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Well, if you are post-op it would seem you have some issues. I think

you are pre-op? In that case what you are describing is a normal

result of the deterioration of the hip. I was very contorted in the

last few months. So much so that when asked to stand up straight for

an x-ray I could not do it. It took so much effort to just walk

around that I was exhausted at the end of the work day and I was

losing weight. That is how much energy it took to propel me forward.

I remember a few days post-op testing my stance. I was able to stand

straight with both feet aligned and shoulders back. This thrilled me

to death. Once you have your surgery you will find things all back

to normal.

Deb

>

> It's been a long road...but I came to a new realization today I

want

> to get your feedback on.

>

> What I've known/been experiencing/discussed previously with DR:

>

> 1) When I try to stand straight and distribute my weight on the

> affected side, I get searing pain in the anterior groin that

> radiates " down and around " the top of the inner groin/thigh

> connection (don't know the term for that part, sorry).

>

> 2) When I stick my butt out more, the pain is decreased some.

>

> 3) When I walk straight (aligned properly),

snapping/popping/grinding

> in the anterior groin occur, with very intense pain.

>

> What I realized today because of the way I was standing and tried

> walking:

>

> 1) When I rotate my leg inward (so the toes are facing inward and

not

> straight forward) I can distribute my weight without pain in the

> affected side.

>

> 2) When I walk with my leg rotated inward, I do not get any

> snapping/popping/grinding or pain.

>

> 3) The further the toes are aimed inward (so, maybe around the 10

> o'clock position vs. and 11 o'clock position of the right foot) I

> have the best results.

>

> What would all this mean?! My hubby wants me to just walk like

that

> since I get relief, but I know that will make other things act

> up/worse, so I'd rather stick to crutches vs. being malaligned.

>

> HELP?!!?!?!?!? =) (please!)

>

> superhipchick aka hipsrus

>

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You're describing my symptoms to the tee and I'm preop. I will have

a total hip replacement on 2/5 and I've been diagnosed with severe

osteoarthritis in my left hip at the age of 51.

--- In Joint Replacement , " superhipchick "

<hipsrus@...> wrote

> It's been a long road...but I came to a new realization today I

want

> to get your feedback on.

>

> What I've known/been experiencing/discussed previously with DR:

>

> 1) When I try to stand straight and distribute my weight on the

> affected side, I get searing pain in the anterior groin that

> radiates " down and around " the top of the inner groin/thigh

> connection (don't know the term for that part, sorry).

>

> 2) When I stick my butt out more, the pain is decreased some.

>

> 3) When I walk straight (aligned properly),

snapping/popping/grinding

> in the anterior groin occur, with very intense pain.

>

> What I realized today because of the way I was standing and tried

> walking:

>

> 1) When I rotate my leg inward (so the toes are facing inward and

not

> straight forward) I can distribute my weight without pain in the

> affected side.

>

> 2) When I walk with my leg rotated inward, I do not get any

> snapping/popping/grinding or pain.

>

> 3) The further the toes are aimed inward (so, maybe around the 10

> o'clock position vs. and 11 o'clock position of the right foot) I

> have the best results.

>

> What would all this mean?! My hubby wants me to just walk like that

> since I get relief, but I know that will make other things act

> up/worse, so I'd rather stick to crutches vs. being malaligned.

>

> HELP?!!?!?!?!? =) (please!)

>

> superhipchick aka hipsrus

>

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Hi SuperHipChick --

I must admit I don't have a clue about your puzzle. However, I am

curious what kind of prosthesis you have?

Thanks,

>

> It's been a long road...but I came to a new realization today I want

> to get your feedback on.

>

> What I've known/been experiencing/discussed previously with DR:

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Deb~

Thanks for the info. Right now, there's no plan for additional

surgery though as of my appt this week...my DR said he has no

indication of what is causing my pain. He's going to check with

someone about accupuncture and other types of physical

therapy...honestly, the man has me confused.

