Guest guest Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 I had the same problem, thyroid tests always showed normal but I was always cold and depressed. I didn't understand that there are a number of other reasons why cells don't produce enough energy until I was forty and read a few books on it. My tests still read normal, but I take several grains of armor thyroid each day and my health is much, much better. You ought to investigate further, it can change your whole life! It did mine. Mark " If love isn't all that you're after There'll be trouble ahead in the end " . - Firefall From: LadyofYorkies <LadyofYorkies@...> Subject: O/T Thyroid problems Coconut Oil Date: Saturday, April 16, 2011, 9:28 PM Â I was just reading the post about hair loss and what to do about it. I was reading about how low body temp may mean thyroid problems. My dr has given me two of the normal tests and of course my results came back normal. Low normal but still in the normal range. Thing is that when I read about the temp and how it relates to the thyroid, it suddenly occured to me that my temp ranges as low as 95 but most often it is around 97. The drs and nurses never say anything about it being too low and seem to have a hard time understanding when I tell them that when my temp is 99 I have a fever. Can anyone tell me how my thyroid can be in the normal range when my temp usually runs 97? How does that work? Thanks, Sylvia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Hi Sylvia, You might want to ask on NaturalThyroidHormones@... They have heaps of great information and my understanding is that your temperature can be low for other reasons, but generally it's a sign of low thyroid function. Do you have hair loss? All my " normal " thyroid tests came back within range but a Reverse T3 test showed I had very high levels of Reverse T3 and if you have high RT3 it doesn't matter whether your T3 and T4 are normal - the RT3 stops your body being able to use it. Also, a saliva test showed that I had adrenal fatigue. Plus I had TPO antibodies which showed Hashimoto's. It took me a long time of treking through drs and repeatedly being told my thyroid was fine, to eventually learn what I needed and then an even longer time to find drs to do the tests, but it was so worth it because my health is almost back to normal now. (Plus my hair is almost back to normal!) I even had one dr along the way tell me " There's absolutely nothing wrong with you " (despite the fact that my hair had mostly all fallen out, I had almost no hair on my body, my temperatures were low, I had peripheral neuropathy, dry skin, had gained 20 kgs without a change in my very healthy diet, spent lots of time during the day in bed, and lots of other thyroid symptoms. Most drs were nice but told me they had no idea what was wrong with me, but among other things, it wasn't my thyroid because my TSH, T3 and T4 were fine. Stop the Thyroid Madness is the book I found most helpful. On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, LadyofYorkies <LadyofYorkies@...>wrote: > > > I was just reading the post about hair loss and what to do about it. I was > reading about how low body temp may mean thyroid problems. My dr has given > me two of the normal tests and of course my results came back normal. Low > normal but still in the normal range. > > Thing is that when I read about the temp and how it relates to the thyroid, > it suddenly occured to me that my temp ranges as low as 95 but most often it > is around 97. The drs and nurses never say anything about it being too low > and seem to have a hard time understanding when I tell them that when my > temp is 99 I have a fever. > > Can anyone tell me how my thyroid can be in the normal range when my temp > usually runs 97? How does that work? Thanks, Sylvia > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 " Thyroid mistreatment and hypothyroidism misdiagnosis are common every day. Find out the truth about this ongoing scandal " http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ joseph > > I was just reading the post about hair loss and what to do about it. I was reading about how low body temp may mean thyroid problems. My dr has given me two of the normal tests and of course my results came back normal. Low normal but still in the normal range. > > Thing is that when I read about the temp and how it relates to the thyroid, it suddenly occured to me that my temp ranges as low as 95 but most often it is around 97. The drs and nurses never say anything about it being too low and seem to have a hard time understanding when I tell them that when my temp is 99 I have a fever. > > Can anyone tell me how my thyroid can be in the normal range when my temp usually runs 97? How does that work? Thanks, Sylvia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 In a message dated 4/17/2011 12:28:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, juliemc9@... writes: Most drs were nice but told me they had no idea what was wrong with me, but among other things, it wasn't my thyroid because my TSH, T3 and T4 were fine. Stop the Thyroid Madness is the book I found most helpful. , What medication are you on now? Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Hi Edith, I take T3 only - cynomel. The T3 clears Reverse T3 out of your body and then the T3 can actually work in your body. I'm on Hydrocortisone for adrenal fatigue - you can't take thyroid hormones if you're adrenals are weak and not supported - another mistake drs apparently often make - the thyroid hormones will further stress your adrenals and just make everything worse. I was worried about taking cortisone until I learned that it's only high cortisone that's a problem. If you're taking cortisone just to bring low levels up to normal, it's okay. I also take iron - you need good iron levels for thyroid hormones to work. I had very low levels of iodine and take about 125mgs of Lugol's iodine daily. Some people say you shouldn't take it with Hashimoto's, but others say that's it's good for you as long as you take the companion nutrients, such as selenium, vitamin C, celtic sea salt, various Bs and a few other things. I get most of them in one capsule from a compounding chemist and just take the C and sea salt separately. I think that's about it, apart from a few other things like chlorella. I've noticed a very big difference in my health and most of my symptoms have gone. I initially tried Natural Dessicated Thyroid but that didn't make any difference. Then I found out about my Reverse T3 levels and realised that Natural Dessicated Thyroid was never going to work because it was the RT3 blocking the T3 that was the problem. I'd probably be even better off but had to go back to working long hours - I like my job but it's pretty full on. Rest/adequate sleep and a low stress environment are really important to recover from adrenal fatigue. On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:01 PM, <ejohns9525@...> wrote: > > > > In a message dated 4/17/2011 12:28:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > juliemc9@... writes: > > Most drs were nice but told me they had no idea what was wrong > with me, but among other things, it wasn't my thyroid because my TSH, T3 > and > T4 were fine. > > Stop the Thyroid Madness is the book I found most helpful. > > > > , > What medication are you on now? > > Edith > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Good and pure herbal tinctures made from organic / wild-crafted herbs can be helpful and nourish the thyroid...bladderrack and dulse... d From: LadyofYorkies <LadyofYorkies@...> Subject: O/T Thyroid problems Coconut Oil Date: Saturday, April 16, 2011, 9:28 PM  I was just reading the post about hair loss and what to do about it. I was reading about how low body temp may mean thyroid problems. My dr has given me two of the normal tests and of course my results came back normal. Low normal but still in the normal range. Thing is that when I read about the temp and how it relates to the thyroid, it suddenly occured to me that my temp ranges as low as 95 but most often it is around 97. The drs and nurses never say anything about it being too low and seem to have a hard time understanding when I tell them that when my temp is 99 I have a fever. Can anyone tell me how my thyroid can be in the normal range when my temp usually runs 97? How does that work? Thanks, Sylvia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 You might want to check this website: wilsonstemperaturesyndrome.com You can have normal readings and still have a thyroid that is not functioning properly. 's deals with bringing the temperature up and then seeing if the thyroid still needs help. Often raising the temperature is enough. This approach recognizes that blood tests for thyroid function only tell how much T3 or T4 is in the blood, but cannot tell what is happening at the cell level in the conversion process. I don't understand all the technical stuff, but I have done this protocol and it works if you have this syndrome. You can find out on the website if you think you might have it. Georgia > > I was just reading the post about hair loss and what to do about it. I was reading about how low body temp may mean thyroid problems. My dr has given me two of the normal tests and of course my results came back normal. Low normal but still in the normal range. > > Thing is that when I read about the temp and how it relates to the thyroid, it suddenly occured to me that my temp ranges as low as 95 but most often it is around 97. The drs and nurses never say anything about it being too low and seem to have a hard time understanding when I tell them that when my temp is 99 I have a fever. > > Can anyone tell me how my thyroid can be in the normal range when my temp usually runs 97? How does that work? Thanks, Sylvia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 I have had hair loss but it was at a time when I went undiagnosed as a diabetic for a year. Since then I have also noticed that the hair on my arms and legs have gone almost none existant. I thought that was due to aging. Maybe not? I have had a lot of weight gain since my 2nd son was born but my skin is not dry, in fact my face is very oily at times. As for being in bed.... well, I also find I am quite fatigued most of the time. I really treasure the days or hours when I can get up and act like a normal person. Thanks, Sylvia On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Cochrane <juliemc9@...