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great answer tom

thanks

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Hello Kirk,Chlorine dioxide, chlorous acid (what activated MMS makes), and hypochlorous acid (what MMS2 makes when it comes into contact with water) are all bleaching agents at higher concentrations.Clorox bleach is sodium hypochlorite at 6% or 60000 PPM. MMS is sodium chlorite at 22.4% or 224000 PPM.With chlorine dioxide, bleaching starts at 300 PPM free chlorine dioxide.A 3 drop dose of MMS has a concentration of 190 PPM available chlorine dioxide with about 20 PPM of that as free chlorine dioxide.Tom>> is it true we are all drinking bleach?

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thank you healing hope

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[Guest guest]

Tom You are always stating the obvious and making it sound different, you are a

master of that. This is a subject generated and debated before, the response.

http://humblemiraclemineral.com/

Jim Humble MMS is not chlorine dioxide; Miracle Mineral Supplement – MMS is

sodium chlorite (NaClO2) 28%. Combining with acid briefly produces chlorous acid

(HClO2), which in sequential steps oxidizes ambient chlorite (ClO2-) to create

chlorine dioxide (ClO2).

Simply put, it does what it does in the water supply, but it does it in the

human body. It purifies the water in the body, which is most of your body, by

killing anything in the body that isn't supposed to be there.

It does this while leaving completely unharmed anything that is supposed to be

there like intestinal flora. This is an important distinction, as antibiotics

are indiscriminate in what they they kill. Killing what is supposed to be there

along with what is not.

>

>

> Hello Healinghope,

>

> Yes, the body does form hypochlorous acid AFTER the pathogen has been engulfed

and removed from the blood stream. The white blood cell then produces a small

amount of hypochlorous acid that kills the pathogen.

>

> This is much different than flooding the body with hypochlorous acid.

>

> I might also point out that the discussion about the theory of how chlorine

dioxide may possibly work inside the body is interesting, but when you mix up a

dose of MMS you are forming chlorous acid. This is different than simply having

chlorine dioxide in water and it behaves differently.

>

> Also, keep in mind that chlorine dioxide reacts strongly with biofilms, and

the mucous lining of the mouth and throat are biofilms. Take a mouthful of an

activated MMS dose, swish it around in your mouth for a short period of time and

spit it out into a glass. You will notice that all the free chlorine dioxide is

used up just by being in contact with your saliva.

>

> Now if someone could explain how chlorous acid works inside the body, we would

be on to something.

>

> Tom

>

>

> --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@>

wrote:

> >

> > And hypochlorus acid is also what the immune system of the human body uses

to fight disease, interesting, the design of the body. So lets look at how MMS

acts inside the body, not a test tube or pH strip.

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the detailed explanation of how MMS works. One thing I'd like a

refresher on is, why MMS couldn't be taken without activating first, as it will

be in contact with stomach acids which should do the same trick?

> >

> >

> > Hello Kirk,

> >

> > Chlorine dioxide, chlorous acid (what activated MMS makes), and hypochlorous

acid (what MMS2 makes when it comes into contact with water) are all bleaching

agents at higher concentrations.

> >

> > Clorox bleach is sodium hypochlorite at 6% or 60000 PPM. MMS is sodium

chlorite at 22.4% or 224000 PPM.

> >

> > With chlorine dioxide, bleaching starts at 300 PPM free chlorine dioxide.

> >

> > A 3 drop dose of MMS has a concentration of 190 PPM available chlorine

dioxide with about 20 PPM of that as free chlorine dioxide.

> >

> > Tom

> >

> >

> > --- In , " Kirk Crist " <kcrist@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > is it true we are all drinking bleach?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The human body and hypochlorous acid.

http://www.hsp-usa.com/faq/

http://www.sterilox.com/technology_humanbody.aspx

1. What is the active antimicrobial agent in (Hsp2O)® solutions?

The active ingredient of (Hsp2O)® solution is hypochlorous acid, a well known

and well noted biocidal agent, which is produced by the human body's natural

immune system to fight infection. It is completely safe for humans, animals, and

the environment.

2. Is it safe for humans, animals and the environment?

Yes, (Hsp2O)®solution is completely safe for humans and animals. Independent

research was done based on international standards to test acute oral toxicity,

skin sensitization, eye irritation, skin irritation and bacterial mutagenicity.

The research concluded that there is no known health risks associated with its

intended use. In addition, the solution is completely safe for the environment.

After its use, (Hsp2O)® turns into salt water; therefore, it requires absolutely

no disposal precautions. It also does not introduce chemical or soap residue

into the ecosystem.

3. How effective is the (Hsp2O)® solution?

It is highly effective against a wide variety of bacteria, viruses, fungi, mold

and mildew. These include:

Bacteria

Viruses

Fungi

Acinetobacter baumannii

C. Difficile

Escherichia coli (0157)

Enterococcus species (VRE)

Helicobacter pylori

Listeria

Legionella pneumophila

Mycobacterium avium-intracellulare

Mycobacterium bovis (TB)

Mycobacterium chelonae

Mycobacterium terrae

Mycobacterium tuberculosis (TB)

Mycobacterium xenopi

Mycobacterium smegmatis

Pseudomonas aeruginosa

Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA)

Samonella cholerasuis

Adenovirus type 4

Bacteriophage MS2

Hepatitis A & B (HAV)

Herpes virus type 1

HIV-1

Human and Animal Influenza (including H5N1 Avian Influenza)

MS2 virus

Human Norovirus (Norwalk)

Murine Norovirus

Orthopoxvirus

Poliovirus type 1

Poliovirus type 2

Aspergillus niger

Candida albicans

Trichophyton mentagrophytes

4. Does (Hsp2O)® cause antibiotic resistance?

The overuse and misuse of antibiotics have lead to the proliferation of

" superbugs " such as MRSA. (Hsp2O)®solution is effective against all types of

bacteria and viruses, including MRSA, and does not contribute to the development

of antibiotic resistance.

5. What is the difference between (Hsp2O)® solutions and bleach?

The main disinfecting ingredient in bleach is hypochlorite, where as the main

disinfecting ingredient in (Hsp2O)® solution is primarily hypochlorous acid.

Hypochlorous acid is well established to be substantially more effective

biocidal than hypochlorite bleach, yet is completely safe, natural and

non-toxic. Bleach, however, is known to be toxic, can cause severe tissue

damage, and is a breathing irritant.

6. How does (Hsp2O)® solution kill bacteria if they are non-toxic?

(Hsp2O)®solution contains hypochlorous acid that reacts with a variety of

microbial sub-cellular compounds, interferes with metabolic processes, and kills

individual bacterium exposed within milliseconds. In the human body, white blood

cells naturally produce hypochlorous acid as a defense against disease and

bacteria in the body.

>

>

> Hello Healinghope,

>

> Yes, the body does form hypochlorous acid AFTER the pathogen has been engulfed

and removed from the blood stream. The white blood cell then produces a small

amount of hypochlorous acid that kills the pathogen.

>

> This is much different than flooding the body with hypochlorous acid.

>

> I might also point out that the discussion about the theory of how chlorine

dioxide may possibly work inside the body is interesting, but when you mix up a

dose of MMS you are forming chlorous acid. This is different than simply having

chlorine dioxide in water and it behaves differently.

>

> Also, keep in mind that chlorine dioxide reacts strongly with biofilms, and

the mucous lining of the mouth and throat are biofilms. Take a mouthful of an

activated MMS dose, swish it around in your mouth for a short period of time and

spit it out into a glass. You will notice that all the free chlorine dioxide is

used up just by being in contact with your saliva.

>

> Now if someone could explain how chlorous acid works inside the body, we would

be on to something.