My PT guy says it makes sense, as if I rotate the leg the ball also

rotates and the weight bearing is put on a different spot inside the

joint.

I'm just glad to know that someone else also knows what I am talking

about, since apparently my DR doesn't.

Thanks again so much.

> >

> > It's been a long road...but I came to a new realization today I

> want

> > to get your feedback on.

> >

> > What I've known/been experiencing/discussed previously with DR:

> >

> > 1) When I try to stand straight and distribute my weight on the

> > affected side, I get searing pain in the anterior groin that

> > radiates " down and around " the top of the inner groin/thigh

> > connection (don't know the term for that part, sorry).

> >

> > 2) When I stick my butt out more, the pain is decreased some.

> >

> > 3) When I walk straight (aligned properly),

> snapping/popping/grinding

> > in the anterior groin occur, with very intense pain.

> >

> > What I realized today because of the way I was standing and tried

> > walking:

> >

> > 1) When I rotate my leg inward (so the toes are facing inward and

> not

> > straight forward) I can distribute my weight without pain in the

> > affected side.

> >

> > 2) When I walk with my leg rotated inward, I do not get any

> > snapping/popping/grinding or pain.

> >

> > 3) The further the toes are aimed inward (so, maybe around the 10

> > o'clock position vs. and 11 o'clock position of the right foot) I

> > have the best results.

> >

> > What would all this mean?! My hubby wants me to just walk like

> that

> > since I get relief, but I know that will make other things act

> > up/worse, so I'd rather stick to crutches vs. being malaligned.

> >

> > HELP?!!?!?!?!? =) (please!)

> >

> > superhipchick aka hipsrus

> >

>

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Right now, I do not. I have had 5 various hip surgeries to find a

final fix for what's been going on inside (and every surgery has

dealt with multiple continued issues), but I began researching and

discussing THR, BHR, and MHR in this group after my PT was dicussing

and almost suggesting it to me.

Deb says this is a normal part of the pain/degeneration process prior

to hip replacement/resurfacing...so I am glad to know someone knows

what I am talking about since my DR said he does not.

I'm very sick of dealing with this hip and ready to move forward, no

matter what it takes...but right now, my DR is not indicating any

additional surgeries and said he will talk to some other people about

accupuncture and other physical therapy options.

But, I appreciate the feedback from this group in addition to the

others I'm in, since I obviously am in between groups at this point!!!

Thanks!

> >

> > It's been a long road...but I came to a new realization today I

want

> > to get your feedback on.

> >

> > What I've known/been experiencing/discussed previously with DR:

>

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Superhip, I am sorry and I mean no disrespect towards you but I

think your doctor is an idiot.

Deb

> > >

> > > It's been a long road...but I came to a new realization today

I

> > want

> > > to get your feedback on.

> > >

> > > What I've known/been experiencing/discussed previously with DR:

> > >

> > > 1) When I try to stand straight and distribute my weight on

the

> > > affected side, I get searing pain in the anterior groin that

> > > radiates " down and around " the top of the inner groin/thigh

> > > connection (don't know the term for that part, sorry).

> > >

> > > 2) When I stick my butt out more, the pain is decreased some.

> > >

> > > 3) When I walk straight (aligned properly),

> > snapping/popping/grinding

> > > in the anterior groin occur, with very intense pain.

> > >

> > > What I realized today because of the way I was standing and

tried

> > > walking:

> > >

> > > 1) When I rotate my leg inward (so the toes are facing inward

and

> > not

> > > straight forward) I can distribute my weight without pain in

the

> > > affected side.

> > >

> > > 2) When I walk with my leg rotated inward, I do not get any

> > > snapping/popping/grinding or pain.

> > >

> > > 3) The further the toes are aimed inward (so, maybe around the

10

> > > o'clock position vs. and 11 o'clock position of the right

foot) I

> > > have the best results.

> > >

> > > What would all this mean?! My hubby wants me to just walk like

> > that

> > > since I get relief, but I know that will make other things act

> > > up/worse, so I'd rather stick to crutches vs. being malaligned.

