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the only thing about the yogurt acidophilus is that you also end up getting some

sugar. i

agree that the capsules are way more beneficial.

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> >

> > Dear

> >

> >

> > Indeed your surgery story sounds very

> > familiar.

> >

> >

> > For the ears, I was able to cure my own

> > problem with an otologist who injects kenacort into

> > my eardrum through the drains I have in place.

> >

> >

> > She rarely does that although she has a long

> > experience with ear issues here in Switzerland at

> > the otology department of the

> >

> >

> > university hospital of Geneva.

> >

> >

> > Other ENT often raise eyebrows as they are not

> > familiar with this practice.

> >

> >

> > It stoppes my becoming deaf very rapidly after

> > more than 2 years of nearly hearing nothing and

> > before I was just about to undertake a surgery to

> > have an ear implant.

> >

> >

> > Good luck

> >

> >

> > Anne

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi everybody,

> >

> > I have been following the messages of this

> > group already for some time

> > now but have hesitated to write my own note before.

> > The reason to this

> > is that even though I was extremely happy to find

> > people/a group that

> > actually knew and had experienced Samters themselves

> > (because then I

> > didn't feel so alone with it anymore), I also was

> > very sad and angry,

> > too, to not have been able to find you earlier than

> > now. My sorrow and

> > anger, of course, is not your fault, but instead is

> > due to the fact

> > that in Finland, where I live, it seems that no one

> > has known about

> > Samters. I have suffered of Samters for more than 25

> > years by now, but

> > it was not until this fall that I finally heard the

> > name Samter's

> > Triad and got my diagnosis right. I have had closer

> > to 20 sinus etc.

> > surgeries (e.g. Caldwell-Luc l.a., several

> > ethmoidectomies, more than

> > enough of polypectomies, FESS:es and tympanostomies.

> > Finally last

> > summer my right ear stopped working and became

> > deaf.)

> >

> > Now the doctors are finally planning the

> > Aspirin-desensitiza tion for

> > me - hopefully I will get it and hopefully it does

> > stop the disease

> > from getting any worse. My medication right now is

> > Singulair and

> > Roxithromycin, both I'm taking one twice a day,

> > Symbicort, Flixonase

> > and Betaserc for the ringing ear. Cortecosteroids I

> > can't take any

> > more, because I developed osteoporosis - and that is

> > being treated

> > with Fosamax and Ideos).

> >

> > Anyway, I'm glad that you all have found your way to

> > this

> >

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Yes, refrgieration is key, and acidophilus is not the only important

probiotic. There are even different probiotics for different

ailments, you have to research into it depending upon what you are

looking for.

I take a powder called UltraFlora plus DF (dairy free).

Lori

> >

> >

> > Dear

> >

> >

> > Indeed your surgery story sounds very

> > familiar.

> >

> >

> > For the ears, I was able to cure my own

> > problem with an otologist who injects kenacort into

> > my eardrum through the drains I have in place.

> >

> >

> > She rarely does that although she has a long

> > experience with ear issues here in Switzerland at

> > the otology department of the

> >

> >

> > university hospital of Geneva.

> >

> >

> > Other ENT often raise eyebrows as they are not

> > familiar with this practice.

> >

> >

> > It stoppes my becoming deaf very rapidly after

> > more than 2 years of nearly hearing nothing and

> > before I was just about to undertake a surgery to

> > have an ear implant.

> >

> >

> > Good luck

> >

> >

> > Anne

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi everybody,

> >

> > I have been following the messages of this

> > group already for some time

> > now but have hesitated to write my own note before.

> > The reason to this

> > is that even though I was extremely happy to find

> > people/a group that

> > actually knew and had experienced Samters themselves

> > (because then I

> > didn't feel so alone with it anymore), I also was

> > very sad and angry,

> > too, to not have been able to find you earlier than

> > now. My sorrow and

> > anger, of course, is not your fault, but instead is

> > due to the fact

> > that in Finland, where I live, it seems that no one

> > has known about

> > Samters. I have suffered of Samters for more than 25

> > years by now, but

> > it was not until this fall that I finally heard the

> > name Samter's

> > Triad and got my diagnosis right. I have had closer

> > to 20 sinus etc.

