Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Aerobic bacteria are the friendly bacteria - the beneficial bacteria of the soil, the earth, the water, the food and the body. Aerobic bacteria are the normal flora of the body and cannot survive without the presence of oxygen. Anaerobic bacteria are the disease , infectious, putrefying and contamination causing bacteria from the earth, water, food and the body. Anaerobic bacteria cannot survive in the presence of oxygen. However, there are anaerobic bacteria which can live in both aerobic and anaerobic conditions, but they are not disease and infectious bacteria. They could be part of the normal flora of the skin and the bowel. > > > Hello Healinghope, > > I think we first have to look at organic material in water and see what they are talking about. > > Here is a discussion on organic material in water. > > http://www.oup.com/uk/orc/bin/9780199274994/vanloon_ch12.pdf > > Carbon based material (organic material in water) is not chlorinated by chlorine dioxide and in that matter it does not attach itself or react with organic material. That makes it very selective. It only kills living things and does not react with the other material in the water forming various disinfecting by products. > > However, from a biological perspective, chlorine dioxide is a very effective biocide. > > Here is a definition of what a biocide is. > > http://www.thefreedictionary.com/biocide > > Now, back to our original discussion... Is flora a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 This can be understood by doing an experiment to identify them by growing aerobic and anaerobic bacteria in a liquid culture. Aerobic bacteria will gather on top to inhale most of the oxygen in order to survive, whereas anaerobic bacteria will rather collect on the bottom to avoid the oxygen. Almost all animals and humans are obligate aerobes that require oxygen for respiration, whereas anaerobic yeast is an example of facultative anaerobe bacteria. Individual human cells are also facultative anaerobes: They switch to lactic acid fermentation if oxygen is not available. http://www.differencebetween.net/science/difference-between-aerobic-and-anaerobi\ c-bacteria/ Summary: 1. Aerobic bacteria inhales oxygen to remain alive. 2. Anaerobic bacteria dies in the presence of oxygen, and therefore avoids O2. 3. Aerobic respiration produces energy with the help of a complex process in the cells. 4. Anaerobic respiration produces crystals, and causes pain in muscled areas. 5. Humans and animals, and most fungi, etc are all obligate aerobes that need to breathe and inhale oxygen to survive. Read more: Difference Between Aerobic and Anaerobic Bacteria | Difference Between | Aerobic vs Anaerobic Bacteria http://www.differencebetween.net/science/difference-between-aerobic-and-anaerobi\ c-bacteria/#ixzz1FGBVQ41G > > > > > > Hello Healinghope, > > > > I think we first have to look at organic material in water and see what they are talking about. > > > > Here is a discussion on organic material in water. > > > > http://www.oup.com/uk/orc/bin/9780199274994/vanloon_ch12.pdf > > > > Carbon based material (organic material in water) is not chlorinated by chlorine dioxide and in that matter it does not attach itself or react with organic material. That makes it very selective. It only kills living things and does not react with the other material in the water forming various disinfecting by products. > > > > However, from a biological perspective, chlorine dioxide is a very effective biocide. > > > > Here is a definition of what a biocide is. > > > > http://www.thefreedictionary.com/biocide > > > > Now, back to our original discussion... Is flora a > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Hello Healinghope, And I will point out that a biocide will kill both aerobic and anaerobic bacteria... Tom --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote: > > This can be understood by doing an experiment to identify them by growing aerobic and anaerobic bacteria in a liquid culture. Aerobic bacteria will gather on top to inhale most of the oxygen in order to survive, whereas anaerobic bacteria will rather collect on the bottom to avoid the oxygen. > > Almost all animals and humans are obligate aerobes that require oxygen for respiration, whereas anaerobic yeast is an example of facultative anaerobe bacteria. Individual human cells are also facultative anaerobes: They switch to lactic acid fermentation if oxygen is not available. > http://www.differencebetween.net/science/difference-between-aerobic-and-anaerobi\ c-bacteria/ > Summary: > > 1. Aerobic bacteria inhales oxygen to remain alive. > 2. Anaerobic bacteria dies in the presence of oxygen, and therefore avoids O2. > 3. Aerobic respiration produces energy with the help of a complex process in the cells. > 4. Anaerobic respiration produces crystals, and causes pain in muscled areas. > 5. Humans and animals, and most fungi, etc are all obligate aerobes that need to breathe and inhale oxygen to survive. > > > > Read more: Difference Between Aerobic and Anaerobic Bacteria | Difference Between | Aerobic vs Anaerobic Bacteria http://www.differencebetween.net/science/difference-between-aerobic-and-anaerobi\ c-bacteria/#ixzz1FGBVQ41G > --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@> wrote: > > > > Aerobic bacteria are the friendly bacteria - the beneficial bacteria of the soil, the earth, the water, the food and the body. Aerobic bacteria are the