> > >

> > > HELP?!!?!?!?!? =) (please!)

> > >

> > > superhipchick aka hipsrus

> > >

> >

>

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I hear you, but he's not...I've just been a really difficult,

multiple issues patient. He's stuck with me through 5 surgeries, and

never once questioned the reality of the issues (well, not in front

of my face anyway!)...that means alot to me right there, after so

long and so many other DRs giving me the whole " you're too young for

hip problems " routine or one of a zillion other off statements.

I've read alot more today (all day pretty much) and really thinking

it is a ligament issue.

If it is, and I can hold off on a THR or BHR, then I would be

absolutely thrilled.

> > > >

> > > > It's been a long road...but I came to a new realization today

> I

> > > want

> > > > to get your feedback on.

> > > >

> > > > What I've known/been experiencing/discussed previously with

DR:

> > > >

> > > > 1) When I try to stand straight and distribute my weight on

> the

> > > > affected side, I get searing pain in the anterior groin that

> > > > radiates " down and around " the top of the inner groin/thigh

> > > > connection (don't know the term for that part, sorry).

> > > >

> > > > 2) When I stick my butt out more, the pain is decreased some.

> > > >

> > > > 3) When I walk straight (aligned properly),

> > > snapping/popping/grinding

> > > > in the anterior groin occur, with very intense pain.

> > > >

> > > > What I realized today because of the way I was standing and

> tried

> > > > walking:

> > > >

> > > > 1) When I rotate my leg inward (so the toes are facing inward

> and

> > > not

> > > > straight forward) I can distribute my weight without pain in

> the

> > > > affected side.

> > > >

> > > > 2) When I walk with my leg rotated inward, I do not get any

> > > > snapping/popping/grinding or pain.

> > > >

> > > > 3) The further the toes are aimed inward (so, maybe around

the

> 10

> > > > o'clock position vs. and 11 o'clock position of the right

> foot) I

> > > > have the best results.

> > > >

> > > > What would all this mean?! My hubby wants me to just walk

like

> > > that

> > > > since I get relief, but I know that will make other things

act

> > > > up/worse, so I'd rather stick to crutches vs. being

malaligned.

> > > >

> > > > HELP?!!?!?!?!? =) (please!)

> > > >

> > > > superhipchick aka hipsrus

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hi SuperHipChick –

I do believe it should be very easy to

differentiate between a “ligament issue” and osteoarthritis with

one simple x-ray.

I spent two years trying to diagnose my

hip pains. Unfortunately, it kept moving around. Finally, my PCP took one

x-ray and the answer was obvious. I discovered that when the joint doesn’t

move right then it over taxes everything in the area. One day the groin hurts,

the next day it’s bursitis, then the glutes hurt.

Good luck,

From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ] On Behalf Of superhipchick

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008

10:03 PM

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Re: Inward Leg Rotation Relief Question

I hear you, but he's not...I've just been a really

difficult,

multiple issues patient. He's stuck with me through 5 surgeries, and

never once questioned the reality of the issues (well, not in front

of my face anyway!)...that means alot to me right there, after so

long and so many other DRs giving me the whole " you're too young for

hip problems " routine or one of a zillion other off statements.

I've read alot more today (all day pretty much) and really thinking

it is a ligament issue.

If it is, and I can hold off on a THR or BHR, then I would be

absolutely thrilled.

> > > >

> > > > It's been a long road...but I came to a new realization

today

> I

> > > want

> > > > to get your feedback on.

> > > >

> > > > What I've known/been experiencing/discussed previously

with

DR:

> > > >

> > > > 1) When I try to stand straight and distribute my weight on

> the

> > > > affected side, I get searing pain in the anterior groin

that

> > > > radiates " down and around " the top of the inner

groin/thigh

> > > > connection (don't know the term for that part, sorry).

> > > >

> > > > 2) When I stick my butt out more, the pain is decreased

some.