>

> Tom

>

>

> --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@>

wrote:

> >

> > And hypochlorus acid is also what the immune system of the human body uses

to fight disease, interesting, the design of the body. So lets look at how MMS

acts inside the body, not a test tube or pH strip.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Healinghope,

Measure the PH of your solution.

When you add chlorine dioxide to water it does not change the PH of the

solution. When you add an acid to sodium chlorite you form chlorous acid. It

has a PH of around 3. This is not a " brief " process. It lasts 8 - 12 weeks.

Drinking acids disrupts and kills the some of the flora inside you.

Tom

--- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...>

wrote:

>

> Tom You are always stating the obvious and making it sound different, you are

a master of that. This is a subject generated and debated before, the response.

[Guest guest]

Tom With our history this has been debated before, since you cut off the

response to the comment let me add it back again.

http://humblemiraclemineral.com/

Jim Humble MMS is not chlorine dioxide; Miracle Mineral Supplement – MMS is

sodium chlorite (NaClO2) 28%. Combining with acid briefly produces chlorous acid

(HClO2), which in sequential steps oxidizes ambient chlorite (ClO2-) to create

chlorine dioxide (ClO2).

Simply put, it does what it does in the water supply, but it does it in the

human body. It purifies the water in the body, which is most of your body, by

killing anything in the body that isn't supposed to be there.

It does this while leaving completely unharmed anything that is supposed to be

there like intestinal flora. This is an important distinction, as antibiotics

are indiscriminate in what they they kill. Killing what is supposed to be there

along with what is not.

>

>

> Hello Healinghope,

>

> Measure the PH of your solution.

>

> When you add chlorine dioxide to water it does not change the PH of the

solution. When you add an acid to sodium chlorite you form chlorous acid. It

has a PH of around 3. This is not a " brief " process. It lasts 8 - 12 weeks.

>

> Drinking acids disrupts and kills the some of the flora inside you.

>

> Tom

>

>

> --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@>

wrote:

> >

> > Tom You are always stating the obvious and making it sound different, you

are a master of that. This is a subject generated and debated before, the

response.

>

[Guest guest]

Tom most scientist disagree with the theory of flora being destroyed. In

solution sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is very alkaline and stable but when acidified

it forms the gas chlorine dioxide (ClO2) which smells the same as chlorine and

probably is the strongest all-round antimicrobial and parasite remedy. While it

destroys all anaerobic microbes and parasites, it does not damage the beneficial

lactobacteria of our intestinal flora. The only residue left in water, food, or

in the body after treatment with MMS is a tiny amount of table salt or sodium

chloride (NaCl).

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/miracle.htm

http://malaria01.org/

>

>

> Hello Healinghope,

>

> Measure the PH of your solution.

>

> When you add chlorine dioxide to water it does not change the PH of the

solution. When you add an acid to sodium chlorite you form chlorous acid. It

has a PH of around 3. This is not a " brief " process. It lasts 8 - 12 weeks.

>

> Drinking acids disrupts and kills the some of the flora inside you.

>

> Tom

>

>

> --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@>

wrote:

> >

> > Tom You are always stating the obvious and making it sound different, you

are a master of that. This is a subject generated and debated before, the

response.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Healinghope,

That is some excellent information... In particular this part:

" When pathogens invade a human cell, neutrophils travel to the infection site to

destroy the invading pathogen. The first step in this process is engulfing the

pathogen. "

And then this part:

" Once the neutrophil has completely surrounded the pathogen, it produces an

oxidant, hypochlorous acid. Hypochlorous acid is a biocide, meaning it kills

organic material. Once produced by the neutrophil, it kills the bacteria almost

instantly. "

Pay particular attention to the part where hypochlorous acid is a biocide that

kills organic material.

I wonder, is there any organic material inside the body? Can there be any

problems with drinking a biocide that kills organic material? Why does the body

engulf the pathogen before intoducing the biocide to kill it? Wouldn't it be

better just to circulate biocides through the body and eliminate the engulfing

process?

Tom

--- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...>

wrote:

>

> The human body and hypochlorous acid.

> http://www.hsp-usa.com/faq/

> http://www.sterilox.com/technology_humanbody.aspx

> 1. What is the active antimicrobial agent in (Hsp2O)® solutions?

>

> The active ingredient of (Hsp2O)® solution is hypochlorous acid, a well known

and well noted biocidal agent, which is produced by the human body's natural

immune system to fight infection. It is completely safe for humans, animals, and

the environment.

>

> 2. Is it safe for humans, animals and the environment?

>

> Yes, (Hsp2O)®solution is completely safe for humans and animals. Independent

research was done based on international standards to test acute oral toxicity,

skin sensitization, eye irritation, skin irritation and bacterial mutagenicity.

The research concluded that there is no known health risks associated with its

intended use. In addition, the solution is completely safe for the environment.

After its use, (Hsp2O)® turns into salt water; therefore, it requires absolutely

no disposal precautions. It also does not introduce chemical or soap residue

into the ecosystem.

>

> 3. How effective is the (Hsp2O)® solution?

>

> It is highly effective against a wide variety of bacteria, viruses, fungi,

mold and mildew. These include:

>

> Bacteria

>

> Viruses

>

> Fungi

>

> Acinetobacter baumannii

> C. Difficile

> Escherichia coli (0157)

> Enterococcus species (VRE)

> Helicobacter pylori

> Listeria

> Legionella pneumophila

> Mycobacterium avium-intracellulare

> Mycobacterium bovis (TB)

> Mycobacterium chelonae

> Mycobacterium terrae

> Mycobacterium tuberculosis (TB)

> Mycobacterium xenopi

> Mycobacterium smegmatis

> Pseudomonas aeruginosa

> Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA)

> Samonella cholerasuis

>

> Adenovirus type 4

> Bacteriophage MS2

> Hepatitis A & B (HAV)

> Herpes virus type 1

> HIV-1

> Human and Animal Influenza (including H5N1 Avian Influenza)

> MS2 virus

> Human Norovirus (Norwalk)

> Murine Norovirus

> Orthopoxvirus

> Poliovirus type 1

> Poliovirus type 2

>

> Aspergillus niger

> Candida albicans

> Trichophyton mentagrophytes

>

>

>

> 4. Does (Hsp2O)® cause antibiotic resistance?

>

> The overuse and misuse of antibiotics have lead to the proliferation of

" superbugs " such as MRSA. (Hsp2O)®solution is effective against all types of

bacteria and viruses, including MRSA, and does not contribute to the development

of antibiotic resistance.

>

> 5. What is the difference between (Hsp2O)® solutions and bleach?

>

> The main disinfecting ingredient in bleach is hypochlorite, where as the main

disinfecting ingredient in (Hsp2O)® solution is primarily hypochlorous acid.

Hypochlorous acid is well established to be substantially more effective

biocidal than hypochlorite bleach, yet is completely safe, natural and

non-toxic. Bleach, however, is known to be toxic, can cause severe tissue

damage, and is a breathing irritant.

>

> 6. How does (Hsp2O)® solution kill bacteria if they are non-toxic?

>

> (Hsp2O)®solution contains hypochlorous acid that reacts with a variety of

microbial sub-cellular compounds, interferes with metabolic processes, and kills

individual bacterium exposed within milliseconds. In the human body, white blood

cells naturally produce hypochlorous acid as a defense against disease and

bacteria in the body.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Healinghope,

All scientists agree that chlorine dioxide is a biocide. That means that it

kills organic material.

Are you suggesting that flora is not organic material?

