Night Sweats

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I didn't say it wasn't thyroid related - I said it wasn't IODINE related.

Re: night sweats

I have to disagree with Stefanye on this one, hot flashes/night sweats can definitely be thyroid related. Years ago when I decided to go to an Ob/gyn for prescribed hormones I didn't know this and wondered why my hot flashes only diminished but not disappeared, then shortly afterwards I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism (turned out to be Hashimoto's Thyroiditis) and at one time when I abruptly stopped my thyroid medication the hot flashes/night sweats intensified instantly even though I was still taking estrogen and progesterone.Eventually I was taken off thyroid med because my TSH was normal and I was OK with that because I actually felt better without it. A few years later I stopped the hormones too because my mother was diagnosed with breast cancer and I didn't think they were really helping much. Since then I've been bothered by the hot flashes in varying degrees. Once got back on estrogen plus a progesterone cream for about a year and it helped but the hot flashes didn't totally disappear.In '07 I did an iodine detox on my own, and had some severe reactions (felt like I was very hyper) but I weathered them with the salt flushes and at some point was feeling pretty good. I can't remember now how long I stayed at my highest dosage but it wasn't too long, probably 3 months and then started to cut back until I was on only 1 drop/day. I think it was due to the hot flashes/night sweats. Even now I can hardly tolerate taking iodine two or more days in a row, so for a good while it's been only 2-3 drops/week. Just 3 days ago I took just one vertical drop (6.25 mg) shortly before I went to bed and could hardly get any sleep because the night sweats were so close together. Not long ago my thyroid was acting up so maybe I'm more sensitive now, or my adrenals are depleted again. Either way I think I'm going to take a good break from iodine, I'm feeling hot all the time again and I need to see if there's any difference.I used to take DHEA (25 mg. tabs though, but in the end I just took half of one) because it helped with moods but I noticed that after a while it also made the hot flashes worse so I had to stop, this happened twice so it left me no doubt, so keep an eye on that.So, personally, I'd advise you to take a break from the iodine too and see if that makes a difference, and if so you may have to stay on a much lower amount.>> Hi all,I have been on 50mg of Iodoral and supporting nutrients for about> 1.5 years now. Last time I tested, about 4 months ago, my iodine> excretion was up to 86% but my bromide was still too high so I've> remained on 50mg of iodine to try to get it all out. Over the last 1.5> years I have seen improvement in some of my hypothyroid symptoms without> getting on thyroid hormones (that's a whole other long story)... In> the last 6-7 months, however, between ovulation and menstruation I have> been having night sweats. I get very dehydrated and exhausted from them.> I thought it must have to do with my female hormones getting out of> balance. I read that iodine decreases estrogen, which I felt was> happening since I also read that night sweats can be a low estrogen> symptom and also my breasts were shrinking! So I began taking a very low> dose of DHEA (2mg a day or every other day). This definitely made a> difference - my breasts came back but the night sweating remains. And I> temporarily stopped the DHEA because I felt my estrogen was now getting> too high (very painful and swelling breasts during PMS). I then got back> on Vitex to help balance progesterone because I read that low> progesterone can also cause night sweats (in the past Vitex helped my> PMS symptoms such as bloating, worsened constipation, and emotional> imbalance). But none of these things are helping the night sweats. So,> now I'm wondering if the night sweats are a result of my thyroid being> overstimulated. Could that cause night sweats? The weird part is that> one of my hypothyroid symptoms I saw improvements in over the months> (constipation) has been worse again over the past couple of weeks. I'm> so confused! I think I need to get some tests done, but in the meantime,> does anyone have any suggestions?> Thanks so much!Marlena>

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Hi Marlena,

I have struggled with the night sweats on occasion too. At the time, Dr. Brownstein did not think it was hormone related. He told me that he thought it was part of my detox symptoms. He tested where I was "at" with my detoxing and I still had a lot of that going on.

The last time I experienced this, he suggested I take vitamin E before bed. After several days of doing that, the night sweats stopped. Apparently it WAS hormonal (right?) if the vitamin E helped?

Best,

Glo

From: marlenaappletree <marlenaappletree@...>Subject: Re: night sweatsiodine Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 12:18 AM

I'm only 32 :-( >> How old are you? I don't think the iodine and night sweats are related. It sounds like you are experiencing menopause symptoms. Have you had your sex hormones checked? Also add pregnenolone, DHEA and FSH & LH to check.> > Steph> > > night sweats> > > > > > Hi all,> > I have been on 50mg of Iodoral and supporting nutrients for about 1.5 years now. Last time I tested, about 4 months ago, my iodine excretion was up to 86% but my bromide was still too high so I've remained on 50mg of iodine to try to get it all out. Over the last 1.5 years I have seen improvement in some of my hypothyroid

symptoms without getting on thyroid hormones (that's a whole other long story)... In the last 6-7 months, however, between ovulation and menstruation I have been having night sweats. I get very dehydrated and exhausted from them. I thought it must have to do with my female hormones getting out of balance. I read that iodine decreases estrogen, which I felt was happening since I also read that night sweats can be a low estrogen symptom and also my breasts were shrinking! So I began taking a very low dose of DHEA (2mg a day or every other day). This definitely made a difference - my breasts came back but the night sweating remains. And I temporarily stopped the DHEA because I felt my estrogen was now getting too high (very painful and swelling breasts during PMS). I then got back on Vitex to help balance progesterone because I read that low progesterone can also cause night sweats (in the past Vitex helped my PMS symptoms such as bloating, worsened

constipation, and emotional imbalance). But none of these things are helping the night sweats. So, now I'm wondering if the night sweats are a result of my thyroid being overstimulated. Could that cause night sweats? The weird part is that one of my hypothyroid symptoms I saw improvements in over the months (constipation) has been worse again over the past couple of weeks. I'm so confused! I think I need to get some tests done, but in the meantime, does anyone have any suggestions?> > > Thanks so much!> Marlena>

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>>Just

3 days ago I took just one vertical drop (6.25 mg) shortly before I went to bed

and could hardly get any sleep because the night sweats were so close together.