> > > >

> > > > 3) When I walk straight (aligned properly),

> > > snapping/popping/grinding

> > > > in the anterior groin occur, with very intense pain.

> > > >

> > > > What I realized today because of the way I was standing and

> tried

> > > > walking:

> > > >

> > > > 1) When I rotate my leg inward (so the toes are facing

inward

> and

> > > not

> > > > straight forward) I can distribute my weight without pain

in

> the

> > > > affected side.

> > > >

> > > > 2) When I walk with my leg rotated inward, I do not get any

> > > > snapping/popping/grinding or pain.

> > > >

> > > > 3) The further the toes are aimed inward (so, maybe around

the

> 10

> > > > o'clock position vs. and 11 o'clock position of the right

> foot) I

> > > > have the best results.

> > > >

> > > > What would all this mean?! My hubby wants me to just walk

like

> > > that

> > > > since I get relief, but I know that will make other things

act

> > > > up/worse, so I'd rather stick to crutches vs. being

malaligned.

> > > >

> > > > HELP?!!?!?!?!? =) (please!)

> > > >

> > > > superhipchick aka hipsrus

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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I guess so then...and xray done about a month ago (when something

tore inside, but they wanted to make sure the screw was ok) showed no

additional issues to what they found when they were last inside there

about 6 weeks ago...which would point even more to soft tissue issues.

Am I the only one, or after so much of this hip stuff and having to

be our own best advocates has anyone else perhaps thought their

calling should have been as a DR?!

> > > > >

> > > > > It's been a long road...but I came to a new realization

today

> > I

> > > > want

> > > > > to get your feedback on.

> > > > >

> > > > > What I've known/been experiencing/discussed previously with

> DR:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) When I try to stand straight and distribute my weight on

> > the

> > > > > affected side, I get searing pain in the anterior groin

that

> > > > > radiates " down and around " the top of the inner groin/thigh

> > > > > connection (don't know the term for that part, sorry).

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) When I stick my butt out more, the pain is decreased

some.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3) When I walk straight (aligned properly),

> > > > snapping/popping/grinding

> > > > > in the anterior groin occur, with very intense pain.

> > > > >

> > > > > What I realized today because of the way I was standing and

> > tried

> > > > > walking:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) When I rotate my leg inward (so the toes are facing

inward

> > and

> > > > not

> > > > > straight forward) I can distribute my weight without pain

in

> > the

> > > > > affected side.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) When I walk with my leg rotated inward, I do not get any

> > > > > snapping/popping/grinding or pain.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3) The further the toes are aimed inward (so, maybe around

> the

> > 10

> > > > > o'clock position vs. and 11 o'clock position of the right

> > foot) I

> > > > > have the best results.

> > > > >

> > > > > What would all this mean?! My hubby wants me to just walk

> like

> > > > that

> > > > > since I get relief, but I know that will make other things

> act

> > > > > up/worse, so I'd rather stick to crutches vs. being

> malaligned.

> > > > >

> > > > > HELP?!!?!?!?!? =) (please!)

> > > > >

> > > > > superhipchick aka hipsrus

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Are you in fact saying that you have not been diagnosed with

degenerative osteoarthritis of the hip? What exactly has your doctor

told you that you have? I'm sorry but this one has me alternately

scratching my head or wanting to ask your doctor why he would insist

on going to these extreme measures to save a hip that can't be

saved. To put a young woman through this many surgerys when one

little THR or Resurfacing would give her back her life seems almost

like he sees you as a challenge. You stated that if you could hold

off on a THR/BHR you would be thrilled. I think that is because you

do not yet realize how amazingly easy it really is. The one thing

most of us think to ourselves after surgery is this... " why did I

wait so long? " . Good luck dear.

Deb

> > > > >

> > > > > It's been a long road...but I came to a new realization

today

> > I

> > > > want

> > > > > to get your feedback on.