Tom

--- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...>

wrote:

>

> Tom most scientist disagree with the theory of flora being destroyed. In

solution sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is very alkaline and stable but when acidified

it forms the gas chlorine dioxide (ClO2) which smells the same as chlorine and

probably is the strongest all-round antimicrobial and parasite remedy. While it

destroys all anaerobic microbes and parasites, it does not damage the beneficial

lactobacteria of our intestinal flora. The only residue left in water, food, or

in the body after treatment with MMS is a tiny amount of table salt or sodium

chloride (NaCl).

> http://www.health-science-spirit.com/miracle.htm

> http://malaria01.org/

[Guest guest]

I smell a FUNGUS amongst us.... Healinghope is obviously an fda mole.... Go away... you aren't welcome here! I really mean that.... don't test me!On Feb 27, 2011, at 7:51 PM, silverfox_science wrote:

Hello Healinghope,

All scientists agree that chlorine dioxide is a biocide. That means that it kills organic material.

Are you suggesting that flora is not organic material?

Tom

>

> Tom most scientist disagree with the theory of flora being destroyed. In solution sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is very alkaline and stable but when acidified it forms the gas chlorine dioxide (ClO2) which smells the same as chlorine and probably is the strongest all-round antimicrobial and parasite remedy. While it destroys all anaerobic microbes and parasites, it does not damage the beneficial lactobacteria of our intestinal flora. The only residue left in water, food, or in the body after treatment with MMS is a tiny amount of table salt or sodium chloride (NaCl).

> http://www.health-science-spirit.com/miracle.htm

> http://malaria01.org/

[Guest guest]

I am a FDA mole wow! Why would you say that? Oh Conrad you are blinded my

friend. I have done nothing but defend the use of MMS for years. read my post,

then call me a mole again. Ignorance pure and simple!

>

> >

> > Hello Healinghope,

> >

> > All scientists agree that chlorine dioxide is a biocide. That means that it

kills organic material.

> >

> > Are you suggesting that flora is not organic material?

> >

> > Tom

> >

> > --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Tom most scientist disagree with the theory of flora being destroyed. In

solution sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is very alkaline and stable but when acidified

it forms the gas chlorine dioxide (ClO2) which smells the same as chlorine and

probably is the strongest all-round antimicrobial and parasite remedy. While it

destroys all anaerobic microbes and parasites, it does not damage the beneficial

lactobacteria of our intestinal flora. The only residue left in water, food, or

in the body after treatment with MMS is a tiny amount of table salt or sodium

chloride (NaCl).

> > > http://www.health-science-spirit.com/miracle.htm

> > > http://malaria01.org/

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Do not threaten me either Conrad!

>

> >

> > Hello Healinghope,

> >

> > All scientists agree that chlorine dioxide is a biocide. That means that it

kills organic material.

> >

> > Are you suggesting that flora is not organic material?

> >

> > Tom

> >

> > --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Tom most scientist disagree with the theory of flora being destroyed. In

solution sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is very alkaline and stable but when acidified

it forms the gas chlorine dioxide (ClO2) which smells the same as chlorine and

probably is the strongest all-round antimicrobial and parasite remedy. While it

destroys all anaerobic microbes and parasites, it does not damage the beneficial

lactobacteria of our intestinal flora. The only residue left in water, food, or

in the body after treatment with MMS is a tiny amount of table salt or sodium

chloride (NaCl).

> > > http://www.health-science-spirit.com/miracle.htm

> > > http://malaria01.org/

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Only time will tell the full truth of experience. Perhaps I've misunderstood your true intentions. Then again.... Perhaps I have not!On Feb 27, 2011, at 8:07 PM, healinghope wrote:

I am a FDA mole wow! Why would you say that? Oh Conrad you are blinded my friend. I have done nothing but defend the use of MMS for years. read my post, then call me a mole again. Ignorance pure and simple!

> > >

> > > Tom most scientist disagree with the theory of flora being destroyed. In solution sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is very alkaline and stable but when acidified it forms the gas chlorine dioxide (ClO2) which smells the same as chlorine and probably is the strongest all-round antimicrobial and parasite remedy. While it destroys all anaerobic microbes and parasites, it does not damage the beneficial lactobacteria of our intestinal flora. The only residue left in water, food, or in the body after treatment with MMS is a tiny amount of table salt or sodium chloride (NaCl).

> > > http://www.health-science-spirit.com/miracle.htm

> > > http://malaria01.org/

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Search my post for years since this group was started. You my friend have

confused the sides here, the mole is under your nose and you don't even smell

the fungus!

> > > > >

> > > > > Tom most scientist disagree with the theory of flora being destroyed.

In solution sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is very alkaline and stable but when

acidified it forms the gas chlorine dioxide (ClO2) which smells the same as

chlorine and probably is the strongest all-round antimicrobial and parasite

remedy. While it destroys all anaerobic microbes and parasites, it does not

damage the beneficial lactobacteria of our intestinal flora. The only residue

left in water, food, or in the body after treatment with MMS is a tiny amount of

table salt or sodium chloride (NaCl).

> > > > > http://www.health-science-spirit.com/miracle.htm

> > > > > http://malaria01.org/

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Perhaps.... perhaps not.On Feb 27, 2011, at 8:23 PM, healinghope wrote:

Search my post for years since this group was started. You my friend have confused the sides here, the mole is under your nose and you don't even smell the fungus!

> > > > >

> > > > > Tom most scientist disagree with the theory of flora being destroyed. In solution sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is very alkaline and stable but when acidified it forms the gas chlorine dioxide (ClO2) which smells the same as chlorine and probably is the strongest all-round antimicrobial and parasite remedy. While it destroys all anaerobic microbes and parasites, it does not damage the beneficial lactobacteria of our intestinal flora. The only residue left in water, food, or in the body after treatment with MMS is a tiny amount of table salt or sodium chloride (NaCl).

> > > > > http://www.health-science-spirit.com/miracle.htm

> > > > > http://malaria01.org/

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Conrad,

There is absolutely nothing to support your theory...

Tom

>

> I smell a FUNGUS amongst us.... Healinghope is obviously an fda mole....

>

> Go away... you aren't welcome here! I really mean that.... don't test me!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tom in regards to flora being organic, and concerns of chlorine dioxide interfering with organics. Silva of Sanford, NC, a water treatment professional with 20 years experience, submitted the following:http://www.watertechonline.com/article.asp?indexid=66313571. No mention was made in the article at all about using chlorine dioxide as a combatant forLegionella.2. Chlorine dioxide is the most effective biocide available for Legionella and biofilm, which needs to be removed for proper scale/corrosion/microbiological control in a cooling system.3. High doses of chlorine are corrosive to most cooling systems' metallurgy and the corrosion products and Legionella have a negative synergism. Rule No. 1 for controlling Legionella is to have a clean, corrosion product (rust) free system. This should have been mentioned.4. Chlorine dioxide has the following attributes:· It is the most effective biocide against Legionella.· It is the most effective biocide for the destruction of biofilm.· It oxidizes and does not chlorinate.· It is not affected by pH (high or low).· It does not hydrolyze in water (it remains as a gas).· It reacts within seconds with oxidizable materials.· It does not form chloramines.· It will destroy phenols without creating chlorinated phenols, does not form trihalomethanes (THMs), and it does not react with azoles.· It does not react with ammonia or nitrogen.· It does not react with organics (see above).· It has a low corrosivity to metals (much lower than chlorine calcium hypo, sodium hypo or gas). of Aqua Technical Services Inc. in Liverpool, NY, offers the following:· Infectious dose. The infectious dose for many bacterial-induced illnesses has never been determined - would you allow yourself to be injected with a solution containing one organism? If no, then why continue the argument against testing on that false premise?> >> > Tom most scientist disagree with the theory of flora being destroyed. In solution sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is very alkaline and stable but when acidified it forms the gas chlorine dioxide (ClO2) which smells the same as chlorine and probably is the strongest all-round antimicrobial and parasite remedy. While it destroys all anaerobic microbes and parasites, it does not damage the beneficial lactobacteria of our intestinal flora. The only residue left in water, food, or in the body after treatment with MMS is a tiny amount of table salt or sodium chloride (NaCl).> > http://www.health-science-spirit.com/miracle.htm> > http://malaria01.org/>

[Guest guest]

Now for the explanation. As the gas is slowly released in the stomach, red blood

cells pick up some of it. It looks like oxygen to the red blood cells. The blood

has already come from the lungs where the normal amount of oxygen was picked up,

but there are always some red cells that are looking to pick up oxygen and they

happily pick up the chlorine dioxide gas and carry it throughout the body.

