Guest guest Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Which is better, crystal form or powder. I already know to get bulk. Just curious what you think there is a difference between the two. laura c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 If I told you that eating peas could cure your cancer, would you eat three a day? That is about what a small bottle of MSM is like. Forget it! No one gets joint improvement on a small bottle of MSM. A small bottle per day would help though. God Luck, Jim " Well, I ordered a small bottle of MSM.. hope it does something for me. I should have it by Thursday or Friday. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Are you saying that I should ingest 250gms of MSM a day? Cause that is how much is in the small bottle. ________________________________ From: Huuman <huuman60@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Wed, September 7, 2011 8:48:17 PM Subject: Re: Regarding MSM If I told you that eating peas could cure your cancer, would you eat three a day? That is about what a small bottle of MSM is like. Forget it! No one gets joint improvement on a small bottle of MSM. A small bottle per day would help though. God Luck, Jim " Well, I ordered a small bottle of MSM.. hope it does something for me. I should have it by Thursday or Friday. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 On 2011-09-08 5:56 AM, Cody <lecody2001@...> wrote: > Are you saying that I should ingest 250gms of MSM a day? Yes... > Cause that is how much is in the small bottle. That is why you should buy it in bulk... I buy 10lbs at a time (for $139), and it lasts me (just me) about 3 months... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I take 2-4 teaspoons, twice a day when I take it. Read.......He's pretty much the authority on MSM The Miracle of MSM:The Natural Solution for Pain [Paperback] Stanley W. MD<http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=ntt_athr_dp_sr_1?_encoding=UTF8 & sort=relevanceran\ k & search-alias=books & field-author=Stanley%20W.%20%20MD>(Author) Saralou On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Cody <lecody2001@...> wrote: > ** > > > Are you saying that I should ingest 250gms of MSM a day? Cause that is how > much > is in the small bottle. > > > > ________________________________ > From: Huuman <huuman60@...> > > Coconut Oil > Sent: Wed, September 7, 2011 8:48:17 PM > > Subject: Re: Regarding MSM > > If I told you that eating peas could cure your cancer, would you eat > three a day? That is about what a small bottle of MSM is like. > > Forget it! No one gets joint improvement on a small bottle of MSM. A > small bottle per day would help though. > > God Luck, Jim > > " Well, I ordered a small bottle of MSM.. hope it does something for me. I > should have it by Thursday or Friday. " > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 On 2011-09-08 9:28 AM, roseottogroups@... <RoseOttoGroups@...> wrote: > I take 2-4 teaspoons, twice a day when I take it. I take 3-8 heaping tablespoons per day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 It would be stupid to spend that much on something you don't even know if you can take. I too have digestive issues and even if I didn't I wouldn't start out taking that much anyway. So a small bottle makes sense. Besides, how much of anything can a body absorb and use at anyone time? C. ________________________________ From: Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Thu, September 8, 2011 7:46:20 AM Subject: Re: Re: Regarding MSM On 2011-09-08 5:56 AM, Cody <lecody2001@...> wrote: > Are you saying that I should ingest 250gms of MSM a day? Yes... > Cause that is how much is in the small bottle. That is why you should buy it in bulk... I buy 10lbs at a time (for $139), and it lasts me (just me) about 3 months... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 On 2011-09-08 10:08 AM, Cody <lecody2001@...> wrote: > It would be stupid to spend that much on something you don't even > know if you can take. So... buy less to start with? > I too have digestive issues and even if I didn't I wouldn't start out > taking that much anyway. So a small bottle makes sense. Like I said - taking it in the way I described *bypasses* the digestive system for the most part. > Besides, how much of anything can a body absorb and use at anyone time? Depends on the substance - with MSM, apparently the answer is *a lot*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Since I can buy the book cheap, less than 5 bucks including shipping, I am ordering it. Still, it makes sense to me to start slow and increase slowly every few days or so.... I am not convinced yet, that one should overdo anything... C. ________________________________ From: " roseottogroups@... " <RoseOttoGroups@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Thu, September 8, 2011 9:28:11 AM Subject: Re: Re: Regarding MSM I take 2-4 teaspoons, twice a day when I take it. Read.......He's pretty much the authority on MSM The Miracle of MSM:The Natural Solution for Pain [Paperback] Stanley W. MD<http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=ntt_athr_dp_sr_1?