> > > > >

> > > > > What I've known/been experiencing/discussed previously

with

> DR:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) When I try to stand straight and distribute my weight

on

> > the

> > > > > affected side, I get searing pain in the anterior groin

that

> > > > > radiates " down and around " the top of the inner

groin/thigh

> > > > > connection (don't know the term for that part, sorry).

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) When I stick my butt out more, the pain is decreased

some.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3) When I walk straight (aligned properly),

> > > > snapping/popping/grinding

> > > > > in the anterior groin occur, with very intense pain.

> > > > >

> > > > > What I realized today because of the way I was standing

and

> > tried

> > > > > walking:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) When I rotate my leg inward (so the toes are facing

inward

> > and

> > > > not

> > > > > straight forward) I can distribute my weight without pain

in

> > the

> > > > > affected side.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) When I walk with my leg rotated inward, I do not get

any

> > > > > snapping/popping/grinding or pain.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3) The further the toes are aimed inward (so, maybe around

> the

> > 10

> > > > > o'clock position vs. and 11 o'clock position of the right

> > foot) I

> > > > > have the best results.

> > > > >

> > > > > What would all this mean?! My hubby wants me to just walk

> like

> > > > that

> > > > > since I get relief, but I know that will make other things

> act

> > > > > up/worse, so I'd rather stick to crutches vs. being

> malaligned.

> > > > >

> > > > > HELP?!!?!?!?!? =) (please!)

> > > > >

> > > > > superhipchick aka hipsrus

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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I think most of us share Deb's befuddlement as to what in the world is  going on.If you have a hip issue that is causing you to essentially be crippled (from what I understand) and a resurfacing/hip replacement would solve the issue, I can't understand what you are waiting for as the operation will (for almost everyone) completely "cure" the problem -- i.e. you will be without the pain that is crippling you.There are no guarantees of course but most modern OS perform surgery on younger patients (perhaps a resurfacing if possible) because the components (MOM or Ceramic) are so much better than in the old days -- theoretically they will last longer and the patient returns to a life without restrictions -- I had anterior THR and have no restrictions.  Even if you have loyalty to this OS, I would certainly seek out a second opinion from another doctor.No one looks forward to surgery -- almost universally most people wish they had the surgery sooner than they did.On Jan 20, 2008, at 6:32 AM, Deb wrote:Are you in fact saying that you have not been diagnosed with degenerative osteoarthritis of the hip? What exactly has your doctor told you that you have? I'm sorry but this one has me alternately scratching my head or wanting to ask your doctor why he would insist on going to these extreme measures to save a hip that can't be saved. To put a young woman through this many surgerys when one little THR or Resurfacing would give her back her life seems almost like he sees you as a challenge. You stated that if you could hold off on a THR/BHR you would be thrilled. I think that is because you do not yet realize how amazingly easy it really is. The one thing most of us think to ourselves after surgery is this..."why did I wait so long?". Good luck dear.Deb> > > > >> > > > > It's been a long road...but I came to a new realization today > > I > > > > want > > > > > to get your feedback on.> > > > > > > > > > What I've known/been experiencing/discussed previously with > DR:> > > > > > > > > > 1) When I try to stand straight and distribute my weight on > > the > > > > > affected side, I get searing pain in the anterior groin that > > > > > radiates "down and around" the top of the inner groin/thigh > > > > > connection (don't know the term for that part, sorry).> > > > > > > > > > 2) When I stick my butt out more, the pain is decreased some.> > > > > > > > > > 3) When I walk straight (aligned properly), > > > > snapping/popping/grinding > > > > > in the anterior groin occur, with very intense pain.> > > > > > > > > > What I realized today because of the way I was standing and > > tried > > > > > walking:> > > > > > > > > > 1) When I rotate my leg inward (so the toes are facing inward > > and > > > > not > > > > > straight forward) I can distribute my weight without pain in > > the > > > > > affected side.> > > > > > > > > > 2) When I walk with my leg rotated inward, I do not get any > > > > > snapping/popping/grinding or pain.> > > > > > > > > > 3) The further the toes are aimed inward (so, maybe around > the > > 10 > > > > > o'clock position vs. and 11 o'clock position of the right > > foot) I > > > > > have the best results.> > > > > > > > > > What would all this mean?! My hubby wants me to just walk > like > > > > that > > > > > since I get relief, but I know that will make other things > act > > > > > up/worse, so I'd rather stick to crutches vs. being > malaligned.> > > > > > > > > > HELP?!!?!?!?!? =) (please!)> > > > > > > > > > superhipchick aka hipsrus> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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hi all i am writting today about my last visit with the dr that did my total knee replacement i have degenerative osteoarthritis in both legs and joints,the right got so bad that i had to have the total right knee replacement on august 8 2007 ,since then i have not gotten all the bend back and still have lots of trouble walking up and down stairs. i still cannot get down on my hands and knees ,i still have pain from the place where they put the tourniquet to the middle of my leg pain in the leg goes from the middle of the leg sometimes to the knee or the hip, to make a long story short my doctor says it is nothing it is still healing ,also i was to have the other knee and possibly the hip done ,he said cause i was not happy with the out come of this surgery not to do the other one.i am lost now what to do someone told me to check with a another dr and some say to get checked for fibermialga and something called dsr has anyone head of it,i