> > surgeries (e.g. Caldwell-Luc l.a., several

> > ethmoidectomies, more than

> > enough of polypectomies, FESS:es and tympanostomies.

> > Finally last

> > summer my right ear stopped working and became

> > deaf.)

> >

> > Now the doctors are finally planning the

> > Aspirin-desensitiza tion for

> > me - hopefully I will get it and hopefully it does

> > stop the disease

> > from getting any worse. My medication right now is

> > Singulair and

> > Roxithromycin, both I'm taking one twice a day,

> > Symbicort, Flixonase

> > and Betaserc for the ringing ear. Cortecosteroids I

> > can't take any

> > more, because I developed osteoporosis - and that is

> > being treated

> > with Fosamax and Ideos).

> >

> > Anyway, I'm glad that you all have found your way to

> > this

> >

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My doctor in the states says that it will help to balance your system. I also have acne but don't like taking antiobiotics and my skin has cleared up very nicely. I don't know if you enjoy reading but if you do checkout a book at the library on probiotics, you will be amazed at all of the health benefits of taking probiotics. I don't know what Dr. A says about probiotics so you may want to ask him, but I know what I have read, researched and experienced first hand and as soon as Dr.A gives the ok I will begin taking probiotics again. My husband has had a lot of digestive problems and he takes probiotics as well and his problems are gone. Probiotics have also helped with my exczema and my sugar cravings. Let me know how they work for you.

Someone was also talking about acid reflux problems not too long ago, my doctor in the states suggests apple cider vinegar. I know it smells and tastes horrible but it works. Vinegar white and apple cider have so many healing qualities.

From: Cyrena Weeks <cyrenaweeks@...>Subject: Probiotics Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 1:27 PM

ne,I have a question about probiotics. I just ordered some and thought that they might help my gastrointestinal issues. After reading your post, I have a question...I take 250 mg of antibiotics daily for my acne, I realize that throws off my bacteria but is extremely beneficial to my face. So if I take the probiotics will that help balance my system??

Cyrena

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My husband has had a lot of digestive problems and he takes probiotics as well and his problems are gone.

This was my experience as well. I have taken probiotics for years

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From: Cyrena Weeks <cyrenaweeks>Subject: Probiotics @groups. comDate: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 1:27 PM

ne,I have a question about probiotics. I just ordered some and thought that they might help my gastrointestinal issues. After reading your post, I have a question...I take 250 mg of antibiotics daily for my acne, I realize that throws off my bacteria but is extremely beneficial to my face. So if I take the probiotics will that help balance my system??

Cyrena

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Yes, definitely. Antibiotics wipe out all the good bacteria too and the

probiotics will put whatever you need back into your system.

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> From: Cyrena Weeks <cyrenaweeks>

> Subject: Probiotics

> @groups. com

> Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 1:27 PM

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> �

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>

> ne,

> I have a question about probiotics.� I just ordered some and thought that

they might help my gastrointestinal issues.� After reading your post, I have a

question...

> I take 250 mg of antibiotics daily for my acne, I realize that throws off my

bacteria but is extremely beneficial to my face.� So if I take the probiotics

will that help balance my system??

>

> �Cyrena

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Thanks Wayne for the info. Added sugar is bad for general immunity etc, but I

did not know it inactivated probiotics.

If we are dutiful enough, the sugar industry is going to lose money over us.

>

> Apparently plain yogurt is a better source of probiotic than flavored

yogurt( ie. SUGARS OR ACID INACTIVATE PROBIOTIC BACTERIA).

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From my understanding one would need to eat a lot of yogurt to get enough of the probiotics we need. There are live probiotics as supplements in the refrigerated section in most health food stores. From: Wayne <louis7680@...>samters Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 3:19:07 PMSubject:

Probiotics

Apparently plain yogurt is a better source of probiotic than flavored yogurt( ie. SUGARS OR ACID INACTIVATE PROBIOTIC BACTERIA). A friend suggested adding canned cranberry(ocean Spray) or jam to improve the flavor just before eating.

