Re: (was 2 diets under 500 calories)

September 14, 2011

Duncan,

Thank you for proving my point. However your subject heading is not correct.

Only one of the 2 diets was under 500 calories and it was not the ketogenic

diet. The ketogenic diet was the one with restricted carbs but no limit on

calories. The one that restricted calories to 500 was called the low-glycemic

diet. At least according to reference below. Reading comprehension Duncan?

Dee

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> > > > > > Also, I don't understand why you are now against ketosis when

earlier

> > > > > > on you were touting it's benefits for altzheimers.

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> > > > > More comprehension issues? Nowhere in the above did Duncan say he was

> > > > > 'against ketosis'.

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> > > > > sheesh

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September 14, 2011

Dee,

The ketogenic diet is indeed a very low calorie " starvation diet " often used on

children with uncontrollable epilepsy. It is not the same as the Atkins diet as

the ketogenic diet is calorie restricted and Atkins is not.

They do use the same foods but the purpose is not the same. The ketogenic diet

adds MCT oil as an important part of the diet. Atkins never cared about the

type of fats all that much. The ketogenic diet is carefully measured ratio of

fats and proteins and carbs. Atkins isn't, just low carb.

While on the Atkins diet, you may indeed through off ketones, but not every one

does, and even those that don't can still lose weight.

On Atkins you increase your carbs, on the ketogenic diet, it stays the same

throughout the 1 to 3 years you are on it.

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From: Dolores <dgk@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Wed, September 14, 2011 5:52:23 PM

Subject: Re: (was 2 diets under 500 calories)

Duncan,

Thank you for proving my point. However your subject heading is not correct.

Only one of the 2 diets was under 500 calories and it was not the ketogenic

diet. The ketogenic diet was the one with restricted carbs but no limit on

calories. The one that restricted calories to 500 was called the low-glycemic

diet. At least according to reference below. Reading comprehension Duncan?

Dee

> > > > >

> > > > > > Also, I don't understand why you are now against ketosis when

>earlier

> > > > > > on you were touting it's benefits for altzheimers.

> > > > >

> > > > > More comprehension issues? Nowhere in the above did Duncan say he was

> > > > > 'against ketosis'.

> > > > >

> > > > > sheesh

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

September 14, 2011

, you are simply referencing a very SPECIFIC ketogenic diet. There are MANY

versions and Atkins is one of them. It is one of the original ketogenic diets as

that is how it worked because it put the body in ketosis. There is just no ONE

ketogenic diet and 500 calories is not necessary in order to be in ketosis. I

think I know about this as I have tried a few - always with success. And you can

call it anything you want - as long as you are in ketosis it will work and can

be called a ketogenic diet. And please note that I did not promote the Atkins

diet. You are right that he never cared about the type of fats and I think that

coconut oil is best - though also incorporating some butter and VOO is also

healthy. If you want to add MCT oil go right ahead.

So , how are YOU doing? Are you in ketosis? Have you tested your urine with

the Ketostrips? Btw, Adkins advised that.

Dee

>

> Dee,

>

> The ketogenic diet is indeed a very low calorie " starvation diet " often used

on

> children with uncontrollable epilepsy. It is not the same as the Atkins diet

as

> the ketogenic diet is calorie restricted and Atkins is not.

>

> They do use the same foods but the purpose is not the same. The ketogenic

diet

> adds MCT oil as an important part of the diet. Atkins never cared about the

> type of fats all that much. The ketogenic diet is carefully measured ratio of

> fats and proteins and carbs. Atkins isn't, just low carb.

>

> While on the Atkins diet, you may indeed through off ketones, but not every

one

> does, and even those that don't can still lose weight.

>

> On Atkins you increase your carbs, on the ketogenic diet, it stays the same

> throughout the 1 to 3 years you are on it.

>

September 14, 2011

I am not on Atkins, it has never worked for me and I never went into ketosis on

it. The longest I stayed on it was 3 months with only 10lb weight loss.

I am using the MCT oil for brain food only. Only taking 1 or 2 tablespoons a

day.

Atkins is better known as a low carb diet, not a ketogenic diet. That is what

is causing the confusion here. There are a number of low carb diet, but

strickly speaking, only one ketogenic diet.

C.

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From: Dolores <dgk@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Wed, September 14, 2011 7:12:10 PM