dont know what to do someone help me to figure this out Deb <cocoisland58@...> wrote: Are you in fact saying that you have not been diagnosed with degenerative osteoarthritis of the hip? What exactly has your doctor told you that you have? I'm sorry but this one has me alternately scratching my head or wanting to ask your doctor why he would insist on going to these extreme measures to save a hip that can't be saved. To put a young woman through this many surgerys when one little THR or

Resurfacing would give her back her life seems almost like he sees you as a challenge. You stated that if you could hold off on a THR/BHR you would be thrilled. I think that is because you do not yet realize how amazingly easy it really is. The one thing most of us think to ourselves after surgery is this..."why did I wait so long?". Good luck dear.Deb> > > > >> > > > > It's been a long road...but I came to a new realization today > > I > > > > want > > > > > to get your feedback on.> > > > > > > > > > What I've known/been experiencing/discussed previously with > DR:> > > > > > > > > > 1) When I try to stand straight and distribute my weight on > > the > > > >

> affected side, I get searing pain in the anterior groin that > > > > > radiates "down and around" the top of the inner groin/thigh > > > > > connection (don't know the term for that part, sorry).> > > > > > > > > > 2) When I stick my butt out more, the pain is decreased some.> > > > > > > > > > 3) When I walk straight (aligned properly), > > > > snapping/popping/grinding > > > > > in the anterior groin occur, with very intense pain.> > > > > > > > > > What I realized today because of the way I was standing and > > tried > > > > > walking:> > > > > > > > > > 1) When I rotate my leg inward (so the toes are facing inward > > and > > > > not > > > > >

straight forward) I can distribute my weight without pain in > > the > > > > > affected side.> > > > > > > > > > 2) When I walk with my leg rotated inward, I do not get any > > > > > snapping/popping/grinding or pain.> > > > > > > > > > 3) The further the toes are aimed inward (so, maybe around > the > > 10 > > > > > o'clock position vs. and 11 o'clock position of the right > > foot) I > > > > > have the best results.> > > > > > > > > > What would all this mean?! My hubby wants me to just walk > like > > > > that > > > > > since I get relief, but I know that will make other things > act > > > > > up/worse, so I'd rather stick to crutches vs. being >

malaligned.> > > > > > > > > > HELP?!!?!?!?!? =) (please!)> > > > > > > > > > superhipchick aka hipsrus> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Hi linda: I have fibro and rsd. They are both very pain full. I also have diabetic neuroapthy.

I have had 2 total knees and a partial shoulder My first knee was done it will be 13yrs ago. Then about 71/2 yrs ago the second one was done. My shoulder was it will be 2 yrs next month. But due to rsd I can move arm much at all. I can lift up over my head unless I do it with my right hand.