<<

This caught my eye. Most in this group would tell you NOT to

take the iodine before bed as it does stimulate your body. Take it anytime up

to and around noon to let the stimulating effects work for you by giving you

daytime energy. The fact that you are taking it at bedtime may be stimulating

the night sweats.

Donna in IL

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Hi, New here (as of yesterday) and still reading and catching up.Night sweats are a big deal for me and started taking Liquid Kelp 3 days ago. So far so good. They have abated dramatically but not totally. I take it first thing in the morning.I can not take or try a lot of different things because my BC was estrogen feed. I have tried Vitamin E before bed for more than a couple of months with no relief at all. My TCM acupuncturist told me to stop Vitamin E before bed because it increases your circulation, therefore warms the blood and body.Relieving night sweats in a safe non-hormonal way has become a second job for me! KarinOn May 31, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Glory wrote:Hi Marlena, I have struggled with the night sweats on occasion too. At the time, Dr. Brownstein did not think it was hormone related. He told me that he thought it was part of my detox symptoms. He tested where I was "at" with my detoxing and I still had a lot of that going on. The last time I experienced this, he suggested I take vitamin E before bed. After several days of doing that, the night sweats stopped. Apparently it WAS hormonal (right?) if the vitamin E helped? Best,Glo

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Sounds like perimenopause to me. I take a product called ProFema which has eliminated the symptoms I was having...nightsweats, mood swings, the whole bit. I swear by that product. Tressler Healthy Transitions Life Coaching 541-791-1464 Help raise funds for Legacy Land Conservancy by searching the internet or shoping online with GoodSearch (www.goodsearch.com).

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32 is not too young for perimenopausal symptoms. Get to a doc and have them do a FULL hormone panel. They will want to just check estrogen or just check.....whatever that particular doc thinks is relevant. Have them check them ALL....and then look at them all in relation to each other. I've known women as young as early 20's start going through perimenopause and you want a good picture of what is going on so you can address it properly. It is a myth that it only happens in the 40's and 50's. I've also seen women as old as 63 going through it.... The range is wide.... Tressler Healthy Transitions Life Coaching 541-791-1464 Help raise funds for Legacy Land Conservancy by searching the internet or shoping online with GoodSearch

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Thank you for all the responses! It helps my morale! I agree that I need to get new tests done - iodine, bromide, thyroid, adrenals, and all the female hormones (my mother didn't go through menopause symptoms until 50 or so but that doesn't mean I won't). I will do these tests as soon as I am able. If I learn anything interesting I'll post about it. In the meantime I am going to experiment with reducing my iodine for a few days to see if this makes a difference... I've been on a gluten free diet for almost a year so don't think gluten is causing the sweats... I will give Vit E before bed a try and see if that helps... I take lots of magnesium so I don't think I need more... I'm also going to lay off the DHEA until I know what's going on... One thing I noticed last night was that I didn't have any sweats for most of the night (after reducing my iodine so I thought, maybe my thyroid is getting over-stimulated and that is the cause) but then I did have a bad sweat right before I woke up in the morning which went along with a very upsetting dream where I was angry. When we are dreaming, is it normal for the  sympathetic nervous system to respond to emotions the same way as when we are awake?? Does this point to my adrenals? I feel my adrenals need help but whenever I take any adrenal support (Metagenics Adrenogen, for instance) I have insomnia... so don't know what to do about that...Thanks again,Marlena> > >> > Hi all,I have been on 50mg of Iodoral and supporting nutrients for about> > 1.5 years now. Last time I tested, about 4 months ago, my iodine> > excretion was up to 86% but my bromide was still too high so I've> > remained on 50mg of iodine to try to get it all out. Over the last 1.5> > years I have seen improvement in some of my hypothyroid symptoms without> > getting on thyroid hormones (that's a whole other long story)... In> > the last 6-7 months, however, between ovulation and menstruation I have> > been having night sweats. I get very dehydrated and exhausted from them.> > I thought it must have to do with my female hormones getting out of> > balance. I read that iodine decreases estrogen, which I felt was> > happening since I also read that night sweats can be a low estrogen> > symptom and also my breasts were shrinking! So I began taking a very low> > dose of DHEA (2mg a day or every other day). This definitely made a> > difference - my breasts came back but the night sweating remains. And I> > temporarily stopped the DHEA because I felt my estrogen was now getting> > too high (very painful and swelling breasts during PMS). I then got back> > on Vitex to help balance progesterone because I read that low> > progesterone can also cause night sweats (in the past Vitex helped my> > PMS symptoms such as bloating, worsened constipation, and emotional> > imbalance). But none of these things are helping the night sweats. So,> > now I'm wondering if the night sweats are a result of my thyroid being> > overstimulated. Could that cause night sweats? The weird part is that> > one of my hypothyroid symptoms I saw improvements in over the months> > (constipation) has been worse again over the past couple of weeks. I'm> > so confused! I think I need to get some tests done, but in the meantime,> > does anyone have any suggestions?> > Thanks so much!Marlena> >>

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You might want to read Dr. Lee's book

What your dr. won't tell you about menopause. Early peri-menopause and menopause is common now because of all the toxic zeno estrogen chemicals. Synthetic estrogens muck up the endocrine system big time.

You want to have all your hormones checked by someone who knows bio-identical hormones well. You might want to read Dr. Brownstein's book on Hormones. It is very informative.

