I

> > adopted an LCHF wol and could soon give up my insulin pump, this was

> nearly

> > 4 years ago, and also having lost about 50 lbs I was feeling fine.

> >

> > Then in January of this year I developed a blood clot in my right lower

> leg

> > the consequence of which was that I was put on daily injections of

> Klexane

> > (Enoxaparin) and Warfarin, and later stabilized only Warfarin with review

> > and tests every week until middle of July at least.

> >

> > Then a couple of weeks ago I developed gout in my left wrist for which I

> am

> > now taking cortisone tablets. Gout can be brought on by many things but a

> > high protein diet is known to aggravate the situation.

> >

> > So, I don't know what brought on the blood clot and I have had extensive

> > blood work done and no alarms have been set off, but the gout could be

> > caused by my diet and the Warfarin. It is the second gout attack in the

> same

> > place as I miss diagnosed the first as a sprain, and if that is a proper

> > conclusion then it was before the Warfarin and presumably diet related.

> >

> > My LCHF is very low on carbs and high on protein and I struggle like many

> to

> > keep my fat percentages high.

> >

> > So, what am I to do I wonder. Compromise my diet and return to insulin

> > injection and the debilitation that would then occur or do I maintain my

> > diet and suffer with gout (a horrendous pain). There is medication to

> > suppress or expunge the uric acid over production which causes gout, but

> I

> > haven't found any research as how that might effect my blood clotting

> > tendency or my diabetes.

> >

> > If anyone has any ideas or suggestions as how best to proceed I would be

> > truly grateful.

> >

> > Tia

> >

> > /G.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi , I have the exact answer for you.

As a person ages they produce less plasmin, the only fibrinolytic enzyme the

body makes. Enzymes have very specific functions; a fibrinolytic enzyme reduces

fibrin, the blood clotting protein. This action in the body how it gets the name

metabolic enzyme as opposed to digestive enzyme.

Plasmin ensures spontaneous blood coagulation does not occur, and it's not only

blood coagulation (coagulopathy) that plasmin prevents; organ fibrosis, the

leading killer of the elderly due usually to kidney failure also results from

low plasmin. Thrombosis, endometriosis and adhesions are also reduced by

adequate plasmin.

So, your plasmin is low and that's why you're on warfarin. Warfarin and coumadin

produce a huge bleeding risk and " poor prognosis " in the event of a hemorragic

stroke, so the doctor gets you off some of your vitamins such as vitamin E,

vitamin K, garlic and so on because they facilitate better blood circulation.

A natural no-risk alternative has been on the market for years; categorically

the fibrinolytic enzymes nattokinase, serrapeptase, and Seaprose-S and some

newer developments support the erosion of excess fibrin. Together, they are

pronounced heart disease, thrombosis, and inflammation reducers and circulation

and microcirculation enhancers that carry no bleeding risk.

Of the enzyme blends, BlockBuster AllClear is the most potent, the most

" correct " blend, and also the least expensive. It is miles ahead of Neprinol and

Wobenzym, which don't even have the right formula to properly address

coagulopathy. Besides reducing coagulopathy, BlockBuster AllClear is used to

dissolve/erode existing clots such as deep-vein thrombosis, peripheral arterial

disease, plaque buildup, inflammation, and organ fibrosis, and improve

microcirculation, all the circulation things that might kill you as you age.

Some people respond to just one capsule daily, while others take 2 twice daily.

But it generally works in just days, so you wan't need the warfarin for long.

Unlike other products, BB AllClear is backed by a money-back guarantee, even on

the buy 3 get 4 sale, so save your empty bottles.

Here's my link ; as you'll see, The parent company GoodHealth Naturally

invites comparison by posting the ingredients list:

http://tinyurl.com/BB-Allclear

all good,

Duncan

>

> I find myself in a bit of a pickle. As along standing Diabetic (type 2) I

> adopted an LCHF wol and could soon give up my insulin pump, this was nearly

> 4 years ago, and also having lost about 50 lbs I was feeling fine.