> wrote: > Hi Sylvia, > > You might want to ask on NaturalThyroidHormones@... > > They have heaps of great information and my understanding is that your > temperature can be low for other reasons, but generally it's a sign of low > thyroid function. > > Do you have hair loss? > > All my " normal " thyroid tests came back within range but a Reverse T3 test > showed I had very high levels of Reverse T3 and if you have high RT3 it > doesn't matter whether your T3 and T4 are normal - the RT3 stops your body > being able to use it. > > Also, a saliva test showed that I had adrenal fatigue. Plus I had TPO > antibodies which showed Hashimoto's. > > It took me a long time of treking through drs and repeatedly being told my > thyroid was fine, to eventually learn what I needed and then an even longer > time to find drs to do the tests, but it was so worth it because my health > is almost back to normal now. (Plus my hair is almost back to normal!) > I even had one dr along the way tell me " There's absolutely nothing wrong > with you " (despite the fact that my hair had mostly all fallen out, I had > almost no hair on my body, my temperatures were low, I had peripheral > neuropathy, dry skin, had gained 20 kgs without a change in my very healthy > diet, spent lots of time during the day in bed, and lots of other thyroid > symptoms. Most drs were nice but told me they had no idea what was wrong > with me, but among other things, it wasn't my thyroid because my TSH, T3 > and > T4 were fine. > > Stop the Thyroid Madness is the book I found most helpful. > > > > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, LadyofYorkies <LadyofYorkies@... > >wrote: > > > > > > > I was just reading the post about hair loss and what to do about it. I > was > > reading about how low body temp may mean thyroid problems. My dr has > given > > me two of the normal tests and of course my results came back normal. Low > > normal but still in the normal range. > > > > Thing is that when I read about the temp and how it relates to the > thyroid, > > it suddenly occured to me that my temp ranges as low as 95 but most often > it > > is around 97. The drs and nurses never say anything about it being too > low > > and seem to have a hard time understanding when I tell them that when my > > temp is 99 I have a fever. > > > > Can anyone tell me how my thyroid can be in the normal range when my temp > > usually runs 97? How does that work? Thanks, Sylvia > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Is this an email addy? I tried clicking on it and it didn't work. I tried copy and pasting into my search engine and it didn't work. Is the address correct? Thanks, Sylvia On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Cochrane <juliemc9@...> wrote: > Hi Sylvia, > > You might want to ask on NaturalThyroidHormones@... > > They have heaps of great information and my understanding is that your > temperature can be low for other reasons, but generally it's a sign of low > thyroid function. > > Do you have hair loss? > > All my " normal " thyroid tests came back within range but a Reverse T3 test > showed I had very high levels of Reverse T3 and if you have high RT3 it > doesn't matter whether your T3 and T4 are normal - the RT3 stops your body > being able to use it. > > Also, a saliva test showed that I had adrenal fatigue. Plus I had TPO > antibodies which showed Hashimoto's. > > It took me a long time of treking through drs and repeatedly being told my > thyroid was fine, to eventually learn what I needed and then an even longer > time to find drs to do the tests, but it was so worth it because my health > is almost back to normal now. (Plus my hair is almost back to normal!) > I even had one dr along the way tell me " There's absolutely nothing wrong > with you " (despite the fact that my hair had mostly all fallen out, I had > almost no hair on my body, my temperatures were low, I had peripheral > neuropathy, dry skin, had gained 20 kgs without a change in my very healthy > diet, spent lots of time during the day in bed, and lots of other thyroid > symptoms. Most drs were nice but told me they had no idea what was wrong > with me, but among other things, it wasn't my thyroid because my TSH, T3 > and > T4 were fine. > > Stop the Thyroid Madness is the book I found most helpful. > > > > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, LadyofYorkies <LadyofYorkies@... > >wrote: > > > > > > > I was just reading the post about hair loss and what to do about it. I > was > > reading about how low body temp may mean thyroid problems. My dr has > given > > me two of the normal tests and of course my results came back normal. Low > > normal but still in the normal range. > > > > Thing is that when I read about