Guest guest Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Marenda, did you buy a concentrate or isolate? Isolates are generally well tolerated even by the severely milk-sensitive, so you may be able to benefit from it yet Your doctor could also prescribe a glutathione nebuliser to alleviate the lung irritation and airway restriction. It won't hit the cells as evenly as a precursor would but it may be useful. all good, Duncan > > Hello all, update on the whey protein. I cannot take it because it started increasing the violent coughing and mucus coming out of everywhere. So until I or the doctor figure out what is causing the chronic coughing, mucus and breathing problem that one is off the list. Its getting to the point I can't drink any liquids. Thanks all. > > Marenda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 It says Whey Protein Concentrate and Isolate (milk) (microfiltered, non-denatured) 19 g. Marenda > > Marenda, did you buy a concentrate or isolate? Isolates are generally well tolerated even by the severely milk-sensitive, so you may be able to benefit from it yet > > Your doctor could also prescribe a glutathione nebuliser to alleviate the lung irritation and airway restriction. It won't hit the cells as evenly as a precursor would but it may be useful. > > all good, > > Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 My group uses Nutriteck's isolate whey powder and no-one has experienced any problems. There are a few super-sensitive and some milk intolerant people in my group, that seem to be O.K. with the isolate. One person " experimented " with a lower priced isolate and concentrate mix and could not tolerate it at all! Hope you figure out what the issue is. Blessings to all. Nick On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Marenda <marendaw@...> wrote: > > > It says Whey Protein Concentrate and Isolate (milk) (microfiltered, > non-denatured) 19 g. > > Marenda > > > > > > > Marenda, did you buy a concentrate or isolate? Isolates are generally > well tolerated even by the severely milk-sensitive, so you may be able to > benefit from it yet > > > > Your doctor could also prescribe a glutathione nebuliser to alleviate the > lung irritation and airway restriction. It won't hit the cells as evenly as > a precursor would but it may be useful. > > > > all good, > > > > Duncan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 No wonder though that Nutritek suggests a 10-gram serving, with a cost of $38.40 for 300 grams Several good isolates cost less than 1/5 of that and don't trigger reactions. This Immune Max isolate for example is $31.50 for 1500 grams; 1500 grams of Nutritek isolate would cost $192.00! http://www.bayho.com/p/360010.html Whey concentrates and isolates are also used for rebuilding, which a 50-gram serving might help with and 10 grams is less likely to do. all good, Duncan > > My group uses Nutriteck's isolate whey powder and no-one has experienced any > problems. There are a few super-sensitive and some > milk intolerant people in my group, that seem to be O.K. with the isolate. > One person " experimented " with a lower priced isolate and concentrate > mix and could not tolerate it at all! > Hope you figure out what the issue is. > Blessings to all. > Nick > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Duncan you are quoting the wrong price. That price is for the WPI-90S. It is not what we purchase. It is not the pure un-denatured whey powder isolate. That comes in bulk #WPI-95, 1500 servings @ $360.00 per 33 Lbs bag Regards, Nick On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote: > > > No wonder though that Nutritek suggests a 10-gram serving, with a cost of > $38.40 for 300 grams > > Several good isolates cost less than 1/5 of that and don't trigger > reactions. > > This Immune Max isolate for example is $31.50 for 1500 grams; 1500 grams of > Nutritek isolate would cost $192.00! http://www.bayho.com/p/360010.html > > Whey concentrates and isolates are also used for rebuilding, which a > 50-gram serving might help with and 10 grams is less likely to do. > > all good, > > Duncan > > > > > > > My group uses Nutriteck's isolate whey powder and no-one has experienced > any > > problems. There are a few super-sensitive and some > > milk intolerant people in my group, that seem to be O.K. with the > isolate. > > One person " experimented " with a lower priced isolate and concentrate > > mix and could not tolerate it at all! > > Hope you figure out what the issue is. > > Blessings to all. > > Nick > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Marenda, I also have the violent cough that wouldn't go away. It would stay out if i take an ounce colloidal silver with three drops of dmso, oregano oil, black seed