Good luck.Nonie

Thank you for all the responses! It helps my morale! I agree that I need to get new tests done - iodine, bromide, thyroid, adrenals, and all the female hormones (my mother didn't go through menopause symptoms until 50 or so but that doesn't mean I won't). I will do these tests as soon as I am able. If I learn anything interesting I'll post about it. In the meantime I am going to experiment with reducing my iodine for a few days to see if this makes a difference... I've been on a gluten free diet for almost a year so don't think gluten is causing the sweats... I will give Vit E before bed a try and see if that helps... I take lots of magnesium so I don't think I need more... I'm also going to lay off the DHEA until I know what's going on...

One thing I noticed last night was that I didn't have any sweats for most of the night (after reducing my iodine so I thought, maybe my thyroid is getting over-stimulated and that is the cause) but then I did have a bad sweat right before I woke up in the morning which went along with a very upsetting dream where I was angry. When we are dreaming, is it normal for the sympathetic nervous system to respond to emotions the same way as when we are awake?? Does this point to my adrenals? I feel my adrenals need help but whenever I take any adrenal support (Metagenics Adrenogen, for instance) I have insomnia... so don't know what to do about that...

Thanks again,

Marlena

> > >> > Hi all,I have been on 50mg of Iodoral and supporting nutrients for about> > 1.5 years now. Last time I tested, about 4 months ago, my iodine> > excretion was up to 86% but my bromide was still too high so I've> > remained on 50mg of iodine to try to get it all out. Over the last 1.5> > years I have seen improvement in some of my hypothyroid symptoms without> > getting on thyroid hormones (that's a whole other long story)... In> > the last 6-7 months, however, between ovulation and menstruation I have> > been having night sweats. I get very dehydrated and exhausted from them.> > I thought it must have to do with my female hormones getting out of> > balance. I read that iodine decreases estrogen, which I felt was> > happening since I also read that night sweats can be a low estrogen> > symptom and also my breasts were shrinking! So I began taking a very low> > dose of DHEA (2mg a day or every other day). This definitely made a> > difference - my breasts came back but the night sweating remains. And I> > temporarily stopped the DHEA because I felt my estrogen was now getting> > too high (very painful and swelling breasts during PMS). I then got back> > on Vitex to help balance progesterone because I read that low> > progesterone can also cause night sweats (in the past Vitex helped my> > PMS symptoms such as bloating, worsened constipation, and emotional> > imbalance). But none of these things are helping the night sweats. So,> > now I'm wondering if the night sweats are a result of my thyroid being> > overstimulated. Could that cause night sweats? The weird part is that> > one of my hypothyroid symptoms I saw improvements in over the months> > (constipation) has been worse again over the past couple of weeks. I'm> > so confused! I think I need to get some tests done, but in the meantime,> > does anyone have any suggestions?> > Thanks so much!Marlena> >>

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In a message dated 5/31/2009 9:17:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kbussman@... writes:

Relieving night sweats in a safe non-hormonal way has become a second job for me!

...try four tablespoons flax seed ground every day. It worked for me and I too was BC positive. Be sure to grind them fresh each time.

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Ok, you maybe you didn't say it but Marlena mentioned that maybe her thyroid is being overstimulated and my point was that it probably is. Dr. Brownstein and you may disagree but I'm sure that is what's happening with me. Even though iodine supplementation above the MDR has made sense to me since I began reading about iodine, and I "get" the bromide problem, I personally cannot believe that taking high amounts of iodine for a prolonged time can be totally harmless, at least not for everyone. I believe the same regarding any other nutrient, there is a balanced that needs to be maintained and even the "companion" nutrients cannot possibly cover everything. Let's not forget that research on iodine, or at least this recent "wave", is rather recent and there's still much to learn. Also, there's no telling what could have already been happening inside anyone's body prior to taking iodine, the tests I hear are given cannot possibly cover every single possibility. So my stand after 2 years of reading all I can find about iodine is that moderation still makes good sense.> >> > Hi all,I have been on 50mg of Iodoral and supporting nutrients for about> > 1.5 years now. Last time I tested, about 4 months ago, my iodine> > excretion was up to 86% but my bromide was still too high so I've> > remained on 50mg of iodine to try to get it all out. Over the last 1.5> > years I have seen improvement in some of my hypothyroid symptoms without> > getting on thyroid hormones (that's a whole other long story)... In> > the last 6-7 months, however, between ovulation and menstruation I have> > been having night sweats. I get very dehydrated and exhausted from them.> > I thought it must have to do with my female hormones getting out of> > balance. I read that iodine decreases estrogen, which I felt was> > happening since I also read that night sweats can be a low estrogen> > symptom and also my breasts were shrinking! So I began taking a very low> > dose of DHEA (2mg a day or every other day). This definitely made a> > difference - my breasts came back but the night sweating remains. And I> > temporarily stopped the DHEA because I felt my estrogen was now getting> > too high (very painful and swelling breasts during PMS). I then got back> > on Vitex to help balance progesterone because I read that low> > progesterone can also cause night sweats (in the past Vitex helped my> > PMS symptoms such as bloating, worsened constipation, and emotional> > imbalance). But none of these things are helping the night sweats. So,> > now I'm wondering if the night sweats are a result of my thyroid being> > overstimulated. Could that cause night sweats? The weird part is that> > one of my hypothyroid symptoms I saw improvements in over the months> > (constipation) has been worse again over the past couple of weeks. I'm> > so confused! I think I need to get some tests done, but in the meantime,> > does anyone have any suggestions?> > Thanks so much!Marlena> >>

