Guest guest Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 There is a new factory in our province, Davao del Sur, Philippines, producing xylitol from coconut shells. It is the first factory of its kind in the world. We sell our coconut shells to them. Name of company: CJ Toyota Tsusho Philippines. Tony ________________________________ From: Dolores <dgk@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 10:34 PM Subject: Re: xylitol source  Hi Lyn, Check out this site: http://www.xylitol-brand-comparison.com/ Dee > > Does anyone know where I can get zylitol that is not made from corn? > > I read a certain review on the swanson website for a xylitol product and they said that mercola recommends xylitol be made with birch bark and not corn. All corn is GMO today. I tried to go on mercola's site so I could find the article and read it, but that was unsuccessful and they are not open yet to call for help. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 On 2011-08-04 11:06 AM, AGPacific Nutriceutical <agnutriceutical@...> wrote: > There is a new factory in our province, Davao del Sur, Philippines, > producing xylitol from coconut shells. It is the first factory of its > kind in the world. We sell our coconut shells to them. Name of company: > CJ Toyota Tsusho Philippines. Interesting - where can it be purchased? Is it's GI/GL profile any different from xylitol made from birch bark? What about it's tendency to cause diarrhea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Dee, Thank you for reminding me about erythritol. In truth, I am avoiding most sweeteners of all kinds as I have struggled with candida and leaky gut. I have made tremendous progress and by limiting my sweeteners I am hoping to reeducate my taste buds.....I am succeeding slowly. Leaky gut has left me exquisitely sensitive to all forms of dairy (even whey at this point) so my options for liver cleanses and intestine/gut healing products are limited. Xylotol is supposed to be anti-candida. I am not sure about erythritol, but will pursue that info. Coconut oil has not been a positive help in healing my intestines at this point....I did not have cholesterol problems before coconut oil (ranges good with HDL higher that LDL), but on coconut oil my good cholesterol went high into the 200's with below 40 for the bad. Finding safe food and healing been full time jobs Sincerely, Joan Hi Joan, Have you tried erythritol? It's very similar to xylitol but without the diarrhea issue unless you take waaay too much. I chew xylitol gum daily but use erythritol in place of sugar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erythritol While it is said that erythritol is 60-70% as sweet as sugar, I find that adding an equal amount as the recipe calls for is fine with me as I find that too many things are overly sweetened. Coconut sugar is also a healthy alternative but is very expensive and has the same calories as regular sugar. One could, however, mix it half and half with the erythritol as I have sometimes done with the erythritol and sugar if a recipe calls for a lot of sugar - like the cheese cake I make at Christmas. Best, Dee > > > I took advantage of this site's buy 2 gt 1 free sale. I got pretty > > > impressed with the health BENEFITS of a sweetener. I never thought a > > > sweetener would have so many health benefits, particularly anti-fungal, > > > as this one does. Wish I had been using this all along instead of the > > > less tasteful sweetener that is not to raise blood sugar and is allowed > > > on my diet: > > > > Just be careful - too much xylitol (varies from person to person) *will* > > cause diarrhea... > > > > Thanks for the warning, tho, I did not plan on using it internally. > > > > > Does anyone know anything about coconut palm sugar. I recently came > > > across this and it is not to raise blood sugar. > > > > Best alternative to sugar there is imnsho... > > What info have you found on it. The only thing I found was a short, limited study on the blood sugar and the report gave the disclaimer that the study took into account only " normal " ingestion of the sugar. Meaning, it did not go into what might happen if the sugar was used in a greater amount. I would like to know if it has health benefits because coconut itself is so therapeutic; what part of the tree or fruit is it made from and such like that. > > > > [ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 I am really confused about this aerobic oxygen.. do you expect there is really some form of oxygen in the water that your body will utilize through the digestive process? Or am I missing something here? laura c ________________________________ From: Dolores <dgk@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Thu, August 4, 2011 3:56:54 PM Subject: Re: xylitol source  Joan, Since I've been researching stabilized aerobic oxygen I came across this use for it: quote: " A pioneer of the use of Aerobic Oxygen in the UK is homoeopath Gordon Steward LCH, RSHom, who has used it in his practice for over two years for a variety of medical conditions. One which is on the increase is Candida albicans. Gordon says that this is partly due to poor eating habits and he is tough on patients' diets, correcting them in order to deprive the candida of its food source. " I totally ban fermented items such as wine and vinegar, plus yeast, sugar, mushrooms and other fungi and aim to strengthen the immune system. Even so, when candida has gained a stronghold, treatment has generally been painfully slow. However, by using Aerobic Oxygen, all the candida cases I have treated have been free of the disease within three to five months. I use a very low dose to start with, gradually increasing it, in order to avoid