oil, lobellia and echinacea-golden seal capsules. If i forget to take the colloidal silver with dmso, the cough comes back. I was told by the owner of oleander group to persist in treating it as this kind of cough has been going around. We are not alone. > > Hello all, update on the whey protein. I cannot take it because it started increasing the violent coughing and mucus coming out of everywhere. So until I or the doctor figure out what is causing the chronic coughing, mucus and breathing problem that one is off the list. Its getting to the point I can't drink any liquids. Thanks all. > > Marenda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Nick, yes, $10 per pound is more in line with the other good isolates ....are the people using Nutritek WPI95 low dosing with 1-2 10-gram servings or 35-50 grams per serving? I've seen that people report they respond better to 70 grams a day than 35. all good, Duncan > > Duncan you are quoting the wrong price. That price is for the WPI-90S. > It is not what we purchase. > It is not the pure un-denatured whey powder isolate. > That comes in bulk #WPI-95, > 1500 servings @ $360.00 per 33 Lbs bag > Regards, > Nick > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I have an appt. with my Pulmonary doctor today. Duncan I will mention what you said. Thank you all. Marenda > > > > Hello all, update on the whey protein. I cannot take it because it started increasing the violent coughing and mucus coming out of everywhere. So until I or the doctor figure out what is causing the chronic coughing, mucus and breathing problem that one is off the list. Its getting to the point I can't drink any liquids. Thanks all. > > > > Marenda > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 That is great news yours is gone. Don't know colloidal silver, if you take the wrong kind it can turn you blue. Marenda > > > > Hello all, update on the whey protein. I cannot take it because it started increasing the violent coughing and mucus coming out of everywhere. So until I or the doctor figure out what is causing the chronic coughing, mucus and breathing problem that one is off the list. Its getting to the point I can't drink any liquids. Thanks all. > > > > Marenda > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Marenda the Dr. will find that Immunocal is well tolerated by severely milk-sensitive individuals by looking that one up in his Physicians Desktop Reference for prescription drugs (under glutathione building). Other isolates are similarly well tolerated. all good, Duncan > > > > > > Hello all, update on the whey protein. I cannot take it because it started increasing the violent coughing and mucus coming out of everywhere. So until I or the doctor figure out what is causing the chronic coughing, mucus and breathing problem that one is off the list. Its getting to the point I can't drink any liquids. Thanks all. > > > > > > Marenda > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Hey Duncan, the doctor act as if he had no clue what a glutathione nebuliser is, also he doesn't like the oil pulling because he said even if I split it out some oil would still be swallowed. So he has put me back on oxygen and gave me an antibiotic " Azithromycin " for 5 days. At this point I am desperate for relief so I will try all, the supplements, oxygen and antibiotic. Thanks for your help. Marenda > > > > > > Marenda, did you buy a concentrate or isolate? Isolates are generally well tolerated even by the severely milk-sensitive, so you may be able to benefit from it yet > > > > > > Your doctor could also prescribe a glutathione nebuliser to alleviate the lung irritation and airway restriction. It won't hit the cells as evenly as a precursor would but it may be useful. > > > > > > all good, > > > > > > Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Marenda, This is food for thought to an Internet posting in the < My question: can a bromine cough last this long? She has no fever and her lungs are clear. > Comment: The answer is yes ! As long as the Pneumogastric Nerve ( The X Cranial , Vagus or Wandering Nerve ) is aggravated by irritants in the gastrointestinal tract. The persistent cough is mediated by this nerve ( Pneumo : lung and Gastric :stomach ) which innervates both the respiratory organs and the stomach. Stimulation of either of these organs has reciprocal manifestation.For instance, gastric irritation may provoke coughing and respiratory infection may reciprocally cause gastric symptoms - nausea and vomiting. In other words, your daughter's persistent cough is the little voice of the Abominal Brain telling you that all is not well in her gastrointestinal tract. This phenomenon , I often encounter in outpatient clinic particularly with hysterically tense patients. I have managed patients with persistent cough throughout their pregnancy without medication but with the reassurance that the irritating cough will taper off after delivery. This is the Uterine cough noted in some of my antenatal patients. The pneumogastric cough or vomitting :The little voice in your stomach http://www.wellbeing.com.au/article/Features/Body-Health/The-abdominal-brain_279 The index of suspicion of allergy is high with your pneumogastric reactions. With regards lew On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Marenda <marendaw@...