MCT Oil

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Something is not right. Maybe you could post a couple of days menus

and we can troubleshoot.

>

> Did anybody use MCT OIL in P2 ?

> or b-12 and collodial silver ?

>

> This is my 4th week. The first week was great but from the second week

> I only lost 1-1.5# a week. I do the protokol to the letters. I never

> gain just keep it for days. I need to loose about 100#. Any idea ?

> Please help.

>

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what is mct oil? On Nov 7, 2008, at 4:26 PM, erseki wrote:Did anybody use MCT OIL in P2 ?or b-12 and collodial silver ?This is my 4th week. The first week was great but from the second weekI only lost 1-1.5# a week. I do the protokol to the letters. I nevergain just keep it for days. I need to loose about 100#. Any idea ?Please help.

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My day menu is really simple

The first 2 weeks I ate 1 apple in mid-morning and the 2 grissini with

the lunch and dinner or for snack. Somebody told me to skip the apple

and the grissini and take L-Lysine (to get over the stall).

So in the lost 10 days I had the 100g chicken 2 times with some

garlic, and salt free seasoning. For veggies I use once a day

cucumber, for the other I eat asparagus or salad and sometimes tomato.

I do not use ACV - I just can not take it. Once a week I do chicken

" soup " with chicken-garlic-celery-parsley and fat free - salt free

chicken broth + water. I did try shrimp once, and white fish once. I

got them fresh from whole food (not frozen) and I really had to force

myself to eat it. I did try 2 times, when I was in a hurry egg white

shake - no fat, no sugar.

I drink black coffee in the morning and about 3-4 quart water a day.

Sometimes some herb tea (I'm sensitive for green tea).

Lost night I did take 2 vitamin C because I felt I'll coming down with

something. I just can not have that. I have a big concert this Sunday,

and I have to sing a lot. But this was the first time.

Most of the time I only ate 350-400 C. I don't even reach 500.

The only thing I do - what I shouldn't - is my shampoo has some oil in

it, but I only use it 2 times a week and really fast. (and my toothpaste)

NO MAKEUP, NO LOTION, NO SALT, NO OIL.

So this is me. If I do something wrong please let me know.

With this speed I have to be on this diet for 3 years to reach my goal.

Thanks for any suggestion,

Emoke

> >

> > Did anybody use MCT OIL in P2 ?

> > or b-12 and collodial silver ?

> >

> > This is my 4th week. The first week was great but from the second week

> > I only lost 1-1.5# a week. I do the protokol to the letters. I never

> > gain just keep it for days. I need to loose about 100#. Any idea ?

> > Please help.

> >

>

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It should help to release the fat, but it is oil.

I did not try it yet.

>

> > Did anybody use MCT OIL in P2 ?

> > or b-12 and collodial silver ?

> >

> > This is my 4th week. The first week was great but from the second week

> > I only lost 1-1.5# a week. I do the protokol to the letters. I never

> > gain just keep it for days. I need to loose about 100#. Any idea ?

> > Please help.

> >

> >

> >

>

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Medium Chain Triglycerides and there are no oils that are P2 or treatment phase VLCD legal or appropriate. The entire VLCD plan for protein is use ONLY low fat, no fat, etc., protein foods. That includes any kind of oil.

Judith

From: Amannda Schneider <amannda.schneider@...> Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 10:34:58 PMSubject: Re: MCT oil

what is mct oil?

On Nov 7, 2008, at 4:26 PM, erseki wrote:

Did anybody use MCT OIL in P2 ?or b-12 and collodial silver ?This is my 4th week. The first week was great but from the second weekI only lost 1-1.5# a week. I do the protokol to the letters. I nevergain just keep it for days. I need to loose about 100#. Any idea ?Please help.

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thank you for that help. What are examples of mct oil? I did not see this in the book. I thought as you have said, no oil. AmanndaOn Nov 8, 2008, at 7:52 AM, ohneclue wrote:, Medium Chain Triglycerides and there are no oils that are P2 or treatment phase VLCD legal or appropriate. The entire VLCD plan for protein is use ONLY low fat, no fat, etc., protein foods. That includes any kind of oil. JudithFrom: Amannda Schneider <amannda.schneiderverizon (DOT) net> Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 10:34:58 PMSubject: Re: MCT oilwhat is mct oil? On Nov 7, 2008, at 4:26 PM, erseki wrote:Did anybody use MCT OIL in P2 ?or b-12 and collodial silver ?This is my 4th week. The first week was great but from the second weekI only lost 1-1.5# a week. I do the protokol to the letters. I nevergain just keep it for days. I need to loose about 100#. Any idea ?Please help.

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Palm kernel oil and coconut oil are two that come immediately to mind. Others are more obscure, individual components of other oils.