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Thanks for your input but that was a rare time I made an exception as for a long time now I've been taking it shortly after I get up, yet it has intensified my hot flashes regardless, that instance was simply much worse. When I began taking Lugol's in '06, according to Dr. Jarvis recommendations, I'd often take it at night because it actually helped me sleep better, just like he said it would. It was after the "massive" amounts that something happened to me and I really can't handle it as well anymore, regardless of time of the day.Raquel>> >>Just 3 days ago I took just one vertical drop (6.25 mg) shortly before> I went to bed and could hardly get any sleep because the night sweats> were so close together. <<> > This caught my eye. Most in this group would tell you NOT to take the> iodine before bed as it does stimulate your body. Take it anytime up to> and around noon to let the stimulating effects work for you by giving> you daytime energy. The fact that you are taking it at bedtime may be> stimulating the night sweats.> > > > Donna in IL>

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I've had to reduce my Iodoral since I began in February but I consider that to be a good thing because I think when I began taking it my body was not using most of what I took and as time has passed my body has finally kicked into gear and sent out the message to uptake the Iodine so as that has happened the bromide has been getting kicked off the iodine receptors giving me worse and worse detox effect. So I take the need to temporarily lower the dose as a sign that my body is doing what it is supposed to be doing with the iodine now. I also take into consideration I have a long standing issue with candida and Iodine is antifungal so in addition to bromide, fluoride and possible mercury detoxing it can cause you to have a fungal die off (herxheimer reaction) just like any other antifungal which may be the reason some people need to take it a little slower because detoxing bromide and experiencing herx are bad enough by themselves but together they can get pretty nasty. In fact when I was taking 50 mg I found it to be the best antifungal I have come across in 20 years of trying everything made for candida, even while not watching my diet very carefully. I am used to a certain level of herx reaction so I was ok with that until the bromide detox really hit with it but I expect I will be able to push the dose back up and will simply listen to my body and probably try the pulse dosing that Steph has mentioned of 5 days on a higher dose two days off if I need to, to push through it.

Ultimately we all have to learn to listen to our own bodies but also with the understanding that a reaction that doesn't make you feel good is not necessarily a bad reaction. Weather it is getting rid of toxins or killing fungus sometimes the process just sucks. I think when your body has reached that level of being out of balance there will never be a way back to balance that will not include some unpleasant phases.

Engtovo

Re: night sweats

Posted by: "latinainwpb2" latinainwpb2@... latinainwpb2

Mon Jun 1, 2009 12:43 am (PDT)

Thanks for your input but that was a rare time I made an exception asfor a long time now I've been taking it shortly after I get up, yet ithas intensified my hot flashes regardless, that instance was simply muchworse. When I began taking Lugol's in '06, according to Dr. Jarvisrecommendations, I'd often take it at night because it actually helpedme sleep better, just like he said it would. It was after the "massive"amounts that something happened to me and I really can't handle it aswell anymore, regardless of time of the day.Raquel>> >>Just 3 days ago I took just one vertical drop (6.25 mg) shortlybefore> I went to bed and could hardly get any sleep because the night sweats> were so close together. <<>> This caught my eye. Most in this group would tell you NOT to take the> iodine before bed as it does stimulate your body. Take it anytime upto> and around noon to let the stimulating effects work for you by giving> you daytime energy. The fact that you are taking it at bedtime may be> stimulating the night sweats.>>>> Donna in IL

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-this is the most solid advice i have read. That is so true when your body has

been in such a place of imbalance for so long, we are not going to get through

balancing our bodies(everyones journey is different) without some uncomfortable,

terrible times. Sometimes we get a little worse before we get better. In my case

i am 46 yrs young i have been ina state of imbalance for probably over 20 yrs. I

have to expect some uncomfortable times during this process of " re-balancing " my

body. It sucks, but is part of the process. I have had terrible swests/chills

24/7 for well over a yr. they are better since working on adrenals ,they started

getting a little worse againso either thyroid med. needs to be changed,my body

needs to gt used to cortef I just started or,i am definately peri-menipausal and

I am having some estrogen issues. Just have to ride one thing through at a time.

then re-evaluate. but, i do think alot of the sweat issues are thyroid related

and sex hormone related.We all can agree it is a very complicated issue-the

human body in itself is so complicated. Be patient! that is one of the most

important things I have learned,and sleep w/a really good ice pack!

Good luck,

michelle

-- In iodine , " Engtovo " <engtovo@...> wrote:

>

> I've had to reduce my Iodoral since I began in February but I consider that to

be a good thing because I think when I began taking it my body was not using

most of what I took and as time has passed my body has finally kicked into gear

and sent out the message to uptake the Iodine so as that has happened the

bromide has been getting kicked off the iodine receptors giving me worse and

worse detox effect. So I take the need to temporarily lower the dose as a sign

that my body is doing what it is supposed to be doing with the iodine now. I

also take into consideration I have a long standing issue with candida and

Iodine is antifungal so in addition to bromide, fluoride and possible mercury

detoxing it can cause you to have a fungal die off (herxheimer reaction) just

like any other antifungal which may be the reason some people need to take it a

little slower because detoxing bromide and experiencing herx are bad enough by

themselves but together they can get pretty nasty. In fact when I was taking 50

mg I found it to be the best antifungal I have come across in 20 years of trying

everything made for candida, even while not watching my diet very carefully. I

am used to a certain level of herx reaction so I was ok with that until the

bromide detox really hit with it but I expect I will be able to push the dose

back up and will simply listen to my body and probably try the pulse dosing that

Steph has mentioned of 5 days on a higher dose two days off if I need to, to

push through it.

>

> Ultimately we all have to learn to listen to our own bodies but also with the

understanding that a reaction that doesn't make you feel good is not necessarily

a bad reaction. Weather it is getting rid of toxins or killing fungus sometimes

the process just sucks. I think when your body has reached that level of being

out of balance there will never be a way back to balance that will not include

some unpleasant phases.