Love Rosie

Re: Re: Inward Leg Rotation Relief Question

hi all i am writting today about my last visit with the dr that did my total knee replacement

i have degenerative osteoarthritis in both legs and joints,the right got so bad that i had to have the total right knee replacement on august 8 2007 ,since then i have not gotten all the bend back and still have lots of trouble walking up and down stairs. i still cannot get down on my hands and knees ,i still have pain from the place where they put the tourniquet to the middle of my leg pain in the leg goes from the middle of the leg sometimes to the knee or the hip, to make a long story short my doctor says it is nothing it is still healing ,also i was to have the other knee and possibly the hip done ,he said cause i was not happy with the out come of this surgery not to do the other one.i am lost now what to do someone told me to check with a another dr and some say to get checked for fibermialga and something called dsr has anyone head of it,i dont know what to do someone help me to figure this out

Deb <cocoisland58 > wrote:

Are you in fact saying that you have not been diagnosed with degenerative osteoarthritis of the hip? What exactly has your doctor told you that you have? I'm sorry but this one has me alternately scratching my head or wanting to ask your doctor why he would insist on going to these extreme measures to save a hip that can't be saved. To put a young woman through this many surgerys when one little THR or Resurfacing would give her back her life seems almost like he sees you as a challenge. You stated that if you could hold off on a THR/BHR you would be thrilled. I think that is because you do not yet realize how amazingly easy it really is. The one thing most of us think to ourselves after surgery is this..."why did I wait so long?". Good luck dear.Deb> > > > >> > > > > It's been a long road...but I came to a new realization today > > I > > > > want > > > > > to get your feedback on.> > > > > > > > > > What I've known/been experiencing/discussed previously with > DR:> > > > > > > > > > 1) When I try to stand straight and distribute my weight on > > the > > > > > affected side, I get searing pain in the anterior groin that > > > > > radiates "down and around" the top of the inner groin/thigh > > > > > connection (don't know the term for that part, sorry).> > > > > > > > > > 2) When I stick my butt out more, the pain is decreased some.> > > > > > > > > > 3) When I walk straight (aligned properly), > > > > snapping/popping/grinding > > > > > in the anterior groin occur, with very intense pain.> > > > > > > > > > What I realized today because of the way I was standing and > > tried > > > > > walking:> > > > > > > > > > 1) When I rotate my leg inward (so the toes are facing inward > > and > > > > not > > > > > straight forward) I can distribute my weight without pain in > > the > > > > > affected side.> > > > > > > > > > 2) When I walk with my leg rotated inward, I do not get any > > > > > snapping/popping/grinding or pain.> > > > > > > > > > 3) The further the toes are aimed inward (so, maybe around > the > > 10 > > > > > o'clock position vs. and 11 o'clock position of the right > > foot) I > > > > > have the best results.> > > > > > > > > > What would all this mean?! My hubby wants me to just walk > like > > > > that > > > > > since I get relief, but I know that will make other things > act > > > > > up/worse, so I'd rather stick to crutches vs. being > malaligned.> > > > > > > > > > HELP?!!?!?!?!? =) (please!)> > > > > > > > > > superhipchick aka hipsrus> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Hi Deb~

Here's how it's gone:

Pain in hip misdiagnosed as many things, possible stress fractures,

referred pain from my known back issue, etc. for numerous years (over

10).

Then bounced around from DR to DR to try to figure out what was going

on (I'll spare you all the details) until I was finally in tears and

finally diagnosed with labral tears. Artroscopic surgery for that,

stage 2 cartilage degeneration diagnosed in post-op report.

Problems again only months later, bounced around no one knew, then

finally referred to a DR who diagnosed me with a retroverted

acetabulum, impingement, and mild dysplasia. PAO for that, recover

included a round of DVT and I had 6 months of anti-coagulant

injection therapy (lovenox) after the coumadin began making my hair

come out (thin, but not all the way thankfully since I stopped the

coumadin).