_encoding=UTF8 & sort=relevanceran\ k & search-alias=books & field-author=Stanley%20W.%20%20MD>(Author) Saralou On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Cody <lecody2001@...> wrote: > ** > > > Are you saying that I should ingest 250gms of MSM a day? Cause that is how > much > is in the small bottle. > > > > ________________________________ > From: Huuman <huuman60@...> > > Coconut Oil > Sent: Wed, September 7, 2011 8:48:17 PM > > Subject: Re: Regarding MSM > > If I told you that eating peas could cure your cancer, would you eat > three a day? That is about what a small bottle of MSM is like. > > Forget it! No one gets joint improvement on a small bottle of MSM. A > small bottle per day would help though. > > God Luck, Jim > > " Well, I ordered a small bottle of MSM.. hope it does something for me. I > should have it by Thursday or Friday. " > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 , You definitely don't want to start out taking 250 grams a day! One level kitchen tsp. equals 5 grams so a TBS would be 15 grams - probably too much to start out with. The recommendation is to take 1/2 tsp (flakes) twice a day to begin, then increase the dosage till you notice a result. Once you finish that bottle you can order the flakes - a much better investment and will work better as the tablets take longer to digest. You may end up needing 3 TBS. or more per day depending on your condition. This site is a good source of information: http://www.arthritis-msm-supplements.com/faq.htm as is the book that SaraLou recommends Taking it on the tongue as Human recommended also works. Best, Dee > > Are you saying that I should ingest 250gms of MSM a day? Cause that is how much > is in the small bottle. > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Huuman <huuman60@...> > Coconut Oil > Sent: Wed, September 7, 2011 8:48:17 PM > Subject: Re: Regarding MSM > > > If I told you that eating peas could cure your cancer, would you eat > three a day? That is about what a small bottle of MSM is like. > > Forget it! No one gets joint improvement on a small bottle of MSM. A > small bottle per day would help though. > > God Luck, Jim > > " Well, I ordered a small bottle of MSM.. hope it does something for me. I > should have it by Thursday or Friday. " > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I got a powdered version of MSM... something called optimsm. Don't know if that makes any difference, it was just the one that came in 8 oz bottle in a brand I would buy. The other option at that size, was a brand I don't trust anymore. Got some stuff from them once that smelled moldy. So, I was thinking to start out at a low dose, like 1/4 tsp for at least 3 days. Still can't figure out whether flake or powder is best. Most websites just suggest bulk. Only one recommended flake and the rest just referred to a powdered version. C ________________________________ From: Dolores <dgk@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Thu, September 8, 2011 10:41:35 AM Subject: Re: Regarding MSM , You definitely don't want to start out taking 250 grams a day! One level kitchen tsp. equals 5 grams so a TBS would be 15 grams - probably too much to start out with. The recommendation is to take 1/2 tsp (flakes) twice a day to begin, then increase the dosage till you notice a result. Once you finish that bottle you can order the flakes - a much better investment and will work better as the tablets take longer to digest. You may end up needing 3 TBS. or more per day depending on your condition. This site is a good source of information: http://www.arthritis-msm-supplements.com/faq.htm as is the book that SaraLou recommends Taking it on the tongue as Human recommended also works. Best, Dee > > Are you saying that I should ingest 250gms of MSM a day? Cause that is how >much > > is in the small bottle. > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Huuman <huuman60@...> > Coconut Oil > Sent: Wed, September 7, 2011 8:48:17 PM > Subject: Re: Regarding MSM > > > If I told you that eating peas could cure your cancer, would you eat > three a day? That is about what a small bottle of MSM is like. > > Forget it! No one gets joint improvement on a small bottle of MSM. A > small bottle per day would help though. > > God Luck, Jim > > " Well, I ordered a small bottle of MSM.. hope it does something for me. I > should have it by Thursday or Friday. " > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 On 2011-09-08 11:04 AM, Cody <lecody2001@...