The blood carries the gas and the gas has no attraction to normal body cells.

The gas is " hungry " to find any object that has electrons to give up. Upon

coming near any virus or pathogen, with sudden magnetic force it snaps into

contact with the germ ripping four or five electrons from the wall of the

pathogen. The internal parts of the pathogen fall apart unprotected by the

normal outer shell. The fragments float away in the blood stream and eventually

reach the liver where the intelligent liver sorts and marks the fragments as

TOXINS to be sent to your elimination systems.

What happened to the molecule of chlorine dioxide that did the killing? That MMS

molecule in most cases cannot proceed to do more killings. Its appetite for

electrons was satisified. It instantly transforms into two molecules of water

and one molecule of salt (sodium chloride). We are not talking about water DROPS

or salt crystals here. These are molecules. If you know the difference you won't

be worried that you'll get too much salt in your blood. The salt on one potato

chip would be something to keep you awake at night - not this single salt

molecule. Blood has a normal salt level slightly less than sea water most of the

time - it is essential and necessary.

Each ClO2 gas molecule is self-sacrificing. It is used up after one or two

killings. Unlike drug-store pills where you expect a chemical or drug to do a

thousand things before being used up, this ClO2 gas gets used up rather quickly.

Jim Humble was thoughtful in formulating MMS so that it continues to SLOWLY

produce the gas for up to 1.5 to 2 hours allowing a slow, deliberate cleansing

effect over time.

> > >

> > > Tom most scientist disagree with the theory of flora being

> destroyed. In solution sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is very alkaline and

> stable but when acidified it forms the gas chlorine dioxide (ClO2) which

> smells the same as chlorine and probably is the strongest all-round

> antimicrobial and parasite remedy. While it destroys all anaerobic

> microbes and parasites, it does not damage the beneficial lactobacteria

> of our intestinal flora. The only residue left in water, food, or in the

> body after treatment with MMS is a tiny amount of table salt or sodium

> chloride (NaCl).

> > > http://www.health-science-spirit.com/miracle.htm

> > > http://malaria01.org/

> >

>

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I concur..

M~R

On 2/27/2011 6:18 PM, silverfox_science wrote:

Hello Conrad,

There is absolutely nothing to support your theory...

Tom

>

> I smell a FUNGUS amongst us.... Healinghope is

obviously an fda mole....

