Re: Probiotics/ Parasite

[Guest guest]

I would say to go ahead and add probiotics, (I myself wouldn’t go without

probiotics) Yearsa past I had candida, didn’t know that, except bloating and

headaches and tired, kind a like now, except I think mine is more hormones now,

but I ended up with rash on my midriff and legs, not bad, but I went to natural

path and he had me do the renew life Candia cleanse 3 times in a row. I have

stayed on probiotics and think they have helped me. I do not crave sugar or

breads like I used to then, but fats instead.

And for parasites I buy Artemisia combination, I take a few times a year, and

I give them to my dogs a week each month, that and black walnut and their HS2,

in place of toxic heart wormers. My dogs are large dogs, 70-98lbs. They take 2

in the morning of Artemisia, and one HS2 only two of the days that week, and at

night one Artemisia with one black walnut,( find this dosage and plan on a

natural vet site) and it’s been about 3 years and they went to the vet and had

blood work with no heart worms. My husband was taking them one time when we

thought he had parasites, as his side was hurting and skin burning, (it was also

shingles ) so I had him take L-Lysine and high dosages of V-C powder, but I

already had him on Artemisia, and the V-C had him really going to the bathroom,

as he don’t have any problem with that anyway, unlike me. And he could

actually see parasites in the toilet. He got on line to see if he could find a

picture like them to see what kind they were, they were nematodes, (there are

many different kinds) his looked like miniature white porky pines fuzzy cotton

like things. I’m so glad he saw them, as he complains about me giving him all

the stuff I do.

If you want to try some and are not signed up on Natures sunshine all you have

to do is order $40.00 worth under someone’s number. You are not obligated to

ever buy again. I just buy once in a while, don’t have anyone under me

anymore, don’t do it for money, but to get the stuff that I like for a better

price. I like liquid ALJ, for allergy season. I also love liquid hawthorn and

liq. Echinacea golden seal combination, seems better than others I’ve tried,,

though pricey. JPX is good one for bladder and kidney detox and strengthen. If

you ever know anyone with bladder infection, 3, 3x a day work nicely. Several

years ago I was under a natural path and took a certified herbalist course under

him, and earned a trip for a weekend to salt lake for NSS convention, lots of

doctors there, classes to go to, etc.. and a tour of NSS plant. The have over a

million dollar’s in testing equipment for the herbs they buy. The herbs

growers bring them in in large barrels, and they test them before they will buy,

if they are not up to to[p standards they reject them, even if that means they

cant sell some of their products until more herbs come in. The growers will sell

the herbs to someone else who do not have the testing equipment. So I do believe

they do have top quality herbs. But a high price too, so I don’t buy all my

supplements from them.

If you are interested you can go on line and look first, can call them if you

want to become a member. Here’s my number if you need one to sign up.

18543738 Lori Eilerts

No minimum order once you have your 40.00 first order. I get my order in 2

days. I’m in AR, they ship from Dallas, but they have main office in Salt

lake. So depends where you are.

http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/general/search/?q=artemesia they are $11.90

or if not a member, 17.85

http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/shop/weeklyspecials/?utm_medium=Email

<http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/shop/weeklyspecials/?utm_medium=Email & amp;utm\

_campaign=May22Promo> & amp;utm_campaign=May22Promo this link goes to their

weekly special’s .

I know some people who have the water alkalizes, I drank some of their water for

a few months at one time, I thought it was good, but didn’t notice anything

much. I have a Nikkin aqua pour I drink my water from it. I have read on Dr.

Mercola and Dr. Wheelers write-ups that alkalizes should only be used for

short periods, not every day all the time. What they had to say was interesting,

and I had thought the same thing about the water structure being altered and

drinking it for all the time. Not that I know it all, as I sure don’t. I may

get some water from my friend though and try it again for a while.

I seem to crave the healthy fats, and dark chocolate at times. I have made some

with coconut oil and raw cocoa powder, stevia, or mesquite, or Xylitol. If I

buy chocolate I have got organic 85 %, so there is little sugar. And the 5 lbs,

some is bloating, and then I also have had another problem for years, my legs

swell, I’m a hairstylist “27 yearsâ€, standing a lot or like today, (I’m

off work) but sitting at the computer will do it too. Circulation. I have

spider veins too. Have wondered if the veins inside my inner legs swell and

ach, so it causes the rest of the problems. I take herbs for that too. I change

off and on. I do squats and lunges and walk up hills, so my muscles get pumped

too, but even on the days I don’t workout, they still swell. This morning I

had another pound, now I have 6lbs to lose. So I was not happy. I’m in sweats

today feel just fine, but going to work tomorrow I’ll be in my pants. You

understand I know.

