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And I just jumped into the ranks of a mixed couple too. My fiance is coming

up from California for Thanksgiving to meet my family. We're gonna have a

blast. We're kind of at the " deliriously in love stage " .

Judi (LP) and Gerry (BP)

>Message: 5

> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:36:17 -0600

> From: Bell <eibell@...>

>Subject: Dwarfism BP/LP

>

>Hi April

>

>I have no idea on what the statistics are of BP/LP couples but then I

>don't know what BP stands for either but my husband and I are both LP's.

>My mother was LP and my father was average stature. So were my

>grandparents on both sides though there was an old picture that my

>grandmother had of a male dwarf but she would not acknowledge who he was

>or if he was a relative, which we figure he was.

>

>On my husband's side, both is parents and grandparents are average

>stature.

>

>This is my first attempt at answering an inquiry, as I just joined the

>list the first of the week.

>

>I live in Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada and am a member of the Little People

>of Manitoba.

>

> Bell

>

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>In response to your question about using aniseed, I feel that it would be

irresponsible of me not to respond. The " bible " I >use for essential oil

safety is " The Encyclopedia of Essential Oils " by Lawless and aniseed

has a caution under safety: > " Its major component, anethole, is known to

cause dermatities in some individuals-avoid in allergic and inflam. skin

cond. >In large doses it is narcotic and slows down the circulation; can

lead to cerebral disorders. Use in moderation only. " My >mother loves this

scent as well and I wanted to make something for her but the cautions had me

a little spooked.

Hi ,

Thanks too for this info. I have used aniseed EO in CP, but was debating

on putting it in M & P. Now I definately won't. My question is..........do

you think the EO properties hold up in CP?? I've heard before that there

is some debate on this. I have to say, the CP i did up is lovely and smells

good enough to eat!

Thanks,

Connie :-)

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Carol,

More Info at:

http://www.hacres.com also another good one is http://www.chetday.com

I have spent eons at these sites learning the diet connection to cleansing

parasites. JB

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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 13:07:09 -0500 (CDT)

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Subject: Hallelujuia Diet

Carol,

This is the only place I can find info on this diet.

http://yourlifesource.com/h_acres.htm

Hi JB,

<Just thinking,could your hives have anything to do with chemical

sensitivitys?>

This could be!?! I havn't had any hives for about 3 days but I also have

been very strickt with my eating and have had nothing but fresh fruit

veggies and whole grains! I tried to change all my houshold cleaners to

borax and such like Dr. clark says in her book, but I can't get anything

clean with this stuff and after a week I gave up and got a cleaner called

planet solutions it's supposed to be vegtable enzymes, it works great for

cleaning dishes and floors ect.. but I still don't know 0f a good

soap,shampoo?? any ideas? Even the health food store shampoos smell like

chemicals. I was going to try herbal life products from my friend but havn't

yet. And I don't know how to test this stuff the Dr. way. ( to short

on cash to buy a tester)Thanks for the help everyone! Also about the

diabetes info this was great thank you. I know that type 1 like I have can

be caused by childhood vaccines, as well as pasturized cow milk consumption.

Thanks so much, JB

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Hello all,

First, I am sorry to hear of the troubles some of you are having, I know

that I too have been very slow the last 3 months. Jon, I am going to

have to kick your ass, because we were neck and neck and you have shot

ahead me by leaps and bounds. I am working out, but not dieting. I

try to eat well and just started on the protein thing regularly, but

it is very frustrating. I just have to be happy that I have lost 65

pounds so far...I cannot imagine where I would be without the surgery.

Second, congrats to all of you who are doing so well and reaching milestones.

I am so happy for you!

Anyway, the reason I am writing is that I have been reading alot about

folks having trouble with the protein shake and I can identify. The

first stuff I bought was so horrible that even thinking about it now

makes me want to gag. So I held off for awhile until I found the Vitalady.com

site. I strongly encourage all of you to check it out. She sells samples

so you can find one you like before you commit to purchasing a whole

bunch of it. My search was tough because I wanted one without artificial

sweetners or sugar. I found several options with Stevia and have now

purchased three different types that I can alternate.

They are low in carbs and low in sugar and each scoop is 27g protein.

I am serious...check it out now and get some samples. I admit I got

several I did not like, but did not have to buy a whole container before

I realized it.