>

> Engtovo

>

>

> Re: night sweats

> Posted by: " latinainwpb2 " latinainwpb2@... latinainwpb2

> Mon Jun 1, 2009 12:43 am (PDT)

>

>

> Thanks for your input but that was a rare time I made an exception as

> for a long time now I've been taking it shortly after I get up, yet it

> has intensified my hot flashes regardless, that instance was simply much

> worse. When I began taking Lugol's in '06, according to Dr. Jarvis

> recommendations, I'd often take it at night because it actually helped

> me sleep better, just like he said it would. It was after the " massive "

> amounts that something happened to me and I really can't handle it as

> well anymore, regardless of time of the day.

>

> Raquel

>

>

> >

> > >>Just 3 days ago I took just one vertical drop (6.25 mg) shortly

> before

> > I went to bed and could hardly get any sleep because the night sweats

> > were so close together. <<

> >

> > This caught my eye. Most in this group would tell you NOT to take the

> > iodine before bed as it does stimulate your body. Take it anytime up

> to

> > and around noon to let the stimulating effects work for you by giving

> > you daytime energy. The fact that you are taking it at bedtime may be

> > stimulating the night sweats.

> >

> >

> >

> > Donna in IL

>

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will iodine lower RT3 levels??

>

> I've had to reduce my Iodoral since I began in February but I consider that to be a good thing because I think when I began taking it my body was not using most of what I took and as time has passed my body has finally kicked into gear and sent out the message to uptake the Iodine so as that has happened the bromide has been getting kicked off the iodine receptors giving me worse and worse detox effect. So I take the need to temporarily lower the dose as a sign that my body is doing what it is supposed to be doing with the iodine now. I also take into consideration I have a long standing issue with candida and Iodine is antifungal so in addition to bromide, fluoride and possible mercury detoxing it can cause you to have a fungal die off (herxheimer reaction) just like any other antifungal which may be the reason some people need to take it a little slower because detoxing bromide and experiencing herx are bad enough by themselves but together they

can get pretty nasty. In fact when I was taking 50 mg I found it to be the best antifungal I have come across in 20 years of trying everything made for candida, even while not watching my diet very carefully. I am used to a certain level of herx reaction so I was ok with that until the bromide detox really hit with it but I expect I will be able to push the dose back up and will simply listen to my body and probably try the pulse dosing that Steph has mentioned of 5 days on a higher dose two days off if I need to, to push through it.

>

> Ultimately we all have to learn to listen to our own bodies but also with the understanding that a reaction that doesn't make you feel good is not necessarily a bad reaction. Weather it is getting rid of toxins or killing fungus sometimes the process just sucks. I think when your body has reached that level of being out of balance there will never be a way back to balance that will not include some unpleasant phases.

>

> Engtovo

>

>

> Re: night sweats

> Posted by: "latinainwpb2" latinainwpb2@ ... latinainwpb2

> Mon Jun 1, 2009 12:43 am (PDT)

>

>

> Thanks for your input but that was a rare time I made an exception as

> for a long time now I've been taking it shortly after I get up, yet it

> has intensified my hot flashes regardless, that instance was simply much

> worse. When I began taking Lugol's in '06, according to Dr. Jarvis

> recommendations, I'd often take it at night because it actually helped

> me sleep better, just like he said it would. It was after the "massive"

> amounts that something happened to me and I really can't handle it as

> well anymore, regardless of time of the day.

>

> Raquel

>

>

> >

> > >>Just 3 days ago I took just one vertical drop (6.25 mg) shortly

> before

> > I went to bed and could hardly get any sleep because the night sweats

> > were so close together. <<

> >

> > This caught my eye. Most in this group would tell you NOT to take the

> > iodine before bed as it does stimulate your body. Take it anytime up

> to

> > and around noon to let the stimulating effects work for you by giving

> > you daytime energy. The fact that you are taking it at bedtime may be

> > stimulating the night sweats.

> >

> >

> >

> > Donna in IL

>

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I was just reading that night sweats and frequent urination (which I have also been having at night - together causing bad dehydration) can be a sign of hyperthyroidism. So I am definitely going to reduce my dosage of iodine and see how it goes (I will also get tests asap). Originally I chose to see if iodine would take care of my hypothyroid symptoms (without taking Armour) and it has made a huge difference over time, so I don't think it's out of the question that my thyroid could get a little too stimulated once I reach saturation level or above, which I believe I have since my iodine excretion 4 months ago was 86% and my tests over the 1.5 years on 50mg of iodine have shown steady progress... A month or so ago I was having other overstimulation symptoms such as tremors, palpitations, and feeling sped up in general. I also lost about 10 lbs or more over the last several months even though I didn't need to, to begin with, and was starting to feel a little on the skinny side (great news for those of you who have hypothyroid weight gain - the iodine definitely makes a difference in my experience, but it takes time and I went through some weight gain during part of my initial detox phase). Anyway, at that point I reduced my iodine a bit and those symptoms subsided. Unfortunately my breathing and constipation, which have definitely improved from iodine, seemed to not be as good on the lower dose, so I went back up to 50mg. This is the kind of thing that can be sooooo confusing! But I will see if the same thing happens this time on the reduced iodine dosage.  It's interesting that the night sweats have happened mostly before or during my period, which would seemingly indicate low estrogen or progesterone or some other female hormone imbalance. However I happen to believe that my estrogen was too high this month due to the DHEA I was taking and the clearly high estrogen PMS symptoms I had this month, such as swelling painful breasts. I was also taking Vitex, which previoulsy resolved my low progesterone PMS symptoms - but that wasn't touching the night sweats. Then it occurred to me that since the temperature rises between ovulation and menstruation (I keep track of my basal temps and have been ovulating regularly), that slight rise along with the the slight thyroid overstimulation could be causing the night sweats at this time of the month particularly, as opposed to periomenopause happening (though I understand it is possible at 32)... Just trying to put it all together. Thanks for all the past and future feedback,Marlena> >> > I didn't say it wasn't thyroid related - I said it wasn't IODINE> related.> >> > > >> >