MCT's have a purported use in helping to burn more calories for weight loss than other fats. But in order for that to happen, one has to consume half their calories or more from these oils. That would seem self defeating and completely and totally inappropriate in the hCG plan for sure in treatment phase or P2.

P3, maybe no problem because that is where you add fats and proteins. But not to the half your calories level in P3 -- one could shoot right past their 2# LIW limit.

Judith

From: Amannda Schneider <amannda.schneider@...> Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2008 10:40:52 AMSubject: Re: MCT oil

thank you for that help. What are examples of mct oil? I did not see this in the book. I thought as you have said, no oil. Amannda

On Nov 8, 2008, at 7:52 AM, ohneclue wrote:

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Medium Chain Triglycerides and there are no oils that are P2 or treatment phase VLCD legal or appropriate. The entire VLCD plan for protein is use ONLY low fat, no fat, etc., protein foods. That includes any kind of oil.

Judith

From: Amannda Schneider <amannda.schneider@ verizon.net>Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 10:34:58 PMSubject: Re: MCT oil

what is mct oil?

On Nov 7, 2008, at 4:26 PM, erseki wrote:

Did anybody use MCT OIL in P2 ?or b-12 and collodial silver ?This is my 4th week. The first week was great but from the second weekI only lost 1-1.5# a week. I do the protokol to the letters. I nevergain just keep it for days. I need to loose about 100#. Any idea ?Please help.

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MCT oil was developed for a ketosis diet for epileptics(not sure why that helps

thems, though) I used it 1 TBS a day in my Ultra Lean protein shake and it

worked great. It can get you into ketosis if you aren't already and keep you

there if you are. It actually works best with the ultralean. It is not in

Simeon's protocol but was recommended by the clinic I went to. You can find it

cheaper (it was very expensive at the clinic) at

www(dot)life-enhancement(dot)com.

Some benefits include:

may help increase HDL levels

lower caloric content

may increase energy expenditure

improves absorption of vit E, calcium, and magnesium

metabolized without bile

helps stabilize brain waves

fast energy

less fat storage

> >

> >> Did anybody use MCT OIL in P2 ?

> >> or b-12 and collodial silver ?

> >>

> >> This is my 4th week. The first week was great but

> from the second week

> >> I only lost 1-1.5# a week. I do the protokol to

> the letters. I never

> >> gain just keep it for days. I need to loose about

> 100#. Any idea ?

> >> Please help.

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

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you could try to add a TBS of mct oil into your day, only eat fruit with meals,

cut out fruit and tomatoes if still not losing to see if that helps, maybe also

more protein like a protein shake(I used UltraLean by BioGenesis)

> From: erseki <emokeerseki@...>

> Subject: Re: MCT oil

>

> Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 9:39 PM

> My day menu is really simple

>

> The first 2 weeks I ate 1 apple in mid-morning and the 2

> grissini with

> the lunch and dinner or for snack. Somebody told me to skip

> the apple

> and the grissini and take L-Lysine (to get over the stall).

>

> So in the lost 10 days I had the 100g chicken 2 times with

> some

> garlic, and salt free seasoning. For veggies I use once a

> day

> cucumber, for the other I eat asparagus or salad and

> sometimes tomato.

> I do not use ACV - I just can not take it. Once a week I do

> chicken

> " soup " with chicken-garlic-celery-parsley and fat

> free - salt free

> chicken broth + water. I did try shrimp once, and white

> fish once. I

> got them fresh from whole food (not frozen) and I really

> had to force

> myself to eat it. I did try 2 times, when I was in a hurry

> egg white

> shake - no fat, no sugar.

> I drink black coffee in the morning and about 3-4 quart

> water a day.

> Sometimes some herb tea (I'm sensitive for green tea).

> Lost night I did take 2 vitamin C because I felt I'll

> coming down with

> something. I just can not have that. I have a big concert

> this Sunday,

> and I have to sing a lot. But this was the first time.

> Most of the time I only ate 350-400 C. I don't even

> reach 500.

>

> The only thing I do - what I shouldn't - is my shampoo

> has some oil in

> it, but I only use it 2 times a week and really fast. (and

> my toothpaste)

>

> NO MAKEUP, NO LOTION, NO SALT, NO OIL.

>

> So this is me. If I do something wrong please let me know.

> With this speed I have to be on this diet for 3 years to

> reach my goal.

>

> Thanks for any suggestion,

> Emoke

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > Did anybody use MCT OIL in P2 ?

> > > or b-12 and collodial silver ?

> > >

> > > This is my 4th week. The first week was great but

> from the second week

> > > I only lost 1-1.5# a week. I do the protokol to

> the letters. I never

> > > gain just keep it for days. I need to loose

> about 100#. Any idea ?

> > > Please help.

> > >

> >

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Hi, Please clairfy what MCT oil is.