>

> Then in January of this year I developed a blood clot in my right lower leg

> the consequence of which was that I was put on daily injections of Klexane

> (Enoxaparin) and Warfarin, and later stabilized only Warfarin with review

> and tests every week until middle of July at least.

>

[Guest guest]

, since you mentioned you are diabetic, I've seen a diabetic's purple

toes and bad leg circulation go back to pink again in 2 days. I think she used 4

caps twice a day for four days, then backed it off to 2 caps a day. I don't

expect that your circulation is that bad but it attests to the power of this

supplement. A lot of people with the disorder lose their legs by amputation, and

it's completely unnecessary and unconscionable to refer them to surgery when we

have BlockBuster AllClear available.

Many testimonials exist on this subject of circulation and thrombosis in a

Gooogle search ...these are the two main reasons people take metabolic

enzymes. Then there's the coagulopathy, organ fibrosis...

all good,

Duncan

[Guest guest]

, the lemon water/juice mentioned doen't posess the alkaline property;

the property is in the lemon solids.

I would look to replace the doctor if he doesn't agree with the enzyme approach

and take you off warfarin ASAP. You'll need a blood draw almost right away to

prove the enzyme case to him and it's dangerous to stay on warfarin for even a

short time, other therapy or not. That pesky bleeding risk is unwelcome in the

organs and especially in the brain.

all good,

Duncan

[Guest guest]

Duncan, Do you think Blockbuster All Clear would help with diabetic

neuropathy?

Dianne

On 5/14/11 2:35 PM, Duncan Crow wrote:

> , since you mentioned you are diabetic, I've seen a diabetic's purple

toes and bad leg circulation go back to pink again in 2 days. I think she used 4

caps twice a day for four days, then backed it off to 2 caps a day. I don't

expect that your circulation is that bad but it attests to the power of this

supplement. A lot of people with the disorder lose their legs by amputation, and

it's completely unnecessary and unconscionable to refer them to surgery when we

have BlockBuster AllClear available.

>

> Many testimonials exist on this subject of circulation and thrombosis in a

Gooogle search ...these are the two main reasons people take metabolic

enzymes. Then there's the coagulopathy, organ fibrosis...

>

> all good,

>

> Duncan

>

>

[Guest guest]

I refused warfarin and went to nattokinase

http://www.springboard4health.com/notebook/health_nattokinase.html

Chuck

I'm a hypnotist, so this is only a suggestion

On 5/14/2011 12:42:30 PM, Old Grumpy (grumpygubbe@...) wrote:

> I find myself in a bit of a pickle. As along standing Diabetic (type 2) I

> adopted an LCHF wol and could soon give up my insulin pump, this was

> nearly

> 4 years ago, and also having lost about 50 lbs I was feeling fine.

>

> Then in January of this year I developed a blood clot in my right lower

> leg

> the consequence of which was that I was put on daily injections of

> Klexane

> (Enoxaparin) and Warfarin, and later stabilized only Warfarin with review

> and tests every week until middle of July at least.

>

> Then a couple of weeks ago I developed gout in my left wrist for which I

> am

> now taking cortisone tablets. Gout can be brought on by many things but

> a

> high protein diet is known to aggravate the situation.

>

> So, I

> don't know what brought on the blood clot and I have had extensive

> blood work done and no alarms have been set off, but the gout could be

> caused by my diet and the Warfarin. It is the second gout attack in the same

> place as I miss diagnosed the first as a sprain, and if that is a proper

> conclusion then it was before the Warfarin and presumably diet related.

>

> My LCHF is very low on carbs and high on protein and I struggle

[Guest guest]

Dianne, diabetic neuropathy is driven primarily by oxidative stress, which is

ongoing unquenched free radical damage cascades. Lots of data exists on this

subject.

