Re: thimerosal free flu shots

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen,

There is not a single vaccine that is " safe " , and no credible study

(not bought and paid for by vaccine makers) has ever proven

otherwise. Thimerosal is just one of the many toxic ingredients in

the flu shot. Vaccines do not and have never prevented any illness.

They cause immune dysregulation, autoimmune disease, neurological

damage and chronic illness. I have several close family members and

friends who have been severely damaged or killed by vaccines. You

can't get " health " from a syringe full of viruses, bacterial toxins

and heavy metals. Hopefully you can refuse.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller27.html

On Feb 6, 2011, at 1:39 PM, healthyhopeful wrote:

> The health facility I am working at is pressuring us to take a

> thimerosal free seasonal/h1n1 flu shot. Evidently, there were so

> many people there who would not take the flu shot b/c of the

> thimerosal, that they are offering the thimerosal free version.

> Does anyone know if there are any studies out there that indicate

> whether the thimerosal-free version is safe?

>

> P.S. Noticed that Safeway is selling flavored coconut water drinks.

> Bought one today to try. Very interesting.

>

> Jen

>

>

[Guest guest]

In addition to what wrote, it has been pointed out to me that

even if the flu shots were " safe " there is an added complication. If

one's immune system does not respond well, the flu shot won't do any

good, and if one has a healthy immune system, one does not need a flu

shot.

Best way I know for keeping my immune system healthy is with vitamin

D3 (not D2), taken daily at much much higher doses than the pitiful

RDA for vitamin D.

Alobar

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 4:01 PM, cathylynn2 <cathybuckley@...> wrote:

> Hi Jen,

>

> There is not a single vaccine that is " safe " , and no credible study

> (not bought and paid for by vaccine makers) has ever proven

> otherwise. Thimerosal is just one of the many toxic ingredients in

> the flu shot. Vaccines do not and have never prevented any illness.

> They cause immune dysregulation, autoimmune disease, neurological

> damage and chronic illness. I have several close family members and

> friends who have been severely damaged or killed by vaccines. You

> can't get " health " from a syringe full of viruses, bacterial toxins

> and heavy metals. Hopefully you can refuse.

>

> http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller27.html

>

>

>

> On Feb 6, 2011, at 1:39 PM, healthyhopeful wrote:

>

>> The health facility I am working at is pressuring us to take a

>> thimerosal free seasonal/h1n1 flu shot. Evidently, there were so

>> many people there who would not take the flu shot b/c of the

>> thimerosal, that they are offering the thimerosal free version.

>> Does anyone know if there are any studies out there that indicate

>> whether the thimerosal-free version is safe?

>>

>> P.S. Noticed that Safeway is selling flavored coconut water drinks.

>> Bought one today to try. Very interesting.

>>

>> Jen

>>

[Guest guest]

Add to that the invasive nature of a hypodermic injection & it may be

stressful enough to further weaken the immune system by introducing toxic shock.

And while " flu shots can't give you the flu " , it does wound & further

weaken a body  by taking away healing energy to heal the hole that's just

been punched into the body! Not to mention the stress of infection fighting. 

Diminished enough to succumb to the next viral exposure. And it wouldn't have

dipped down/below to virus-accesible levels but for damage of the shot

transfer method.

 

It's been observed that most viruses are weaker than a healthy immune system.

Those who catch flu or cold imbalances are usually the workaholics,

overstressed, malnourished, sleep deprived, etc. 

(Funny how this describes, not just a large portion of the population, but,

ironically,  drs., interns, nurses & medical students.)

All conditions comprimising operating condition & strength.

 

-richard, l.m.t.-

 

If one's immune system does not respond well, the flu shot won't do any

good, and if one has a healthy immune system, one does not need a flu

shot.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

 

trader Joes has some good coconut water that is unflavored...not sure of the

name...

something like vicco...which is good and 'un-processed'...

 

There is a book called 'Green Medicine' written by a D.O....and he says there is

no need to take vaccinations - that working to keep our immune syst strong is

more important...

80 ~ 90% of our immune system is in the gut...

so good probiotics are essential...

D

From: healthyhopeful <akaiyuhi2000@...>

Subject: thimerosal free flu shots

Coconut Oil

Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 4:39 PM

 

The health facility I am working at is pressuring us to take a thimerosal free

seasonal/h1n1 flu shot. Evidently, there were so many people there who would not

take the flu shot b/c of the thimerosal, that they are offering the thimerosal

free version. Does anyone know if there are any studies out there that indicate

whether the thimerosal-free version is safe?

P.S. Noticed that Safeway is selling flavored coconut water drinks. Bought one

today to try. Very interesting.