Have a great week!

Lori

From: Coconut Oil

[mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of Lyn K

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 1:39 PM

Coconut Oil

Subject: Re: Probiotics

________________________________

>> Sorry for the side trip here, but if anyone has anything to say

about this I'm listening. Some people don't think 5lbs is a big deal, but

for me it is a matter of fitting my pants. And I'm not buying bigger

clothes. Thanks for any wisdom sent my way.

Anyway I thought I'd try these probiotics again. I just bought more and

started them this time I'm taking one at night and in the morning, this

time. Here's a link where you can get them the best price I've found.

http://www.probiotics12plus.com/discountCapsules.htm 2 boxes of 120 cap.

$63.00 and free shipping.>>

Thank you for your sharing your experience with Dr. Ohhira's. I have been

wondering if I should just approach my health from the probiotic standpoint. I

am starting to make kefir and kombucha and was wondering if I could also help by

adding a good probiotic when I learned about these. I just wonder if I would get

them, if it would help. Or if it is possible to over-do it. I do not have named

health issues as people are familiar with, but I am trying to kick parasites and

have only gotten so far in my three-year journey at this. I hope some others

also reply with experience with these. I have just heard so much and used so

many junk products in my journey that I do not want to make another costly

mistake.

As for your own health situation, I totally understand the 5 lb fear you have.

My thots are, the next thing you could look into is alkalized water. I am not

heavy by any stretch of anyone's imagination, but my journey started with this

and a clean diet; and many things cleared up for me, including losing 5 lbs that

I didn't know I had to lose. It was really nice. That was over two years ago and

it is still gone.

There are the alkalizer machines and I've also learned that there are additives

that are made to add to water to make it alkaline, too. You want a machine that

alkalizes to at least 7.0 pH. I say this because personally don't see how any

lower alkalinity could have the most positive health effect and produce the

believer out of you. I will always sing the praises of alkalized water.

knowthecause.com supports and interview a company that sells alkalizing drops

for water, but I have not tried these since I bought a machine.

I'm no expert on fats, but I don't think the fats you eat are hurting you. They

are healthy fats. I eat quite alot of fat myself. Healthy fats. Something else

is going awry and alkalized water will help by detoxifying your system

everywhere that water goes when you drink it.

[Guest guest]

WOW, you are working hard! I hope you hit a break through on something soon.

When you said about your " sedentary " postures for the day, I thought of

mentioning exercise, but you already do that. I know hair dressers have trouble

with carpal tunnel, too. So guard against that. Work your hands and wrists and

elbows with some soup cans. My heart goes out to you!! Just keep on the road you

are on. Something's gotta give for you sooner or later. As for the water, I will

add that I was drinking a gallon/day. My weight at the time was 114 lbs, so that

was more than my body weight in ounces. I started out drinking 6.0 water and

worked up to 7.0 within a month. I saw rapid improvement in my health condition

with this water at this rate--within the first week in fact. I was very

encouraged by this simple healer. I drank that much without fail for about a

year, though I knew by probably 8 or ten months that it had taken me as far as

it was going to take me, so it is not a cure-all. But it definitely had its

place for me.

I have gotten past the sugar cravings for quite a bit of the last three years

now. The alkalized water that I started on helped me pass quite a bit of this

and other health mountains that I had when I started doctoring myself. The

parasites I am left with don't need sugar. They are very happy to eat anything I

eat. These are a different breed. Two different kind are left. I have " movers "

in my colon and " twitchers " throughout my body. I know there are many different

kind to choose from. I have passed many different kind.

The reason I wonder if I should take probiotics is I do not have bowel dysbiosis

that I know of. My bowels move every day and often more than once a day. I also

don't have any pain or discomfort there. Just the sensation of them in there and

they eat most of it. But what I move is solid. Thankfully and amazingly they

have not done any damage to my colon after all this time. So I don't know if I

might go overboard if I go beyond kefir and kombucha. I really don't know much

about the gut yet.

I don't know what your abbreviations mean, so you can reply back about those. I

will look into Artimisia. I need something nasty to them that won't be nasty to

me, so I will look into Artimisia and NSS.