> wrote: > I got a powdered version of MSM... something called optimsm. That's the brand I use... > So, I was thinking to start out at a low dose, like 1/4 tsp for at least > 3 days. Imnsho, this is pointless... Start out with a lot, and then back off *if* you have problems. Otherwise, it will take you months, or even *years* to get up to the therapeutic doses required to do what you want to do. Sorry, but that's just a plain fact. > Still can't figure out whether flake or powder is best. Most websites just > suggest bulk. Only one recommended flake and the rest just referred to a > powdered version. Flake is best - powdered generally has some anti-caking agents added to it to - prevent caking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 OptiMSM is a good brand. I think the flakes are better because they are more pure. They add something to the powder to make it more dissolvable but I have no problem with the flakes whatsoever. I don't think the flakes come in pill form however and I think you will eventually want to order in bulk. Dee > > > > Are you saying that I should ingest 250gms of MSM a day? Cause that is how > >much > > > > is in the small bottle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Huuman <huuman60@> > > Coconut Oil > > Sent: Wed, September 7, 2011 8:48:17 PM > > Subject: Re: Regarding MSM > > > > > > If I told you that eating peas could cure your cancer, would you eat > > three a day? That is about what a small bottle of MSM is like. > > > > Forget it! No one gets joint improvement on a small bottle of MSM. A > > small bottle per day would help though. > > > > God Luck, Jim > > > > " Well, I ordered a small bottle of MSM.. hope it does something for me. I > > should have it by Thursday or Friday. " > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Thanks Dee ________________________________ From: Dolores <dgk@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Thu, September 8, 2011 11:39:21 AM Subject: Re: Regarding MSM OptiMSM is a good brand. I think the flakes are better because they are more pure. They add something to the powder to make it more dissolvable but I have no problem with the flakes whatsoever. I don't think the flakes come in pill form however and I think you will eventually want to order in bulk. Dee > > > > Are you saying that I should ingest 250gms of MSM a day? Cause that is how > >much > > > > is in the small bottle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Huuman <huuman60@> > > Coconut Oil > > Sent: Wed, September 7, 2011 8:48:17 PM > > Subject: Re: Regarding MSM > > > > > > If I told you that eating peas could cure your cancer, would you eat > > three a day? That is about what a small bottle of MSM is like. > > > > Forget it! No one gets joint improvement on a small bottle of MSM. A > > small bottle per day would help though. > > > > God Luck, Jim > > > > " Well, I ordered a small bottle of MSM.. hope it does something for me. I > > should have it by Thursday or Friday. " > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Normal effective doses of MSM start at a rounded teaspoon(apprx 6 grams) to a rounded tablespoon (~20 grams). Even more if necessary. You need to titrate your own effective dose. Chuck Arachnoleptic fit (n.): The frantic dance performed just after you've accidentally walked through a spider web. On 9/8/2011 5:56:26 AM, Cody (lecody2001@...) wrote: > Are you saying that I should ingest 250gms of MSM a day? Cause that is > how much > is in the small bottle. > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Huuman <huuman60@...> > Coconut Oil > Sent: Wed, September 7, 2011 8:48:17 PM > Subject: Re: Regarding MSM > > > If I told you that eating peas could cure your cancer, would you eat > three a day? That is about what a small bottle of MSM is like. > > Forget it! No one gets joint improvement on a small bottle of MSM. A > small bottle per day would help though. > > God Luck, Jim > > " Well, I ordered a small bottle of MSM.. hope it does something for me. I > should have it by Thursday or Friday. " > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 one of the sites I hit suggested a high of 8 grams a day but did point out that some doctor did a small study with patients taking 100 grams a day with no ill effects but also no long term studies. ________________________________ From: " cking001@... " <cking001@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Thu, September 8, 2011 4:17:46 PM Subject: Re: Re: Regarding MSM Normal effective doses of MSM start at a rounded teaspoon(apprx 6 grams) to a rounded tablespoon (~20 grams). Even more if necessary. You need to titrate your own effective dose. Chuck Arachnoleptic fit (n.): The frantic dance performed just after you've accidentally walked through a spider web. On 9/8/2011 5:56:26 AM, Cody (lecody2001@...) wrote: > Are you saying that I should ingest 250gms of MSM a day? Cause that is > how much > is in the small bottle. > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Huuman <huuman60@...