Jen

[Guest guest]

I agree with that the immune system is stronger than viruses. I worked

for 23 years in a very large office building with much sickness going around all

the time and I almost never caught it, despite only twice getting the flu shot.

Also, I will share an instant remedy for those who are brave enough to try this

suggestion from a total stranger. About 12 years ago, I, quite surprisingly,

found what became an instant remedy for every cold and flu that I ever felt

coming on. I learned to use it in a single dose

application at the start of symptoms and it could kick everything I felt trying

to get me. That is when my mind started to change about american medicine. If

something sooooo simple and cheap could keep me out of the cold and flu section

of pharmacies and keep me out of the doctors office, I realized hard that

American medicine is not our friend. If something drastic happens to me, I will

resort there. But I am glad I have been doctor free and drug free and even

asparin free. This has been the only medicine in my house. Though I have

learned more along the way to take care of life's little aches and pains. So I

am doing pretty good for myself--and friends, too, who let me pass on what I

have learned. Try these web sites for more information about this wonderful

health secret that the FDA would love to put down.

The One-Minute Cure: The Secret to Healing Virtually All Diseases

http://www.oneminutecure.com/

If you search hard enough, you can find the PDF of the book for free. In any

case, much of the book's info is available out there for free as well. For

example, see the following URLs:

http://drinkh2o2.com/

http://www.the-natural-path.com/hydrogen-peroxide-therapy.html

http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/benefitsofhydrogenperozide17jul03.shtml

It is not asy to find food-grade H202 at health food stores or drug stores.

However, you may have luck finding it at hydroponic supply stores. One

hydroponic store manager informed me that, by law, he can only sell 29%

strength at the most (not 35%). It cost about $12 for one litre. Also you can

google the name Guardian of Eden and purchase it online there.

________________________________

From: Silva <silvaworks@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 6:29:49 AM

Subject: Re: thimerosal free flu shots

Add to that the invasive nature of a hypodermic injection & it may be stressful

enough to further weaken the immune system by introducing toxic shock.

And while " flu shots can't give you the flu " , it does wound & further weaken a

body by taking away healing energy to heal the hole that's just been punched

into the body! Not to mention the stress of infection fighting.

Diminished enough to succumb to the next viral exposure. And it wouldn't have

dipped down/below to virus-accesible levels but for damage of the shot transfer

method.

It's been observed that most viruses are weaker than a healthy immune system.

Those who catch flu or cold imbalances are usually the workaholics,

overstressed, malnourished, sleep deprived, etc.

(Funny how this describes, not just a large portion of the population, but,

ironically, drs., interns, nurses & medical students.)

All conditions comprimising operating condition & strength.

-richard, l.m.t.-

If one's immune system does not respond well, the flu shot won't do any

good, and if one has a healthy immune system, one does not need a flu

shot.

[Guest guest]

I would greatly appreciate Duncan's and Alobar's thoughts about H2O2 therapy.

Thanks,

Pasha

________________________________

From: Lyn K <godisbest4me@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 3:55:32 PM

Subject: Re: thimerosal free flu shots

 

I agree with that the immune system is stronger than viruses. I worked

for 23 years in a very large office building with much sickness going around all

the time and I almost never caught it, despite only twice getting the flu shot.

Also, I will share an instant remedy for those who are brave enough to try this

suggestion from a total stranger. About 12 years ago, I, quite surprisingly,

found what became an instant remedy for every cold and flu that I ever felt

coming on. I learned to use it in a single dose

application at the start of symptoms and it could kick everything I felt trying

to get me. That is when my mind started to change about american medicine. If

something sooooo simple and cheap could keep me out of the cold and flu section

of pharmacies and keep me out of the doctors office, I realized hard that

American medicine is not our friend. If something drastic happens to me, I will

resort there. But I am glad I have been doctor free and drug free and even

asparin free. This has been the only medicine in my house. Though I have

learned more along the way to take care of life's little aches and pains. So I

am doing pretty good for myself--and friends, too, who let me pass on what I

have learned. Try these web sites for more information about this wonderful

health secret that the FDA would love to put down.

The One-Minute Cure: The Secret to Healing Virtually All Diseases

http://www.oneminutecure.com/

If you search hard enough, you can find the PDF of the book for free. In any

case, much of the book's info is available out there for free as well. For

example, see the following URLs:

http://drinkh2o2.com/

http://www.the-natural-path.com/hydrogen-peroxide-therapy.html

http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/benefitsofhydrogenperozide17jul03.shtml

It is not asy to find food-grade H202 at health food stores or drug stores.

However, you may have luck finding it at hydroponic supply stores. One

hydroponic store manager informed me that, by law, he can only sell 29%

strength at the most (not 35%). It cost about $12 for one litre. Also you can

google the name Guardian of Eden and purchase it online there.

