Coconut oil

[Guest guest]

I fair well with coconut oil because i first concentrated on improving my

toxined LIVER health - via Whey protein isolate.

Regards

CS

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kdrbrill wrote:

> That's great that it's helping you. Didn't work for me -- gave me

> heart palpitations big

> time, also leg cramps. It's just another one of those things that

> will work for one person,

> depending on their body type, their type of CFIDS or fibro, etc..

I'm glad I'm not the only one who can't use coconut oil!

I didn't have palpitations, but it made me very queasy and bloated, plus

generally flu-like. The reaction was too swift to be a detox/herx

thing, I think (came on in 30-45 minutes).

--

el (andreafrankel at sbcglobal dot net)

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I do well on coconut oil and recommend it. I improved my liver with

milk thistle, raw beets and dandelion.

mjh

>

> I fair well with coconut oil because i first concentrated on

improving my

> toxined LIVER health - via Whey protein isolate.

>

> Regards

> CS

>

>

>

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On Dec 19, 2005, at 11:15 PM, bhammanuk@... wrote:

> I fair well with coconut oil because i first concentrated on

> improving my

> toxined LIVER health - via Whey protein isolate.

Hmm. Good point. As I said recently, I've been on NAC for five years,

and also get regular glutathione injections (twice a week now). My

liver is in pretty good shape.

If CS' guess is right, this may have had something to do with my

tolerating it well.

I have ratcheted down on the quantity, though. The first week, it was

like I couldn't get enough COil, and was doing about 2t a day. Then,

it was clear I was getting too much. Now I'm just cooking with it

every day or two, and it seems to be all I need.

Sara

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Hi and other coconut oil lovers, ;-)

If your local obtained coconut oil is cold pressed

and not chemical or thermally processed,

it might be useful.

I don't have experience with taking or buying coconut oil;

but a know a guy, Singfield, from a different list ( about biofuels

etc not medical stuff ),

he is an old Canadian engineer living now already 16 years in the paradise

of Central America, Belize.

He went their to study " anthropological medicines "

and has become a local medicinman using old Mayan medicines.

He is now locally know as snakeman. ;-)

http://turneffecoconut.com/intro.html

Among other things he makes Coconut oil and sells it .

May be you'll like to take a look at his web site:

http://turneffecoconut.com/

and to his pages about making his coconut oil.

http://turneffecoconut.com/making.html

How We Make Virgin coconut oil in Xaibe Village, Belize, Central

America

NFI, grts

Bruno M.

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> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 05:52:21 -0500

> From: yellerdog <yellerdog@...>

>Subject: Re: Coconut Oil

>

>New to this list. Desperately trying to find some relief for pain and

>exhaustion. My first doctor appt. is Jan 3 with Kaplan in CT. He is

>the only Dr. who acknowledges FM and CFS exist.

>

>I'd like to try some of the ideas mentioned. Can I buy the coconut oil that

> " works " at my local natural foods store?

>

>

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Depending on what grade of coconut oil you get, it's actually a good healthy

food. I have a source where I get real good CCN from, and it's quite tasty.

As far as substituting, I'm not sure if the difference in cost is what you

want. I think AO is much more expensive than the CCN.

G.

" *~*~Ms. Dolce~*~* " <distinctivelez@...> wrote: Is Coconut oil only

good for soaps? I would like to substitute my Avocado oil with the Coconut in

my lotions. Think it will work good? Any thoughts would be great!

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>

> Is Coconut oil only good for soaps? I would like to substitute my

> Avocado oil with the Coconut in my lotions. Think it will work good?

> Any thoughts would be great!

>

Personally, I would stick with the avocado oil. Fractionated coconut

oil would work, but avocado is just....well....it's just BETTER

somehow. Better for the skin.

Just my opinion,

Amy

All-natural, handmade luxury soaps,

and the ebook, _Making Soap In Your Own Kitchen_,

a beginner's guide to soapmaking.

www.soapcrone.com/ebook.php

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Coconut oil is very good in lotions. I use it with other butters to make a

body butter.