" Evidence is presented to support the idea that

both chronic and acute hyperglycemia cause oxidative stress

in the peripheral nervous system that can promote the development

of diabetic neuropathy. " :

http://edrv.endojournals.org/cgi/reprint/25/4/612.pdf

" By blocking multiple pathway components, multiple causes of oxidative stress

would in turn be blocked, preventing nervous system injury. " :

http://www.jci.org/articles/view/17862

Oxidative stress is reduced with glutathione, the body's master antioxidant and

detoxifier produced within each cell, from precursors found in undenatured whey

and selenium. Other antioxidants will help; they are recycled several times by

glutathione:

http://tinyurl.com/whey-page

That's the short version Further glutathione references to most diseases

including diabetes:

http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/glutathione-references.html

Where BlockBuster AllClear fits in is it reduces inflammation and spontaneous

blood coagulation. Circulation and microcirculation improve, and the cells are

better served by circulation and better able to remove the toxins that cause the

nerve damage. As you might have guessed I don't think it's the only thing a

diabetic should use.

Moving on, improving diabetic neuropathy is a different question compared to

arresting the degeneration.

Most likely one can stop the degeneration with nutrients including less

carbohydrates (the reason one degenerates is partly glycation), more undenatured

whey, more selenium (in most regions), more balanced fats, more inulin in the

diet, trace minerals and all that; looking after one's nutrition generally.

Improvement may be noted, but specific attention to rebuilding the body,

especially the older body, may require an HGH (human growth hormone) increaser

because growth hormone drops with age.

Of the purported HGH increasers, SomaLife gHP triggers an HGH release like one

had at about 22 years of age, something like 700%-800% over resting levels, with

each dose. Others mainly don't do much, increase HGH marginally to about 165%

over a period of six weeks, or contain testosterone enhancers, which we're not

asking for right now.

A lot of science exists around HGH increase; obviously, the results of a higher

amount of HGH release speak for themselves and that's what body builders apply

even if they have to inject foreign animal or GMO enhormone to do it. Some

use up to 6 tablespoons of 6 hour colostrum for the various bovine growth

factors for example, but foreign HGH and growth factors are met with skepticism

about their safety by many people and doctors. I've tried colostrum and it seems

to work but I don't know about long-term effects:

http://bulkcolostrum.com

I prefer SomaLife gHP, and I'm very fit after using it for about 5 years; my

wife's age is guessed at 32 but she's 49, and I have about 40 more stories like

that

http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/SomaLife-gHP

As you'll see in the HGH references that have specific subjects, diabetes can be

considerably improved including lipid levels, regeneration and all that.

Like one of the first few references I just posted says, treatment of the

neuropathy isn't successful on its own but treatment of the diabetes is

Alobar, a group moderator, and Old Grumpy (), know a lot about treating

diabetes; they are using some of these methods.

all good,

Duncan

>

> Duncan, Do you think Blockbuster All Clear would help with diabetic

> neuropathy?

>

> Dianne

>

[Guest guest]

I sincerely wish everybody would refuse warfarin and coumadin; they have no

redemming qualities if a better and safer product is available. Nattokinase

synergizes with serrapeptase and Seaprose-S to reduce clotting etc even better

than one's natural plasmin does, and they increase natural plasmin release as

well. That's probably why BlockBuster AllClear is guaranteed to work or you get

your money back

all good,

Duncan

>

> I refused warfarin and went to nattokinase

> http://www.springboard4health.com/notebook/health_nattokinase.html

>

> Chuck

> I'm a hypnotist, so this is only a suggestion

>

[Guest guest]

Duncan, can you substantiate that comment with a reference. Oh, and btw, Old

Grumpy isn't .

Dee

>

> , the lemon water/juice mentioned doen't posess the alkaline property;

the property is in the lemon solids.

>

[Guest guest]

I use lemon water all the time. Very alkalizing, among many other benefits.

Jethro Kloss' book, " Back to Eden " goes into it extensively.

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much Duncan!

Dianne

On 5/14/11 6:30 PM, Duncan Crow wrote:

> Dianne, diabetic neuropathy is driven primarily by oxidative stress, which is

ongoing unquenched free radical damage cascades. Lots of data exists on this

subject.