________________________________

From: llje <llje@...>

I would say to go ahead and add probiotics, (I myself wouldn’t go without

probiotics) Yearsa past I had candida, didn’t know that, except bloating and

headaches and tired, kind a like now, except I think mine is more hormones now,

but I ended up with rash on my midriff and legs, not bad, but I went to natural

path and he had me do the renew life Candia cleanse 3 times in a row. I have

stayed on probiotics and think they have helped me. I do not crave sugar or

breads like I used to then, but fats instead.

And for parasites I buy Artemisia combination, I take a few times a year, and

I give them to my dogs a week each month, that and black walnut and their HS2,

in place of toxic heart wormers. My dogs are large dogs, 70-98lbs. They take 2

in the morning of Artemisia, and one HS2 only two of the days that week, and at

night one Artemisia with one black walnut,( find this dosage and plan on a

natural vet site) and it’s been about 3 years and they went to the vet and had

blood work with no heart worms. My husband was taking them one time when we

thought he had parasites, as his side was hurting and skin burning, (it was also

shingles ) so I had him take L-Lysine and high dosages of V-C powder, but I

already had him on Artemisia, and the V-C had him really going to the bathroom,

as he don’t have any problem with that anyway, unlike me. And he could

actually

see parasites in the toilet. He got on line to see if he could find a picture

like them to see what kind they were, they were nematodes, (there are many

different kinds) his looked like miniature white porky pines fuzzy cotton like

things. I’m so glad he saw them, as he complains about me giving him all the

stuff I do.

If you want to try some and are not signed up on Natures sunshine all you have

to do is order $40.00 worth under someone’s number. You are not obligated to

ever buy again. I just buy once in a while, don’t have anyone under me

anymore,

don’t do it for money, but to get the stuff that I like for a better price. I

like liquid ALJ, for allergy season. I also love liquid hawthorn and liq.

Echinacea golden seal combination, seems better than others I’ve tried,,

though

pricey. JPX is good one for bladder and kidney detox and strengthen. If you

ever know anyone with bladder infection, 3, 3x a day work nicely. Several years

ago I was under a natural path and took a certified herbalist course under him,

and earned a trip for a weekend to salt lake for NSS convention, lots of doctors

there, classes to go to, etc.. and a tour of NSS plant. The have over a million

dollar’s in testing equipment for the herbs they buy. The herbs growers bring

them in in large barrels, and they test them before they will buy, if they are

not up to to[p standards they reject them, even if that means they cant sell

some of their products until more herbs come in. The growers will sell the herbs

to someone else who do not have the testing equipment. So I do believe they do

have top quality herbs. But a high price too, so I don’t buy all my

supplements

from them.

If you are interested you can go on line and look first, can call them if you

want to become a member. Here’s my number if you need one to sign up.

18543738

Lori Eilerts

No minimum order once you have your 40.00 first order. I get my order in 2

days. I’m in AR, they ship from Dallas, but they have main office in Salt

lake.

So depends where you are.

http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/general/search/?q=artemesia they are $11.90

or if not a member, 17.85

http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/shop/weeklyspecials/?utm_medium=Email

<http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/shop/weeklyspecials/?utm_medium=Email & utm_cam\

paign=May22Promo>

& utm_campaign=May22Promo this link goes to their weekly special’s .

I know some people who have the water alkalizes, I drank some of their water for

a few months at one time, I thought it was good, but didn’t notice anything

much. I have a Nikkin aqua pour I drink my water from it. I have read on Dr.

Mercola and Dr. Wheelers write-ups that alkalizes should only be used for

short periods, not every day all the time. What they had to say was interesting,

and I had thought the same thing about the water structure being altered and

drinking it for all the time. Not that I know it all, as I sure don’t. I may

get

some water from my friend though and try it again for a while.

I seem to crave the healthy fats, and dark chocolate at times. I have made some

with coconut oil and raw cocoa powder, stevia, or mesquite, or Xylitol. If I

buy chocolate I have got organic 85 %, so there is little sugar. And the 5 lbs,

some is bloating, and then I also have had another problem for years, my legs

swell, I’m a hairstylist “27 yearsâ€, standing a lot or like today, (I’m

off

work) but sitting at the computer will do it too. Circulation. I have spider

veins too. Have wondered if the veins inside my inner legs swell and ach, so

it causes the rest of the problems. I take herbs for that too. I change off and

on. I do squats and lunges and walk up hills, so my muscles get pumped too, but

even on the days I don’t workout, they still swell. This morning I had another

pound, now I have 6lbs to lose. So I was not happy. I’m in sweats today feel

just fine, but going to work tomorrow I’ll be in my pants. You understand I

know.