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Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:27 PM

Subject: Coconut Oil

Is Coconut oil only good for soaps? I would like to substitute my

Avocado oil with the Coconut in my lotions. Think it will work good?

Any thoughts would be great!

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In a message dated 13/03/2006 12:17:43 GMT Standard Time,

atesmom@... writes:

Coconut oil is very good in lotions. I use it with other butters to make a

body butter.

Does it get very greasy?? I hsve coconut oil and i have cocoa butter, shea

butter, bu tno idea what to do with them lol.

Chrisxx

[Guest guest]

Thanks Groovy!

In , " groovygrrl " <groovy_ahk@...>

wrote:

>

>

> >

> > Is Coconut oil only good for soaps? I would like to substitute

my

> > Avocado oil with the Coconut in my lotions. Think it will work

good?

> > Any thoughts would be great!

> >

>

> Personally, I would stick with the avocado oil. Fractionated

coconut

> oil would work, but avocado is just....well....it's just BETTER

> somehow. Better for the skin.

>

> Just my opinion,

>

> Amy

>

> All-natural, handmade luxury soaps,

> and the ebook, _Making Soap In Your Own Kitchen_,

> a beginner's guide to soapmaking.

>

> www.soapcrone.com/ebook.php

>

[Guest guest]

> Coconut oil is very good in lotions. I use it with other butters to make

a

> body butter.

>

> Does it get very greasy?? I hsve coconut oil and i have cocoa butter,

shea

> butter, bu tno idea what to do with them lol.

> Chrisxx

>

Coconut oil is excellent in lotions (even the hard kind!). I use it in

everything except face creams. In my foot cream I use it as 25% of the oils

and in my hand & body lotion as 6%. It is rich, very moisturising and not

more greasy than any other oil.

Regards

Hanle

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" I'm new to this group, first post. Am currently taking about 3 and 1/2

tablespoons a day of virgin, unrefined coconut oil. It's suppose to be

high in lauric acid which is suppose to have anti-viral properties.

Have heard it's supose to de-activate viruses. Any comments. Also was

wondering if anyone has an expereince with transfer factor? Thank you "

*******I found boosting Glutathione for few months and then adding coconut

helped.

Regards

CS

[Guest guest]

Hi taciturn.

People on this list have reported good results using coconut oil mainly

for candida overgrowth. I know that people use various transfer

factors with varying results also. Maybe someone with more specific

knowledge will reply. Welcome to the group and feel free to ask any

questions you have.

Tom

>

> Hi,

> I'm new to this group, first post. Am currently taking about 3 and

1/2

> tablespoons a day of virgin, unrefined coconut oil. It's suppose to

be

> high in lauric acid which is suppose to have anti-viral properties.

> Have heard it's supose to de-activate viruses. Any comments. Also was

> wondering if anyone has an expereince with transfer factor? Thank you

>

[Guest guest]

Sunny,

Just getting to your response to on the unfortunate lady with scoliosis, AS, etc. Thank you for that post.

I have to applaud you for the use of Coconut oil. I've been adding it to smoothies since I met Dr. Enig last summer. It does literally change one's life and oils. Without the essential fatty acids, cellular respiration can not occur. With the false oils of commerce, America is running out of energy, literally. (yep, I'm preaching because of my conversion!) And coconut is a powerful anti-fungal.

Also congrats for getting away from Soy. Have you read Dr Kaayla 's book The Whole Soy Story? It's put me off soy forever.

And don't feel bad about preaching to us about the evils of dairy. Pasteurized, it is liquid mucus full of pus cells. Yum! I'm convinced after this past year of study that it's a major cause of arthritis and a host of other problems.

Keep educating us. Though we fight, maybe we'll learn also. Thanks.

Christian Mathisen, D.C.

3650 S Pacific Hwy

Medford, OR 97501

cmathdc@...