>

> " Evidence is presented to support the idea that

> both chronic and acute hyperglycemia cause oxidative stress

> in the peripheral nervous system that can promote the development

> of diabetic neuropathy. " :

> http://edrv.endojournals.org/cgi/reprint/25/4/612.pdf

>

> " By blocking multiple pathway components, multiple causes of oxidative stress

would in turn be blocked, preventing nervous system injury. " :

> http://www.jci.org/articles/view/17862

>

> Oxidative stress is reduced with glutathione, the body's master antioxidant

and detoxifier produced within each cell, from precursors found in undenatured

whey and selenium. Other antioxidants will help; they are recycled several times

by glutathione:

> http://tinyurl.com/whey-page

>

> That's the short version Further glutathione references to most diseases

including diabetes:

> http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/glutathione-references.html

>

> Where BlockBuster AllClear fits in is it reduces inflammation and spontaneous

blood coagulation. Circulation and microcirculation improve, and the cells are

better served by circulation and better able to remove the toxins that cause the

nerve damage. As you might have guessed I don't think it's the only thing a

diabetic should use.

>

> Moving on, improving diabetic neuropathy is a different question compared to

arresting the degeneration.

>

> Most likely one can stop the degeneration with nutrients including less

carbohydrates (the reason one degenerates is partly glycation), more undenatured

whey, more selenium (in most regions), more balanced fats, more inulin in the

diet, trace minerals and all that; looking after one's nutrition generally.

Improvement may be noted, but specific attention to rebuilding the body,

especially the older body, may require an HGH (human growth hormone) increaser

because growth hormone drops with age.

>

> Of the purported HGH increasers, SomaLife gHP triggers an HGH release like one

had at about 22 years of age, something like 700%-800% over resting levels, with

each dose. Others mainly don't do much, increase HGH marginally to about 165%

over a period of six weeks, or contain testosterone enhancers, which we're not

asking for right now.

>

> A lot of science exists around HGH increase; obviously, the results of a

higher amount of HGH release speak for themselves and that's what body builders

apply even if they have to inject foreign animal or GMO enhormone to do it.

Some use up to 6 tablespoons of 6 hour colostrum for the various bovine growth

factors for example, but foreign HGH and growth factors are met with skepticism

about their safety by many people and doctors. I've tried colostrum and it seems

to work but I don't know about long-term effects:

> http://bulkcolostrum.com

>

> I prefer SomaLife gHP, and I'm very fit after using it for about 5 years; my

wife's age is guessed at 32 but she's 49, and I have about 40 more stories like

that

> http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/SomaLife-gHP

>

> As you'll see in the HGH references that have specific subjects, diabetes can

be considerably improved including lipid levels, regeneration and all that.

>

> Like one of the first few references I just posted says, treatment of the

neuropathy isn't successful on its own but treatment of the diabetes is

>

> Alobar, a group moderator, and Old Grumpy (), know a lot about treating

diabetes; they are using some of these methods.

>

> all good,

>

> Duncan

>

>

>

>> Duncan, Do you think Blockbuster All Clear would help with diabetic

>> neuropathy?

>>

>> Dianne

>>

>

[Guest guest]

Duncan, I agree that Nattokinase is safer than warfarin and coumadin - which is

why I recommended it. And Old Grumpy replied that he would be ordering

BlockBuster AllClear before you mentioned it - twice. So what is this, a

commercial?

Dee

>

> I sincerely wish everybody would refuse warfarin and coumadin; they have no

redemming qualities if a better and safer product is available. Nattokinase

synergizes with serrapeptase and Seaprose-S to reduce clotting etc even better

than one's natural plasmin does, and they increase natural plasmin release as

well. That's probably why BlockBuster AllClear is guaranteed to work or you get

your money back

>

> all good,

>

> Duncan

[Guest guest]

If you looked up " alkaline ash " Dee, you'd find it is the product of the burning

of a carbon-based substance, in this case in point a lemon. Lemon ash is known

alkalizer, but lemon juice contains little or no carbon-based stuff to burn,

thus no ash; it's mainly citric acid and water. There's a little potassium in it

but not enough to counteract the acidity.

all good,

Duncan

> >

> > , the lemon water/juice mentioned doen't posess the alkaline

property; the property is in the lemon solids.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sooooo; then, we should eat lemons instead of putting lemon juice in our

water?? Arrgh, I'm confused again.