Have a great week!

Lori

[Guest guest]

The abbreviations for JPX, is it’s name, it’s a product, NSS is (Nature’s

sunshine). The time my husband saw the parasites he was not taking the Artemisia

herbs like directions, he took 3 at bed time. And they worked for him. When I

take them I do two in the morning and two at night. ( but I don’t thinking

I’ve had a problem with parasites that I can tell. Just do it to keep from it.

They also have a paw paw parasite pack you might read about. I think that when I

have overdone it, or I should say taken probiotics and or other things fast and

not gradual, I notice bloating. Dr. Mercola’s probiotics are 66 billion which

sounds like a lot, but most are too low to do enough. Garden of life primal

defense seems ok, I give my dogs one every morning. I take them once in a while.

I have Mercola’s and these right now.

http://www.probiotics12plus.com/discountCapsules.htm How did you figure out you

had the parasites? I see you said you can feel them…where do you think you got

them?

I had carpel tunnel in the past, my fingers and wrist used to hurt bad. I prayed

for them, and someone else did, and several months later the pain left, now

years later I’m still good. I do hair 4 days a week. But I’m always busy

doing something if not at work. Trying to learn how to rest, as when I’m home

there’s always stuff to be done, so for rest, that’s been when I’m on the

computer. My birthday is coming up soon, falls on a Saturday, I’m taking off

and we are going to go do something away from everything. Just feel like I need

a break…Trying to figure that out now.

From: Coconut Oil

[mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of Lyn K

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:20 PM

Coconut Oil

Subject: Re: Probiotics/ Parasite

WOW, you are working hard! I hope you hit a break through on something soon.

When you said about your " sedentary " postures for the day, I thought of

mentioning exercise, but you already do that. I know hair dressers have trouble

with carpal tunnel, too. So guard against that. Work your hands and wrists and

elbows with some soup cans. My heart goes out to you!! Just keep on the road you

are on. Something's gotta give for you sooner or later. As for the water, I will

add that I was drinking a gallon/day. My weight at the time was 114 lbs, so that

was more than my body weight in ounces. I started out drinking 6.0 water and

worked up to 7.0 within a month. I saw rapid improvement in my health condition

with this water at this rate--within the first week in fact. I was very

encouraged by this simple healer. I drank that much without fail for about a

year, though I knew by probably 8 or ten months that it had taken me as far as

it was going to take me, so it is not a cure-all. But it definitely had its

place for me.

I have gotten past the sugar cravings for quite a bit of the last three years

now. The alkalized water that I started on helped me pass quite a bit of this

and other health mountains that I had when I started doctoring myself. The

parasites I am left with don't need sugar. They are very happy to eat anything I

eat. These are a different breed. Two different kind are left. I have " movers "

in my colon and " twitchers " throughout my body. I know there are many different

kind to choose from. I have passed many different kind.

The reason I wonder if I should take probiotics is I do not have bowel dysbiosis

that I know of. My bowels move every day and often more than once a day. I also

don't have any pain or discomfort there. Just the sensation of them in there and

they eat most of it. But what I move is solid. Thankfully and amazingly they

have not done any damage to my colon after all this time. So I don't know if I

might go overboard if I go beyond kefir and kombucha. I really don't know much

about the gut yet.

I don't know what your abbreviations mean, so you can reply back about those. I

will look into Artimisia. I need something nasty to them that won't be nasty to

me, so I will look into Artimisia and NSS.

________________________________

From: llje <llje@... <mailto:llje%40cox.net> >

I would say to go ahead and add probiotics, (I myself wouldn’t go without

probiotics) Yearsa past I had candida, didn’t know that, except bloating and

headaches and tired, kind a like now, except I think mine is more hormones now,

but I ended up with rash on my midriff and legs, not bad, but I went to natural

path and he had me do the renew life Candia cleanse 3 times in a row. I have

stayed on probiotics and think they have helped me. I do not crave sugar or

breads like I used to then, but fats instead.