normal flora of the body and cannot survive without the presence of oxygen. > > > > Anaerobic bacteria are the disease , infectious, putrefying and contamination causing bacteria from the earth, water, food and the body. Anaerobic bacteria cannot survive in the presence of oxygen. However, there are anaerobic bacteria which can live in both aerobic and anaerobic conditions, but they are not disease and infectious bacteria. They could be part of the normal flora of the skin and the bowel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Tom That is the wonder of chlorine dioxide it is a oxidizing biocide. Of the oxidizing biocides, chlorine dioxide is the most selective oxidant. Both ozone and chlorine are much more reactive than chlorine dioxide, and they will be consumed by most organic compounds. Chlorine dioxide however, reacts only with reduced sulphur compounds, secondary and tertiary amines, and some other highly reduced and reactive organics. This allows much lower dosages of chlorine dioxide to achieve a more stable residual than either chlorine or ozone. Chlorine dioxide, generated properly (all chlorine dioxide is not created equal), can be effectively used in much higher organic loading than either ozone or chlorine because of its selectivity. Read more: http://www.lenntech.com/library/clo2/chlorine-dioxide.htm#ixzz1FGrgm27P > > > Hello Healinghope, > > And I will point out that a biocide will kill both aerobic and anaerobic bacteria... > > Tom > > > --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@> wrote: > > > > This can be understood by doing an experiment to identify them by growing aerobic and anaerobic bacteria in a liquid culture. Aerobic bacteria will gather on top to inhale most of the oxygen in order to survive, whereas anaerobic bacteria will rather collect on the bottom to avoid the oxygen. > > > > Almost all animals and humans are obligate aerobes that require oxygen for respiration, whereas anaerobic yeast is an example of facultative anaerobe bacteria. Individual human cells are also facultative anaerobes: They switch to lactic acid fermentation if oxygen is not available. > > http://www.differencebetween.net/science/difference-between-aerobic-and-anaerobi\ c-bacteria/ > > Summary: > > > > 1. Aerobic bacteria inhales oxygen to remain alive. > > 2. Anaerobic bacteria dies in the presence of oxygen, and therefore avoids O2. > > 3. Aerobic respiration produces energy with the help of a complex process in the cells. > > 4. Anaerobic respiration produces crystals, and causes pain in muscled areas. > > 5. Humans and animals, and most fungi, etc are all obligate aerobes that need to breathe and inhale oxygen to survive. > > > > > > > > Read more: Difference Between Aerobic and Anaerobic Bacteria | Difference Between | Aerobic vs Anaerobic Bacteria http://www.differencebetween.net/science/difference-between-aerobic-and-anaerobi\ c-bacteria/#ixzz1FGBVQ41G > > --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@> wrote: > > > > > > Aerobic bacteria are the friendly bacteria - the beneficial bacteria of the soil, the earth, the water, the food and the body. Aerobic bacteria are the normal flora of the body and cannot survive without the presence of oxygen. > > > > > > Anaerobic bacteria are the disease , infectious, putrefying and contamination causing bacteria from the earth, water, food and the body. Anaerobic bacteria cannot survive in the presence of oxygen. However, there are anaerobic bacteria which can live in both aerobic and anaerobic conditions, but they are not disease and infectious bacteria. They could be part of the normal flora of the skin and the bowel. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Hello Debbie, Keep in mind that industrial cooling systems differ from the human body in that the body's cooling system is designed to support and sustain life. The industrial cooling system is not. Tom > > > > However, from a biological perspective, chlorine dioxide is a very effective biocide. > > Here is a definition of what a biocide is.e? > > ...................................... > I am not nor have I ever been very IN THE KNOW about science. BUT... I like the WIKI explanation of a BIOCIDE: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biocide > > Biocides can be added to other materials (typically liquids) to protect them against biological infestation and growth. For example, certain types of quaternary ammonium compounds (quats) are added to pool water or industrial water systems to act as an algicide, protecting the water from infestation and growth of algae. It is often impractical to store and use poisonous chlorine gas for water treatment, so alternative methods of adding chlorine are used. These include hypochlorite solutions, which gradually release chlorine into the water, and compounds like sodium dichloro-s-triazinetrione (dihydrate or anhydrous), sometimes referred to as " dichlor " , and trichloro-s-triazinetrione, sometimes referred to as " trichlor " . These compounds are stable while solids and may be used in powdered, granular, or tablet form. When added in small amounts to pool water or industrial water systems, the chlorine atoms hydrolyze from the rest of the molecule forming hypochlorous acid (HOCl) which acts as a general biocide killing germs, micro-organisms, algae, and so on. Halogenated hydantoin compounds are also used as biocides. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Hello Healinghope, Yes, chlorine dioxide only goes after and kills the living organisms in the water. Since it doesn't react with the other materials, you can get by using less. Keep in mind that Lenntech is discussing using chlorine dioxide in water which is different from the chlorous acid that mixing up a dose of MMS produces. Lenntech offers chlorine dioxide generators that take sodium chlorite and an acid and produce chlorine dioxide gas which is then injected into the water that you are trying to disinfect. This process does not change the PH of the water. In contrast, simply mixing an acid with sodium chlorite produces chlorous acid with a PH of about 3. These are two different technologies that are used in industry for different things. Tom --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote: > > Tom That is the wonder of chlorine dioxide it is a oxidizing biocide. > Of the oxidizing biocides, chlorine dioxide is the most selective oxidant. Both ozone and chlorine are much more reactive than chlorine dioxide, and they will be consumed by most organic compounds. Chlorine dioxide however, reacts only with reduced sulphur compounds, secondary and tertiary amines, and some other highly reduced and reactive organics. This allows much lower dosages of chlorine dioxide to achieve a more stable residual than either chlorine or ozone. Chlorine dioxide, generated properly (all chlorine dioxide is not created equal), can be effectively used in much higher organic loading than either ozone or chlorine because of its selectivity. > > > > > > Read more: http://www.lenntech.com/library/clo2/chlorine-dioxide.htm#ixzz1FGrgm27P > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 I have been on xolair for 11months, but my ? Is not about xolair. I assume a lot of us on this group have breathing issues. I have been on nighttime oxygen for a year. I am flying for the 1st time since oxygen on the 14th. I have been making calls to get the right forms filled out for flying and transporting a portable concentrator. Well my doctor called today and wants me to do a altitude stimulation test at the hospital tomorrow?? Any ideas what I got myself into now? Any responses would be appreciated. Tricia Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 well Cookie, I can't help you, but unfortunately join you. A few inches down frommy right elbow, I have a nodule about the size of a pea. For awhile, it was getting smaller and softer, but now maintains the pea size and definately feel the bone (or whatever a nodule is??) I read that with Ra, about 20% people will get them. So maybe after awhile on AP, these will go away?? It is sad and scarey watching the body change....bones in leg have buckled? and I look like I'm knock kneed and other bones don't look or feel right. Can they untwist? Humbling, isn't it..................sally rheumatic question Hi Everyone, I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in BUT.. I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger. I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda freaked out. Thank you. cooky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 also, my node was painful for some time, now it's not...so some good news for the day! sally rheumatic question Hi Everyone, I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in BUT.. I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger. I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda freaked out. Thank you. cooky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Sally, how long have you had this? Mine is still painful if I push on it even a little but last week I could not even let a blanket cross over it. Yes I read they are sort of rare. I hope it will go away soon…better yet I hope I don’t I get anymore. As for your bones. I’m not sure if they will straighten out. I want to say yes because I have had fingers straighten and toes that did not. Now I am having some (ankle knuckles and toes) that I don’t think are going to get better. Humbling? NO just determined J)) Are you noticing anything since your IV’s? Hugs cooky From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of mannasal@... Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 4:46 PM rheumatic Subject: Re: rheumatic question well Cookie, I can't help you, but unfortunately join you. A few inches down frommy right elbow, I have a nodule about the size of a pea. For awhile, it was getting smaller and softer, but now maintains the pea size and definately feel the bone (or whatever a nodule is??) I read that with Ra, about 20% people will get them. So maybe after awhile on AP, these will go away?? It is sad and scarey watching the body change....bones in leg have buckled? and I look like I'm knock kneed and other bones don't look or feel right. Can they untwist? Humbling, isn't it..................sally rheumatic question Hi Everyone, I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in BUT.. I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger. I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda freaked out. Thank you. cooky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Hi Sue, From experience with those RA cysts (in my case from RA), I've had one rather large one removed from my elbow a few yrs ago and one on the base of my big toe. Neither hurt expect the one on the toe had pressure from any shoes I wore, so I guess you could say it did hurt in that way. I was so happy to have them removed and GONE! One less sign of the RA. Now I've got a couple on the inside of