> > Coconut Oil > Sent: Wed, September 7, 2011 8:48:17 PM > Subject: Re: Regarding MSM > > > If I told you that eating peas could cure your cancer, would you eat > three a day? That is about what a small bottle of MSM is like. > > Forget it! No one gets joint improvement on a small bottle of MSM. A > small bottle per day would help though. > > God Luck, Jim > > " Well, I ordered a small bottle of MSM.. hope it does something for me. I > should have it by Thursday or Friday. " > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 , you might also want to check out this website - if you haven't already: http://www.well-women.com/msm.html It's specifically for women. Dee > > Are you saying that I should ingest 250gms of MSM a day? Cause that is > > how much > > is in the small bottle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Huuman <huuman60@...> > > Coconut Oil > > Sent: Wed, September 7, 2011 8:48:17 PM > > Subject: Re: Regarding MSM > > > > > > If I told you that eating peas could cure your cancer, would you eat > > three a day? That is about what a small bottle of MSM is like. > > > > Forget it! No one gets joint improvement on a small bottle of MSM. A > > small bottle per day would help though. > > > > God Luck, Jim > > > > " Well, I ordered a small bottle of MSM.. hope it does something for me. I > > should have it by Thursday or Friday. " > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 In the chemical trade they refer to it 80 mesh. The powder form of MSM is usually because they have added a filler, to create more product, or in some cases to prevent clumping. Fillers are added to make pills and to put in capsule filling machines so as to prevent jamming or plugging. Depending on the use you can order it in 60-70-80-90-100 mesh. 80 mesh dissolves in warm water. Dosage. Two level teaspoons in 6 ounces of water, for all external applications , rub on, or apply with a dropper. The same amount is used for internal use, if you are over 35 add 30 drops Aerobic Oxygen. Take by the mouth full, and hold in the mouth as long as possible, then swallow. MSM is quickly absorbed in the mouth, then in the digestive system. It only has a three or 4 hour time span, it is necessary to take a mouth full every 90 minutes. Really good for most types of pain. This dose 2 level teaspoons in good drinking water is great for any eye problem. Use an eye cup do the right eye first, and snuff what is left in the eye cup up the right nostril. Then do the left eye, open your eyes so you can see the inside of the cup, then use what is in the eye cup to snuff up your nose. Keep a bottle with a dropper handy to your night table, if your nose is blocked put a few drops up each nostril, with in 5 minutes you are all clear. If you have an old dog with cataract blindness, apply a dropper full in each eye, two times a day, with in three weeks he will have his sight back. ( Same dose 2 teaspoons (level) in 6 ounces of good drinking water ) If you have questionable water get a gallon of distilled water.. If you have a dog that is lame behind (Hip dysphasia) mix same dose and put it out for drinking water. Anyone who suffers from Allergies-hay fever- ragweed do your eyes, and nose and you are good until noon.I been useing this in my eyes and nose for 45 years, complete relief with in 15 minutes. I am 80 years old and I can read this with out glasses. In 1950 I used DMSO three level teaspoons in 8 ounces of distilled water, drank it, snuffed it and rinsed my eyes, with an eye cup. The only problem was the smell. MSM does the same job no smell or odor. MSM and DMSO are by products of the pulp and paper industry, it is extracted during the paper making process, the raw materials are trees, Rice Stalks, grain stalks, Squash and pumpkin stalks. DMSO is the cement that holds the plants together Bernard M. Cain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Have you ever heard of it working for long-lasting nerve pain, as in post shingles neuralgia (my Dad has had for 5 years, nothing works). He's already taking so much in the way of supplements since he also has end-stage cancer so I don't want to add anything just to add it...i need some solid info that it might really help him (btw, he's very weak and muscle wasted from teh cancer, but no cancer pain, only this nerve pain). thanks, Liz > > In the chemical trade they refer to it 80 mesh. The powder form of MSM is > usually because they have added a filler, to create more product, or in some > cases to prevent clumping. Fillers are added to make pills and to put in > capsule filling machines so as to prevent jamming or plugging. Depending on > the use you can order it in 60-70-80-90-100 mesh. 80 mesh dissolves in warm > water. Dosage. Two level teaspoons in 6 ounces of water, for all external > applications , rub on, or apply with a dropper. The same > > amount is used for internal use, if you are over 35 add 30 drops Aerobic > Oxygen. Take by the mouth full, and hold in the mouth as long as possible, > then swallow. MSM is quickly absorbed in the mouth, then in the digestive > system. It only has a three or 4 hour time span, it is necessary to take a > mouth full every 90 minutes. Really good for most types of pain. This dose > 2 level teaspoons in good drinking water is great for any eye problem. Use > an eye cup do the right eye first, and