Re: anti-biotics and the immune system

[Guest guest]

The reason why anti-biotics are devastaing to the immune system is

because 80 ~ 90% of your immune system is in your gut...

anti-biotics are non selective - killing good as well as bad flora in the gut...

leading to more dysbiosis...

anti = against /// biotic = life...

anti biotic is against life...we horpe that it kils / eliminates bad bugs in the

system.

But the reality is that it kills both good and bad and that is why after a run

of ANTIBIOTICS, ONE NEEDS TO REBUILD THE GOOD FLORA IN THE GUT.

(sorry hit the lock key - not yelling...)

d

From: Dolores <dgk@...>

Subject: Re: Immune system

Coconut Oil

Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 10:33 AM

 

You haven't answered her question.

Dee

> >>> We've already had a discussion on the immune system before. I've

> >>> expressed my opinion that coconut oil supports immune function

> >>> through its antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal, and antiparasitic

> >>> properties.

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> >> By that argument, you could say that any pharmaceutical drug

> >> 'supports immune function', but the truth is pharmaceutical

> >> antibiotics are devastating to the immune system.

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> > Why are antibiotics devastating to the immune system?

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> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=antibiotics+devastating+to+the+immune+system

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[Guest guest]

Yes, I know that. And I'm sure that Elaine does too. We're just wondering how

" Tanstassfl " is able to equate pharmaceutical antibiotics with the antibiotic,

antiviral, antifungal, and antiparasitic properties of coconut oil - which is a

natural food product used for centuries by people living in coconut growing

areas of the world.

Dee

> > >>> We've already had a discussion on the immune system before. I've

> > >>> expressed my opinion that coconut oil supports immune function

> > >>> through its antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal, and antiparasitic

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> > >> 'supports immune function', but the truth is pharmaceutical

> > >> antibiotics are devastating to the immune system.

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> > > Why are antibiotics devastating to the immune system?

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> > http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=antibiotics+devastating+to+the+immune+system

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[Guest guest]

From: Dolores <dgk@...>

Subject: Re: anti-biotics and the immune system

Coconut Oil

Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 11:41 AM

 

Yes, I know that. And I'm sure that Elaine does too. We're just wondering how

" Tanstassfl " is able to equate pharmaceutical antibiotics with the antibiotic,

antiviral, antifungal, and antiparasitic properties of coconut oil - which is a

natural food product used for centuries by people living in coconut growing

areas of the world.

Dee

> > >>> We've already had a discussion on the immune system before. I've

> > >>> expressed my opinion that coconut oil supports immune function

> > >>> through its antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal, and antiparasitic

> > >>> properties.

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> > >> By that argument, you could say that any pharmaceutical drug

> > >> 'supports immune function', but the truth is pharmaceutical

> > >> antibiotics are devastating to the immune system.

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> > > Why are antibiotics devastating to the immune system?

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> > http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=antibiotics+devastating+to+the+immune+system

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[Guest guest]

In research in the elderly, the immune system improved as the gut flora was

improved. The research used inulin to improve the gut flora.

all good,

Duncan

> > >>> We've already had a discussion on the immune system before. I've

> > >>> expressed my opinion that coconut oil supports immune function

> > >>> through its antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal, and antiparasitic

> > >>> properties.

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> > >> By that argument, you could say that any pharmaceutical drug

> > >> 'supports immune function', but the truth is pharmaceutical

> > >> antibiotics are devastating to the immune system.

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> > > Why are antibiotics devastating to the immune system?

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> > http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=antibiotics+devastating+to+the+immune+system

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[Guest guest]

On 2011-03-15 11:41 AM, Dolores wrote:

> Yes, I know that. And I'm sure that Elaine does too. We're just

> wondering how " Tanstassfl " is able to equate pharmaceutical antibiotics

> with the antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal, and antiparasitic properties

> of coconut oil - which is a natural food product used for centuries by

> people living in coconut growing areas of the world.

Hey, " Duhloress " - a novel idea... don't stick your nose in where it

wasn't invited.

Oh - and learn how to read with *comprehension* - your flawed

understanding of what I said above being the evidence in support of my

suggestion.

[Guest guest]

Well why not enlighten us then .

Dee

> > Yes, I know that. And I'm sure that Elaine does too. We're just

> > wondering how " Tanstassfl " is able to equate pharmaceutical antibiotics

> > with the antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal, and antiparasitic properties

> > of coconut oil - which is a natural food product used for centuries by

> > people living in coconut growing areas of the world.

>

> Hey, " Duhloress " - a novel idea... don't stick your nose in where it

> wasn't invited.

>

> Oh - and learn how to read with *comprehension* - your flawed

> understanding of what I said above being the evidence in support of my

> suggestion.

>

[Guest guest]

On 2011-03-15 4:36 PM, Dolores wrote:

> Marcus <tanstaafl@...> wrote:

>> On 2011-03-15 11:41 AM, Dolores wrote:

>>> Yes, I know that. And I'm sure that Elaine does too. We're just

>>> wondering how " Tanstassfl " is able to equate pharmaceutical antibiotics

>>> with the antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal, and antiparasitic properties

>>> of coconut oil - which is a natural food product used for centuries by

>>> people living in coconut growing areas of the world.

>> Hey, " Duhloress " - a novel idea... don't stick your nose in where it

>> wasn't invited.

>>

>> Oh - and learn how to read with *comprehension* - your flawed

>> understanding of what I said above being the evidence in support of my

>> suggestion.