Judy

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

>

>

> If you looked up " alkaline ash " Dee, you'd find it is the product of the

> burning of a carbon-based substance, in this case in point a lemon. Lemon

> ash is known alkalizer, but lemon juice contains little or no carbon-based

> stuff to burn, thus no ash; it's mainly citric acid and water. There's a

> little potassium in it but not enough to counteract the acidity.

>

> all good,

>

> Duncan

>

>

> > >

> > > , the lemon water/juice mentioned doen't posess the alkaline

> property; the property is in the lemon solids.

> > >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think you're not the commercial police Dee but I'll humour you ...when I go

down the posts and respond to some of them I don't read the whole list of them

before I answer one. You have a delete key.

You mentioned nattokinase, yup. Nattokinase was improved by Goodhealth Naturally

which put nattokinase NSK-SD (the good stuff) and serrapeptase and

Seaprose-S for synergy in BlockBuster AllClear. Their guarantee even on $200

worth that you get for $150 is especially interesting to some people because

they don't risk anything but postage. Thought that might impress Karl because

he's asked me for my opinion during our email exchanges.

You OK with that?

all good,

Duncan

> >

> > I sincerely wish everybody would refuse warfarin and coumadin; they have no

redemming qualities if a better and safer product is available. Nattokinase

synergizes with serrapeptase and Seaprose-S to reduce clotting etc even better

than one's natural plasmin does, and they increase natural plasmin release as

well. That's probably why BlockBuster AllClear is guaranteed to work or you get

your money back

> >

> > all good,

> >

> > Duncan

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah Judy note that none of the juices are in the alkaline ash food category;

it's the lemon solids that yield an alkaline ash.

I'd think you could strip off the rind for palatability but a lot of people eat

the whole thing. Cooking it milds the acidity down a lot.

all good,

Duncan

>

> Sooooo; then, we should eat lemons instead of putting lemon juice in our

> water?? Arrgh, I'm confused again.

>

> Judy

>

[Guest guest]

Ash comes from minerals, not from carbon. Carbon when burned completely does not

leave anything - all are converted to carbon dioxide and gone. Citric acid is

37% percent carbon. Substances that have mineral content will leave ash when

burned.

Tony

________________________________

From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Sun, May 15, 2011 1:15:57 PM

Subject: Re: Conumdrum

If you looked up " alkaline ash " Dee, you'd find it is the product of the burning

of a carbon-based substance, in this case in point a lemon. Lemon ash is known

alkalizer, but lemon juice contains little or no carbon-based stuff to burn,

thus no ash; it's mainly citric acid and water. There's a little potassium in it

but not enough to counteract the acidity.

all good,

Duncan

> >

> > , the lemon water/juice mentioned doen't posess the alkaline

property;

>the property is in the lemon solids.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Duncan, Dee and others who have offered advice and comments. This

thread has caused a lot of comment and as I am on the other side of the

world I woke up this morning to a lot of useful information and opinions to

consider, but I am now way behind.....

Yesterday afternoon(Saturday) I felt my wrist becoming tender. The last

time this happened it got steadily worse to become a full blown attack the

day after only relieved by drugs five days after that. As this started

Saturday and I can get no help until Monday at best and having read up on

some of the info kindly offered here I drank 2 x ½ glass of water with 2

tblsps apple cider vinegar and ½ tsp baking soda. This morning Sunday my

wrist is no worse than it was yesterday - so I will continue with the ACV +

BS regime and see what happens.

This leads me to ask that if it is not the juice of a lemon but the flesh

that could be effective in combating uric acid then what could it be in AVC

that is purported to be similarly effective. Likewise it was mentioned that

cooking the lemon can reduce the 'lip puckering, eye streaming consequence

that eating lemons has on some people - me :-( But I have always understood

that any kind of heat preparation will always detract from the nutrients

available in anything we may digest - consequently I don't understand how

cooking lemon can be better than raw lemon juice especially if ACV is an

acceptable or better substitute.