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Hi Sharon .... for a 5 month old, I would suggest 1 teaspoon/day. the literature I have been reading talks more about 3+ tablespoons'/day but that is for adults.

for literature: www.livecoconutoil.com (R. Peat, PhD) or The Coconut Oil Miracle by Bruce Fife, CN ND or Coconut Cures by Bruce Fife ND & Conrado Dayrit MD

going back to an old thread of discussion we ran recently: this is a case that can make my blood boil: here is a child that was evaluated for the congenital anomaly and the pyloric stenosis, declared free of both of those diagnosis leaving the MDs with no place else 'to go' as far as diagnostic workup ...so "let's put a g-tube in him and send him home"! How about referring the child to the structural specialist (especially wtih the cranial component you mention) and see what they can do"? where is that component? How can they, in good consciousness, NOT pursue solutions and resolutions for this type of thing. Where is the teaching about the effects of dairy on this type of metabolic and digestive problem. Having experience with this type of thing, the answer an MD will give is "well, he'll probably just grow out of it" So let's just let the parents deal with the problem with NO concern of the stress and distress this type of problem presents to a family?

it's unconsciounable and criminal....not to mention SERIOUSLY disruptive to a family. THIS is where the (lack of) referral problem is so serious and disastrous to our population. And the MDs just go blithely on their way because 'it is not my problem'. This is how I have come to believe and understand that, however well meanaing and intended they are, the allopaths are interested in the diseases of our population, not their health.

Once again, my 2 cents.

Sunny

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7C

Eugene, Oregon, 97401

541- 344- 0509; Fx; 541- 344- 0955

From: "Sharron Fuchs" <sharronf@...>< >Subject: coconut oilDate: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:23:57 -0700

Sunny, For the baby I wrote about, how much of the oil should be mixed with the breast milk per day total ? Also, is there any literature on the use of this oil ?

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Thanks. I will pass this on ,minus the bottom part. The g- tube was not put in for vomiting but for nutrition that he was not able to get orally due to his other problem of micrognathia and inability to breathe on his own without struggling severely.And choking. His energy was going to trying to breathe. His NG tube was irritating his stomach so the parents, knowing all of the issues, made the decision for the g-tube and it was the correct decision for them and their baby. They wanted to get out of the hospital and so with the G-tube and a mandibular distraction he was able to get out without a trach within 10 days of the distraction. they are very smart people. They knew all of the problems before them. No structural specialist was going to make his mandible grow.

Overall I agree about bringing in a structural specialist. This should come into play automatically . But as you would agree, there are complicating factors that we can't deal with that take other specialists to view and treat. Yes, they have their limits ,if not limited views, but for the most part they are good at what they do and so are we.

sharron fuchs dc

From: sunny Kierstyn [mailto:skrndc1@...] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:40 AMSharron Fuchs; Subject: RE: coconut oil

Hi Sharon .... for a 5 month old, I would suggest 1 teaspoon/day. the literature I have been reading talks more about 3+ tablespoons'/day but that is for adults.

for literature: www.livecoconutoil.com (R. Peat, PhD) or The Coconut Oil Miracle by Bruce Fife, CN ND or Coconut Cures by Bruce Fife ND & Conrado Dayrit MD

going back to an old thread of discussion we ran recently: this is a case that can make my blood boil: here is a child that was evaluated for the congenital anomaly and the pyloric stenosis, declared free of both of those diagnosis leaving the MDs with no place else 'to go' as far as diagnostic workup ...so "let's put a g-tube in him and send him home"! How about referring the child to the structural specialist (especially wtih the cranial component you mention) and see what they can do"? where is that component? How can they, in good consciousness, NOT pursue solutions and resolutions for this type of thing. Where is the teaching about the effects of dairy on this type of metabolic and digestive problem. Having experience with this type of thing, the answer an MD will give is "well, he'll probably just grow out of it" So let's just let the parents deal with the problem with NO concern of the stress and distress this type of problem presents to a family?

it's unconsciounable and criminal....not to mention SERIOUSLY disruptive to a family. THIS is where the (lack of) referral problem is so serious and disastrous to our population. And the MDs just go blithely on their way because 'it is not my problem'. This is how I have come to believe and understand that, however well meanaing and intended they are, the allopaths are interested in the diseases of our population, not their health.

Once again, my 2 cents.