And for parasites I buy Artemisia combination, I take a few times a year, and

I give them to my dogs a week each month, that and black walnut and their HS2,

in place of toxic heart wormers. My dogs are large dogs, 70-98lbs. They take 2

in the morning of Artemisia, and one HS2 only two of the days that week, and at

night one Artemisia with one black walnut,( find this dosage and plan on a

natural vet site) and it’s been about 3 years and they went to the vet and had

blood work with no heart worms. My husband was taking them one time when we

thought he had parasites, as his side was hurting and skin burning, (it was also

shingles ) so I had him take L-Lysine and high dosages of V-C powder, but I

already had him on Artemisia, and the V-C had him really going to the bathroom,

as he don’t have any problem with that anyway, unlike me. And he could

actually

see parasites in the toilet. He got on line to see if he could find a picture

like them to see what kind they were, they were nematodes, (there are many

different kinds) his looked like miniature white porky pines fuzzy cotton like

things. I’m so glad he saw them, as he complains about me giving him all the

stuff I do.

If you want to try some and are not signed up on Natures sunshine all you have

to do is order $40.00 worth under someone’s number. You are not obligated to

ever buy again. I just buy once in a while, don’t have anyone under me

anymore,

don’t do it for money, but to get the stuff that I like for a better price. I

like liquid ALJ, for allergy season. I also love liquid hawthorn and liq.

Echinacea golden seal combination, seems better than others I’ve tried,,

though

pricey. JPX is good one for bladder and kidney detox and strengthen. If you

ever know anyone with bladder infection, 3, 3x a day work nicely. Several years

ago I was under a natural path and took a certified herbalist course under him,

and earned a trip for a weekend to salt lake for NSS convention, lots of doctors

there, classes to go to, etc.. and a tour of NSS plant. The have over a million

dollar’s in testing equipment for the herbs they buy. The herbs growers bring

them in in large barrels, and they test them before they will buy, if they are

not up to to[p standards they reject them, even if that means they cant sell

some of their products until more herbs come in. The growers will sell the herbs

to someone else who do not have the testing equipment. So I do believe they do

have top quality herbs. But a high price too, so I don’t buy all my

supplements

from them.

If you are interested you can go on line and look first, can call them if you

want to become a member. Here’s my number if you need one to sign up. 18543738

Lori Eilerts

No minimum order once you have your 40.00 first order. I get my order in 2

days. I’m in AR, they ship from Dallas, but they have main office in Salt

lake.

So depends where you are.

http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/general/search/?q=artemesia they are $11.90

or if not a member, 17.85

http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/shop/weeklyspecials/?utm_medium=Email

<http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/shop/weeklyspecials/?utm_medium=Email

<http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/shop/weeklyspecials/?utm_medium=Email & utm_cam\

paign=May22Promo> & utm_campaign=May22Promo>

& utm_campaign=May22Promo this link goes to their weekly special’s .

I know some people who have the water alkalizes, I drank some of their water for

a few months at one time, I thought it was good, but didn’t notice anything

much. I have a Nikkin aqua pour I drink my water from it. I have read on Dr.

Mercola and Dr. Wheelers write-ups that alkalizes should only be used for

short periods, not every day all the time. What they had to say was interesting,

and I had thought the same thing about the water structure being altered and

drinking it for all the time. Not that I know it all, as I sure don’t. I may

get

some water from my friend though and try it again for a while.

I seem to crave the healthy fats, and dark chocolate at times. I have made some

with coconut oil and raw cocoa powder, stevia, or mesquite, or Xylitol. If I

buy chocolate I have got organic 85 %, so there is little sugar. And the 5 lbs,

some is bloating, and then I also have had another problem for years, my legs

swell, I’m a hairstylist “27 yearsâ€, standing a lot or like today, (I’m

off

work) but sitting at the computer will do it too. Circulation. I have spider

veins too. Have wondered if the veins inside my inner legs swell and ach, so

it causes the rest of the problems. I take herbs for that too. I change off and

on. I do squats and lunges and walk up hills, so my muscles get pumped too, but

even on the days I don’t workout, they still swell. This morning I had another

pound, now I have 6lbs to lose. So I was not happy. I’m in sweats today feel

just fine, but going to work tomorrow I’ll be in my pants. You understand I

know.

Have a great week!