Fibre in the diet (prebiotic)is also of benefit(complex carbohydrates promote intestinal health).

Probiotics have been shown to benefit immune function,mood states and outlook on life

..My interest in all of this is that probiotics my decrease the incidence of respiratory infections and also help prevent secondary infections.

Also with all the antibiotic and hospital exposure I wonder how many of us are MRSA positive( not to mention resistant to macrolides or Moxi(aveolox)?

Sorry if I have the odd brain fart ,but I continually am thinking about Samter's and just hope to see a major breakthrough (ie cure)instead of addressing side effects and interactions between medications that we take.I feel priveledged to be a member of this group.

Sincerely Wayne

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Thank you Sabinna

..I eat a lot of yogurt but also have started taking probiotic

supplements(refridgerated capsules).I have no idea what amouts of probiotics and

from which sources would be appropriate.I welcome any insights into this.Also

considering sour milk-whey as Nils suggested.I am just beginning with what is

easy to obtain.Sincerely Wayne

>

> From my understanding one would need to eat a lot of yogurt to get enough of

the

> probiotics we need. There are live probiotics as supplements in the

refrigerated

> section in most health food stores.

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Wayne <louis7680@...>

> samters

> Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 3:19:07 PM

> Subject: Probiotics

>

>

> Apparently plain yogurt is a better source of probiotic than flavored yogurt(

> ie. SUGARS OR ACID INACTIVATE PROBIOTIC BACTERIA). A friend suggested adding

> canned cranberry(ocean Spray) or jam to improve the flavor just before eating.

> Fibre in the diet (prebiotic)is also of benefit(complex carbohydrates promote

> intestinal health).

> Probiotics have been shown to benefit immune function,mood states and outlook

on

> life

> .My interest in all of this is that probiotics my decrease the incidence of

> respiratory infections and also help prevent secondary infections.

> Also with all the antibiotic and hospital exposure I wonder how many of us are

> MRSA positive( not to mention resistant to macrolides or Moxi(aveolox)?

> Sorry if I have the odd brain fart ,but I continually am thinking about

Samter's

> and just hope to see a major breakthrough (ie cure)instead of addressing side

> effects and interactions between medications that we take.I feel priveledged

to

> be a member of this group.

> Sincerely Wayne

>

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There is a lot to consider,dosage just to start with.For example heat ie. a cup

of coffee while taking the probiotic can inactivate it.

Also probiotics might be multidrug resistant .This might enhance their

survival but the multidrug resistance would be easily passed to other ie

pathogenic bacteria.

> >

> > From my understanding one would need to eat a lot of yogurt to get enough of

the

> > probiotics we need. There are live probiotics as supplements in the

refrigerated

> > section in most health food stores.

> >

> >

> >

> >________________________________

> > From: Wayne <louis7680@>

> > samters

> > Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 3:19:07 PM

> > Subject: Probiotics

> >

> >

> > Apparently plain yogurt is a better source of probiotic than flavored

yogurt(

> > ie. SUGARS OR ACID INACTIVATE PROBIOTIC BACTERIA). A friend suggested adding

> > canned cranberry(ocean Spray) or jam to improve the flavor just before

eating.

> > Fibre in the diet (prebiotic)is also of benefit(complex carbohydrates

promote

> > intestinal health).

> > Probiotics have been shown to benefit immune function,mood states and

outlook on

> > life

> > .My interest in all of this is that probiotics my decrease the incidence of

> > respiratory infections and also help prevent secondary infections.

> > Also with all the antibiotic and hospital exposure I wonder how many of us

are

> > MRSA positive( not to mention resistant to macrolides or Moxi(aveolox)?

> > Sorry if I have the odd brain fart ,but I continually am thinking about

Samter's

> > and just hope to see a major breakthrough (ie cure)instead of addressing

side

> > effects and interactions between medications that we take.I feel priveledged

to

> > be a member of this group.