Sunny

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7C

Eugene, Oregon, 97401

541- 344- 0509; Fx; 541- 344- 0955

From: "Sharron Fuchs" <sharronf@...>< >Subject: coconut oilDate: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:23:57 -0700

Sunny, For the baby I wrote about, how much of the oil should be mixed with the breast milk per day total ? Also, is there any literature on the use of this oil ?

sharron fuchs dc

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I understand but what it took was 5 months to get a life and death struggle under control so they could look at the bigger picture. I feel for anyone having to think so much and to make such big life decisions.

I'll let you know how the oil is working. The literature is mixed on both weight gain and weight loss. I told her that if he lost any weight that they could try via the skin rather than oral. sharron fuchs dc

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of sunny KierstynSent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 2:19 PMSharron Fuchs; Subject: RE: coconut oil

My point was about the fact that they didn't and don't refer. It took 5 months for this set of parents to become aware of other options and sources. Of course the g-tube was necessary .... and then maybe it wasn't, IF the child had been seen in our community.

Where was the referral?

Sunny

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7C

Eugene, Oregon, 97401

541- 344- 0509; Fx; 541- 344- 0955

From: "Sharron Fuchs" <sharronftdcinjurylaw>< >Subject: RE: coconut oilDate: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:14:15 -0700

Thanks. I will pass this on ,minus the bottom part. The g- tube was not put in for vomiting but for nutrition that he was not able to get orally due to his other problem of micrognathia and inability to breathe on his own without struggling severely.And choking. His energy was going to trying to breathe. His NG tube was irritating his stomach so the parents, knowing all of the issues, made the decision for the g-tube and it was the correct decision for them and their baby. They wanted to get out of the hospital and so with the G-tube and a mandibular distraction he was able to get out without a trach within 10 days of the distraction. they are very smart people. They knew all of the problems before them. No structural specialist was going to make his mandible grow.

Overall I agree about bringing in a structural specialist. This should come into play automatically . But as you would agree, there are complicating factors that we can't deal with that take other specialists to view and treat. Yes, they have their limits ,if not limited views, but for the most part they are good at what they do and so are we.

sharron fuchs dc

From: sunny Kierstyn [mailto:skrndc1msn] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:40 AMSharron Fuchs; Subject: RE: coconut oil

Hi Sharon .... for a 5 month old, I would suggest 1 teaspoon/day. the literature I have been reading talks more about 3+ tablespoons'/day but that is for adults.

for literature: www.livecoconutoil.com (R. Peat, PhD) or The Coconut Oil Miracle by Bruce Fife, CN ND or Coconut Cures by Bruce Fife ND & Conrado Dayrit MD

going back to an old thread of discussion we ran recently: this is a case that can make my blood boil: here is a child that was evaluated for the congenital anomaly and the pyloric stenosis, declared free of both of those diagnosis leaving the MDs with no place else 'to go' as far as diagnostic workup ...so "let's put a g-tube in him and send him home"! How about referring the child to the structural specialist (especially wtih the cranial component you mention) and see what they can do"? where is that component? How can they, in good consciousness, NOT pursue solutions and resolutions for this type of thing. Where is the teaching about the effects of dairy on this type of metabolic and digestive problem. Having experience with this type of thing, the answer an MD will give is "well, he'll probably just grow out of it" So let's just let the parents deal with the problem with NO concern of the stress and distress this type of problem presents to a family?

it's unconsciounable and criminal....not to mention SERIOUSLY disruptive to a family. THIS is where the (lack of) referral problem is so serious and disastrous to our population. And the MDs just go blithely on their way because 'it is not my problem'. This is how I have come to believe and understand that, however well meanaing and intended they are, the allopaths are interested in the diseases of our population, not their health.

Once again, my 2 cents.

Sunny

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7C

Eugene, Oregon, 97401

541- 344- 0509; Fx; 541- 344- 0955

From: "Sharron Fuchs" <sharronftdcinjurylaw>< >Subject: coconut oilDate: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:23:57 -0700

Sunny, For the baby I wrote about, how much of the oil should be mixed with the breast milk per day total ? Also, is there any literature on the use of this oil ?

sharron fuchs dc

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In a message dated 11/18/06 10:07:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,

ByrneBunch@... writes:

> Do you of you Rochester soapers get your coconut oil locally?