uncomfortable symptoms of detoxification, such as stomach cramps, which occur as the candida dies. " [8] http://www.positivehealth.com/article/nutrition/history-of-oxygen-therapies Best, Dee > > > Dee, > > Thank you for reminding me about erythritol. In truth, I am avoiding most >sweeteners of all kinds as I have struggled with candida and leaky gut. I have >made tremendous progress and by limiting my sweeteners I am hoping to reeducate >my taste buds.....I am succeeding slowly. > > Leaky gut has left me exquisitely sensitive to all forms of dairy (even whey at >this point) so my options for liver cleanses and intestine/gut healing products >are limited. > > Xylotol is supposed to be anti-candida. I am not sure about erythritol, but >will pursue that info. > > Coconut oil has not been a positive help in healing my intestines at this >point....I did not have cholesterol problems before coconut oil (ranges good >with HDL higher that LDL), but on coconut oil my good cholesterol went high into >the 200's with below 40 for the bad. > > Finding safe food and healing been full time jobs > > Sincerely, > > Joan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 On 2011-08-04 4:20 PM, Cody <lecody2001@...> wrote: > I am really confused about this aerobic oxygen.. do you expect there is > really > some form of oxygen in the water that your body will utilize through the > digestive process? Or am I missing something here? There is NO oxygen released when using 'Aerobic Oxygen' (aka 3% sodium chlorite solution). Anyone who says it releases oxygen doesn't know what they are talking about and/or are simply repeating marketing hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Dee, Aerobic oxygen is MMS now being called AOT and I'm going to take a pass on that. Great that it works for you. My detox pathways would not support the reaction caused my such a powerful antioxidant....I am sticking with the slow and steady approach. I had a rare yeast in addition to candida (from farmer's market cheese)and did well with diflucan and diet changes. Now I am working on rebuilding my immune system and health. I tried the coconut oil treatment and that didn't work out, but coconut milk is (and other substitiutes) are working fine in the place of dairy. I still have food sensitivities. A number of us got sick from the cheese and three of us still have ongoing issues. I was vibrantly healthy one day and two weeks later I couldn't leave my bathroom and food became the enemy. One of my chief concerns is the villi damage and inflammation that persists in my intestines which makes keeping the good bacteria from thriving. Stool testing shows progress, but still the good bacteria is not thriving like we want them to. Erythritol is one of the wood alcohols and small amounts of that may work for me. Sincerely, Joan Joan, Since I've been researching stabilized aerobic oxygen I came across this use for it: quote: " A pioneer of the use of Aerobic Oxygen in the UK is homoeopath Gordon Steward LCH, RSHom, who has used it in his practice for over two years for a variety of medical conditions. One which is on the increase is Candida albicans. Gordon says that this is partly due to poor eating habits and he is tough on patients' diets, correcting them in order to deprive the candida of its food source. " I totally ban fermented items such as wine and vinegar, plus yeast, sugar, mushrooms and other fungi and aim to strengthen the immune system. Even so, when candida has gained a stronghold, treatment has generally been painfully slow. However, by using Aerobic Oxygen, all the candida cases I have treated have been free of the disease within three to five months. I use a very low dose to start with, gradually increasing it, in order to avoid uncomfortable symptoms of detoxification, such as stomach cramps, which occur as the candida dies. " [8] http://www.positivehealth.com/article/nutrition/history-of-oxygen-therapies Best, Dee .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Then why is it called that? I can't see it as useful for anything.. laura c. ________________________________ From: Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Thu, August 4, 2011 4:47:21 PM Subject: Re: Re: xylitol source  On 2011-08-04 4:20 PM, Cody <lecody2001@...> wrote: > I am really confused about this aerobic oxygen.. do you expect there is > really > some form of oxygen in the water that your body will utilize through the > digestive process? Or am I missing something here? There is NO oxygen released when using 'Aerobic Oxygen' (aka 3% sodium chlorite solution). Anyone who says it releases oxygen doesn't know what they are talking about and/or are simply repeating marketing hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 On 2011-08-04 4:48 PM, Joan Dwyer <rosegardenstudio@...> wrote: > Aerobic oxygen is MMS now being called AOT This is imply not true (MMS/Aerobic Osygen is NOT the same as AOT) as I said before. Aerobic Oxygen is simply a 3% solution of sodium chlorite, and MMS is simply a much higher concentration (23-27%) of the same thing - sodium chlorite. AOT adds a LOT of stuff to the sodium chlorite, which, imnsho, causes it to react immediately, which diminishes if not eliminates any potential benefit of the sodium chlorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 On 2011-08-04 4:59 PM, Cody <lecody2001@...> wrote: > Then why is it called that? I can't see it as useful for anything.. It is marketing hype, pure and simple. But it *is* beneficial as a pathogen fighter... the benefit comes from what happens when the sodium chlorite comes into contact with the acids in the stomach (adding an acid is how you 'activate' MMS, so taking it internally in a way 'activates' it through the use of the HCL in your stomach). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 quote.... " Gordon says that this is partly due to poor eating habits and he is tough on patients' diets, correcting them in order to deprive the candida of its food source. " I totally ban fermented items such as wine and vinegar, plus yeast, sugar, mushrooms and other fungi and aim to strengthen the immune system " . Dee, I appreciated this part of your post so much. I am free of so many things....dairy, grains, yeast, alcohol of all kinds, fermented foods, sugar, high glycemic vegetables, chemicals and preservatives and more. I sometimes feel discouraged and hearing reminders from someone else help me to be strong and not cheat. I have come a long way and had great hope for coconut oil, but fish oil and cod liver oilhave proven to be better friends. Joan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Looks like you could use either this or wild oil of oregano for just about the same benefits. http://www.health-science-spirit.com/MMS.html http://www.oiloforegano.com/benefits-of-oil-of-oregano.html#side-effects laura c. ________________________________ From: Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Thu, August 4, 2011 5:02:05 PM Subject: Re: Re: xylitol source  On 2011-08-04 4:59 PM, Cody <lecody2001@...> wrote: > Then why is it called that? I can't see it as useful for anything.. It is marketing hype, pure and simple. But it *is* beneficial as a pathogen fighter... the benefit comes from what happens when the sodium chlorite comes into contact with the acids in the stomach (adding an acid is how you 'activate' MMS, so taking it internally in a way 'activates' it through the use of the HCL in your stomach). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Don't know Dee, my biggest problem with this product is the name.... its not accurate. And I don't know that this stuff can actually cure anemia either ... ....and the only thing I am sure that oregano oil does is that it is great for toothaches and mild infections in the skin and also herpes skin outbreaks. I am considering trying it for my lungs since there are no inhalers or nebulizer drugs I can use.   I am trying N-aceytl cysteine for the mucus.. seems to be working and the doctors haven't fussed about it at all. And I tell them all the things I experiment with. If you are trying to do something for arthritis you might try the certo/white grape juice first or maybe the gin soaked raisins. I found relief from the certo/juice and nothing from the gin/raisin. And if nothing else works, make some martinis and get soused I am a big believer in trying foods for cures before hitting the other stuff... laura c. ________________________________ From: Dolores <dgk@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Thu, August 4, 2011 6:14:04 PM Subject: Re: xylitol source  , Yes, oil of oregano is a potent anti-microbial, but can it do this? quote: " The Author became aware of Aerobic Oxygen during a conversation with a sufferer of arteriosclerosis, who claimed the product, which her homoeopath had recommended to her, had saved her life. Previously, the patient's specialist had treated her with injections of hydrogen peroxide. It is interesting to note that if red cells clump, 20-30 drops of Aerobic Oxygen in water will separate them after one hour.5 Suzanne was interested to see what effect the product would have on her own blood as she had needed iron supplements for eight years to treat a haemogloblin level that at its lowest had dropped to 6.9. During this time no cause had been found for the iron-deficient anaemia other than a failure to absorb iron from the diet. After three months without iron supplements, but taking Aerobic Oxygen, Suzanne's haemoglobin level was 13.8. " If you had read the entire article on the website I referenced (which does not sell any products) you would see that it is used in a NUMBER of ways. And I don't know where you got the idea that it takes oxygen out of the water? As I understand it water is simply used as a carrier. However, the decision as to what to take for your particular issues is yours and yours alone. I am still trying to decide whether to use it or not but thought others might be interested in the info I found regarding it's uses over the years. Dee > > Then why is it called that? I can't see it as useful for anything.. > > It is marketing hype, pure and simple. > > But it *is* beneficial as a pathogen fighter... the benefit comes from > what happens when the sodium chlorite comes into contact with the acids > in the stomach (adding an acid is how you 'activate' MMS, so taking it > internally in a way 'activates' it through the use of the HCL in your > stomach). > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 I only tried it external...it dries it out quickly, but next time, I may do both.. laura c ________________________________ From: e Rosewall <erosewall@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Thu, August 4, 2011 8:51:38 PM Subject: Re: xylitol source  , How does oil of oregano affect herpes outbreaks? Is it internal or external? Thanks, ....and the only thing I am sure that oregano oil does is that it is great for toothaches and mild infections in the skin and also herpes skin outbreaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 On 2011-08-04 9:49 PM, Huuman <huuman60@...> wrote: > New term, old stuff. It is an Oxidant not and Anti-oxidant. There is a > place for this, but my opinion is that it will age you. Only if taken to extremes, and mainly only if taken pre-activated. Used appropriately, it will not age you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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