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I used to have yucky night sweats only not nearly as bad as your husband. I'm

still on W & W after 2.5 years. Can't remember where I found this - one of the

forums - but I made sage tea by putting it out in the sun in a mason jar (easy

here in SoCal) and then keeping it cold in the frig. I'd take some when

necessary (tastes yucky, but I was desperate and got used to it) and it worked

like a charm. Just a suggestion. Be sure and drink it cold - warm doesn't work

and who wants it warm when you're sweating anyway!

>

> My husband was diagnosed 2 3/4 years ago and is suppose to start FC (1st

treatment) followed by FCR (next 5)in 3 weeks. His spleen and lymph nodes are

extremely large, but this past week the night sweats have been unbearable

(changing sheets and pajamas 5 times a night). We are considering requesting to

start this week and wondering how soon after initial treatment does someone

start to feel better (night sweats go away and lymph nodes start to shrink).

> Thanks,

>

> ( diagnosed at age 46 March/07, unmutated)

>

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Nursing depletes the mom of iodine and is critical for baby's brain development.

Taking iodine is good but kelp could have arsenic in it which wouldn't be good

for your baby.

Body temperature has everything to do with the thyroid. I think night sweats

are adrenals. I thought it was Hashi's when one took too much iodine not when

one decreased the dose.

Joan

>

> I'm not sure if anyone has posted about this...?

>

> I've been taking iodine in the form of kelp for a number of months now

> and just recently cut it back to only the equivalent of a couple of

> mgs of iodine a day... Was getting a bit worried because I am

> breastfeeding and didn't want to cause my daughter a problem.

>

> In the last few days, I've started to have terrible night sweats not

> related to heat (we have air conditioning... and are using it because

> of the baby). My head and hair and upper body are soaking in the

> morning. Could this have something to do with my thyroid? Should I up

> my iodine dose again in order to get my body temp under control? Is my

> body temp being off even related to my thyroid?

>

> Any suggestions or thoughts?

>

> best regards,

>

[Guest guest]

How much iodine would you give a week old infant?

Bethann

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again

and expecting different results.

Albert Einstein

coloredoctave wrote:

>

>

> Nursing depletes the mom of iodine and is critical for baby's brain

> development. Taking iodine is good but kelp could have arsenic in it

> which wouldn't be good for your baby.

>

> Body temperature has everything to do with the thyroid. I think night

> sweats are adrenals. I thought it was Hashi's when one took too much

> iodine not when one decreased the dose.

>

> Joan

>

>

> >

> > I'm not sure if anyone has posted about this...?

> >

> > I've been taking iodine in the form of kelp for a number of months now

> > and just recently cut it back to only the equivalent of a couple of

> > mgs of iodine a day... Was getting a bit worried because I am

> > breastfeeding and didn't want to cause my daughter a problem.

> >

> > In the last few days, I've started to have terrible night sweats not

> > related to heat (we have air conditioning. .. and are using it because

> > of the baby). My head and hair and upper body are soaking in the

> > morning. Could this have something to do with my thyroid? Should I up

> > my iodine dose again in order to get my body temp under control? Is my

> > body temp being off even related to my thyroid?

> >

> > Any suggestions or thoughts?

> >

> > best regards,

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Night sweats. I sweat 24/7. Especially when I get out of the shower, I can't dry off for nothing. Then I put clothes on, more sweating. Then I bundle up to go outside and walk. More sweating. Saturated. It doesn't smell, thank God. But being wet causes me to be chilled because of the cold weather. I'm starting to think my cortisol levels are too high. I don't sleep but maybe 2 to 3 hours a night and this is driving me crazy, literally. And I've got a stupid GP that keeps telling me it is menopause, deal with it. When I take 1/2 of iodoral I sweat 50 times more so today I didn't take it. I only sweat for awhile after my shower but this is getting ridiculous. I'm at a lost in what to do. I know I'm full of toxins and they are sweating out but this is just too much for me. I'm hot and cold all day

long when I take the iodoral.Any suggestions? I have 2 meds that I am on that I have tot take if I want to walk and the other is for nerve damage because I refused spine surgery for so long before I actually went through with it but now regret it but I couldn't walk at the time so I basically had to have the surgery. Taking care of 4 children is no easy feat when you can't walk and I had a baby that I had to carry at the time.I'm at a lost now in what I should do. from Illinois From: coloredoctave

<joanlulich@...>iodine Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 1:01:46 PMSubject: Re: night sweats

Nursing depletes the mom of iodine and is critical for baby's brain development. Taking iodine is good but kelp could have arsenic in it which wouldn't be good for your baby.

Body temperature has everything to do with the thyroid. I think night sweats are adrenals. I thought it was Hashi's when one took too much iodine not when one decreased the dose.

Joan

>

> I'm not sure if anyone has posted about this...?

>

> I've been taking iodine in the form of kelp for a number of months now

> and just recently cut it back to only the equivalent of a couple of

> mgs of iodine a day... Was getting a bit worried because I am

> breastfeeding and didn't want to cause my daughter a problem.

>

> In the last few days, I've started to have terrible night sweats not

> related to heat (we have air conditioning. .. and are using it because

> of the baby). My head and hair and upper body are soaking in the

> morning. Could this have something to do with my thyroid? Should I up

> my iodine dose again in order to get my body temp under control? Is my

> body temp being off even related to my thyroid?