Clearing up a couple of things. No, I am not though Karl (my real

name) was often translated into as recently as the 70's. I have

talked to Duncan before about Serrapeptase and Nattocinase when I first had

a blood clot and was ordinated Warfarin. Now having researched the subject

of enzymes I will definitely be ordering Block Buster All Clear and then we

will see. One of the reasons I have delayed is that I have been dithering

with the concept of taking the enzyme therapy at the same time as Warfarin

but I think I have read enough to be able to go ahead in spite of warnings I

have found concerning combinations with Nattocinase. BBAC I understand

though though contains a lower percentage of Nacotinase prioritating

Serrapeptase as the primary active ingredient - correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, these products are expensive, in fact the freight to me is as much

again as the actual cost of the products and I will be paying whilst Big

Pharma drugs cost me nothing. I am not in a position to order BBAC in bulk

to proportionately reduce the overall transport costs either as my pension

prohibits anything other than marginal extra outlay.

Enzyme therapy products are just not available to me in Sweden and my doctor

and other doctors and health care workers I have spoken to have never even

heard of any treatments based on them. I have passed on all manner of

information but I am banging my head against the proverbial brick wall.

/G.

2011/5/14 Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

> Hi , I have the exact answer for you.

>

> As a person ages they produce less plasmin, the only fibrinolytic enzyme

> the body makes. Enzymes have very specific functions; a fibrinolytic enzyme

> reduces fibrin, the blood clotting protein. This action in the body how it

> gets the name metabolic enzyme as opposed to digestive enzyme.

>

> Plasmin ensures spontaneous blood coagulation does not occur, and it's not

> only blood coagulation (coagulopathy) that plasmin prevents; organ fibrosis,

> the leading killer of the elderly due usually to kidney failure also results

> from low plasmin. Thrombosis, endometriosis and adhesions are also reduced

> by adequate plasmin.

>

> So, your plasmin is low and that's why you're on warfarin. Warfarin and

> coumadin produce a huge bleeding risk and " poor prognosis " in the event of a

> hemorragic stroke, so the doctor gets you off some of your vitamins such as

> vitamin E, vitamin K, garlic and so on because they facilitate better blood

> circulation.

>

> A natural no-risk alternative has been on the market for years;

> categorically the fibrinolytic enzymes nattokinase, serrapeptase, and

> Seaprose-S and some newer developments support the erosion of excess

> fibrin. Together, they are pronounced heart disease, thrombosis, and

> inflammation reducers and circulation and microcirculation enhancers that

> carry no bleeding risk.

>

> Of the enzyme blends, BlockBuster AllClear is the most potent, the most

> " correct " blend, and also the least expensive. It is miles ahead of Neprinol

> and Wobenzym, which don't even have the right formula to properly address

> coagulopathy. Besides reducing coagulopathy, BlockBuster AllClear is used to

> dissolve/erode existing clots such as deep-vein thrombosis, peripheral

> arterial disease, plaque buildup, inflammation, and organ fibrosis, and

> improve microcirculation, all the circulation things that might kill you as

> you age.

>

> Some people respond to just one capsule daily, while others take 2 twice

> daily. But it generally works in just days, so you wan't need the warfarin

> for long. Unlike other products, BB AllClear is backed by a money-back

> guarantee, even on the buy 3 get 4 sale, so save your empty bottles.

>

> Here's my link ; as you'll see, The parent company GoodHealth

> Naturally invites comparison by posting the ingredients list:

> http://tinyurl.com/BB-Allclear

>

> all good,

>

> Duncan

>

>

> >

> > I find myself in a bit of a pickle. As along standing Diabetic (type 2) I

> > adopted an LCHF wol and could soon give up my insulin pump, this was

> nearly

> > 4 years ago, and also having lost about 50 lbs I was feeling fine.

> >

> > Then in January of this year I developed a blood clot in my right lower

> leg

> > the consequence of which was that I was put on daily injections of

> Klexane

> > (Enoxaparin) and Warfarin, and later stabilized only Warfarin with review

> > and tests every week until middle of July at least.

