Guest guest Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 , zealots tend to be optimistic. With the help of oil pulling author Bruce Fife we established that there's no actual " pulling " of toxins or infectious agents from the tissues by swishing any liquid, although pus pockets under the gumline that are open to the mouth can be rinsed by it; it's strictly a mouth-swish with oil, IMO with a misleading, poorly-chosen name. The swishing action itself and a few minutes residual bacterial kill below the gumline is the outcome of this practice. It's pleasant to have a clean mouth. I swish with Lavoris White mouthwash, which contains three germicides, xylitol, peroxide, and peppermint oil, to which I add some colloidal silver. No germ escapes silver and peroxide together; the kill rate is 1000 times (log 3 in the research) higher in synergy than for either one alone, and the latency is higher than with oil because it is water soluble. This is why they even use it for potable water and sewage treatment in some of the world's largest cities. Oil swishing doesn't get most of the plaque or trapped food for me, so after I swish I also brush with a power brush and then floss, then swish/rinse briefly. Similarly my wife professes that her mouth is mush cleaner when she power brushes her teeth and her upper plate. She says the denture needs a decent scrub to get it clean and she uses Tom's toothpaste for that. She uses an organic citrus mouthwash for the swishing; it has too much glycerine in it for my taste. In response to your direct question , oxidative stress leading to things like heart disease is reduced when you have a clean mouth, so some people think oil swishing is a cure for heart disease for example. all good, Duncan > > Dee, > > I found your posts and I can totally see where this could help the mouth, > especially CO with all its properties, but the one site I went too claimed it > for just about everything else, which I don't get. Anyone know anything about > oil pulling with regards to problems not seated in the mouth? > > Thanks > > C. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 , Rather than get your information second hand from someone with their own agenda, here is exactly what Bruce Fife said in message #33441: RE: Re: OT - Tooth decay options I would like to clear up some confusion about oil pulling. The name " oil pulling " is actually very descriptive of what is going on. While swishing oil in the mouth, the oil is actually pulling germs, mucus, and pus from the mouth-cleaning the teeth and gums better than flossing or brushing, although they are important too. It does not, however, pull toxins out of the bloodstream and into the mouth. That would be impossible. But the fact that it does pull disease-causing bacteria and viruses from the mouth has far-reaching health consequences. These germs are constantly seeping into the bloodstream and cause a lot of health problems. By removing the source of the problem, the body is able to detox better and healing results. I go into detail on this process in my book " Oil Pulling Therapy " and back it up with references to literally hundreds of published studies. Many of the early studies were performed by Dr. Weston A. Price. His research on this topic was incredible. Bruce And you can read the full story by Bruce Fife here: http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org/article%20oil%20pulling.htm Best, Dee > > , zealots tend to be optimistic. With the help of oil pulling author Bruce Fife we established that there's no actual " pulling " of toxins or infectious agents from the tissues by swishing any liquid, although pus pockets under the gumline that are open to the mouth can be rinsed by it; it's strictly a mouth-swish with oil, IMO with a misleading, poorly-chosen name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Duncan, Killing bad bateria in mouth also kills friendly bacteria and some enzymes necessary for the PRE-digestion. Some of them are not replaceable. > > , zealots tend to be optimistic. With the help of oil pulling author Bruce Fife we established that there's no actual " pulling " of toxins or infectious agents from the tissues by swishing any liquid, although pus pockets under the gumline that are open to the mouth can be rinsed by it; it's strictly a mouth-swish with oil, IMO with a misleading, poorly-chosen name. The swishing action itself and a few minutes residual bacterial kill below the gumline is the outcome of this practice. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Hi , To be clear you aren't suggesting that coconut oil destroys friendly bacteria as well as bad are you? Wouldn't that be what something like Lavoris (which contains peroxide) - or even colloidial silver would do? Dee > > > > , zealots tend to be optimistic. With the help of oil pulling author Bruce Fife we established that there's no actual " pulling " of toxins or infectious agents from the tissues by swishing any liquid, although pus pockets under the gumline that are open to the mouth can be rinsed by it; it's strictly a mouth-swish with oil, IMO with a misleading, poorly-chosen name. The swishing action itself and a few minutes residual bacterial kill below the gumline is the outcome of this practice. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 , yes the oil and other mouthwashes we rinse with do kill some beneficial bacteria as well. Rinsing the mouth doesn't kill off all the bacteria though, we add more when we eat. Also, mouth bacteria continually replicate, so they are indeed easily replaceable. If you want to have a few more probiotics in your mouth though, eat some cheese, yogurt, sour cream, that kind of thing Enzymes that are washed away by the rinse are replaced as soon as your salivary glands make more saliva, which takes a few seconds to a couple of minutes tops. all good, Duncan > > Duncan, > > Killing bad bateria in mouth also kills friendly bacteria and some enzymes necessary for the PRE-digestion. Some of them are not replaceable. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 is probably aware of the the research that showed the kill rate coconut oil produces is lower for probiotics (the " friendly bacteria " ) than it is for pathogens. She is right in noting that relationship. all good, Duncan > > Hi , > > To be clear you aren't suggesting that coconut oil destroys friendly bacteria as well as bad are you? Wouldn't that be what something like Lavoris (which contains peroxide) - or even colloidial silver would do? > > Dee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Dee, Coconut oil hardly kills good bacteria. In fact it is like mother's milk. Lauric and caprylic acids are contained in mother's milk. It is the capric acid which is not contained in mother's milk, but the amount in the vco is minimal. Take your vco, it won't hurt you. BTW, i know when my tummy is not in order, the moment i take vco, it kills the pathogen and go scooting to the bathroom in 15 minutes time. > > > > Hi , > > > > To be clear you aren't suggesting that coconut oil destroys friendly bacteria as well as bad are you? Wouldn't that be what something like Lavoris (which contains peroxide) - or even colloidial silver would do? > > > > Dee > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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