> > Sincerely Wayne

> >

>

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I too wonder about the best dosage. We currently are taking an age appropriate type, the brand is Ultimate Flora. For ages 18-49 it is 15 billion, but I believe it goes as high, if not higher than, 50 billion. In addition to health stores, I believe they can be found on the internet. Hope this helps!Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: "Wayne" <louis7680@...>Sender: samters Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 23:00:27 -0000<samters >Reply samters Subject: Re: Probiotics Thank you Sabinna.I eat a lot of yogurt but also have started taking probiotic supplements(refridgerated capsules).I have no idea what amouts of probiotics and from which sources would be appropriate.I welcome any insights into this.Also considering sour milk-whey as Nils suggested.I am just beginning with what is easy to obtain.Sincerely Wayne>> From my understanding one would need to eat a lot of yogurt to get enough of the > probiotics we need. There are live probiotics as supplements in the refrigerated > section in most health food stores. > > > > ________________________________> From: Wayne <louis7680@...>> samters > Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 3:19:07 PM> Subject: Probiotics> > > Apparently plain yogurt is a better source of probiotic than flavored yogurt( > ie. SUGARS OR ACID INACTIVATE PROBIOTIC BACTERIA). A friend suggested adding > canned cranberry(ocean Spray) or jam to improve the flavor just before eating.> Fibre in the diet (prebiotic)is also of benefit(complex carbohydrates promote > intestinal health).> Probiotics have been shown to benefit immune function,mood states and outlook on > life> .My interest in all of this is that probiotics my decrease the incidence of > respiratory infections and also help prevent secondary infections.> Also with all the antibiotic and hospital exposure I wonder how many of us are > MRSA positive( not to mention resistant to macrolides or Moxi(aveolox)?> Sorry if I have the odd brain fart ,but I continually am thinking about Samter's > and just hope to see a major breakthrough (ie cure)instead of addressing side > effects and interactions between medications that we take.I feel priveledged to > be a member of this group.> Sincerely Wayne>

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Gosh, so much to think about! Thanks, Wayne.Best,SabinaSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: "Wayne" <louis7680@...>Sender: samters Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 23:21:16 -0000<samters >Reply samters Subject: Re: Probiotics There is a lot to consider,dosage just to start with.For example heat ie. a cup of coffee while taking the probiotic can inactivate it.Also probiotics might be multidrug resistant .This might enhance their survival but the multidrug resistance would be easily passed to other ie pathogenic bacteria.> >> > From my understanding one would need to eat a lot of yogurt to get enough of the > > probiotics we need. There are live probiotics as supplements in the refrigerated > > section in most health food stores. > > > > > > > >________________________________> > From: Wayne <louis7680@>> > samters > > Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 3:19:07 PM> > Subject: Probiotics> > > > > > Apparently plain yogurt is a better source of probiotic than flavored yogurt( > > ie. SUGARS OR ACID INACTIVATE PROBIOTIC BACTERIA). A friend suggested adding > > canned cranberry(ocean Spray) or jam to improve the flavor just before eating.> > Fibre in the diet (prebiotic)is also of benefit(complex carbohydrates promote > > intestinal health).> > Probiotics have been shown to benefit immune function,mood states and outlook on > > life> > .My interest in all of this is that probiotics my decrease the incidence of > > respiratory infections and also help prevent secondary infections.> > Also with all the antibiotic and hospital exposure I wonder how many of us are > > MRSA positive( not to mention resistant to macrolides or Moxi(aveolox)?> > Sorry if I have the odd brain fart ,but I continually am thinking about Samter's > > and just hope to see a major breakthrough (ie cure)instead of addressing side > > effects and interactions between medications that we take.I feel priveledged to > > be a member of this group.> > Sincerely Wayne> >>

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Wayne, I hardly get to read the group anymore or check it but this topic is very interesting. When I first started on the Xolair I participated in the drug test and during one of my visits, they gave me the immunization for MRSA and I am so glad they did. It was a trial and I participated because I have a daycare and a few children had exposed me to staph infections. So far, I have avoided the MRSA outbreaks in the Atlanta area. Last spring I did have an over growth of staph in my nose but I was put on the nasal nebulizer with the three meds (antibiotic, steroid and anothe drug I have forgotten. I am going to add the probiotics and see how they do. At the present moment, I am having a lot of wheezing. I am tired all teh time and I think it could be pertaininig to my obesity. Either way, I feel lousy now.Gwendolyn Rafter

