re: Luann Coconut Oil - use of hexane and expensive natural organic foods

July 14, 2011

" ...I believe the chemical hexane effectively used in extracting remaining

coconut oil from the copra after the first extraction system ( mechanical

pressing) had been removed fully using effective and safe industrial techniques

( developed by competent oil chemists/chemical engineers and plant oil

scientist in the past long years)... "

Hi Professor Magat!

As a chemical engineer,my experience is that it is impossible to absolutely

remove any material added to a miscible mixture, moreso with hexane which has

strong chemical affinity with the coconut oil. But I think the real issue

really is wether the hexane residue in the coconut oil is significant or not.

The existing quality regulatory standard for coconut oil, as well as other

conventionally-processed food oils, does not stipulate a safe limit for hexane

residue. This is an issue that needs to be scientifically addressed now given

the higher awareness of consumers for safe foods, IMO.

" ...And many local and global groups had been advocating for years that the

only safe foods for healthy and longer life are only for natural or organic

foods. But if natural and organic foods are without additional costs (chemical

additions or fortifications), as well as no processing done, why are these

expensive foods ? "

In my observation, production processes that preserve nature or minimize

modification of nature are usually still more expensive than conventional

processes. For example a Virgin Coconut Oil production process can extract only

about 6 to 10% oil from the coconut fruit, while the RBD Coconut Oil production

process can extract about 12 to 15% oil from the coconut fruit using high heat

and chemicals.

Further, a conventional coconut farm infested with the notorious Brontispa

insects can be cured quickly and cheaply by injecting pesticide to the coconut

trunks. While an organic coconut farm will take a long time to recover from

the infestation and damage when using natural biological controls, like

releasing parasitoids to the farm, thus more expensive.

In the near future, and with continued consumer preference, organic and natural

foods reaching the markets will become cheaper, IMO.

I hope the above help.

Tony

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From: Severino Magat <sev_magat@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Thu, July 14, 2011 12:12:10 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Luann Coconut Oil

,

RBD (refined, bleached and deodorized) coconut oil form ( the only multipurpose

cooking/frying oil in the Philippines is generally extracted from coconut copra

which usually contain many unwanted biological and chemical materials as a

result of improper post havest handling and copra storage. Thus processing the

copra to coconut oil which is very safe and price-affordable as an edible

oil/cooking/frying oil purposes/applications. I understand the only way

(technology for decades) is to have it (copra) undergo or be subjected to to

the mentioned processes (RBD), hence the form of coconut oil we use for general

purposes in the Philippines.

I believe the chemical hexane effectively used in extracting remaining coconut

oil from the copra after the first extraction system ( mechanical pressing) had

been removed fully using effective and safe industrial techniques ( developed by

competent oil chemists/chemical engineers and plant oil scientist in the past

long years). As you take your holidays periodically in the Philippines, aside

from coconut many other edible oils (palm oil, canola, corn and others) are in

the market). These refined edible oils and fats are probably also RBD oils !

I'm now a senior citizen and I'm not aware of single death here in the country

due to taking of RBD coconut oil ! Are you ? Of course, if people would

like to use VIrgin coconut oil (VCO) for cooking/frying purposes, it is their

choice, but definitely, the world of natural.organic foods is not cheap. And

many local and global groups had been advocating for years that the only safe

foods for healthy and longer life are only for natural or organic foods. But if

natural and organic foods are without additional costs (chemical additions or

fortifications), as well as no processing done, why are these expensive foods ?

Regards,

Sev Magat

From: <@...>

Subject: Re: Luann Coconut Oil

Coconut Oil

Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 9:53 PM

LouAnn coconut oil is processed using hexane. It is an RBD oil. They say they

steam the oil to remove hexane but chances are there are residues left there.

>

> I currently have Nutiva, Tree of Life and Jarrow coconut oils, but this

evening

>I'm going to try frying some freshly caught bass, dredged in coconut flour, and

>it's going to be Walmart Louanna brand all the way. Who has $17 for a frying

>pan full of oil?

>

> Sidenote: another good way to get Amazon money is by simply dropping your

>spare change into a jar when you think about it. Coinstar machines ordinarily

>deduct a hefty 8%, but the machine will put 100% of your money onto an Amazon

>gift card. My pricey organic virgin coconut oil collection was therefore

>relatively painless--smile.

>

> Best,

> Candace

>

July 14, 2011

Hello,

I am also wondering about SWAD coconut oil - avail;able very reasonably from

a local Indian mkt...for cooking and more---it is nice and comes in a glass jar.

How does one find out the extraction methods used by these companies?...

Thanks in advance fore any info you are able to provide...

d

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From: AGPacific Nutriceutical <agnutriceutical@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Thu, July 14, 2011 7:54:55 AM

Subject: re: Luann Coconut Oil - use of hexane and

expensive natural organic foods