Lori

[Guest guest]

A word about Primal Defense (two words actually): " Bacillus licheniformis " --

the " cancer-causing bacteria " . Gooogle it; it's in the preparation.

all good,

Duncan

>

> Dr. Mercola’s probiotics are 66 billion which sounds like a lot, but most

are too low to do enough. Garden of life primal defense seems ok,

[Guest guest]

I looked on my bottle, it didn’t have that, but it did have Bacillus subtilis

so I did Google it. I have not read all yet, I have a sinus headache trying

to come on, but I did a search to see if maybe they were the same things, but

what I found was too hard to read right now. Do you know if they are the same or

if different? Or maybe what you mean is that in the preparation is where it is.

The below links have the Subtilis . Thank you, Lori

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacillus_subtilis

http://epa.gov/biotech_rule/pubs/fra/fra009.htm

From: Coconut Oil

[mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of Duncan Crow

Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 5:44 PM

Coconut Oil

Subject: Re: Probiotics/ Parasite

A word about Primal Defense (two words actually): " Bacillus licheniformis " --

the " cancer-causing bacteria " . Gooogle it; it's in the preparation.

all good,

Duncan

>

> Dr. Mercola’s probiotics are 66 billion which sounds like a lot, but

most are too low to do enough. Garden of life primal defense seems ok,

[Guest guest]

Here's a link for you.

><http://www.listen2yourgut.com/blog/tag/homeostatic-soil-organisms/>

Although B. licheniformis no longer appears on the label, apparently the company

still uses the cancer bacteria to formulate their probiotic Primal Defense.

all good,

Duncan

[Guest guest]

I have found a probiotic that I am impressed with called HLC synbiotic

intensive by Pharmax.

rockwellnutrition.com

Louise

I looked on my bottle, it didn’t have that, but it did have Bacillus

subtilis so I did Google it. I have not read all yet, I have a sinus

headache trying to come on, but I did a search to see if maybe they were

the same things, but what I found was too hard to read right now. Do you

know if they are the same or if different? Or maybe what you mean is that in

the preparation is where it is. The below links have the Subtilis . Thank

you, Lori

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacillus_subtilis

http://epa.gov/biotech_rule/pubs/fra/fra009.htm

From: Coconut Oil

[mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of Duncan Crow

Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 5:44 PM

Coconut Oil

Subject: Re: Probiotics/ Parasite

A word about Primal Defense (two words actually): " Bacillus

licheniformis " -- the " cancer-causing bacteria " . Gooogle it; it's in the

preparation.

all good,

Duncan

>

> Dr. Mercola’s probiotics are 66 billion which sounds like a lot, but

> most are too low to do enough. Garden of life primal defense seems ok,

[Guest guest]

Why are you so impressed about it?

From: s.l-c.o <s.l-c.o@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Probiotics/ Parasite

Coconut Oil

Date: Thursday, May 26, 2011, 6:52 AM

 

I have found a probiotic that I am impressed with called HLC synbiotic

intensive by Pharmax.

rockwellnutrition.com

Louise

I looked on my bottle, it didn’t have that, but it did have Bacillus

subtilis so I did Google it. I have not read all yet, I have a sinus

headache trying to come on, but I did a search to see if maybe they were

the same things, but what I found was too hard to read right now. Do you

know if they are the same or if different? Or maybe what you mean is that in

the preparation is where it is. The below links have the Subtilis . Thank

you, Lori

[Guest guest]

I think the 10 grams of FOS in Pharmax HLC synbiotic intensive will be doing the

" heavy lifting " . Bifidobacteria easily outpower the lactobacilli in the blend,

but there are only 2 kinds of bifidobacteria in it.

If you look at the graph of many research papers on my inulin page, you'll see

that in the elderly bowel lactobacilli numbers are generally high and so are

pathogens, meaning they aren't working as well as one would like, but even small

fluctuations in bifidobacteria numbers bring large numeric changes to the

pathogens and lactobacilli as well:

http://tinyurl.com/inulins

So the object is to primarily increase bifidobacteria, especially in older

adults, and since bifidobacteria flourish faster on FOS than lactobacilli do, I

think the 50% FOS in the blend will be producing the heavy lifting, and more

from the existing probiotic cultures in the gut than from the probiotics in the

capsule.

all good,

Duncan

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> > Dr. Mercola’s probiotics are 66 billion which sounds like a lot, but

> > most are too low to do enough. Garden of life primal defense seems ok,

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