>

> Go away... you aren't welcome here! I really mean

that.... don't test me!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Vitamin" O "The Stabilised Oxygen Storyhttp://www.oxyrich.info/information/oxygen/oxy%20vito.phpDuring the course of man's history there have been scientific discoveries contributing significantly to human health. Such a discovery is the process of making stabilised electrolytes of oxygen.Stabilised Oxygen products are often confused with Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2), but are vastly different in its mode of action, variety of uses and safety. Stabilised Oxygen or S.O. is a breed of super oxygenating products developed initially by Dr. F. Koch MD. Ph.D. It was designed to destroy any known and unknown micro-organism with a minimum dose, whilst maintaining its safety to the host.In addition to being Stabilised Oxygen's discoverer, this European medical doctor, scientist and humanitarian dedicated his life to the treatment of mentally retarded children. He believed a shortage of oxygen to the brain cells to be one of the major causes of retardation, and devoted 15 years to the research and development of another process apart from breathing for supplying oxygen to the brain. His formula produced non-toxic stabilised electrolytes of oxygen, identical to those in the respiration process. After developing stabilised oxygen, the doctor used it in his practice for many years. Over the years the formula found its way into other countries around the world where it was formulated into other products. S.O. was incorporated into these formulas because the non- toxic form of stabilised oxygen was an alternative to toxic chemical preservatives in aloe Vera health aids, skin care products and in foods and beverages. It is now marketed as a bactericide, an oxygen health supplement and a water disinfectant.Is it safe ? The simple answer is Yes, especially with the recent release of Di-Atomic O2xygen a non chemically formulated S.O. product consisting of a neutral pH. Unlike its distant relative, (H2O2), all research and patient trials conducted reveal no problems with prolonged usage of S.O.How does it work? It works simply releasing chlorite ions, trace amounts of sodium and chlorine dioxide, plus substantial amounts of molecular oxygen into the blood plasma. The reaction is triggered when the alkaline S.O. (pH 12.5) comes into contact with the strong acids found in the stomach (pH3). It becomes highly unstable and breaks down immediately.Tests carried out in Australia have shown that S.O. products with a high pH have the pH reduced to near the pH of the water into which it is dosed and therefore the long held believe that Stabilised Oxygen must be of a high alkalinity (pH) in order to work is a wrong assumption. Contrary to this, a neutral or near neutral pH of the S.O. is desirable as the release of the oxygen in the gastric fluid is slowed down allowing the body to absorb and utilize the valuable oxygen ions (electrolytes))Stabilised Oxygen is a high concentrate of oxygen. That is, oxygen in molecular form. Just like the oxygen that is breathed from the atmosphere through the lungs, changed to oxygen molecules and deposited in the blood. In this form the oxygen molecules transfer from the blood to the iron atoms on the red blood cells and then to the cells of the body.S.O. is helpful in a myriad of ways besides its obvious anti-bacterial anti-viral, and anti-fungal properties. For example, it can be added to contaminated water ( 20 to 30 drops per litre) and left to stand for 24 hours to completely neutralize any potential harmful water -borne pathogens that may be present.One can imagine how beneficial this is for anyone travelling to third world countries, where Giardia Lamblia is a real problem. (Unfortunately this virus has also been detected in Australian water supplies!) Stabilised Oxygen's uses in clinical practice offers a new tool to the practitioner wanting to accelerate the results of herbal, vitamin enzyme and mineral supplements, while providing an outstanding prophylactic to the general public. Typically the areas of highest efficacy are the treatment of Herpes, Candida, the flu, low grade chest infections, colds, Asthma and Eczema.Stabilised Oxygen is listed as stabilised electrolytes of oxygen, so it makes good sense to explain what an electrolyte is. An electrolyte is any substance that dissolves in water and conducts electricity. Science is not certain what role ferromagnetism plays in oxygen's affinity for the iron in the red blood cell, but there is little doubt that permanent magnetism as well as electromagnetism plays a role. When a electrolyte dissolves, an equal number of negatively charged and positively charged atoms called ions are released. The two most common electrolytes in human blood plasma and body fluids are sodium and chlorine. The body fluid balance is extremely important to life and health, and electrolytes play a key role in maintaining that natural balance. Physiologists know that where sodium goes, water soon follows.Stabilised Oxygen actually puts oxygen in to the blood without the process of breathing. It cannot over-oxidize the cells because the iron atoms on the red blood cells can only release the amount of oxygen which the cells can use. When taken orally, Stabilised Oxygen is non toxic. To understand the real value of the oxygen in Stabilised Oxygen, one must understand the effect of oxygen on each type of bacteria. There are innumerable bacteria present in each type. Aerobic bacteria are the friendly bacteria - the beneficial bacteria of the soil, the earth, the water, the food and the body. Aerobic bacteria are the normal flora of the body and cannot survive without the presence of oxygen.Anaerobic bacteria are the disease , infectious, putrefying and contamination causing bacteria from the earth, water, food and the body. Anaerobic bacteria cannot survive in the presence of oxygen. However, there are anaerobic bacteria which can live in both aerobic and anaerobic conditions, but they are not disease and infectious bacteria. They could be part of the normal flora of the skin and the bowel.The most common recommended use of Stabilised Oxygen is for immune protection, which is becoming increasingly important in this world of virulent flu's and rampant Candida. Stabilised Oxygen is an excellent preventative as attested to by the experience of the thousands who discovered Stabilised Oxygen in a time of need and found how refreshing it is to feel healthy and aerobic. They then decided to make it part of their daily regimen. What is particularly important is that Stabilised Oxygen has reportedly been proven effective where antibiotic resistant strains of common viruses have been encountered.As with any oxidative modality Stabilised Oxygen should be used along with a quality antioxidant such as Vitamin E, Vitamin A, Selenium or S.O.D These supplements are commonly available at Health Food StoresThe recommended dose for internal therapeutic use is 8 to 15 drops taken in 250ml of water 2 to 3 times daily. Add the drops to an empty glass, then fill with water or suitable juice. This is rather important as the Stabilised Oxygen is lighter in density than water and unless properly dispersed in solution, will tent to float on the surface. For topical application most available brands of Stabilised Oxygen must be diluted at least 1:5 or 1:10 or weaker if the skin is sensitive or broken because most available S.O. are of an extremely caustic pH (up to pH 13 which actually is classified as dangerous goods) However when using the Di-Atomic O2xygen Brand of Stabilised Oxygen the aforementioned precautionary instructions are not necessary as this particular preparation is of a Bio Electrical Manufacture (BEM), meaning not through mixing of chemicals, and has a inherent pH of 7.5-7.9 (neutral) Di-Atomic O2xygen if preferred can be taken with fruit juices or milk but must be consumed within a short time as the abundance of organic matter and the acidic pH of most fruit juices will break the bond between the Oxygen and sodium.Have you taken your Vitamin "O" today ?How does oxygen actually kill anaerobic bacteria?Firstly, these micro-organisms possess an electrical charge. An oxygen molecule is short one electron on its outer orbit, thus trying to acquire a electron to replace the missing electron orbiting the oxygen molecule. When this oxygen molecule encounters a infectious or putrefying bacteria it will strip the electron away from the outer protective membrane of the micro-organism. This is known as cell lysing. Without the electron on its outer protective membrane the anaerobic bacteria cannot survive and is killed.Science has yet to discover an anaerobic disease, infectious or putrefying bacteria that Stabilised Oxygen does not kill. It is the only non-toxic, virtually tasteless product known that will kill these harmful bacteria in a person's body without killing the beneficial bacteria. In fact, stabilised oxygen actually stimulates the growth and development of the normal flora since they require oxygen. A more technical name for the non-toxic stabilised electrolytes of oxygen in molecular form is Bio Magnetic Mineral Oxides. They are reportedly effective against: E-coli, streptococcus, pseudomonas and staphylococcus aureus (Golden Staph, the modern day curse in hospitals), giardia lamblia.Stabilised Oxygen is also effective for spraying onto food preparation surfaces to retard bacterial growth.( at this point the author also recommends the spraying of food stuffs such as chicken, fish and red meats. However such a practice is very dangerous as the stabilised oxygen only destroys the putrefying bacteria on the surface but not within the food, where bacterial contamination could be present. Thus the effected food would still be poisonous. Such a practice basically removes the "Off" smell which is natures warning not to consume that food!)At the Science Research Centre of Abilene. Texas USA in May, 1984, Stabilised Oxygen was tested against five intestinal pathogens: Salmonella, typhl, Viberia cholerae, Campylobacter fetus, ss jejuni and Escherichio coli. All of these micro-organisms are common water born pathogens which cause the majority of acute gastrointestinal illnesses and are responsible for the deaths of a large number of children in many countries where untreated water is used. One study showed that Stabilised Oxygen can be used effectively to treat contaminated water and the amount of material needed to effectively destroy all pathogens is dependent on the amount of organic matter found in the water and also on the total amount of bacteria present.In the manner that other dietary vitamin and mineral supplements enhance different body functions, Stabilised Oxygen can act as a supplement to the body's total function by adding oxidation potential. Since its action occurs at a fundamental cellular level, it can assist the body to fight a variety of infectious agents. Research has also determined that it may act as a very effective scavenger of toxic free radicals from environmental sources or those that are normally reproduced within the body itself. S.O. is known to release simple mineral agents that appear to be active against bacteria and fungi as well as a number of viruses.Oxygen deficiency, or oxygen starvation can be the single greatest cause of disease. Oxygen plays a critical role in the proper functioning of the Immune System. It is the source of life and energy to all cells. Bodily abuse through eating and drinking habits including pollutants and toxic preservative in our water and food, air pollution, use of drugs and the lack of exercise can greatly reduce the amount of oxygen available to the cells. When there is insufficient oxygen to support the health of a cell, the cell turns to another source of energy, usually sugar fermentation. This is an undesirable source of energy which upsets the metabolism of the cell. It causes the cell to start manufacturing improper chemicals, and soon a whole group of cells is unhealthy and weak. They lose their natural immune ability, and this opens the doors to the invasion of viruses, for a virus can only develop within a cell. Thus development of a shortage of oxygen in the blood could very well be the starting point for the loss of the immune system and the beginning of feared health problems such as cancer, leukemia, aids, seizures, nerve deterioration, etc. Once the body is in an oxygen depleted state, one may suffer toxic headaches, swollen lymph glands and nodes, and the onset of the dreaded .. osis .. diseases such as arteriosclerosis and multiple sclerosis. Another early warning of immune system failure is Amyotrophic lateral allergies, colds and possible migraine. What compounds these problems in the body is oxygen deprivation and lack of antioxidants such as Vitamin C, E, SOD and Selenium. ( It is interesting to note that a recent 15 year study on the effect of Selenium found that the test group of people given the selenium had a up to 60% lesser occurrence of all sorts of cancer, than the control group who were given a placebo) Eating processed foods that are deficient in oxygen and nutrients causes the oxygen to be depleted in the blood stream as the body builds up lactic acid, the acid of fatigue and sore muscles or acidosis. Antioxidants help to restore oxygen as does iron, which is an oxygen transporter, to keep the lactic acid low, these problems can all benefit from using Stabilised Oxygen in water or juice.The use of antibiotics, particularly such broad spectrum ones as tetracycline, provide a short term relief of infection but are countered by a possible long term negative effect. The antibiotics may not be killing the target bacteria, but may be converting them to pleomorphic forms (L forms), which may not only reactive at a later date, but may continue to produce toxins which can lead to a URS condition ( Universal Reactor Syndrome) The conversion of bacteria to such L forms may be providing symptomatic relief, but at the same time setting the stage for a later pathology.The mechanism of Stabilised Oxygen involves the utilisation of chlorite by the cells, particularly leukocytes, as a substrate to increase the efficiency of a group of enzymes known as peroxidases. These enzymes are an important component within the immune system since they are involved in the oxidation of foreign material (e.g. Viruses).At the Science Research Centre of Abilene. Texas USA in May, 1984, Stabilised Oxygen was tested against five intestinal pathogens: Salmonella, typhl, Viberia cholerae, Campylobacter fetus, ss jejuni and Escherichio coli. All of these micro-organisms are common water born pathogens which cause the majority of acute gastrointestinal illnesses and are responsible for the deaths of a large number of children in many countries where untreated water is used. One study showed that Stabilised Oxygen can be used effectively to treat contaminated water and the amount of material needed to effectively destroy all pathogens is dependent on the amount of organic matter found in the water and also on the total amount of bacteria present.In the manner that other dietary vitamin and mineral supplements enhance different body functions, Stabilised Oxygen can act as a supplement to the body's total function by adding oxidation potential. Since its action occurs at a fundamental cellular level, it can assist the body to fight a variety of infectious agents. Research has also determined that it may act as a very effective scavenger of toxic free radicals from environmental sources or those that are normally reproduced within the body itself. S.O. is known to release simple mineral agents that appear to be active against bacteria and fungi as well as a number of viruses.Oxygen deficiency, or oxygen starvation can be the single greatest cause of diseaseOxygen plays a critical role in the proper functioning of the Immune System. It is the source of life and energy to all cells. Bodily abuse through eating and drinking habits including pollutants and toxic preservative in our water and food, air pollution, use of drugs and the lack of exercise can greatly reduce the amount of oxygen available to the cells. When there is insufficient oxygen to support the health of a cell, the cell turns to another source of energy, usually sugar fermentation. This is an undesirable source of energy which upsets the metabolism of the cell. It causes the cell to start manufacturing improper chemicals, and soon a whole group of cells is unhealthy and weak. They lose their natural immune ability, and this opens the doors to the invasion of viruses, for a virus can only develop within a cell. Thus development of a shortage of oxygen in the blood could very well be the starting point for the loss of the immune system and the beginning of feared health problems such as cancer, leukemia, aids, seizures, nerve deterioration, etc. Once the body is in an oxygen depleted state, one may suffer toxic headaches, swollen lymph glands and nodes, and the onset of the dreaded .. osis .. diseases such as arteriosclerosis and multiple sclerosis. Another early warning of immune system failure is Amyotrophic lateral allergies, colds and possible migraine. What compounds these problems in the body is oxygen deprivation and lack of antioxidants such as Vitamin C, E, SOD and Selenium.