the temp and how it relates to the > thyroid, > > it suddenly occured to me that my temp ranges as low as 95 but most often > it > > is around 97. The drs and nurses never say anything about it being too > low > > and seem to have a hard time understanding when I tell them that when my > > temp is 99 I have a fever. > > > > Can anyone tell me how my thyroid can be in the normal range when my temp > > usually runs 97? How does that work? Thanks, Sylvia > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Do you have a perscription for the armor thyroid? Or is it something you can get at the healthfood store? If you are treating yourself, how did you figure out how much to take? Is too much dangerous? Thanks, Sylvia On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 9:51 PM, mark abbott <zen91351@...> wrote: > I had the same problem, thyroid tests always showed normal but I was always > cold and depressed. I didn't understand that there are a number of other > reasons why cells don't produce enough energy until I was forty and read a > few books on it. My tests still read normal, but I take several grains of > armor thyroid each day and my health is much, much better. You ought to > investigate further, it can change your whole life! It did mine. > > Mark > > " If love isn't all that you're after > There'll be trouble ahead in the end " . - Firefall > > > > > From: LadyofYorkies <LadyofYorkies@...> > Subject: O/T Thyroid problems > Coconut Oil > Date: Saturday, April 16, 2011, 9:28 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was just reading the post about hair loss and what to do about it. I > was reading about how low body temp may mean thyroid problems. My dr has > given me two of the normal tests and of course my results came back normal. > Low normal but still in the normal range. > > > > Thing is that when I read about the temp and how it relates to the thyroid, > it suddenly occured to me that my temp ranges as low as 95 but most often it > is around 97. The drs and nurses never say anything about it being too low > and seem to have a hard time understanding when I tell them that when my > temp is 99 I have a fever. > > > > Can anyone tell me how my thyroid can be in the normal range when my temp > usually runs 97? How does that work? Thanks, Sylvia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Looking it up right now. Thanks for the site. My appologies to everyone reading this far, I have forgotten to trim my emails. Sylvia On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 11:04 AM, ph <jmiller739@...> wrote: > " Thyroid mistreatment and hypothyroidism misdiagnosis are common every day. > Find out the truth about this ongoing scandal " > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > > joseph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 My husband is a vet, 100% disabled, so I am in the CHAMPVA program. They don't seem to want to do any more than they must to treat me. My husband doesn't seem to have any complaints about his treatment but he doesn't really want to go anyways. I have a pain in my left shoulder that has been there for nearly a year. The dr said that I probably injured the muscle and it would heal on it's own. That was about 5 months after I hurt it. He said it wouldn't do any good to tell me not to use my arm because no one listens. (You can't go days, weeks or months without using an arm. I have been very careful with it though.) My point is that the VA probably won't or never will give me the tests for further diagnoses on my thyroid. It was discovered about 2 years ago I had a polyp on my thyroid. It was checked out and found not to be cancerous. Then my husband's benefits got messed up and I couldn't go to the check up the next year. When things got straightened out they wouldn't send me to the specialist but did a sonogram to check on the growth of the polyp. They said they couldn't see any changes but I have to wonder if the thing affects how my thyroid works. How do you find out if your adrenals are fatigued? I was very anemic when I was a child, do you think that could have affected my thyroid as an adult? What are the early symptoms of Hashimoto's that would make you start looking for the cause? Thanks, Sylvia On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Cochrane <juliemc9@...> wrote: > Hi Edith, > > I take T3 only - cynomel. The T3 clears Reverse T3 out of your body and > then the T3 can actually work in your body. > > I'm on Hydrocortisone for adrenal fatigue - you can't take thyroid hormones > if you're adrenals are weak and not supported - another mistake drs > apparently often make - the thyroid hormones will further stress your > adrenals and just make everything worse. > > I also take iron - you need good iron levels for thyroid hormones to work. > > I had very low levels of iodine and take about 125mgs of Lugol's iodine > daily. Some people say you shouldn't take it with Hashimoto's, but > others > say that's it's good for you as long as you take the companion nutrients, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Does this tincture have a brand name? Or do you make it yourself? Thanks, Sylvia On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Don <hooty304@...