> Well why not enlighten us then .

Sure... my fee for teaching someone how to read is $300/hr...

But I only take gold or silver, U.S. coin...

[Guest guest]

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Let's forget Elaine's question for a moment. Can I ask one of my own regarding

your post? Here is your original post.

>>>>> On 2011-03-14 2:40 PM, Bruce Fife wrote:

>>>>> We've already had a discussion on the immune system before. I've

>>>>> expressed my opinion that coconut oil supports immune function

>>>>> through its antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal, and antiparasitic

>>>>> properties.

Then you replied>>>> By that argument, you could say that any pharmaceutical

drug

>>>> 'supports immune function', but the truth is pharmaceutical

>>>> antibiotics are devastating to the immune system.

My question would be if by that comment you meant to equate the antibiotic,

antifungal, and antiparasitic properties with the known effects of

pharmaceutical antibiotics. I do think that anyone would deduce that from your

comment.

Dee

[Guest guest]

On 2011-03-15 5:00 PM, Dolores wrote:

> Let's forget Elaine's question for a moment. Can I ask one of my own

> regarding your post? Here is your original post.

>> On 2011-03-14 2:40 PM, Bruce Fife wrote:

>>> We've already had a discussion on the immune system before. I've

>>> expressed my opinion that coconut oil supports immune function

>>> through its antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal, and antiparasitic

>>> properties.

> replied:

>> By that argument, you could say that any pharmaceutical drug

>> 'supports immune function', but the truth is pharmaceutical

>> antibiotics are devastating to the immune system.

> My question would be if by that comment you meant to equate the

> antibiotic, antifungal, and antiparasitic properties with the known

> effects of pharmaceutical antibiotics.

Of course not.

> I do think that anyone would deduce that from your comment.

Only someone with a major reading comprehension problem.

You obviously missed (still miss?) the significance of the the first

three words...

Here endeth the (free) lesson. If you want more, I'm awaiting some

pieces of eight...

[Guest guest]

You funny, Seriously though, I noted the same thing with Dee in the

last couple of years and just posted it in my last reply to her.

Reading and comprehension are important in health IMO, a serious matter that

goes way beyond semantics and ego.

We can all read and spin a yarn but we can not all understand and compile

salient facts of an argument. It's OK; there's room for everyone, and health

professionals at least have a way in the forums to discuss the data and results

with each other. Some people participate and so on, probably the majority do

well enough to just read, save links and take notes, and a few delete eveything

they don't grasp right away, and then lip off the poster. Room for everyone.

all good,

Duncan

> >> Hey, " Duhloress " - a novel idea... don't stick your nose in where it

> >> wasn't invited.

> >>

> >> Oh - and learn how to read with *comprehension* - your flawed

> >> understanding of what I said above being the evidence in support of my

> >> suggestion.

>

> > Well why not enlighten us then .

>

> Sure... my fee for teaching someone how to read is $300/hr...

>

> But I only take gold or silver, U.S. coin...

>

[Guest guest]

Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@...> wrote:

>> By that argument, you could say that any pharmaceutical drug

> >> 'supports immune function', but the truth is pharmaceutical

> >> antibiotics are devastating to the immune system.

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Why you think its relevant to make a comment that possibly equates the effects

of antibiotics with the effects of coconut oil is incredulous to me - hence my

response " Why are antibiotics devastating to the immune system? "

So while it may be true pharmaceutical antibiotics are devastating to the immune

system, coconut oil isn't devastating to the immune system.

Your comment to Bruce Fife just seemed inflammatory, argumentative and not

discussion provoking. It also demonstrated little respect for his research.

Dee has no reading comprehension issues. It would be best to not suggest such

things, instead of explaining yourself, when your comments are questioned.

elaine

> >>> We've already had a discussion on the immune system before. I've

> >>> expressed my opinion that coconut oil supports immune function

> >>> through its antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal, and antiparasitic

> >>> properties.

>

> > replied:

> >> By that argument, you could say that any pharmaceutical drug

> >> 'supports immune function', but the truth is pharmaceutical

> >> antibiotics are devastating to the immune system.

>

> > My question would be if by that comment you meant to equate the

> > antibiotic, antifungal, and antiparasitic properties with the known

> > effects of pharmaceutical antibiotics.

>

> Of course not.

>

> > I do think that anyone would deduce that from your comment.

>

> Only someone with a major reading comprehension problem.

>

> You obviously missed (still miss?) the significance of the the first

> three words...

>

> Here endeth the (free) lesson. If you want more, I'm awaiting some

> pieces of eight...

>

[Guest guest]

It's a shame Duncan..... your condescending comments take away from your

contributions to the forum.

If you and others, like tanstaafl, were truly interested in education and

promoting discussion, emotion and personal attacks would be hard to find. You

realize it is a privilege to help people don't you?

How many people do you think ignore your posts because of your harshness at

times, and miss out on something valuable? Doesn't sound like a win-win

situation. Thank you.

elaine

> > >> Hey, " Duhloress " - a novel idea... don't stick your nose in where it

> > >> wasn't invited.

> > >>

> > >> Oh - and learn how to read with *comprehension* - your flawed

> > >> understanding of what I said above being the evidence in support of my

> > >> suggestion.

> >

> > > Well why not enlighten us then .

> >

> > Sure... my fee for teaching someone how to read is $300/hr...

> >

> > But I only take gold or silver, U.S. coin...

> >

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