( It is interesting to note that a recent 15 year study on the effect of Selenium found that the test group of people given the selenium had a up to 60% lesser occurrence of all sorts of cancer, than the control group who were given a placebo) Eating processed foods that are deficient in oxygen and nutrients causes the oxygen to be depleted in the blood stream as the body builds up lactic acid, the acid of fatigue and sore muscles or acidosis. Antioxidants help to restore oxygen as does iron, which is an oxygen transporter, to keep the lactic acid low, these problems can all benefit from using Stabilised Oxygen in water or juice.The use of antibiotics, particularly such broad spectrum ones as tetracycline, provide a short term relief of infection but are countered by a possible long term negative effect. The antibiotics may not be killing the target bacteria, but may be converting them to pleomorphic forms (L forms), which may not only reactive at a later date, but may continue to produce toxins which can lead to a URS condition ( Universal Reactor Syndrome) The conversion of bacteria to such L forms may be providing symptomatic relief, but at the same time setting the stage for a later pathology.The mechanism of Stabilised Oxygen involves the utilisation of chlorite by the cells, particularly leukocytes, as a substrate to increase the efficiency of a group of enzymes known as peroxidases. These enzymes are an important component within the immune system since they are involved in the oxidation of foreign material ( e.g. Viruses).At the Science Research Centre of Abilene. Texas USA in May, 1984, Stabilised Oxygen was tested against five intestinal pathogens: Salmonella, typhl, Viberia cholerae, Campylobacter fetus, ss jejuni and Escherichio coli. All of these micro-organisms are common water born pathogens which cause the majority of acute gastrointestinal illnesses and are responsible for the deaths of a large number of children in many countries where untreated water is used. One study showed that Stabilised Oxygen can be used effectively to treat contaminated water and the amount of material needed to effectively destroy all pathogens is dependent on the amount of organic matter found in the water and also on the total amount of bacteria present.In the manner that other dietary vitamin and mineral supplements enhance different body functions, Stabilised Oxygen can act as a supplement to the body's total function by adding oxidation potential. Since its action occurs at a fundamental cellular level, it can assist the body to fight a variety of infectious agents. Research has also determined that it may act as a very effective scavenger of toxic free radicals from environmental sources or those that are normally reproduced within the body itself. S.O. is known to release simple mineral agents that appear to be active against bacteria and fungi as well as a number of viruses.Oxygen deficiency, or oxygen starvation can be the single greatest cause of diseaseOxygen plays a critical role in the proper functioning of the Immune System. It is the source of life and energy to all cells. Bodily abuse through eating and drinking habits including pollutants and toxic preservative in our water and food, air pollution, use of drugs and the lack of exercise can greatly reduce the amount of oxygen available to the cells. When there is insufficient oxygen to support the health of a cell, the cell turns to another source of energy, usually sugar fermentation. This is an undesirable source of energy which upsets the metabolism of the cell. It causes the cell to start manufacturing improper chemicals, and soon a whole group of cells is unhealthy and weak. They lose their natural immune ability, and this opens the doors to the invasion of viruses, for a virus can only develop within a cell. Thus development of a shortage of oxygen in the blood could very well be the starting point for the loss of the immune system and the beginning of feared health problems such as cancer, leukemia, aids, seizures, nerve deterioration, etc. Once the body is in an oxygen depleted state, one may suffer toxic headaches, swollen lymph glands and nodes, and the onset of the dreaded .. osis .. diseases such as arteriosclerosis and multiple sclerosis. Another early warning of immune system failure is Amyotrophic lateral allergies, colds and possible migraine. What compounds these problems in the body is oxygen deprivation and lack of antioxidants such as Vitamin C, E, SOD and Selenium.( It is interesting to note that a recent 15 year study on the effect of Selenium found that the test group of people given the selenium had a up to 60% lesser occurrence of all sorts of cancer, than the control group who were given a placebo) Eating processed foods that are deficient in oxygen and nutrients causes the oxygen to be depleted in the blood stream as the body builds up lactic acid, the acid of fatigue and sore muscles or acidosis. Antioxidants help to restore oxygen as does iron, which is an oxygen transporter, to keep the lactic acid low, these problems can all benefit from using Stabilised Oxygen in water or juice.The use of antibiotics, particularly such broad spectrum ones as tetracycline, provide a short term relief of infection but are countered by a possible long term negative effect. The antibiotics may not be killing the target bacteria, but may be converting them to pleomorphic forms (L forms), which may not only reactive at a later date, but may continue to produce toxins which can lead to a URS condition ( Universal Reactor Syndrome) The conversion of bacteria to such L forms may be providing symptomatic relief, but at the same time setting the stage for a later pathology.The mechanism of Stabilised Oxygen involves the utilisation of chlorite by the cells, particularly leukocytes, as a substrate to increase the efficiency of a group of enzymes known as peroxidases. These enzymes are an important component within the immune system since they are involved in the oxidation of foreign material (e.g. Viruses).Associated quantifying research on the beneficial effect of Stabilised OxygenExperiments by Dr. J. Berg, of Stanford University support the work of Dr. L.P. Hager, University of Illinois (USA). Namely that the chlorite contained in our Stabilised Oxygen significantly improves the efficiency of the two enzymes, chloroperoxidase and peroxidase, as well as utilizing myeloperoxidas in the leukocytes. There are two interesting outcomes of chlorite utilisation by these enzymes. The first is that the immune system may be directly enhanced by the increased rate of oxidation of foreign material by the leukocytes. The second is an increased ability by all metabolically active cells to scavenge free radicals. According to a report by S. Harakeh Ph.D. of Stanford, the rate of removal of the superoxide radicals by superoxide dismutase (SOD) will be increased as the peroxide removal is enhanced by the chlorite CLO2 . The resultant increased efficiency of the removal of free radicals is interesting in light of the contemporary theories attributing the cause of disease debilitating aspects of aging and onset of cancer to excessive levels of free radicals. The source of free radicals may be environmental or metabolic. Toxic free radicals are harmful free electrons which researchers feel can join with other atoms thus producing mutations which are harmful to the body. Leading researchers also concur on the theory that toxic free radicals may be responsible for a vast range of human ailments.The chlorite, a major constituent of Stabilised Oxygen, and one of its reaction products (Chlorine dioxide) are extremely effective viricides, bactericides, and fungicides. Chlorine dioxide has been shown to be extremely effective against pathogenic agents such as legionella and enteric viruses such as the poliovirus in our laboratory. Its effectiveness against other viruses has also been demonstrated.In 1983 Dr. D. Berg at the Department of Medical Microbiology, at Stanford University School of Medicine, completed several studies on Stabilised Oxygen. Dr. Berg is the holder of two doctorates in medical microbiology and environmental engineering. He had been asked to explore the reasons why Stabilised Oxygen is so successful in treating human and animal disease conditions and in maintaining good health. The scientific literature on other chlorine chemistry is extensive, but studies on the chlorine ion and its role in human biochemistry are limited. Nevertheless, Dr. Berg's conclusions more than adequately support the existing literature.The following passage is by Dr. Berg Ph.D.I shall summarize some potential mechanisms for Stabilised Oxygen as a therapeutic agent. The hypotheses that follow are based on my research with chlorine dioxide and stabilised Oxygen, the research that has been conducted in other laboratories, and the hundreds of testimonials that have been obtained describing the efficacy of Stabilised Oxygen in the treatment of a variety of disorders.The first hypotheses addresses the topical application for the treatment of burns, abrasions and allergic reactions. The other two hypotheses primarily describe potential mechanisms following the ingestion, or when applied topically for the treatment of bacterial and viral infections.When applied topically Stabilised Oxygen may act as an osmotic agent similar to the application of Epsom salts. The concentration of salts in the S.O. even when applied in a 1% solution, is quite high. The ensuing osmotic gradient would be a sufficient driving force for the removal of toxins and allergenic substances from the skin. The same gradient may in a similar way promote healing by increasing the rate of transport of factors involved in healing in the case of abrasions and burns. The aforementioned mechanism may appear simple, nonetheless it may partially explain the promotion of healing and desensitization of burns and rashes that have been documented.Secondly, in either topical or internal use the Stabilised Oxygen can act as a non-specific biocide. The chlorine, a major constituent of Stabilised Oxygen and one of its reaction products, chlorine dioxide, are extremely effective viricides, bactericides and fungicides as demonstrated at our laboratory. At a physiological pH, the predominant chemical species will be chlorine ion. The chlorine is biocidal, yet less effective against pathogens than chlorine dioxide since it is a less powerful oxidant in the ionic form. At the pH of the stomach (pH 3-4) one can expect chlorine dioxide to be produced from the chlorides. This will be a transient phenomenon ultimately yielding chlorine ion again. This will be absorbed by the body, passed through the lower intestinal tract and excreted by the kidneys. If a substantial dose of S.O. has been taken one could hypothesize that the chlorine and chlorine dioxide would act against any pathogenic microorganisms in the body. This may explain the increase in the efficiency of the enzymes known as peroxidases which are a important component in the immune system since they are involved in the oxidation of foreign material such as viruses and toxins. Our experiments with Stabilised Oxygen were modeled after the work of Dr. Lowell P. Hager at the University of Illinois on chlorine and our results support his findings. That Stabilised Oxygen or the chlorine it contains significantly improves the efficiency of the two enzymes chloroperoxidase and peroxidase. The reactions of another model system utilizing myeloperoxidase and peroxidase in the leukocytes is shown to increase the activity of this enzyme.Additionally, Dr. Peoples, Professor of Pharmacology, University of California wrote of the Stabilised Oxygen as follows: I have concluded that as a bactericide and or fungicide, it works primarily on the basis of oxidation, apparently able to supply stimulus to the organism's own physiological response as well as offering oxidative capacity at a cellular level.His report concludes with the following statementWe consider the Stabilised Oxygen where utilised in vivo, combines with the natural body functions and immune responses to become an effective medication with virtually no toxicity or side effects.Return to Oxygen Info Menu> > > >> > > > Tom most scientist disagree with the theory of flora being> > destroyed. In solution sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is very alkaline and> > stable but when acidified it forms the gas chlorine dioxide (ClO2) which> > smells the same as chlorine and probably is the strongest all-round> > antimicrobial and parasite remedy. While it destroys all anaerobic> > microbes and parasites, it does not damage the beneficial lactobacteria> > of our intestinal flora. The only residue left in water, food, or in the> > body after treatment with MMS is a tiny amount of table salt or sodium> > chloride (NaCl).> > > > http://www.health-science-spirit.com/miracle.htm> > > > http://malaria01.org/> > >> >>