>

> Any suggestions or thoughts?

>

> best regards,

>

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I wouldn't, nor make major changes in the mother's intake when nursing.

Bruce

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From: " YardBirdMail " <yardbirdmail@...>

> How much iodine would you give a week old infant?

>

> Bethann

[Guest guest]

i dont know the answer to your question but i do know that i had some night sweats when i was nursing my 5 kids....so i wonder if it is not hormonal ...mine went away over time and completely when i finished nursing..

From: coloredoctave <joanlulich@...>Subject: Re: night sweatsiodine Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 1:01 PM

Nursing depletes the mom of iodine and is critical for baby's brain development. Taking iodine is good but kelp could have arsenic in it which wouldn't be good for your baby. Body temperature has everything to do with the thyroid. I think night sweats are adrenals. I thought it was Hashi's when one took too much iodine not when one decreased the dose.Joan>> I'm not sure if anyone has posted about this...?> > I've been taking iodine in the form of kelp for a number of months now> and just recently cut it back to only the equivalent of a couple of> mgs of iodine a day... Was getting a bit worried because I am> breastfeeding and didn't want to cause my

daughter a problem.> > In the last few days, I've started to have terrible night sweats not> related to heat (we have air conditioning. .. and are using it because> of the baby). My head and hair and upper body are soaking in the> morning. Could this have something to do with my thyroid? Should I up> my iodine dose again in order to get my body temp under control? Is my> body temp being off even related to my thyroid? > > Any suggestions or thoughts? > > best regards, >

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I had night sweats briefly, right after delivery, when my hormones were shifting gears, so I would concur with the possibility that hormones could be involved.AnneOn Jan 15, 2010, at 11:34 AM, dawn volz wrote: i dont know the answer to your question but i do know that i had some night sweats when i was nursing my 5 kids....so i wonder if it is not hormonal ...mine went away over time and completely when i finished nursing.. From: coloredoctave <joanlulich >Subject: Re: night sweatsiodine Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 1:01 PM Nursing depletes the mom of iodine and is critical for baby's brain development. Taking iodine is good but kelp could have arsenic in it which wouldn't be good for your baby. Body temperature has everything to do with the thyroid. I think night sweats are adrenals. I thought it was Hashi's when one took too much iodine not when one decreased the dose.Joan>> I'm not sure if anyone has posted about this...?> > I've been taking iodine in the form of kelp for a number of months now> and just recently cut it back to only the equivalent of a couple of> mgs of iodine a day... Was getting a bit worried because I am> breastfeeding and didn't want to cause my daughter a problem.> > In the last few days, I've started to have terrible night sweats not> related to heat (we have air conditioning. .. and are using it because> of the baby). My head and hair and upper body are soaking in the> morning. Could this have something to do with my thyroid? Should I up> my iodine dose again in order to get my body temp under control? Is my> body temp being off even related to my thyroid? > > Any suggestions or thoughts? > > best regards, >

[Guest guest]

Dr Brownstein suggests salt in water as an aid to sleeping in his book Salt, Your Way to Health.1 large pinch of salt with a small amount of water.

From: ND <blessedark2009@...>Subject: Re: Re: night sweatsiodine Date: Friday, 15 January, 2010, 19:29

Night sweats. I sweat 24/7. Especially when I get out of the shower, I can't dry off for nothing. Then I put clothes on, more sweating. Then I bundle up to go outside and walk. More sweating. Saturated. It doesn't smell, thank God. But being wet causes me to be chilled because of the cold weather. I'm starting to think my cortisol levels are too high. I don't sleep but maybe 2 to 3 hours a night and this is driving me crazy, literally. And I've got a stupid GP that keeps telling me it is menopause, deal with it. When I take 1/2 of iodoral I sweat 50 times more so today I didn't take it. I only sweat for awhile after my shower but this is getting ridiculous. I'm at a lost in what to do. I know I'm full of toxins and they are sweating out but this is just too much for me. I'm hot and cold all day long when I take the iodoral.Any suggestions? I have 2 meds that I am on

that I have tot take if I want to walk and the other is for nerve damage because I refused spine surgery for so long before I actually went through with it but now regret it but I couldn't walk at the time so I basically had to have the surgery. Taking care of 4 children is no easy feat when you can't walk and I had a baby that I had to carry at the time.I'm at a lost now in what I should do.

from Illinois

From: coloredoctave <joanlulich (DOT) com>iodinegroups (DOT) comSent: Fri, January 15, 2010 1:01:46 PMSubject: Re: night sweats

Nursing depletes the mom of iodine and is critical for baby's brain development. Taking iodine is good but kelp could have arsenic in it which wouldn't be good for your baby. Body temperature has everything to do with the thyroid. I think night sweats are adrenals. I thought it was Hashi's when one took too much iodine not when one decreased the dose.Joan>> I'm not sure if anyone has posted about this...?> > I've been taking iodine in the form of kelp for a number of months now> and just recently cut it back to only the equivalent of a couple of> mgs of iodine a day... Was getting a bit worried because I am> breastfeeding and didn't want to cause my

daughter a problem.> > In the last few days, I've started to have terrible night sweats not> related to heat (we have air conditioning. .. and are using it because> of the baby). My head and hair and upper body are soaking in the> morning. Could this have something to do with my thyroid? Should I up> my iodine dose again in order to get my body temp under control? Is my> body temp being off even related to my thyroid? > > Any suggestions or thoughts? > > best regards, >

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this site has some lethal things to do on it. do you not have a specialist that can answer questions. everyone has different conditions and history and symptoms and you all post things here that can be potentially lethal to people. i am going to unsubscribe and get rid of these emails that keep filling my inbox. EVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT GENES AND ILLNESSES FROM MERCURY TO INFECTIONS AND PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THERE IS NO MAGICAL CURE BELIVE ME I KNOW. PLEASE GET A LIFE AND STOP THIS AND USE SITE FOR WHAT IT IS MEANT FOR.,

From: david kenna

Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 8:28 PM

iodine

Subject: Re: Re: night sweats

Dr Brownstein suggests salt in water as an aid to sleeping in his book Salt, Your Way to Health.1 large pinch of salt with a small amount of water.

