Guest guest Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 very difficult to see where exactly the winds are blowing, or clouds are moving. also I think important to know how high these particles are ?...how many ? if they are very high, say 1 km..2km..what happens to these particles, what the percentage of them to fall on earth ? winds are changing all the time. To see the map of Japan is totally irrelevant to us living in n.america. as far as I know, it's no different from Chernobyl. The only difference is the location. So from point of view, the distance from the source of radiation to North America is about the same. IMHO, the places that are really close to the source of radiation are much much more affected, then we in north america, and even europe. Otherwise everything we read is total hype. On Apr 15, 2011, at 3:19 AM, Coconut Oil wrote: > OT particulate radiation warning - updated daily > Posted by: " Duncan Crow " duncancrow@... duncancrow > Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:08 am (PDT) > > > > USA and Canada receiving HIGH-mid levels of Cesium, Radiation and Jetstream Forecast April 13, 2011 Wednesday, Apr 13 2011 > > ><http://ascendingstarseed.wordpress.com/category/dutchsinse-2/> > > Here is a list of the radioactive particles in the air. > Taken from the 3-16-11 on ZAMG site. > > XE-133 > CS-134 > BA-136M > CS-136 > CS 137 > I-131 > I-132 > I-133 > TE-132 > > http://babelfish./translate_url?doit=done & tt=url & intl=1 & ∑ > > Higher plumes, reaching 5000 meters (15,000 feet) are forecast to reach Portugal, Spain, and central europe. > > All animations are from professional forecasting services. Links are below. > > http://www.woweather.com/ > > The radiation flow, forecast and shown by these several models∑ tells the tale of the isotopes coming our way∑ .. it will be up to you to decide if you should go outside during the time these clouds are over the USA, Canada, and Mexico∑ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 I wouldn't say it is total hype unless we heard from everyone on the west coast and they all said they were fine with no levels of radiation. The real caveat in this is that it has not been reported as to the severity of it and also they cannot get this radiation to stop leaking and that is the danger. This just came in my box today. http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/page/1466.html ________________________________ From: zalman <zall@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 8:34:18 AM Subject: Re: particulate radiation warning - updated daily very difficult to see where exactly the winds are blowing, or clouds are moving. also I think important to know how high these particles are ?...how many ? if they are very high, say 1 km..2km..what happens to these particles, what the percentage of them to fall on earth ? winds are changing all the time. To see the map of Japan is totally irrelevant to us living in n.america. as far as I know, it's no different from Chernobyl. The only difference is the location. So from point of view, the distance from the source of radiation to North America is about the same. IMHO, the places that are really close to the source of radiation are much much more affected, then we in north america, and even europe. Otherwise everything we read is total hype. On Apr 15, 2011, at 3:19 AM, Coconut Oil wrote: > OT particulate radiation warning - updated daily > Posted by: " Duncan Crow " duncancrow@... duncancrow > Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:08 am (PDT) > > > > USA and Canada receiving HIGH-mid levels of Cesium, Radiation and Jetstream >Forecast April 13, 2011 Wednesday, Apr 13 2011 > > > ><http://ascendingstarseed.wordpress.com/category/dutchsinse-2/> > > Here is a list of the radioactive particles in the air. > Taken from the 3-16-11 on ZAMG site. > > XE-133 > CS-134 > BA-136M > CS-136 > CS 137 > I-131 > I-132 > I-133 > TE-132 > > http://babelfish./translate_url?doit=done & tt=url & intl=1 & ∑ > > Higher plumes, reaching 5000 meters (15,000 feet) are forecast to reach >Portugal, Spain, and central europe. > > All animations are from professional forecasting services. Links are below. > > http://www.woweather.com/ > > The radiation flow, forecast and shown by these several models∑ tells the tale >of the isotopes coming our way∑ .. it will be up to you to decide if you should >go outside during the time these clouds are over the USA, Canada, and Mexico∑ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Polar projections of the wind patterns at three elevations are given: ground level, mid level less than 15,000 feet and high level over 15,000 feet - the jet stream. The projections show North America, not just Japan, and they show the elevation and amount of radiation in the clouds and jet stream. Impressed by the mid-high level of cesium and iodine over California and the Pacific northwest a few days since the last explosion so I went out and bought what might be the last non-radioactive produce I'll see for the rest of my life from that area. Thinking of cumulative effect of ongoing release as well as immediate exposure, I decided to also stock up on kelp powder today to at least mitigate the radioactive iodine in the fallout. Radioactive release is ongoing and will last for months until the damaged fuel