From: Wayne <louis7680@...>Subject: Probioticssamters Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 6:19 PM

Apparently plain yogurt is a better source of probiotic than flavored yogurt( ie. SUGARS OR ACID INACTIVATE PROBIOTIC BACTERIA). A friend suggested adding canned cranberry(ocean Spray) or jam to improve the flavor just before eating.Fibre in the diet (prebiotic)is also of benefit(complex carbohydrates promote intestinal health).Probiotics have been shown to benefit immune function,mood states and outlook on life.My interest in all of this is that probiotics my decrease the incidence of respiratory infections and also help prevent secondary infections.Also with all the antibiotic and hospital exposure I wonder how many of us are MRSA positive( not to mention resistant to macrolides or Moxi(aveolox)?Sorry if I have the odd brain fart ,but I continually am thinking about Samter's and just hope to see a major breakthrough (ie cure)instead of addressing side effects and interactions between medications that we take.I feel priveledged

to be a member of this group.Sincerely Wayne

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Hi Gwendolyn. So sorry to hear you are not well.Thanks for the information

regarding a vaccine to MRSA, I didn't know this was even available.MRSA should

appear in most of us eventually considering our antibiotic and hospital

exposure.Resistance to whatever antibiotic works for us now,with repeated

exposure I believe is a given.

I had vaccines to meningitis and pneumonia as I expected complications of

frontal sinusitis before I recieved treatment.On Asfy's recommendation I

recieved a second opinion from someone who did research and showed interest in

our condition,and upon seeing this specialist proper treatment followed ie

before complications.

It sounds like your asthma is out of control.I hope you seek treatment for

this(oxygen saturation may be low ,hence being tired)).

If you don't think you are recieving proper treatment you need a second

opinion.Diet ,lifestyle, exercise and mental outlook are things we can change

with a likely benefit.Now that I am retired I have some time to address these

issues.I believe you've read my posts and understand my interest in probiotics.I

wish you the best ,Sincerely Wayne Louis- In samters , Gwendolyn

Rafter <gwen5052@...> wrote:

>

> Wayne, I hardly get to read the group anymore or check it but this topic is

very interesting. When I first started on the Xolair I participated in the drug

test and during one of my visits, they gave me the immunization for MRSA and I

am so glad they did. It was a trial and I participated because I have a daycare

and a few children had exposed me to staph infections. So far, I have avoided

the MRSA outbreaks in the Atlanta area. Last spring I did have an over growth of

staph in my nose but I was put on the nasal nebulizer with the three meds

(antibiotic, steroid and anothe drug I have forgotten. I am going to add the

probiotics and see how they do. At the present moment, I am having a lot of

wheezing. I am tired all teh time and I think it could be pertaininig to my

obesity. Either way, I feel lousy now.

>

> Gwendolyn Rafter

>

>

>

>

> From: Wayne <louis7680@...>

> Subject: Probiotics

> samters

> Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 6:19 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Apparently plain yogurt is a better source of probiotic than flavored yogurt(

ie. SUGARS OR ACID INACTIVATE PROBIOTIC BACTERIA). A friend suggested adding

canned cranberry(ocean Spray) or jam to improve the flavor just before eating.

> Fibre in the diet (prebiotic)is also of benefit(complex carbohydrates promote

intestinal health).

> Probiotics have been shown to benefit immune function,mood states and outlook

on life

> .My interest in all of this is that probiotics my decrease the incidence of

respiratory infections and also help prevent secondary infections.

> Also with all the antibiotic and hospital exposure I wonder how many of us are

MRSA positive( not to mention resistant to macrolides or Moxi(aveolox)?

> Sorry if I have the odd brain fart ,but I continually am thinking about

Samter's and just hope to see a major breakthrough (ie cure)instead of

addressing side effects and interactions between medications that we take.I feel

priveledged to be a member of this group.

> Sincerely Wayne

>

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I wonder if anyone her has tried Dr. Ohhirra's Probiotics. I learned about them

on knowthecause.com and their claim to fame is that they make the body produce

your own bacteria. This is certainly a twist in my imagination and thought I'd

ask this group if anyone has experience with using these.