snuff what is left in the eye cup up > the right nostril. Then do the left eye, open your eyes so you can see the > inside of the cup, then use what is in the eye cup to snuff up your nose. > Keep a bottle with a dropper > > handy to your night table, if your nose is blocked put a few drops up each > nostril, with in 5 minutes you are all clear. If you have an old dog with > cataract blindness, apply > > a dropper full in each eye, two times a day, with in three weeks he will > have his sight back. ( Same dose 2 teaspoons (level) in 6 ounces of good > drinking water ) If you have questionable water get a gallon of distilled > water.. If you have a dog that is lame behind (Hip dysphasia) mix same dose > and put it out for drinking water. Anyone who suffers > > from Allergies-hay fever- ragweed do your eyes, and nose and you are good > until noon.I been useing this in my eyes and nose for 45 years, complete > relief with in 15 minutes. > > I am 80 years old and I can read this with out glasses. In 1950 I used DMSO > three level teaspoons in 8 ounces of distilled water, drank it, snuffed it > and rinsed my eyes, with an > > eye cup. The only problem was the smell. MSM does the same job no smell or > odor. MSM and DMSO are by products of the pulp and paper industry, it is > extracted during the paper making process, the raw materials are trees, Rice > Stalks, grain stalks, Squash and pumpkin stalks. DMSO is the cement that > holds the plants together Bernard M. Cain > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Liz, what got rid of my wife's osteoarthritis pain was a zero-point wanding with an Amega Amwand. She could hardly walk going in, but the first 5 minute treatment kept her pain-free for three days. Over the course of the next year she has needed fewer and fewer treatments; now it's been 14 weeks since the last one. I think that combined with the HGH increasing amino acids that she must have regenerated, because the Amwand is not known to " block " pain as such. A client also cut her morphine dose by 1/2 after three successful sessions a few days apart. all good, Duncan > > Have you ever heard of it working for long-lasting nerve pain, as in post shingles neuralgia (my Dad has had for 5 years, nothing works). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Duncan,thanks for the tip - how much do they cost? I've got a guy coming Weds night to try " low level laser therapy " on him...so far this seems to hold some real promise as i've seen a couple double blind studies in which it def relieved people from this specific type of nerve pain....but we'll see. MSM seems like it also might help w/ his energy...but if I add anything new, i've got to take out something else cuz it's just too much. If someone eats plenty of eggs (he has about 6/week), why would they need extra MSM? thanks, Liz > > > > Have you ever heard of it working for long-lasting nerve pain, as in post shingles neuralgia (my Dad has had for 5 years, nothing works). > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Liz, I think the AMwands were around $300 but I don't know. If someone demos it ondad and it works in 10 minutes cost will not be a concern ...my own dad bought two after his first session and gave one to my sister. MSM is far higher in sulfur than any sulfur food, and a lot of foods contain organic sulfur. I'm OK without MSM but I've been on whey and brassicas for decades. 6 eggs is the per-sitting serving to a body builder, not per week. He's better off with 3 servings per day of undenatured whey powder and selenium. Selenium at 1100 mcg/day has shrunk tumours even on its own. I'd suggest selenomethionine from selenium yeast extract. Look into fucoidans as an anti-cancer food treatment. References: http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/fucoidans-references.html I'm using kelp (I use ascophyllum nosodum from the Bay of Fundy) for the iodine anyway; it is also a fucoidans source. If I had cancer I'd try to kill it outright with cesium chloride, as " high pH therapy " , which includes also potassium salts and ozone therapy, has been very successful. all good, Duncan > > Duncan,thanks for the tip - how much do they cost? > > I've got a guy coming Weds night to try " low level laser therapy " on him...so far this seems to hold some real promise as i've seen a couple double blind studies in which it def relieved people from this specific type of nerve pain....but we'll see. > > MSM seems like it also might help w/ his energy...but if I add anything new, i've got to take out something else cuz it's just too much. If someone eats plenty of eggs (he has about 6/week), why would they need extra MSM? > > thanks, > Liz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Duncan, I just spent a couple hours yesterday looking again at cesium chloride. I had researched it in the beginning, but we were trying some other alternatives that we're still doing, and he was at that time in hospice, so getting regular potassium blood draws