Good luck all,

Mara

11/22/00

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>My doctor said I will be taking 1300 mg of aspirin every day for the

>rest of my life.

>Harold

Hi Harold - that's what I've been told too. :-)

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Penny-

Yes, this handout is a bit out of date. My source said

that Stratton is currently using a mino/zith/flagyl

combo. But I'd print out the stuff off of Wheldon's

site as Stratton has referred to Wheldon as

representing his treatment protocal. The only

difference in the US is using zithromax rather than

Rozithromicin as in Britain.

I'm going to try another email to Stratton at

Vanderbilt when I get back from out of town work, and

see if he is willing to update that handout with

current abx recommendations. See if I can enlist his

blessing for a consolidated Cpn website-- Yes, Bleu,

perhaps we could work together on this so the brain

fog might have less chance of getting both of us at

once on the technical side!

Yes, I was positive for Cpn and not for Lyme's, my

daughter just the opposite. I haven't had any

retesting yet to see my antigen levels.

In the as yet unpublished paper by Wheldon and

Stratton that Nelly referrred to, they talk about the

limitations of Cpn tests, that some with active

infection can test negative, and that herx-like

response to abx, especially to flagyl, may be a

post-hoc indicator that treating based on clinical

signs for Cpn is valid. Nelly- do you think you could

make a summary of this paper for us? It has some

useful thoughts in it.

Jim

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Penny-

Yes, this handout is a bit out of date. My source said

that Stratton is currently using a mino/zith/flagyl

combo. But I'd print out the stuff off of Wheldon's

site as Stratton has referred to Wheldon as

representing his treatment protocal. The only

difference in the US is using zithromax rather than

Rozithromicin as in Britain.

I'm going to try another email to Stratton at

Vanderbilt when I get back from out of town work, and

see if he is willing to update that handout with

current abx recommendations. See if I can enlist his

blessing for a consolidated Cpn website-- Yes, Bleu,

perhaps we could work together on this so the brain

fog might have less chance of getting both of us at

once on the technical side!

Yes, I was positive for Cpn and not for Lyme's, my

daughter just the opposite. I haven't had any

retesting yet to see my antigen levels.

In the as yet unpublished paper by Wheldon and

Stratton that Nelly referrred to, they talk about the

limitations of Cpn tests, that some with active

infection can test negative, and that herx-like

response to abx, especially to flagyl, may be a

post-hoc indicator that treating based on clinical

signs for Cpn is valid. Nelly- do you think you could

make a summary of this paper for us? It has some

useful thoughts in it.

Jim

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Yeah, it's these difficult to nail down bugs that really " bug " me. I

know c.pneumonia's going to be almost as bad as the lyme situation.

But might as well get tested for everything if insurance will pay,

and the stigma won't affect my docs opinion of my illness(I only

tell the ones who believe in the infectious angle).

In the mean time, this is why I really think culturing the toxic

organisms, like staph and pseudomonas, etc., that are easy to grow

and do lots of damage, is the smart way to go, ala Tony and Tarello.

I think if you can knock out a MRSA you're probably going to knock

out these other difficult bugs as well. At least that's what I've

seen, people who get over their chronic illnesses after MASSIVE abx

treatment (either very long term, or very high dose, in hospital).

penny

> Penny-

> Yes, this handout is a bit out of date. My source said

> that Stratton is currently using a mino/zith/flagyl

> combo. But I'd print out the stuff off of Wheldon's

> site as Stratton has referred to Wheldon as

> representing his treatment protocal. The only

> difference in the US is using zithromax rather than

> Rozithromicin as in Britain.

>

> I'm going to try another email to Stratton at

> Vanderbilt when I get back from out of town work, and

> see if he is willing to update that handout with

> current abx recommendations. See if I can enlist his

> blessing for a consolidated Cpn website-- Yes, Bleu,

> perhaps we could work together on this so the brain

> fog might have less chance of getting both of us at

> once on the technical side!

>

>

> Yes, I was positive for Cpn and not for Lyme's, my

> daughter just the opposite. I haven't had any

> retesting yet to see my antigen levels.

>

> In the as yet unpublished paper by Wheldon and

> Stratton that Nelly referrred to, they talk about the

> limitations of Cpn tests, that some with active

> infection can test negative, and that herx-like

> response to abx, especially to flagyl, may be a

> post-hoc indicator that treating based on clinical

> signs for Cpn is valid. Nelly- do you think you could

> make a summary of this paper for us? It has some

> useful thoughts in it.