Fourth day on the protocol...Thanks,

From: got_nd@...Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:39:04 -0800Subject: Re: Re: MCT oil

you could try to add a TBS of mct oil into your day, only eat fruit with meals, cut out fruit and tomatoes if still not losing to see if that helps, maybe also more protein like a protein shake(I used UltraLean by BioGenesis)> From: erseki <emokeersekigmail>> Subject: Re: MCT oil> > Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 9:39 PM> My day menu is really simple> > The first 2 weeks I ate 1 apple in mid-morning and the 2> grissini with> the lunch and dinner or for snack. Somebody told me to skip> the apple> and the grissini and take L-Lysine (to get over the stall).> > So in the lost 10 days I had the 100g chicken 2 times with> some> garlic, and salt free seasoning. For veggies I use once a> day> cucumber, for the other I eat asparagus or salad and> sometimes tomato.> I do not use ACV - I just can not take it. Once a week I do> chicken> "soup" with chicken-garlic-celery-parsley and fat> free - salt free> chicken broth + water. I did try shrimp once, and white> fish once. I> got them fresh from whole food (not frozen) and I really> had to force> myself to eat it. I did try 2 times, when I was in a hurry> egg white> shake - no fat, no sugar. > I drink black coffee in the morning and about 3-4 quart> water a day.> Sometimes some herb tea (I'm sensitive for green tea).> Lost night I did take 2 vitamin C because I felt I'll> coming down with> something. I just can not have that. I have a big concert> this Sunday,> and I have to sing a lot. But this was the first time.> Most of the time I only ate 350-400 C. I don't even> reach 500.> > The only thing I do - what I shouldn't - is my shampoo> has some oil in> it, but I only use it 2 times a week and really fast. (and> my toothpaste)> > NO MAKEUP, NO LOTION, NO SALT, NO OIL.> > So this is me. If I do something wrong please let me know.> With this speed I have to be on this diet for 3 years to> reach my goal.> > Thanks for any suggestion,> Emoke > > > > > > >> > > Did anybody use MCT OIL in P2 ?> > > or b-12 and collodial silver ?> > > > > > This is my 4th week. The first week was great but> from the second week> > > I only lost 1-1.5# a week. I do the protokol to> the letters. I never> > > gain just keep it for days. I need to loose> about 100#. Any idea ?> > > Please help.> > >> > Windows LiveTM Hotmail®: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. Check it out.

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MCT oil is a medium chain triglyceride. It is derived from Coconut oil, but

don't confuse the two. Straight coconut oil would play havoc on this diet.

here is a little info from the bottle:

very little mct gets converted into body fat

mcts are rapidly burned for energy

mcts will not increase serum cholesterol levels

mct improves absorption of vitamin E, calcium and magnesium

it helps stabilize brain waves

it is metabolized without bile, thereby giving the gallbladder a rest

may increase energy expenditure

I read that it was developed for a ketosis diet for epileptics. I'm not really

sure why epileptics need to be in ketosis, but I do know that being in ketosis

is what is supposed to happen, so if this helps, I'll take it.

> From: erseki <emokeerseki@...>>

> Subject: Re: MCT oil> To:

> > Date: Friday, November 7,

> 2008, 9:39 PM> My day menu is really simple> > The

> first 2 weeks I ate 1 apple in mid-morning and the 2>

> grissini with> the lunch and dinner or for snack.

> Somebody told me to skip> the apple> and the grissini

> and take L-Lysine (to get over the stall).> > So in

> the lost 10 days I had the 100g chicken 2 times with>

> some> garlic, and salt free seasoning. For veggies I use

> once a> day> cucumber, for the other I eat asparagus

> or salad and> sometimes tomato.> I do not use ACV - I

> just can not take it. Once a week I do> chicken>

> " soup " with chicken-garlic-celery-parsley and

> fat> free - salt free> chicken broth + water. I did

> try shrimp once, and white> fish once. I> got them

> fresh from whole food (not frozen) and I really> had to

> force> myself to eat it. I did try 2 times, when I was in

> a hurry> egg white> shake - no fat, no sugar. > I

> drink black coffee in the morning and about 3-4 quart>

> water a day.> Sometimes some herb tea (I'm sensitive

> for green tea).> Lost night I did take 2 vitamin C

> because I felt I'll> coming down with> something.