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F. Koch, Ph. D., M. D.Official Research PageMaintained by the Koch Familyhttp://www.williamfkoch.com/web/version2/default.phpThe sole purpose of this site is to accurately present Dr. Koch's theories to the scientific community in order to improve the well being of mankind.This site chronicles over fifty years of Dr. Koch's scientific research as he investigated and eventually isolated the most fundamental factor common to all disease. Dr. Koch's epoch making discovery of this Least Common Denominatorled to the `birth of a new science.'Through extensive documentation Dr. Koch outlined the chemical processes by which disease may be reversed. Dr. Koch's research focused on the means to restore the body's oxidation mechanism back to its original vitality, thereby re-equipping the body with its innate ability to restore and maintain health, not only in cancers but also in a host of its `allied diseases.'This research led to Dr. Koch's development of several synthetic antitoxins: Glyoxylide, Malonide and PBQ. These catalysts became the stimulant necessary to achieve the oxidative separation of the `host cell/pathogen integration,' when the pathogen was a virus, a carcinogen, a bacterial toxin or an incompletely burned tissue metabolite. Dr. Koch successfully defined the position of the activated amine group, the free radical, the double bond and the Carbonyl group in pathogenesis and in its correction.Of historic significance is the knowledge that as early as 1919, Dr. Koch's discoveries were taking him in a direction diametrically opposed to the position held by Organized Medicine, which at that time was investing heavily in the development of radium and surgery as the most promising treatments for cancer.After failing in its attempt to gain sole control over his research, Organized Medicine launched a fifty-year, unlimited assault aimed at discrediting Dr. Koch's reputation, medical practice and research, along with those of any physician who dared to validate his Theories or use his Reagents. Organized Medicine developed an extensive propaganda campaign, disseminated false information on Reagent chemistry and publicly dismissed the Koch Theories, which emphasized the relationship between environmental toxins, dietary deficiencies and a depleted oxidation mechanism, as primary initiators of the disease process.Because Dr. Koch endured such extensive persecution in regard to his science, he determined that the medical/pharmacological industry would forever remain unwilling to independently monitor, document or validate any of his ongoing laboratory research or medical case histories; therefore since his death, December 9, 1967, there have been no authentic Koch Reagents reproduced. It was because of the scurrilous intentions held by the medical/pharmacological industry that Dr. Koch intentionally withheld specific knowledge required in the production of viable Koch Reagents. (Therefore, any claims to the contrary should be viewed as suspect.)Last Updated: 13, December 2003 > > > > >> > > > > Tom most scientist disagree with the theory of flora being> > > destroyed. In solution sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is very alkaline and> > > stable but when acidified it forms the gas chlorine dioxide (ClO2)> which> > > smells the same as chlorine and probably is the strongest all-round> > > antimicrobial and parasite remedy. While it destroys all anaerobic> > > microbes and parasites, it does not damage the beneficial> lactobacteria> > > of our intestinal flora. The only residue left in water, food, or in> the> > > body after treatment with MMS is a tiny amount of table salt or> sodium> > > chloride (NaCl).> > > > > http://www.health-science-spirit.com/miracle.htm> > > > > http://malaria01.org/> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Hello Healinghope,

I think we first have to look at organic material in water and see what they are

talking about.