>

> Jim

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Can you direct me to Wheldon's site? I would like to

print this out for my Doc too.

Marie

--- penny <pennyhoule@...> wrote:

> Yeah, it's these difficult to nail down bugs that

> really " bug " me. I

> know c.pneumonia's going to be almost as bad as the

> lyme situation.

> But might as well get tested for everything if

> insurance will pay,

> and the stigma won't affect my docs opinion of my

> illness(I only

> tell the ones who believe in the infectious angle).

>

> In the mean time, this is why I really think

> culturing the toxic

> organisms, like staph and pseudomonas, etc., that

> are easy to grow

> and do lots of damage, is the smart way to go, ala

> Tony and Tarello.

>

> I think if you can knock out a MRSA you're probably

> going to knock

> out these other difficult bugs as well. At least

> that's what I've

> seen, people who get over their chronic illnesses

> after MASSIVE abx

> treatment (either very long term, or very high dose,

> in hospital).

>

> penny

>

>

>

> > Penny-

> > Yes, this handout is a bit out of date. My source

> said

> > that Stratton is currently using a

> mino/zith/flagyl

> > combo. But I'd print out the stuff off of

> Wheldon's

> > site as Stratton has referred to Wheldon as

> > representing his treatment protocal. The only

> > difference in the US is using zithromax rather

> than

> > Rozithromicin as in Britain.

> >

> > I'm going to try another email to Stratton at

> > Vanderbilt when I get back from out of town work,

> and

> > see if he is willing to update that handout with

> > current abx recommendations. See if I can enlist

> his

> > blessing for a consolidated Cpn website-- Yes,

> Bleu,

> > perhaps we could work together on this so the

> brain

> > fog might have less chance of getting both of us

> at

> > once on the technical side!

> >

> >

> > Yes, I was positive for Cpn and not for Lyme's, my

> > daughter just the opposite. I haven't had any

> > retesting yet to see my antigen levels.

> >

> > In the as yet unpublished paper by Wheldon and

> > Stratton that Nelly referrred to, they talk about

> the

> > limitations of Cpn tests, that some with active

> > infection can test negative, and that herx-like

> > response to abx, especially to flagyl, may be a

> > post-hoc indicator that treating based on clinical

> > signs for Cpn is valid. Nelly- do you think you

> could

> > make a summary of this paper for us? It has some

> > useful thoughts in it.

> >

> > Jim

>

>

>

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Penny

My gut feeling is that people carry many bugs and when ill the

hospital unwiitingly treats more than they realise and the patient

recovers. An egs. of this is an old business acquaintance that would

need 5 to 10minutes to start moving after his back would fire up

with EXCRUCIATING pain. He developed something resmbling a serious

lifethreatening pleurasy which saw hime receive six weeeks of

megadose ABX and surprisingly this other age related back problem

has never reappeared.

> > Penny-

> > Yes, this handout is a bit out of date. My source said

> > that Stratton is currently using a mino/zith/flagyl

> > combo. But I'd print out the stuff off of Wheldon's

> > site as Stratton has referred to Wheldon as

> > representing his treatment protocal. The only

> > difference in the US is using zithromax rather than

> > Rozithromicin as in Britain.

> >

> > I'm going to try another email to Stratton at

> > Vanderbilt when I get back from out of town work, and

> > see if he is willing to update that handout with

> > current abx recommendations. See if I can enlist his

> > blessing for a consolidated Cpn website-- Yes, Bleu,

> > perhaps we could work together on this so the brain

> > fog might have less chance of getting both of us at

> > once on the technical side!

> >

> >

> > Yes, I was positive for Cpn and not for Lyme's, my

> > daughter just the opposite. I haven't had any

> > retesting yet to see my antigen levels.

> >

> > In the as yet unpublished paper by Wheldon and

> > Stratton that Nelly referrred to, they talk about the

> > limitations of Cpn tests, that some with active

> > infection can test negative, and that herx-like

> > response to abx, especially to flagyl, may be a

> > post-hoc indicator that treating based on clinical

> > signs for Cpn is valid. Nelly- do you think you could

> > make a summary of this paper for us? It has some

> > useful thoughts in it.

> >

> > Jim

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