> I just can not have that. I have a big concert> this

> Sunday,> and I have to sing a lot. But this was the first

> time.> Most of the time I only ate 350-400 C. I don't

> even> reach 500.> > The only thing I do - what I

> shouldn't - is my shampoo> has some oil in> it,

> but I only use it 2 times a week and really fast. (and>

> my toothpaste)> > NO MAKEUP, NO LOTION, NO SALT, NO

> OIL.> > So this is me. If I do something wrong please

> let me know.> With this speed I have to be on this diet

> for 3 years to> reach my goal.> > Thanks for any

> suggestion,> Emoke > > > > > >

> >> > > Did anybody use MCT OIL in P2 ?> >

> > or b-12 and collodial silver ?> > > > >

> > This is my 4th week. The first week was great but>

> from the second week> > > I only lost 1-1.5# a

> week. I do the protokol to> the letters. I never> >

> > gain just keep it for days. I need to loose> about

> 100#. Any idea ?> > > Please help.> >

> >> >

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Hi ,

Yes, both coconut and palm oil are healthy on a regular basis. Your best source

for info on these is here:

http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org/index.htm

Coconut milk is the milky fluid freshly extracted from the coconut kernel with

or without added water. Coconut cream is the high fat cream-like material

derived from the milk by either centrifugation or gravitational separation. 10

ounces of coco milk contains about 3.5 tablespoons of virgin coconut oil (VCO):

http://www.coconut-oil-central.com/coconut-milk.htmll

Both coconut milk and coconut oil are healthy choices, as is coconut cream,

coconut water, and coconut meat. As they say, variety is the spice of life :-)

and the milk and water add potassium and other minerals absent from the oil

(which has the MCFA's).

I cook with coconut oil, add concentrated coconut cream to coffee or hot

chocolate, drink coconut milk - in milk cartons, not canned (and now available

in the refrigerated section of Wallmart, believe it or not). I also sometimes

drink coconut water and use shredded coconut in baked goods. All good. And if

you're good at whacking coconuts they're great to eat fresh.

Dee

>

> I have tried Now brand " MCT Oil " , its made from coconut and palm oil and I did

notice a serious improvement in energy. The question is, is it healthy on a

regular basis ? Is coconut milk or oil a better choice and why (if so) ?

>

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MCT oil is what remains after the long chain oils have been removed. Caprylic

Acid (C8:0) 7.8 g & Capric Acid (C10:0) 6.2 g per 14 gram TBSP. It is the

healthiest fraction of coconut oil.

Odorless and colorless, a LIQUID saturated fat that won't scorch at high

temperatures, yes! This will be my second fat after butter and the one I'll cook

with and use on salads.

Palm oil in my data contains no capric or caproic acid so I don't know why they

woiuld say it's in there.

all good,

Duncan

>

> I have tried Now brand " MCT Oil " , its made from coconut and palm oil and I did

notice a serious improvement in energy. The question is, is it healthy on a

regular basis ? Is coconut milk or oil a better choice and why (if so) ?

>

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Dee, MCT oil is a refined COMPONENT fraction of coconut oil. There should be

hardly has traces of palm oil in it; my table of food oils indicates no MCT was

in the palm oil tested except .1% lauric, which is not present in this MCT oil.

Lowest price for the Now MCT oil seems to be under $15 a qt.

all good,

Duncan

> >

> > I have tried Now brand " MCT Oil " , its made from coconut and palm oil and I

did notice a serious improvement in energy. The question is, is it healthy on a

regular basis ? Is coconut milk or oil a better choice and why (if so) ?

> >

>

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Sorry. In this case my bad. I thought I was replying to 's question

regarding regular use of coconut + palm oil.

Dee

> > >

> > > I have tried Now brand " MCT Oil " , its made from coconut and palm oil and I

did notice a serious improvement in energy. The question is, is it healthy on a

regular basis ? Is coconut milk or oil a better choice and why (if so) ?

> > >

> >

>

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Having tried it, I consider it to be akin to a high performance rocket fuel. I

think MCT will be my pre exercise fuel. I certainly wouldn't consume it in the

evening.

In retrospect, I think the coconut oil is closer to what nature intended and so

is better suited to more frequent consumption.

> >

> > I have tried Now brand " MCT Oil " , its made from coconut and palm oil and I

did notice a serious improvement in energy. The question is, is it healthy on a

regular basis ? Is coconut milk or oil a better choice and why (if so) ?

> >

>

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Duncan,

Coconut oil and butter ghee is another good option. The combination makes

sense to me. I haven't tried it yet. I still have some ghee. I will definitely

be trying it though.

http://www.stfrancisherbfarm.com/product.aspx?ID=180

>

> MCT oil is what remains after the long chain oils have been removed. Caprylic

Acid (C8:0) 7.8 g & Capric Acid (C10:0) 6.2 g per 14 gram TBSP. It is the

healthiest fraction of coconut oil.

>

> Odorless and colorless, a LIQUID saturated fat that won't scorch at high

temperatures, yes! This will be my second fat after butter and the one I'll cook

with and use on salads.

>

> Palm oil in my data contains no capric or caproic acid so I don't know why

they woiuld say it's in there.

>

> all good,

>

> Duncan

[Guest guest]

Hello, Does anyone have any recommendations for the best MCT Oil to buy?