Here is a discussion on organic material in water.

http://www.oup.com/uk/orc/bin/9780199274994/vanloon_ch12.pdf

Carbon based material (organic material in water) is not chlorinated by chlorine

dioxide and in that matter it does not attach itself or react with organic

material. That makes it very selective. It only kills living things and does

not react with the other material in the water forming various disinfecting by

products.

However, from a biological perspective, chlorine dioxide is a very effective

biocide.

Here is a definition of what a biocide is.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/biocide

Now, back to our original discussion... Is flora a living organism?

Tom

--- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...>

wrote:

>

>

> Tom in regards to flora being organic, and concerns of chlorine dioxide

> interfering with organics.

>

> Silva of Sanford, NC, a water treatment professional with 20

> years experience, submitted the following:

>

> http://www.watertechonline.com/article.asp?indexid=6631357

> <http://www.watertechonline.com/article.asp?indexid=6631357>

> 1. No mention was made in the article at all about using chlorine

> dioxide as a combatant forLegionella.

>

> 2. Chlorine dioxide is the most effective biocide available for

> Legionella and biofilm, which needs to be removed for proper

> scale/corrosion/microbiological control in a cooling system.

>

> 3. High doses of chlorine are corrosive to most cooling systems'

> metallurgy and the corrosion products and Legionella have a negative

> synergism. Rule No. 1 for controlling Legionella is to have a clean,

> corrosion product (rust) free system. This should have been mentioned.

>

> 4. Chlorine dioxide has the following attributes:

>

> · It is the most effective biocide against Legionella.

>

> · It is the most effective biocide for the destruction of biofilm.

>

> · It oxidizes and does not chlorinate.

>

> · It is not affected by pH (high or low).

>

> · It does not hydrolyze in water (it remains as a gas).

>

> · It reacts within seconds with oxidizable materials.

>

> · It does not form chloramines.

>

> · It will destroy phenols without creating chlorinated phenols, does

> not form trihalomethanes (THMs), and it does not react with azoles.

>

> · It does not react with ammonia or nitrogen.

>

> · It does not react with organics (see above).

>

> · It has a low corrosivity to metals (much lower than chlorine

> calcium hypo, sodium hypo or gas).

>

> of Aqua Technical Services Inc. in Liverpool, NY, offers the

> following:

>

> · Infectious dose. The infectious dose for many bacterial-induced

> illnesses has never been determined - would you allow yourself to be

> injected with a solution containing one organism? If no, then why

> continue the argument against testing on that false premise?

[Guest guest]

However, from a biological perspective, chlorine dioxide is a very effective

biocide.

Here is a definition of what a biocide is.e?

.......................................

I am not nor have I ever been very IN THE KNOW about science. BUT... I like the

WIKI explanation of a BIOCIDE:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biocide

Biocides can be added to other materials (typically liquids) to protect them

against biological infestation and growth. For example, certain types of

quaternary ammonium compounds (quats) are added to pool water or industrial

water systems to act as an algicide, protecting the water from infestation and

growth of algae. It is often impractical to store and use poisonous chlorine gas

for water treatment, so alternative methods of adding chlorine are used. These

include hypochlorite solutions, which gradually release chlorine into the water,

and compounds like sodium dichloro-s-triazinetrione (dihydrate or anhydrous),

sometimes referred to as " dichlor " , and trichloro-s-triazinetrione, sometimes

referred to as " trichlor " . These compounds are stable while solids and may be

used in powdered, granular, or tablet form. When added in small amounts to pool

water or industrial water systems, the chlorine atoms hydrolyze from the rest of

the molecule forming hypochlorous acid (HOCl) which acts as a general biocide

killing germs, micro-organisms, algae, and so on. Halogenated hydantoin

compounds are also used as biocides.

[Guest guest]

Tom Your question was not asking about flora being a living organism.

Hello Healinghope,

All scientists agree that chlorine dioxide is a biocide. That means that it

kills organic material.

Are you suggesting that flora is not organic material?

Tom

>

>

> Hello Healinghope,

>

> I think we first have to look at organic material in water and see what they

are talking about.

>

> Here is a discussion on organic material in water.

>

> http://www.oup.com/uk/orc/bin/9780199274994/vanloon_ch12.pdf

>

> Carbon based material (organic material in water) is not chlorinated by

chlorine dioxide and in that matter it does not attach itself or react with

organic material. That makes it very selective. It only kills living things

and does not react with the other material in the water forming various

disinfecting by products.

>

> However, from a biological perspective, chlorine dioxide is a very effective

biocide.

>

> Here is a definition of what a biocide is.

>

> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/biocide

>

> Now, back to our original discussion... Is flora a living organism?

>

> Tom

>

>

> --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@>

wrote:

> >

> >

> > Tom in regards to flora being organic, and concerns of chlorine dioxide

> > interfering with organics.

> >

> > Silva of Sanford, NC, a water treatment professional with 20

> > years experience, submitted the following:

> >

> > http://www.watertechonline.com/article.asp?indexid=6631357

> > <http://www.watertechonline.com/article.asp?indexid=6631357>

> > 1. No mention was made in the article at all about using chlorine

> > dioxide as a combatant forLegionella.

> >

> > 2. Chlorine dioxide is the most effective biocide available for

> > Legionella and biofilm, which needs to be removed for proper

> > scale/corrosion/microbiological control in a cooling system.

> >

> > 3. High doses of chlorine are corrosive to most cooling systems'

> > metallurgy and the corrosion products and Legionella have a negative

> > synergism. Rule No. 1 for controlling Legionella is to have a clean,

> > corrosion product (rust) free system. This should have been mentioned.

> >

> > 4. Chlorine dioxide has the following attributes:

> >

> > · It is the most effective biocide against Legionella.

> >

> > · It is the most effective biocide for the destruction of biofilm.

> >

> > · It oxidizes and does not chlorinate.

> >

> > · It is not affected by pH (high or low).

> >

> > · It does not hydrolyze in water (it remains as a gas).

> >

> > · It reacts within seconds with oxidizable materials.

> >

> > · It does not form chloramines.

> >

> > · It will destroy phenols without creating chlorinated phenols, does

> > not form trihalomethanes (THMs), and it does not react with azoles.

> >

> > · It does not react with ammonia or nitrogen.

> >

> > · It does not react with organics (see above).

> >

> > · It has a low corrosivity to metals (much lower than chlorine

> > calcium hypo, sodium hypo or gas).

> >

> > of Aqua Technical Services Inc. in Liverpool, NY, offers the

> > following:

> >

> > · Infectious dose. The infectious dose for many bacterial-induced

> > illnesses has never been determined - would you allow yourself to be

> > injected with a solution containing one organism? If no, then why

> > continue the argument against testing on that false premise?

>