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Lyn, a probiotic is a proposal for a healthier bowel ecology. The proposal to

make more also requires the feed for the probiotics to thrive on. Inulin is a

very selective feed for probiotics.

Here's the science:

http://tinyurl.com/inulins

Taking probiotics without their feed doesn't work, which is the reason why

probiotics are known to stop working as soon as you stop eating them.

all good,

Duncan

>

> I wonder if anyone her has tried Dr. Ohhirra's Probiotics. I learned about

them on knowthecause.com and their claim to fame is that they make the body

produce your own bacteria. This is certainly a twist in my imagination and

thought I'd ask this group if anyone has experience with using these.

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Yes, I purchased them from Dr. Ben Kim's site. I just ran out but while I

was taking them, an herbalist I know highly recommended a product called

Pharmax HLC Synbiotic Intensive so I bought them this time. I have to say

that I did feel better while taking the Ohhirra's Probiotics...less or no

indigestion, less inflammation in my back, which was a painful thing I dealt

with each day. So I would say they were helpful, although a little pricey.

But Pharmax isn't too cheap either. But I will compare these and let you

know.

Louise

I wonder if anyone her has tried Dr. Ohhirra's Probiotics. I learned about

them on knowthecause.com and their claim to fame is that they make the body

produce your own bacteria. This is certainly a twist in my imagination and

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I have used them, only one at night, and regular probiotic in the mornings,

but ran out, and have not used them in a few months, but thought they were

good and seemed to have less bloating, and help with regularity. (which I

seem to have when I eat much coconut oil. Along with weight gain. Also

there's been times I wake up in the night feeling nauseated, which is a new

thing for me.) I read on earth clinic that many people had problems with the

coconut oil too. Do you all know if it's something that goes away after a

while? The blood type diet says it's not good for blood type A. But I don't

know that they tested raw extra virgin coconut oil back when they did the

test?) When I stopped eating coconut oil and the almond butter I lost the

5 lbs that I gained and started using it again, but much less of it and I

seemed okay for a while, but I over done it again and gained the 5 lbs back.

Could be that I can't have it with almond butter, daily I eat almonds or

walnuts, and that with my krill oil in the mornings, and fish oil in the

evenings, and if I have salad my dressing is made with lemon and flax oil or

olive oil. Maybe I'm getting way too much fat. That's what comes to mind

when wake up in the night feeling almost sick to my stomach. I don't eat

sugar, or flour products except rawer occasion, if I eat bread it's once a

week, Ezekiel bread. I eat meat sometimes, but not much, I like fish

better. And love my fruit and vegies. I do eat organic yogurt and cheese.

Mostly sheep cheese. and protein powder after my workout; Whey or pea. If

anyone knows what protein powder company is best to buy I'd like to know

that too. Sorry for the side trip here, but if anyone has anything to say

about this I'm listening. Some people don't think 5lbs is a big deal, but

for me it is a matter of fitting my pants. And I'm not buying bigger

clothes. I know I have to discipline myself better with the coconut oil

mixed with almond butter, and make time to eat right when I'm busy so I

don't overdo it on all the fat with its high calories. I'm preaching to

myself. Thanks for any wisdom sent my way.

Anyway I thought I'd try these probiotics again. I just bought more and

started them this time I'm taking one at night and in the morning, this

time. Here's a link where you can get them the best price I've found.

http://www.probiotics12plus.com/discountCapsules.htm 2 boxes of 120 cap.

$63.00 and free shipping.