> wrote: > Good and pure herbal tinctures made from organic / wild-crafted herbs can > be > helpful and nourish the thyroid...bladderrack and dulse... > d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Looking it up now. Thank you. Sylvia On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 3:42 PM, grgstrr <grgstrr@...> wrote: > You might want to check this website: wilsonstemperaturesyndrome.com You > can have normal readings and still have a thyroid that is not functioning > properly. 's deals with bringing the temperature up and then seeing > if the thyroid still needs help. Often raising the temperature is enough. > This approach recognizes that blood tests for thyroid function only tell > how much T3 or T4 is in the blood, but cannot tell what is happening at the > cell level in the conversion process. I don't understand all the technical > stuff, but I have done this protocol and it works if you have this syndrome. > You can find out on the website if you think you might have it. > > Georgia > > > > > > > I was just reading the post about hair loss and what to do about it. I > was reading about how low body temp may mean thyroid problems. My dr has > given me two of the normal tests and of course my results came back normal. > Low normal but still in the normal range. > > > > Thing is that when I read about the temp and how it relates to the > thyroid, it suddenly occured to me that my temp ranges as low as 95 but most > often it is around 97. The drs and nurses never say anything about it being > too low and seem to have a hard time understanding when I tell them that > when my temp is 99 I have a fever. > > > > Can anyone tell me how my thyroid can be in the normal range when my temp > usually runs 97? How does that work? Thanks, Sylvia > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 What do you do with bladderrack? ________________________________ From: SYLVIA PRICE <LadyofYorkies@...> Does this tincture have a brand name? Or do you make it yourself? Thanks, Sylvia On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Don <hooty304@...> wrote: > Good and pure herbal tinctures made from organic / wild-crafted herbs can > be > helpful and nourish the thyroid...bladderrack and dulse... > d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 Good Morning, Its interesting to see this discussion about thyroid problems. I had exactly the same problems, all tests normal, no hair, massive weight gain and was shunted around doctors until I cam across the marvellous Dr Peatfield ( Stop the thyroid Madness) he put me on the right track and I have never looked back. He is speaking at a conference in Skipton, Yorkshire, on 11th June-Its the TPA conference- their forum is Thyroid Patient Advocay- UK [thyroid treatment@... and is marvellous, full of useful and helpful information. The people who moderate it are always willing to help and I can't speak highly enough of their impact on my health and well being. Thyroid id just massively under diagnosed, don't think doctors know much about it at all, they just want to believe its the patients fault. Good Luck, I'm sure some one there will help you. Kind Regards helen > > I have had hair loss but it was at a time when I went undiagnosed as a > diabetic for a year. Since then I have also noticed that the hair on my arms > and legs have gone almost none existant. I thought that was due to aging. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Often people are lucky to discover their thyroid has been chronically suppressed by toxin load created by bowel dysbiosis, AKA bad bowel ecology. My doctor said about 80% of the adult population is affected by bowel dysbiosis with candida involvement. Candida can't exist when bowel ecology is correct, as the acidity is too much for it. The stress created by the toxin load of dysbiosis also drives cortisol and adrenaline high, as any stressor including malnutrition does. Malnutrition is also a product of malabsorption, and the inflammation of dysbiosis plays a role in malabsorption. So, one often discovers curing the carb/dysbiosis/low thyroid/high cortisol/high adrenaline/candida/adrenal fatigue often at the same time. The reason I say it's lucky is that it's dietary induced and diet can cure it. A lot of people don' wanna hear any of it, but a low-carb high saturated fat " anti-candida " and much healthier diet is the key. If you are in the 80% group that would be a good guess. all good, Duncan > > > they couldn't see any changes but I have to wonder if the thing affects how > my thyroid works. > > How do you find out if your adrenals are fatigued? I was very anemic when I > was a child, do you think that could have affected my thyroid as an adult? > What are the early symptoms of Hashimoto's that would make you start looking > for the cause? Thanks, Sylvia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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