I just go to Wal-Mart. It's about 2 lbs for $2.98 or something like that.

Marcia

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In a message dated 11/18/2006 1:35:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

Denmarbauc@... writes:

I just go to Wal-Mart. It's about 2 lbs for $2.98 or something like that.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It's .79/lb through Soapers Choice, plus shipping (about $17). I'm trying

to determine whether it's cheaper locally through a concession co.

Beth

_www.soapandgarden.com_ (http://www.soapandgarden.com/)

www.saponifier.com

[Guest guest]

I use coconut oil all the time in cooking. its not great for frying as the

smoke point is around 350..

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I think coconut oil is high in transfat - that is why you don't really see

it alot for cooking. (I know they use it at the movie theater for popcorn,

but that is a no no too lol)

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Yes, I've heard that people use it for cooking. Wally world (Wal-mart)

sells it. Some say it's not good to cook with it because of the high fat

content. I'm not sure.

On 1/2/07, ruth ulloa <honeyvarita@...> wrote:

>

> Hi:

> Has anybody hear about using coconut oil for cooking instead of OO or

> other oil, as sunflower, and use the OO only in the table, or to add to

> salads, just a question, Ruth

>

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Hi Ruth,

Perhaps the entire world's population of islanders use coconut oil

for many, many things. The biggest most major one is for cooking.

But, living here in bali I see alot of other raw uses of coconut oil

as well, such as salsa-like mixtures etc., etc. Most uses of oils has

to do with their region, in other words if you were born on an island

and were surrounded by coconuts, coconut oil is what you would use

for everything. (They even use it rubbed into hair or clothes to

remove chewing gum.) Likewise, if you grew up in the Mediterranean

you would most likely use olive oil, America, sunflower seed, etc., etc.

Coconut oil is gorgeous stuff, but it is the fastest oil to go

rancid, mainly because of all that yummy vegetable fat. This is also

the reason it has the highest saponification factor (268) of all the

oils, (or the most lye needed to make it into soap.) But again,

imagine how far the coconut oil you are using is from the source,

then imagine what they might have to do to it to keep it to extend

its shelf life. Remember to read your labels and look for the

freshest source. I am sure you can find some small coconut oil

producers in the states that are producing some gorgeous stuff. I

would also do a search for coconut oil because science is finding

some amazing beneficial health properties for coconut oil (its no

wonder these balinese look so damn healthy until they die! hahaha)

Hope this helps, and get cookin'.

Have a great day,

R. Lorenti Jr.

mlorenti@...

www.sensatia.com

On Jan 2, 2007, at 11:20 PM, ruth ulloa wrote:

> Hi:

> Has anybody hear about using coconut oil for cooking instead of OO

> or other oil, as sunflower, and use the OO only in the table, or to

> add to salads, just a question, Ruth

>

> __________________________________________________

> Correo

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>

>

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Hi

It is not recommended to use coconut oil in cooking as it has a low smoking

point which means it will burn easily if used for frying .The burning of oil

will produce toxic substances that cause diseases .In general coconut oil is a

saturated oil (solid at room temp) which is not recommened for heart and

artiries health.the best for cooking is Canola oil (frying too) ,soya oil and

olive oil for eating in salad.

happy new year

nihal

ruth ulloa <honeyvarita@...> wrote:

Hi:

Has anybody hear about using coconut oil for cooking instead of OO or other oil,

as sunflower, and use the OO only in the table, or to add to salads, just a

question, Ruth

__________________________________________________

Correo

Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis!

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coconutoil.com has some interesting articles on the health benefits of

coconut oil.

I became interested in using it in cooking school, it is a dream in baked

goods. I just see it like all other fats, everything in moderation.. It is

high in saturated fat, which was the HUGE no no in the 80's, and now the big no

no is trans fat.

Like I said.. everything in moderation... I find the best applications in my

home are in baking.. it produces better results than any other oil or

fat..save butter.