rods are fixed, unless the other 2 damaged reactors also melt down. If that happens the air will fairly thick with longer-lasting radioactive cesium fallout, and it may take years before it's stopped and cleaned up. Japan doesn't have the manpower and contract workers are reluctant to enter the area. So, radiation is rising. Best precautionary advice I've heard so far is to take the iodine and stay out of the rain as long as the jet stream is carrying fallout over North America. American authorities are testing crops and milk for radiation as fallout continues. Hope Canada is too. all good, Duncan > > > OT particulate radiation warning - updated daily > > Posted by: " Duncan Crow " duncancrow@... duncancrow > > Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:08 am (PDT) > > > > > > > > USA and Canada receiving HIGH-mid levels of Cesium, Radiation and Jetstream Forecast April 13, 2011 Wednesday, Apr 13 2011 > > > > ><http://ascendingstarseed.wordpress.com/category/dutchsinse-2/> > > > > Here is a list of the radioactive particles in the air. > > Taken from the 3-16-11 on ZAMG site. > > > > XE-133 > > CS-134 > > BA-136M > > CS-136 > > CS 137 > > I-131 > > I-132 > > I-133 > > TE-132 > > > > http://babelfish./translate_url?doit=done & tt=url & intl=1 & âˆ` > > > > Higher plumes, reaching 5000 meters (15,000 feet) are forecast to reach Portugal, Spain, and central europe. > > > > All animations are from professional forecasting services. Links are below. > > > > http://www.woweather.com/ > > > > The radiation flow, forecast and shown by these several modelsâˆ` tells the tale of the isotopes coming our wayâˆ` .. it will be up to you to decide if you should go outside during the time these clouds are over the USA, Canada, and Mexicoâˆ` > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 American authorities are checking... well on the surface, that sounds good...will we hear the truth? or will it be couched / spun so as not to create panic?... That is the crucial issue all over today...credibility... Where can we find out what is really happening? d From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> Subject: Re: particulate radiation warning - updated daily Coconut Oil Date: Friday, April 15, 2011, 12:13 PM  Polar projections of the wind patterns at three elevations are given: ground level, mid level less than 15,000 feet and high level over 15,000 feet - the jet stream. The projections show North America, not just Japan, and they show the elevation and amount of radiation in the clouds and jet stream. Impressed by the mid-high level of cesium and iodine over California and the Pacific northwest a few days since the last explosion so I went out and bought what might be the last non-radioactive produce I'll see for the rest of my life from that area. Thinking of cumulative effect of ongoing release as well as immediate exposure, I decided to also stock up on kelp powder today to at least mitigate the radioactive iodine in the fallout. Radioactive release is ongoing and will last for months until the damaged fuel rods are fixed, unless the other 2 damaged reactors also melt down. If that happens the air will fairly thick with longer-lasting radioactive cesium fallout, and it may take years before it's stopped and cleaned up. Japan doesn't have the manpower and contract workers are reluctant to enter the area. So, radiation is rising. Best precautionary advice I've heard so far is to take the iodine and stay out of the rain as long as the jet stream is carrying fallout over North America. American authorities are testing crops and milk for radiation as fallout continues. Hope Canada is too. all good, Duncan > > > OT particulate radiation warning - updated daily > > Posted by: " Duncan Crow " duncancrow@... duncancrow > > Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:08 am (PDT) > > > > > > > > USA and Canada receiving HIGH-mid levels of Cesium, Radiation and Jetstream Forecast April 13, 2011 Wednesday, Apr 13 2011 > > > > ><http://ascendingstarseed.wordpress.com/category/dutchsinse-2/> > > > > Here is a list of the radioactive particles in the air. > > Taken from the 3-16-11 on ZAMG site. > > > > XE-133 > > CS-134 > > BA-136M > > CS-136 > > CS 137 > > I-131 > > I-132 > > I-133 > > TE-132 > > > > http://babelfish./translate_url?doit=done & tt=url & intl=1 & âˆ` > > > > Higher plumes, reaching 5000 meters (15,000 feet) are forecast to reach Portugal, Spain, and central europe. > > > > All animations are from professional forecasting services. Links are below. > > > > http://www.woweather.com/ > > > > The radiation flow, forecast and shown by these several modelsâˆ` tells the tale of the isotopes coming our wayâˆ` .. it will be up to you to decide if you should go outside during the time these clouds are over the USA, Canada, and Mexicoâˆ` > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 I agree and am not about to panic: We can't predict with any degree of certainty if it will rain next week and we think we can track winds and particulate dispersion/precipitation with any degree of precision? Once an be pro-active but when that becomes out of balance, it becomes paranoia ... Frantz > OT particulate radiation warning - updated daily > Posted by: " Duncan Crow " duncancrow@... duncancrow > Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:08 