two fingers, not noticeable at all, except I will have them removed soon for " me " . I guess it just depends on how much they annoy you, etc. Again, this just shows how each one of us is different and you need to go with how you feel about it. just my story Judy In a message dated 3/17/2011 7:52:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, semrick@... writes: I have two large synovial cysts on my wrists, they don't hurt but look awful...not that I really care but you know my kids are at that age where they get embarrassed easily. I feel bad I'm their mother and I'm hunched over, hobbling and my hands are a mess....I think people think I'm their grandmother not mother. Anywho that's beside the point, I'm just wondering if those go away on their own? My rheumy wants me to have surgery and I just don't want to go there. Thanks, Sue ---- Eva Holloway <_holloway-eva@..._ (mailto:holloway-eva@...) > wrote: > Sally, Cooky > > since my RA and Dermatomyositis is going slowly into remission I notice that my " dragon ridges " on my arms have decreases in size. I used to have a real big one on the back of my elbow, that also has shrunk . The nodules were the first one to appear about 7 years ago, but I wasn't sick then and they thought it was some kind of allergy, If I had only known then that it was RA and I could get into remission with antibiotic I would have started then. > I am using Cal-Mag with Boron. Boron is supposed to help with Magnesium to get into the bones. > Eva > > > > From: Cooky Stonkey <_cookee1@..._ (mailto:cookee1@...) > > Subject: RE: rheumatic question > _rheumatic _ (mailto:rheumatic ) > Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 4:05 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sally, how long have you had this? Mine is still painful if I push on it even a little but last week I could not even let a blanket cross over it. Yes I read they are sort of rare. I hope it will go away soon…better yet I hope I don’t I get anymore. > > > > As for your bones. I’m not sure if they will straighten out. I want to say yes because I have had fingers straighten and toes that did not. Now I am having some (ankle knuckles and toes) that I don’t think are going to get better. Humbling? NO just determined J)) > > > > Are you noticing anything since your IV’s? > > > > Hugs > > > > cooky > > > > From: _rheumatic _ (mailto:rheumatic ) [mailto:_rheumatic _ (mailto:rheumatic ) ] On Behalf Of _mannasal@..._ (mailto:mannasal@...) > > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 4:46 PM > > _rheumatic _ (mailto:rheumatic ) > > Subject: Re: rheumatic question > > > > well Cookie, I can't help you, but unfortunately join you. A few inches down frommy right elbow, I have a nodule about the size of a pea. For awhile, it was getting smaller and softer, but now maintains the pea size and definately feel the bone (or whatever a nodule is??) I read that with Ra, about 20% people will get them. So maybe after awhile on AP, these will go away?? It is sad and scarey watching the body change....bones in leg have buckled? and I look like I'm knock kneed and other bones don't look or feel right. Can they untwist? > > Humbling, isn't it..................sally > > > > rheumatic question > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in > > BUT.. > > > > I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little > > joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place > > where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big > > one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away > > gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger. > > > > I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node > > and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda > > freaked out. > > > > Thank you. > > > > cooky > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > = > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 I have cysts on both my wrist also....wasn't sure what they were. Also wonder if they go away on there own. For only 4 1/2 yrs RA, it seems quite aggressive. It must be difficult to be raising children with these diseases.....and it seems most of you have a good sense of humor. If it wasn't so sad, it is quite funny! Gads, all I had was 1 plant to take care of, but gave it to a friend because it was too much for me! 2 (of 4) sisters coming to visit tomorrow.....well we do visit, but they mainly do house/yard chores for me. A Blessing indeed, sally rheumatic question > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in > > BUT.. > > > > I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little > > joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place > > where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big > > one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away > > gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger. > > > > I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node > > and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda > > freaked out. > > > > Thank you. > > > > cooky > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Sue, why rhemy wants surgery on cysts? Are they/could be dangerous? sally rheumatic question > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in > > BUT.. > > > > I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little > > joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place > > where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big > > one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away > > gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger. > > > > I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node > > and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda > > freaked out. > > > > Thank you. > > > > cooky > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 I agree with you Judy " one less sign of RA GONE " I had even thought (my toes have buckled) maybe they could break my toes to straighten out? My lst operation from all this will be hip replacement. Maybe they could do it all then....break the toes, remove the cysts, etc etc ..... " cosmetic surgery package for RA " sally rheumatic question > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in > > BUT.. > > > > I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little > > joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place > > where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big > > one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away > > gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger. > > > > I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node > > and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda > > freaked out. > > > > Thank you. > > > > cooky > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Judy...any idea why we get these cysts? sally rheumatic question > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in > > BUT.. > > > > I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little > > joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place > > where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big > > one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away > > gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger. > > > > I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node > > and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda > > freaked out. > > > > Thank you. > > > > cooky > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 He says, and it doesn't make sense to me, that where these cysts are they are rubbing against my tendons and my tendons could rupture and then I'd have a real problem.....lol like I don't have enough problems with damn RA anyway!! ---- mannasal@... wrote: > Sue, why rhemy wants surgery on cysts? Are they/could be dangerous? sally > > > > > > rheumatic question > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > > > > > I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in > > > > BUT.. > > > > > > > > I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little > > > > joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place > > > > where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big > > > > one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away > > > > gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger. > > > > > > > > I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node > > > > and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda > > > > freaked out. > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > cooky > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 It is hard indeed!!! Oh I wish I had sisters to help me! Enjoy. Sue ---- mannasal@... wrote: > I have cysts on both my wrist also....wasn't sure what they were. Also wonder if they go away on there own. For only 4 1/2 yrs RA, it seems quite aggressive. It must be difficult to be raising children with these diseases.....and it seems most of you have a good sense of humor. If it wasn't so sad, it is quite funny! Gads, all I had was 1 plant to take care of, but gave it to a friend because it was too much for me! 2 (of 4) sisters coming to visit tomorrow.....well we do visit, but they mainly do house/yard chores for me. A Blessing indeed, sally > > > > > > rheumatic question > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > > > > > I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in > > > > BUT.. > > > > > > > > I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little > > > > joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place > > > > where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big > > > > one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away > > > > gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger. > > > > > > > > I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node > > > > and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda > > > > freaked out. > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > cooky > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Sally, I've never gotten that far into it with the doctor. It's all part of the RA and some people are more prone than others. I'm sure there's scientific data out there, but all these yrs and checking everything out, I haven't really touched that one. Judy In a message dated 3/17/2011 8:35:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mannasal@... writes: Judy...any idea why we get these cysts? sally -----Original Message----- From: _Judkeels@..._ (mailto:Judkeels@...) _rheumatic _ (mailto:rheumatic ) Sent: Thu, Mar 17, 2011 6:57 pm Subject: Re: rheumatic question Hi Sue, From experience with those RA cysts (in my case from RA), I've had one rather large one removed from my elbow a few yrs ago and one on the base of my big toe. Neither hurt expect the one on the toe had pressure from any shoes I wore, so I guess you could say it did hurt in that way. I was so happy to have them removed and GONE! One less