From: ND <blessedark2009att (DOT) net>Subject: Re: Re: night sweatsiodine Date: Friday, 15 January, 2010, 19:29

Night sweats. I sweat 24/7. Especially when I get out of the shower, I can't dry off for nothing. Then I put clothes on, more sweating. Then I bundle up to go outside and walk. More sweating. Saturated. It doesn't smell, thank God. But being wet causes me to be chilled because of the cold weather. I'm starting to think my cortisol levels are too high. I don't sleep but maybe 2 to 3 hours a night and this is driving me crazy, literally. And I've got a stupid GP that keeps telling me it is menopause, deal with it. When I take 1/2 of iodoral I sweat 50 times more so today I didn't take it. I only sweat for awhile after my shower but this is getting ridiculous. I'm at a lost in what to do. I know I'm full of toxins and they are sweating out but this is just too much for me. I'm hot and cold all day long when I take the iodoral.Any suggestions? I have 2 meds that I am on that I have tot take if I want to walk and the other is for nerve damage because I refused spine surgery for so long before I actually went through with it but now regret it but I couldn't walk at the time so I basically had to have the surgery. Taking care of 4 children is no easy feat when you can't walk and I had a baby that I had to carry at the time.I'm at a lost now in what I should do.

from Illinois

From: coloredoctave <joanlulich (DOT) com>iodinegroups (DOT) comSent: Fri, January 15, 2010 1:01:46 PMSubject: Re: night sweats

Nursing depletes the mom of iodine and is critical for baby's brain development. Taking iodine is good but kelp could have arsenic in it which wouldn't be good for your baby. Body temperature has everything to do with the thyroid. I think night sweats are adrenals. I thought it was Hashi's when one took too much iodine not when one decreased the dose.Joan>> I'm not sure if anyone has posted about this...?> > I've been taking iodine in the form of kelp for a number of months now> and just recently cut it back to only the equivalent of a couple of> mgs of iodine a day... Was getting a bit worried because I am> breastfeeding and didn't want to cause my daughter a problem.> > In the last few days, I've started to have terrible night sweats not> related to heat (we have air conditioning. .. and are using it because> of the baby). My head and hair and upper body are soaking in the> morning. Could this have something to do with my thyroid? Should I up> my iodine dose again in order to get my body temp under control? Is my> body temp being off even related to my thyroid? > > Any suggestions or thoughts? > > best regards, >

[Guest guest]

Trust me. I did the salt protocal because that was part of the scheme of things in taking iodine. from IllinoisFrom: david kenna <davidjohnkenna@...>iodine Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 2:28:58 PMSubject: Re: Re: night sweats

Dr Brownstein suggests salt in water as an aid to sleeping in his book Salt, Your Way to Health.1 large pinch of salt with a small amount of water.

From: ND <blessedark2009@ att.net>Subject: Re: Re: night sweatsiodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Friday, 15 January, 2010, 19:29

Night sweats. I sweat 24/7. Especially when I get out of the shower, I can't dry off for nothing. Then I put clothes on, more sweating. Then I bundle up to go outside and walk. More sweating. Saturated. It doesn't smell, thank God. But being wet causes me to be chilled because of the cold weather. I'm starting to think my cortisol levels are too high. I don't sleep but maybe 2 to 3 hours a night and this is driving me crazy, literally. And I've got a stupid GP that keeps telling me it is menopause, deal with it. When I take 1/2 of iodoral I sweat 50 times more so today I didn't take it. I only sweat for awhile after my shower but this is getting ridiculous. I'm at a lost in what to do. I know I'm full of toxins and they are sweating out but this is just too much for me. I'm hot and cold all day long when I take the iodoral.Any suggestions? I have 2 meds that I am on

that I have tot take if I want to walk and the other is for nerve damage because I refused spine surgery for so long before I actually went through with it but now regret it but I couldn't walk at the time so I basically had to have the surgery. Taking care of 4 children is no easy feat when you can't walk and I had a baby that I had to carry at the time.I'm at a lost now in what I should do.

from Illinois

From: coloredoctave <joanlulich (DOT) com>iodinegroups (DOT) comSent: Fri, January 15, 2010 1:01:46 PMSubject: Re: night sweats

Nursing depletes the mom of iodine and is critical for baby's brain development. Taking iodine is good but kelp could have arsenic in it which wouldn't be good for your baby. Body temperature has everything to do with the thyroid. I think night sweats are adrenals. I thought it was Hashi's when one took too much iodine not when one decreased the dose.Joan>> I'm not sure if anyone has posted about this...?> > I've been taking iodine in the form of kelp for a number of months now> and just recently cut it back to only the equivalent of a couple of> mgs of iodine a day... Was getting a bit worried because I am> breastfeeding and didn't want to cause my

daughter a problem.> > In the last few days, I've started to have terrible night sweats not> related to heat (we have air conditioning. .. and are using it because> of the baby). My head and hair and upper body are soaking in the> morning. Could this have something to do with my thyroid? Should I up> my iodine dose again in order to get my body temp under control? Is my> body temp being off even related to my thyroid? > > Any suggestions or thoughts? > > best regards, >