am (PDT) > > > > USA and Canada receiving HIGH-mid levels of Cesium, Radiation and Jetstream Forecast April 13, 2011 Wednesday, Apr 13 2011 > > ><http://ascendingstarseed.wordpress.com/category/dutchsinse-2/> > > Here is a list of the radioactive particles in the air. > Taken from the 3-16-11 on ZAMG site. > > XE-133 > CS-134 > BA-136M > CS-136 > CS 137 > I-131 > I-132 > I-133 > TE-132 > > http://babelfish./translate_url?doit=done & tt=url & intl=1 & ∑ > > Higher plumes, reaching 5000 meters (15,000 feet) are forecast to reach Portugal, Spain, and central europe. > > All animations are from professional forecasting services. Links are below. > > http://www.woweather.com/ > > The radiation flow, forecast and shown by these several models∑ tells the tale of the isotopes coming our way∑ .. it will be up to you to decide if you should go outside during the time these clouds are over the USA, Canada, and Mexico∑ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 The Dutchsinse site has indeed found two vastly different fallout projections, one indicating almost no radiation for the public to see and t'other for those who really need to know that shows a whole lot of cesium-137 and xenon-133 fallout all over North America. ><http://ascendingstarseed.wordpress.com/category/dutchsinse-2/> Hopefully the reality will be somewhere in between. Japanese experts indicated that the plant will be leaking radiation for several more months. The site will be updated by dedicated people who need to know the truth. Cesium-137 has a half life of over 30 years while xenon-133 1/2 life is about 5 days. We're all in this together; the best advice is to not get the rain on you at all and keep your long-lived pets under cover for the time being, and take your kelp powder for the iodine, and undenatured whey and selenium for other radiation damage. all good, Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 The first part of the video, talking about Xenon-133 is somewhat odd. First of all, using Wikipedia as a source is rather simplistic. Secondly, he then makes a really big leap. Wiki says Xenon comes from nuclear explosions, but it does NOT say it ONLY comes from nuclear explosions. In the second part of the video, which, to me is far more damning of what the public is told, he talks about Cesium-137, but does not emphasize the half-life, which is over 30 years (compared to Xenon-133, which is several days). I am still planning to avoid the rain. Thanks for the update, Duncan. How long before supplements made from sea veggies from the seas around Japan, as well as dried kelp, will be dangerous to eat, and for how many years? Anyone know of a source for Fucoidan which is made from sea veggies from far far away from Japan? Alobar On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote: > The Dutchsinse site has indeed found two vastly different fallout > projections, one indicating almost no radiation for the public to see and > t'other for those who really need to know that shows a whole lot of > cesium-137 and xenon-133 fallout all over North America. > ><http://ascendingstarseed.wordpress.com/category/dutchsinse-2/> > > Hopefully the reality will be somewhere in between. Japanese experts > indicated that the plant will be leaking radiation for several more months. > The site will be updated by dedicated people who need to know the truth. > > Cesium-137 has a half life of over 30 years while xenon-133 1/2 life is > about 5 days. We're all in this together; the best advice is to not get the > rain on you at all and keep your long-lived pets under cover for the time > being, and take your kelp powder for the iodine, and undenatured whey and > selenium for other radiation damage. > > > all good, > > Duncan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 Duncan and all, Japan just admitted over the weekend that reactors 1 and 3 did have a partial meltdown. My question is, does that now mean there is uranium and plutonium fumes in the atmosphere? What is best antidote for these last two? Digitata kelp is also for stronium. Thanks. > > The Dutchsinse site has indeed found two vastly different fallout projections, one indicating almost no radiation for the public to see and t'other for those who really need to know that shows a whole lot of cesium-137 and xenon-133 fallout all over North America. > ><http://ascendingstarseed.wordpress.com/category/dutchsinse-2/> > > Hopefully the reality will be somewhere in between. Japanese experts indicated that the plant will be leaking radiation for several more months. The site will be updated by dedicated people who need to know the truth. > > Cesium-137 has a half life of over 30 years while xenon-133 1/2 life is about 5 days. We're all in this together; the best advice is to not get the rain on you at all and keep your long-lived pets under cover for the time being, and take your kelp powder for the iodine, and undenatured whey and selenium for other radiation damage. > > > all good, > > Duncan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Seems radiation is being underreported: 4/24/2011 -- North Carolina -- Radiation Test - 124CPM @ grandfather mountain http://www.youtube.com/user/dutchsinse#p/u/2/rMn4o2SjzE4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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