________________________________

From: Silva <silvaworks@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 6:29:49 AM

Subject: Re: thimerosal free flu shots

Add to that the invasive nature of a hypodermic injection & it may be stressful

enough to further weaken the immune system by introducing toxic shock.

And while " flu shots can't give you the flu " , it does wound & further weaken a

body by taking away healing energy to heal the hole that's just been punched

into the body! Not to mention the stress of infection fighting.

Diminished enough to succumb to the next viral exposure. And it wouldn't have

dipped down/below to virus-accesible levels but for damage of the shot transfer

method.

It's been observed that most viruses are weaker than a healthy immune system.

Those who catch flu or cold imbalances are usually the workaholics,

overstressed, malnourished, sleep deprived, etc.

(Funny how this describes, not just a large portion of the population, but,

ironically, drs., interns, nurses & medical students.)

All conditions comprimising operating condition & strength.

-richard, l.m.t.-

If one's immune system does not respond well, the flu shot won't do any

good, and if one has a healthy immune system, one does not need a flu

shot.

[Guest guest]

I never used it nor am I really moved to try it.

Alobar

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Pasha <pashamad@...> wrote:

>

> I would greatly appreciate Duncan's and Alobar's thoughts about H2O2 therapy.

>

> Thanks,

> Pasha

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Lyn K <godisbest4me@...>

> Coconut Oil

> Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 3:55:32 PM

> Subject: Re: thimerosal free flu shots

>

>

> I agree with that the immune system is stronger than viruses. I worked

> for 23 years in a very large office building with much sickness going around

all

>

> the time and I almost never caught it, despite only twice getting the flu

shot.

>

> Also, I will share an instant remedy for those who are brave enough to try

this

> suggestion from a total stranger. About 12 years ago, I, quite surprisingly,

> found what became an instant remedy for every cold and flu that I ever felt

> coming on. I learned to use it in a single dose

>

> application at the start of symptoms and it could kick everything I felt

trying

> to get me. That is when my mind started to change about american medicine. If

> something sooooo simple and cheap could keep me out of the cold and flu

section

> of pharmacies and keep me out of the doctors office, I realized hard that

> American medicine is not our friend. If something drastic happens to me, I

will

> resort there. But I am glad I have been doctor free and drug free and even

> asparin free. This has been the only medicine in my house. Though I have

> learned more along the way to take care of life's little aches and pains. So I

> am doing pretty good for myself--and friends, too, who let me pass on what I

> have learned. Try these web sites for more information about this wonderful

> health secret that the FDA would love to put down.

>

> The One-Minute Cure: The Secret to Healing Virtually All Diseases

> http://www.oneminutecure.com/

>

> If you search hard enough, you can find the PDF of the book for free. In any

> case, much of the book's info is available out there for free as well. For

> example, see the following URLs:

>

> http://drinkh2o2.com/

> http://www.the-natural-path.com/hydrogen-peroxide-therapy.html

> http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/benefitsofhydrogenperozide17jul03.shtml

>

> It is not asy to find food-grade H202 at health food stores or drug stores.

> However, you may have luck finding it at hydroponic supply stores. One

> hydroponic store manager informed me that, by law, he can only sell 29%

> strength at the most (not 35%). It cost about $12 for one litre. Also you can

> google the name Guardian of Eden and purchase it online there.

>

> ________________________________

> From: Silva <silvaworks@...>

> Coconut Oil

> Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 6:29:49 AM

> Subject: Re: thimerosal free flu shots

>

> Add to that the invasive nature of a hypodermic injection & it may be

stressful

> enough to further weaken the immune system by introducing toxic shock.

> And while " flu shots can't give you the flu " , it does wound & further weaken a

> body by taking away healing energy to heal the hole that's just been punched

> into the body! Not to mention the stress of infection fighting.

>

> Diminished enough to succumb to the next viral exposure. And it wouldn't have

> dipped down/below to virus-accesible levels but for damage of the shot

transfer

> method.

>

> It's been observed that most viruses are weaker than a healthy immune system.

> Those who catch flu or cold imbalances are usually the workaholics,

> overstressed, malnourished, sleep deprived, etc.

>

> (Funny how this describes, not just a large portion of the population, but,

> ironically, drs., interns, nurses & medical students.)

> All conditions comprimising operating condition & strength.

>

> -richard, l.m.t.-

>

>

>

> If one's immune system does not respond well, the flu shot won't do any

> good, and if one has a healthy immune system, one does not need a flu

> shot.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Alobar!

________________________________

From: Alobar <Alobar@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 10:03:35 PM

Subject: Re: thimerosal free flu shots

 

I never used it nor am I really moved to try it.