> >

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Judy,

You are not the one who is confused. Here is only one of many sites that should

put your mind at ease:

http://nh1.ccone.com/

quote:Foods such as orange juice and lemon juice are acidic in their natural

state but turn alkaline after they have been metabolized in the body. As such,

for dietetic purposes they are usually considered to be alkaline forming foods

despite being acidic prior to consumption. Most fruits are alkaline except a few

that include cranberries, plums and prunes. These fruits are classified as

acidic because they contain acids the body can't metabolize.

Best,

Dee

>

> >

> >

> > If you looked up " alkaline ash " Dee, you'd find it is the product of the

> > burning of a carbon-based substance, in this case in point a lemon. Lemon

> > ash is known alkalizer, but lemon juice contains little or no carbon-based

> > stuff to burn, thus no ash; it's mainly citric acid and water. There's a

> > little potassium in it but not enough to counteract the acidity.

> >

> > all good,

> >

> > Duncan

[Guest guest]

Hi Karl,

A couple of comments only as I'm not a doctor. First, regarding the lemons -

eating them whole is probably not a great idea because the acid is very hard on

tooth enamel. If you juice them in even one of those simple hand juicers the

juice will include almost all of the pulp as well.

While it is said that cooked foods TEND to be more alkaline than raw foods I

have no idea as to what degree of difference that would be. Heating would

definitely destroy some of the vit C, but might enhance the PH so you could try

adding it to tea or such.

As for taking BBAC with Warfarin I would ask you to please reconsider that idea!

When my partner was on Coumadin (well before we knew anything about Nattokinase)

he had to be monitored frequently lest he die from internal bleeding from almost

any kind of injury. As it turned out he died about a week after a bad fall down

some stairs. Too much blood thinning could be disastrous. Since you don't have

access to homeopathic Drs, I hope Dr. Lew or Dr. Fife can help you out with this

one.

And good luck with the vinegar for your gout. I hope it helps. I would also

start adding more green veggies, cooked very lightly, and cut down on the red

meat if you are eating too much. There are greens that really don't add many

carbs. Here is a site that lists the carbs in veggies from zero to ten plus:

http://kitchen-parade-veggieventure.blogspot.com/2008/01/how-many-carbs-are-in-v\

egetables.html

Best,

Dee

>

> Thank you Duncan, Dee and others who have offered advice and comments. This

> thread has caused a lot of comment and as I am on the other side of the

> world I woke up this morning to a lot of useful information and opinions to

> consider, but I am now way behind.....

>

> Yesterday afternoon(Saturday) I felt my wrist becoming tender. The last

> time this happened it got steadily worse to become a full blown attack the

> day after only relieved by drugs five days after that. As this started

> Saturday and I can get no help until Monday at best and having read up on

> some of the info kindly offered here I drank 2 x ½ glass of water with 2

> tblsps apple cider vinegar and ½ tsp baking soda. This morning Sunday my

> wrist is no worse than it was yesterday - so I will continue with the ACV +

> BS regime and see what happens.

>

> This leads me to ask that if it is not the juice of a lemon but the flesh

> that could be effective in combating uric acid then what could it be in AVC

> that is purported to be similarly effective. Likewise it was mentioned that

> cooking the lemon can reduce the 'lip puckering, eye streaming consequence

> that eating lemons has on some people - me :-( But I have always understood

> that any kind of heat preparation will always detract from the nutrients

> available in anything we may digest - consequently I don't understand how

> cooking lemon can be better than raw lemon juice especially if ACV is an

> acceptable or better substitute.

>

> Clearing up a couple of things. No, I am not though Karl (my real

> name) was often translated into as recently as the 70's. I have

> talked to Duncan before about Serrapeptase and Nattocinase when I first had

> a blood clot and was ordinated Warfarin. Now having researched the subject

> of enzymes I will definitely be ordering Block Buster All Clear and then we

> will see. One of the reasons I have delayed is that I have been dithering

> with the concept of taking the enzyme therapy at the same time as Warfarin

> but I think I have read enough to be able to go ahead in spite of warnings I

> have found concerning combinations with Nattocinase. BBAC I understand

> though though contains a lower percentage of Nacotinase prioritating

> Serrapeptase as the primary active ingredient - correct me if I'm wrong.