would have been a problem. I'm very hesitant to try it though...after all my research again yesterday, there simply is NOT a lot of testimonial success out there...there are a bunch of websites promoting it however, with all the science backing it up, but I want real stories of real people -- I found one, and that person was in the beginning phases of multiple myeloma. The other hesitancy is just the dangers associated w/ it...my Dad is very fragile and i'd be scared messing around w/ his electrolytes. We've had to prioritize...he's on about 25 different supplements each day. I am incorporating the Whey shakes, and selenium (so far only 400mcg though...could go up...but that's another pill he has to swallow and he's so tired of his nerve pain he doens't want to try so much anymore). Fucoidans and MSM...i'll think about adding if we decide to drop off anything else. We recently started curcumin and quercetin, both well documented for cancer, esp. his type...but he can't phycially take the high doses they recommend.. I appreciate the help and tips though, keep em coming! Any solid info/stories on cesium would be great too. thanks, Liz > > > > Duncan,thanks for the tip - how much do they cost? > > > > I've got a guy coming Weds night to try " low level laser therapy " on him...so far this seems to hold some real promise as i've seen a couple double blind studies in which it def relieved people from this specific type of nerve pain....but we'll see. > > > > MSM seems like it also might help w/ his energy...but if I add anything new, i've got to take out something else cuz it's just too much. If someone eats plenty of eggs (he has about 6/week), why would they need extra MSM? > > > > thanks, > > Liz > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Liz, my wife has trouble swallowing pills so I powder the selenium and vitamin D with a mortar and pestle and slip it into the whey shake. I also add inulin, cream, MCT oil, and sometimes a banana when we occasionally cheat on the low-carbing. I understand that when a person is ill it's really hard to treat them with physical methods or oral supplements. Whatever I can think of I'll post ....Consider some supplements/foods are much better utilised via the rectal route. The cesiumtherapy group would be a good source of information on high-pH therapy. cesiumtherapy all good, Duncan > > Duncan, > I just spent a couple hours yesterday looking again at cesium chloride. I had researched it in the beginning, but we were trying some other alternatives that we're still doing, and he was at that time in hospice, so getting regular potassium blood draws would have been a problem. I'm very hesitant to try it though...after all my research again yesterday, there simply is NOT a lot of testimonial success out there...there are a bunch of websites promoting it however, with all the science backing it up, but I want real stories of real people -- I found one, and that person was in the beginning phases of multiple myeloma. The other hesitancy is just the dangers associated w/ it...my Dad is very fragile and i'd be scared messing around w/ his electrolytes. > > We've had to prioritize...he's on about 25 different supplements each day. I am incorporating the Whey shakes, and selenium (so far only 400mcg though...could go up...but that's another pill he has to swallow and he's so tired of his nerve pain he doens't want to try so much anymore). > > Fucoidans and MSM...i'll think about adding if we decide to drop off anything else. We recently started curcumin and quercetin, both well documented for cancer, esp. his type...but he can't phycially take the high doses they recommend.. > > I appreciate the help and tips though, keep em coming! Any solid info/stories on cesium would be great too. > > thanks, > Liz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Val I've been to a couple of seminars in which training was provided for the Amwand. Several people commented that they became pain-free and not in a few sessions but weeks of treatment at an hour or more per day. They said persistence pays, and some infer that the intent of the healer may help it work better in someone else's hands other than the recipient. I consider my wife lucky that it worked in 5 minutes every time because I would have written off the therapy if we had to wave a magic wand for long. But, enough people report 100% success if you keep at it that it's still worth the effort to find out. Normally, the person who introduced you to the technology has been adequately prepared to give lessons and to get results. I have nothing to do with the company aside from owning two of them, so I also have an extra one. It works on my son every time so I think I'll give it to him all good, Duncan > > > > Have you ever heard of it working for long-lasting nerve pain, as in post shingles neuralgia (my Dad has had for 5 years, nothing works). > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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