Alobar

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Pasha <pashamad@...> wrote:

>

> I would greatly appreciate Duncan's and Alobar's thoughts about H2O2 therapy.

>

> Thanks,

> Pasha

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Lyn K <godisbest4me@...>

> Coconut Oil

> Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 3:55:32 PM

> Subject: Re: thimerosal free flu shots

>

>

> I agree with that the immune system is stronger than viruses. I worked

> for 23 years in a very large office building with much sickness going around

>all

>

> the time and I almost never caught it, despite only twice getting the flu

shot.

>

> Also, I will share an instant remedy for those who are brave enough to try

this

> suggestion from a total stranger. About 12 years ago, I, quite surprisingly,

> found what became an instant remedy for every cold and flu that I ever felt

> coming on. I learned to use it in a single dose

>

> application at the start of symptoms and it could kick everything I felt

trying

> to get me. That is when my mind started to change about american medicine. If

> something sooooo simple and cheap could keep me out of the cold and flu

section

> of pharmacies and keep me out of the doctors office, I realized hard that

> American medicine is not our friend. If something drastic happens to me, I

will

> resort there. But I am glad I have been doctor free and drug free and even

> asparin free. This has been the only medicine in my house. Though I have

> learned more along the way to take care of life's little aches and pains. So I

> am doing pretty good for myself--and friends, too, who let me pass on what I

> have learned. Try these web sites for more information about this wonderful

> health secret that the FDA would love to put down.

>

> The One-Minute Cure: The Secret to Healing Virtually All Diseases

> http://www.oneminutecure.com/

>

> If you search hard enough, you can find the PDF of the book for free. In any

> case, much of the book's info is available out there for free as well. For

> example, see the following URLs:

>

> http://drinkh2o2.com/

> http://www.the-natural-path.com/hydrogen-peroxide-therapy.html

> http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/benefitsofhydrogenperozide17jul03.shtml

>

> It is not asy to find food-grade H202 at health food stores or drug stores.

> However, you may have luck finding it at hydroponic supply stores. One

> hydroponic store manager informed me that, by law, he can only sell 29%

> strength at the most (not 35%). It cost about $12 for one litre. Also you can

> google the name Guardian of Eden and purchase it online there.

>

> ________________________________

> From: Silva <silvaworks@...>

> Coconut Oil

> Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 6:29:49 AM

> Subject: Re: thimerosal free flu shots

>

> Add to that the invasive nature of a hypodermic injection & it may be

stressful

> enough to further weaken the immune system by introducing toxic shock.

> And while " flu shots can't give you the flu " , it does wound & further weaken a

> body by taking away healing energy to heal the hole that's just been punched

> into the body! Not to mention the stress of infection fighting.

>

> Diminished enough to succumb to the next viral exposure. And it wouldn't have

> dipped down/below to virus-accesible levels but for damage of the shot

transfer

> method.

>

> It's been observed that most viruses are weaker than a healthy immune system.

> Those who catch flu or cold imbalances are usually the workaholics,

> overstressed, malnourished, sleep deprived, etc.

>

> (Funny how this describes, not just a large portion of the population, but,

> ironically, drs., interns, nurses & medical students.)

> All conditions comprimising operating condition & strength.

>

> -richard, l.m.t.-

>

>

>

> If one's immune system does not respond well, the flu shot won't do any

> good, and if one has a healthy immune system, one does not need a flu

> shot.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the tip on the water. I'll check TJ's out.

I do have autoimmune issues - Hashimoto's disease; low D3, low B12 and asthma;

plus high stress job, little sleep, long hours, etc. I rarely get the flu -

usually it is just a virus. I was concerned about how a shot could affect me

with my medical issues but the safety info I read online is contradictory to say

the least. And the doctor's are no help either. Jen

>

>

> From: healthyhopeful <akaiyuhi2000@...>

> Subject: thimerosal free flu shots

> Coconut Oil

> Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 4:39 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> The health facility I am working at is pressuring us to take a thimerosal free

seasonal/h1n1 flu shot. Evidently, there were so many people there who would not

take the flu shot b/c of the thimerosal, that they are offering the thimerosal

free version. Does anyone know if there are any studies out there that indicate

whether the thimerosal-free version is safe?

>

> P.S. Noticed that Safeway is selling flavored coconut water drinks. Bought one

today to try. Very interesting.

>

> Jen

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am so confused. Some say H2O2 is a good alternative cure. However, somesay

H202 is an OXIDANT and can be harmful. Which is which, i welcome any comment.

>

> If one's immune system does not respond well, the flu shot won't do any

> good, and if one has a healthy immune system, one does not need a flu

> shot.

>

>

>

>

>