> Also, these products are expensive, in fact the freight to me is as much

> again as the actual cost of the products and I will be paying whilst Big

> Pharma drugs cost me nothing. I am not in a position to order BBAC in bulk

> to proportionately reduce the overall transport costs either as my pension

> prohibits anything other than marginal extra outlay.

>

> Enzyme therapy products are just not available to me in Sweden and my doctor

> and other doctors and health care workers I have spoken to have never even

> heard of any treatments based on them. I have passed on all manner of

> information but I am banging my head against the proverbial brick wall.

>

> /G.

>

>

[Guest guest]

The carbon is supposed to burn away, leaving only the mineral ash component. In

lemon juice the citric acid is carbon, hydrogen and oxygen, thus burns away

leaving very little mineral ash. Another source of carbon in the juice are

sugars. Carbohydrates are often referred to as net-acidic, acidifiers to the

body, because they contain so much carbon. In the blood, waste carbon is in the

form of carbonic acid, which is exhaled as carbon dioxide, costing you two

molecules of alkaline oxygen per molecule of carbon exhaled.

So, if you want to alkalize you'll choose a high mineral food. Juice is

low-mineral but high-carbon, not a good choice for alkalizing.

all good,

Duncan

>

> Ash comes from minerals, not from carbon. Carbon when burned completely does

not

> leave anything - all are converted to carbon dioxide and gone. Citric acid is

> 37% percent carbon. Substances that have mineral content will leave ash when

> burned.

>

> Tony

>

>

[Guest guest]

Increasing insulin sensitivity can relieve gout, and undenatured whey, which

should be a main supplement IMO for diabetics, increases insulin sensitivity.

Selenium, chromium, vanadium, manganese, and gymnema sylvestris also encourage

insulin sensitivity and the herb can also regrow damaged islet cells in the

pancreas.

Baking soda is high sodium and high acid-producing; the carbon has to be

immediately exhaled as it absorbs, and that sodium also disposed of.

Mobilizing the uric acid crystals to join the uric acid with calcium to form

urine should be explored. Vitamin D and calcium, and reducing purines, is

important. Purines are produced upon meat digestion but mot whey assimilation.

Piles of information online.

ACV is food (acetic acid) for the bowel lining cells that lemon juice (citric

acid) is not.

Nattokinase and serrapeptase together are better than either one alone, and a

little Seaprose-S give them a synergy, amount depending on the blend formula.

The golden formula escapes me just now but BB AllClear has been optimized, yes.

I'm glad you're aware of the need to avoid warfarin, Karl buddy. Someone on the

electroherbalism list has just let us know his brother is responding well to

just one pill a day of the BlockBuster AllClear. Hope low-dosing is all you need

too

all good,

Duncan

>

[Guest guest]

The post is inaccurate Dee; it's the mineral content of the alkaline-producing

food that make them alkaline. The solids, which have a high mineral ratio, are

potent alkalizers, and the juice with its low mineral ratio is not.

One more time by illustration -- If you dried up then burned a pound of juice

there would be perhaps a hundred times less alkaline ash than if you burned a

pound of the whole lemon. You'd have to drink an appropriate amount of lemon

juice (50 cups or more?) to equal the minerals in one squeezed lemon.

It's not rocket science; nuf said.

all good,

Duncan

> quote:Foods such as orange juice and lemon juice are acidic in their natural

state but turn alkaline after they have been metabolized in the body.

[Guest guest]

Good point on the cooking Dee -- the lemon contains the same amount of mineral,

so would yield the same amount of alkaline, raw or cooked. The pH improves as

the citric acid in it is neutralized by the alkaline minerals. Maybe it would be

better to toss the juice and use the rest of the lemon. Some of the vitamins may

be destroyed by cooking but we have tha tcovered in other areas.

all golod,

Duncan

>

> Hi Karl,

>>

> While it is said that cooked foods TEND to be more alkaline than raw foods I

have no idea as to what degree of difference that would be. Heating would

definitely destroy some of the vit C, but might enhance the PH so you could try

adding it to tea or such.

>