sign of the RA. Now I've got a couple on the inside of two fingers, not noticeable at all, except I will have them removed soon for " me " . I guess it just depends on how much they annoy you, etc. Again, this just shows how each one of us is different and you need to go with how you feel about it. just my story Judy In a message dated 3/17/2011 7:52:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _semrick@..._ (mailto:semrick@...) writes: I have two large synovial cysts on my wrists, they don't hurt but look awful...not that I really care but you know my kids are at that age where they get embarrassed easily. I feel bad I'm their mother and I'm hunched over, hobbling and my hands are a mess....I think people think I'm their grandmother not mother. Anywho that's beside the point, I'm just wondering if those go away on their own? My rheumy wants me to have surgery and I just don't want to go there. Thanks, Sue ---- Eva Holloway <__holloway-eva@..._ (mailto:_holloway-eva@...) _ (mailto:_holloway-eva@..._ (mailto:holloway-eva@...) ) > wrote: > Sally, Cooky > > since my RA and Dermatomyositis is going slowly into remission I notice that my " dragon ridges " on my arms have decreases in size. I used to have a real big one on the back of my elbow, that also has shrunk . The nodules were the first one to appear about 7 years ago, but I wasn't sick then and they thought it was some kind of allergy, If I had only known then that it was RA and I could get into remission with antibiotic I would have started then. > I am using Cal-Mag with Boron. Boron is supposed to help with Magnesium to get into the bones. > Eva > > > > From: Cooky Stonkey <__cookee1@..._ (mailto:_cookee1@...) _ (mailto:_cookee1@..._ (mailto:cookee1@...) ) > > Subject: RE: rheumatic question > __rheumatic _ (mailto:_rheumatic ) _ (mailto:_rheumatic _ (mailto:rheumatic ) ) > Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 4:05 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sally, how long have you had this? Mine is still painful if I push on it even a little but last week I could not even let a blanket cross over it. Yes I read they are sort of rare. I hope it will go away soon…better yet I hope I don’t I get anymore. > > > > As for your bones. I’m not sure if they will straighten out. I want to say yes because I have had fingers straighten and toes that did not. Now I am having some (ankle knuckles and toes) that I don’t think are going to get better. Humbling? NO just determined J)) > > > > Are you noticing anything since your IV’s? > > > > Hugs > > > > cooky > > > > From: __rheumatic _ (mailto:_rheumatic ) _ (mailto:_rheumatic _ (mailto:rheumatic ) ) [mailto:__rheumatic _ (mailto:_rheumatic ) _ (mailto:_rheumatic _ (mailto:rheumatic ) ) ] On Behalf Of __mannasal@..._ (mailto:_mannasal@...) _ (mailto:_mannasal@..._ (mailto:mannasal@...) ) > > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 4:46 PM > > __rheumatic _ (mailto:_rheumatic ) _ (mailto:_rheumatic _ (mailto:rheumatic ) ) > > Subject: Re: rheumatic question > > > > well Cookie, I can't help you, but unfortunately join you. A few inches down frommy right elbow, I have a nodule about the size of a pea. For awhile, it was getting smaller and softer, but now maintains the pea size and definately feel the bone (or whatever a nodule is??) I read that with Ra, about 20% people will get them. So maybe after awhile on AP, these will go away?? It is sad and scarey watching the body change....bones in leg have buckled? and I look like I'm knock kneed and other bones don't look or feel right. Can they untwist? > > Humbling, isn't it..................sally > > > > rheumatic question > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in > > BUT.. > > > > I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little > > joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place > > where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big > > one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away > > gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger. > > > > I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node > > and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda > > freaked out. > > > > Thank you. > > > > cooky > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > = > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Hi Cookie, the nodule below my elbow was very painful when I would put any weight on it (my arm) Lately, I notice it is not painful, but don't know how long it's been without pain. Mine came way after I had RA. It is now 2 weeks from my 5 day IV. I perhaps feel a little better, but nothing dramatic. My hands, wrists, left foot and knee are pretty bad. And then a lot of my focus is on my right hip that is real painful. The home care who did the IV's said the people they work with here doing same thing, they now are on a maintenance of 900units every other week. I don't know what to do, if anything.....any feedback from those who have done 5 days IVs? sally rheumatic question Hi Everyone, I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in BUT.. I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger. I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda freaked out. Thank you. cooky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Sally I did 5 days many times in the past. After each 5 day treatment( I did 5 days after 10 weeks of once a week) I would see a disappearance of a symptomatic joint or something would feel better. I