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Coconut Oil

Subject: Probiotics

I wonder if anyone her has tried Dr. Ohhirra's Probiotics. I learned about

them on knowthecause.com and their claim to fame is that they make the body

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----- llje,

When I read about your feeling sick during the night, the thought came to my

mind if you might have gall bladder problems? Too much fat or oil from nuts

and oils could cause a problem if so. (It's happened to me)

Just a thought,

Louise

I have used them, only one at night, and regular probiotic in the mornings,

but ran out, and have not used them in a few months, but thought they were

good and seemed to have less bloating, and help with regularity. (which I

seem to have when I eat much coconut oil. Along with weight gain. Also

there's been times I wake up in the night feeling nauseated, which is a new

thing for me.) I read on earth clinic that many people had problems with the

coconut oil too. Do you all know if it's something that goes away after a

while? The blood type diet says it's not good for blood type A. But I don't

know that they tested raw extra virgin coconut oil back when they did the

test?) When I stopped eating coconut oil and the almond butter I lost the

5 lbs that I gained and started using it again, but much less of it and I

seemed okay for a while, but I over done it again and gained the 5 lbs back.

Could be that I can't have it with almond butter, daily I eat almonds or

walnuts, and that with my krill oil in the mornings, and fish oil in the

evenings, and if I have salad my dressing is made with lemon and flax oil or

olive oil. Maybe I'm getting way too much fat. That's what comes to mind

when wake up in the night feeling almost sick to my stomach. I don't eat

sugar, or flour products except rawer occasion, if I eat bread it's once a

week, Ezekiel bread. I eat meat sometimes, but not much, I like fish

better. And love my fruit and vegies. I do eat organic yogurt and cheese.

Mostly sheep cheese. and protein powder after my workout; Whey or pea. If

anyone knows what protein powder company is best to buy I'd like to know

that too. Sorry for the side trip here, but if anyone has anything to say

about this I'm listening. Some people don't think 5lbs is a big deal, but

for me it is a matter of fitting my pants. And I'm not buying bigger

clothes. I know I have to discipline myself better with the coconut oil

mixed with almond butter, and make time to eat right when I'm busy so I

don't overdo it on all the fat with its high calories. I'm preaching to

myself. Thanks for any wisdom sent my way.

Anyway I thought I'd try these probiotics again. I just bought more and

started them this time I'm taking one at night and in the morning, this

time. Here's a link where you can get them the best price I've found.

http://www.probiotics12plus.com/discountCapsules.htm 2 boxes of 120 cap.

$63.00 and free shipping.

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>> Sorry for the side trip here, but if anyone has anything to say

about this I'm listening. Some people don't think 5lbs is a big deal, but

for me it is a matter of fitting my pants. And I'm not buying bigger

clothes. Thanks for any wisdom sent my way.

Anyway I thought I'd try these probiotics again. I just bought more and

started them this time I'm taking one at night and in the morning, this

time. Here's a link where you can get them the best price I've found.

http://www.probiotics12plus.com/discountCapsules.htm 2 boxes of 120 cap.

$63.00 and free shipping.>>

Thank you for your sharing your experience with Dr. Ohhira's. I have been

wondering if I should just approach my health from the probiotic standpoint. I

am starting to make kefir and kombucha and was wondering if I could also help by

adding a good probiotic when I learned about these. I just wonder if I would get

them, if it would help. Or if it is possible to over-do it. I do not have named

health issues as people are familiar with, but I am trying to kick parasites and

have only gotten so far in my three-year journey at this. I hope some others

also reply with experience with these. I have just heard so much and used so

many junk products in my journey that I do not want to make another costly

mistake.

As for your own health situation, I totally understand the 5 lb fear you have.

My thots are, the next thing you could look into is alkalized water. I am not

heavy by any stretch of anyone's imagination, but my journey started with this

and a clean diet; and many things cleared up for me, including losing 5 lbs that

I didn't know I had to lose. It was really nice. That was over two years ago and

it is still gone.

There are the alkalizer machines and I've also learned that there are additives

that are made to add to water to make it alkaline, too. You want a machine that

alkalizes to at least 7.0 pH. I say this because personally don't see how any

lower alkalinity could have the most positive health effect and produce the

believer out of you. I will always sing the praises of alkalized water.

knowthecause.com supports and interview a company that sells alkalizing drops

for water, but I have not tried these since I bought a machine.

I'm no expert on fats, but I don't think the fats you eat are hurting you. They

are healthy fats. I eat quite alot of fat myself. Healthy fats. Something else

is going awry and alkalized water will help by detoxifying your system

everywhere that water goes when you drink it.

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