> wrote: > > > Hey Duncan, the doctor act as if he had no clue what a glutathione > nebuliser is, also he doesn't like the oil pulling because he said even if I > split it out some oil would still be swallowed. > > So he has put me back on oxygen and gave me an antibiotic " Azithromycin " > for 5 days. At this point I am desperate for relief so I will try all, the > supplements, oxygen and antibiotic. > > Thanks for your help. > > > Marenda > > > > > > > > > > Marenda, did you buy a concentrate or isolate? Isolates are generally > well tolerated even by the severely milk-sensitive, so you may be able to > benefit from it yet > > > > > > > > Your doctor could also prescribe a glutathione nebuliser to alleviate > the lung irritation and airway restriction. It won't hit the cells as evenly > as a precursor would but it may be useful. > > > > > > > > all good, > > > > > > > > Duncan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Lew, I think you are so correct. Two weeks ago, i suffered stomach upset with mild diarrhea. The following day, i started to cough even with no runny nose or cold. I woke up with my sinus and face feeling so plugged up so i had to snort and cough up the mucous. Then the cold disappeared, but two days later it came back and it is like this like a seesaw for three weeks now. I notice it comes back if i go outside the house for a long time. > > > > > > > > > > Marenda, did you buy a concentrate or isolate? Isolates are generally > > well tolerated even by the severely milk-sensitive, so you may be able to > > benefit from it yet > > > > > > > > > > Your doctor could also prescribe a glutathione nebuliser to alleviate > > the lung irritation and airway restriction. It won't hit the cells as evenly > > as a precursor would but it may be useful. > > > > > > > > > > all good, > > > > > > > > > > Duncan > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Marenda, the doctor could be induced to look up a prescription glutathione spray, and you can easily make your own as well. This is a google search on " glutathione nebuliser " : <http://tinyurl.com/glutathione-nebuliser> Here's a comment about a compounding company that knows more about it: http://www.prohealth.com/me-cfs/blog/boardDetail.cfm?id=1057721 " For the record, my doctor phoned in a prescription for both the nebulizer and the glutathione from the following compounding pharmacy: Key Pharmacy (800-878-1322). This is in/near Seattle. " Here's a compounder in Australia that makes it: http://www.custommedicine.com.au/health-articles/glutathione/ You can also take glutahtione suppositories. all good, Duncan > > > > > > > > Marenda, did you buy a concentrate or isolate? Isolates are generally well tolerated even by the severely milk-sensitive, so you may be able to benefit from it yet > > > > > > > > Your doctor could also prescribe a glutathione nebuliser to alleviate the lung irritation and airway restriction. It won't hit the cells as evenly as a precursor would but it may be useful. > > > > > > > > all good, > > > > > > > > Duncan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Hi Still find this BRUTALLY expensive... > > > No wonder though that Nutritek suggests a 10-gram serving, with a cost of > $38.40 for 300 grams > > Several good isolates cost less than 1/5 of that and don't trigger > reactions. > > This Immune Max isolate for example is $31.50 for 1500 grams; 1500 grams of > Nutritek isolate would cost $192.00! http://www.bayho.com/p/360010.html > > Whey concentrates and isolates are also used for rebuilding, which a > 50-gram serving might help with and 10 grams is less likely to do. > > all good, > > Duncan > > > > > > > My group uses Nutriteck's isolate whey powder and no-one has experienced > any > > problems. There are a few super-sensitive and some > > milk intolerant people in my group, that seem to be O.K. with the > isolate. > > One person " experimented " with a lower priced isolate and concentrate > > mix and could not tolerate it at all! > > Hope you figure out what the issue is. > > Blessings to all. > > Nick > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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