did not do anything different. That was in 97. This time I am seeing nothing really getting better. I do not have major pain in my rotator cuffs but I still not dare stretch too far. My fingers and hands are OK but if I use them too much they will hurt…not like this past summer. Hands are still swollen. I feel really bad that you did not have an “OHmy goodness no pain in-----â€. I am hoping that you feel a lot better soon. Has any swelling gone? Hugs cooky From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of mannasal@... Hi Cookie, the nodule below my elbow was very painful when I would put any weight on it (my arm) Lately, I notice it is not painful, but don't know how long it's been without pain. Mine came way after I had RA. It is now 2 weeks from my 5 day IV. I perhaps feel a little better, but nothing dramatic. My hands, wrists, left foot and knee are pretty bad. And then a lot of my focus is on my right hip that is real painful. The home care who did the IV's said the people they work with here doing same thing, they now are on a maintenance of 900units every other week. I don't know what to do, if anything.....any feedback from those who have done 5 days IVs? sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 I found that Blue-Emu helps a lot with the pain, a little of it goes a long way. I ordered the last time from amazon.com. Try it and see if it helps. My husband fell against a door and hurt his arm real bad, after surgery when he had to do PT he used the Blue-Emu before he went to the PT. Eva From: Cooky Stonkey <cookee1@...> Subject: RE: rheumatic question rheumatic Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 3:24 PM  Sally I did 5 days many times in the past. After each 5 day treatment( I did 5 days after 10 weeks of once a week) I would see a disappearance of a symptomatic joint or something would feel better. I did not do anything different. That was in 97. This time I am seeing nothing really getting better. I do not have major pain in my rotator cuffs but I still not dare stretch too far. My fingers and hands are OK but if I use them too much they will hurt…not like this past summer. Hands are still swollen. I feel really bad that you did not have an “OHmy goodness no pain in-----â€. I am hoping that you feel a lot better soon. Has any swelling gone? Hugs cooky From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of mannasal@... Hi Cookie, the nodule below my elbow was very painful when I would put any weight on it (my arm) Lately, I notice it is not painful, but don't know how long it's been without pain. Mine came way after I had RA. It is now 2 weeks from my 5 day IV. I perhaps feel a little better, but nothing dramatic. My hands, wrists, left foot and knee are pretty bad. And then a lot of my focus is on my right hip that is real painful. The home care who did the IV's said the people they work with here doing same thing, they now are on a maintenance of 900units every other week. I don't know what to do, if anything.....any feedback from those who have done 5 days IVs? sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Thanks Eva…does it smell? From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of Eva Holloway I found that Blue-Emu helps a lot with the pain, a little of it goes a long way. I ordered the last time from amazon.com. Try it and see if it helps. My husband fell against a door and hurt his arm real bad, after surgery when he had to do PT he used the Blue-Emu before he went to the PT. Eva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 no just a very light scent but goes away in a few minutes. Eva From: Cooky Stonkey <cookee1@...> Subject: RE: rheumatic question rheumatic Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 4:37 PM  Thanks Eva…does it smell? From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of Eva Holloway I found that Blue-Emu helps a lot with the pain, a little of it goes a long way. I ordered the last time from amazon.com. Try it and see if it helps. My husband fell against a door and hurt his arm real bad, after surgery when he had to do PT he used the Blue-Emu before he went to the PT. Eva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Hi Cooky: I've had RA since April 2007.  At first I had 3-4 nodules along the underside of one arm (from elbow to wrist). I looked this up on Web MD and learned they are a sign that one does have RA and are indicative of inflammation.  The nodules were hard and slighly painful to the touch. However, they did eventually go away. Once in a while I can feel one on my elbows but it only lasts a day or two. Diane ________________________________ From: Cooky Stonkey <cookee1@...> rheumatic <rheumatic > Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 4:24:11 PM Subject: rheumatic question  Hi Everyone, I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in BUT.. I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger. I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda freaked out. Thank you. cooky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Hello Diane, are you in remission with RA? Taking AP? best of health to you, sally rheumatic question Hi Everyone, I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in BUT.. I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger. I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda freaked out. Thank you. cooky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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