Problems again only months later, eventually after more testing

diagnosed with internal psoas snapping hip, but we wanted to ensure

there wasn't anything going on intra-articular so I had arthroscopic

for that, a noted " floppy " labrum, but still had problems post-op and

3 weeks later they did a psoas tenotomy...told that it was in 3

strands inside.

Some mild popping post-op, but kept things in a pop-free zone and was

pretty good to go for 5-6 months until problems began full on again

very quickly going downhill, diagnosistic injections pointed to intra-

articular issues and bursitis, waited for surgery again and had it

this past Dec. Post-op report states a bursectomy, debridement, stage

4 deterioration and arthritis, and an iliac osteotomy.

Along with all of this, I developed meralgia paresthetica from the

surgeries, including and area about the size of my hand just above my

knee that turns blue (like you can see the veins) with very intense

numbness when I lift my leg or stand too long on the affected side.

Something tore inside 10 days post-op and I was unable to lift my leg

(flexion) without excruciating pain. But, once things seemed to be

getting on a little better from that is when popping began again,

first without pain, then with transient pain, then with pain that has

lasted the last 2 weeks, including just hurting even when I just put

body weight on the joint....unless I internally rotate the leg I

noticed. Also, the area where they placed the screw something is

catching on or something and it pops when I rotate my leg internall

or externally, with or without weight on it...it doesn't kill, just a

throbby ache...and yes, I told my DR all about all of this.

So yes, I have been diagnosed with arthritis, but my DR told us a

couple days ago at appt. that the joint space looks good on the xray

from a month ago, that the extent of my arthritis shouldn't be

causing the pain I feel, and that the joint looked good when he was

inside...hence, my somewhat confused posts. Sorry.

So, from surgery #1 on the hip to surgery #5, just over 3 years. I

didn't expect things to go so quickly, as the PAO should have

prevented further deterioration/tears for longer, but from what I've

read it also depends on what stage things are to begin with...which

is what my DR has said before...my body just went too long with the

malalignment.

But, with no physical exam and no additional testing, and knowing we

are moving in 5 months I just need and want to know what is going on

and what I can do about it so that I can get my life back...even if

that means a THR or BHR...but, after all of that and a shoulder and

back surgery also in the last 3 years, that's why I said I'd be happy

if I didn't have to have one of those surgeries...not because I

wouldn't want final relief from all of this, just that I've been

through alot already!

Thanks for caring Deb.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It's been a long road...but I came to a new realization

> today

> > > I

> > > > > want

> > > > > > to get your feedback on.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What I've known/been experiencing/discussed previously

> with

> > DR:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) When I try to stand straight and distribute my weight

> on

> > > the

> > > > > > affected side, I get searing pain in the anterior groin

> that

> > > > > > radiates " down and around " the top of the inner

> groin/thigh

> > > > > > connection (don't know the term for that part, sorry).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2) When I stick my butt out more, the pain is decreased

> some.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3) When I walk straight (aligned properly),

> > > > > snapping/popping/grinding

> > > > > > in the anterior groin occur, with very intense pain.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What I realized today because of the way I was standing

> and

> > > tried

> > > > > > walking:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) When I rotate my leg inward (so the toes are facing

> inward

> > > and

> > > > > not

> > > > > > straight forward) I can distribute my weight without pain

> in

> > > the

> > > > > > affected side.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2) When I walk with my leg rotated inward, I do not get

> any

> > > > > > snapping/popping/grinding or pain.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3) The further the toes are aimed inward (so, maybe

around

> > the

> > > 10

> > > > > > o'clock position vs. and 11 o'clock position of the right

> > > foot) I

> > > > > > have the best results.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What would all this mean?! My hubby wants me to just walk

> > like

> > > > > that

> > > > > > since I get relief, but I know that will make other

things

> > act

> > > > > > up/worse, so I'd rather stick to crutches vs. being

> > malaligned.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > HELP?!!?!?!?!? =) (please!)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > superhipchick aka hipsrus

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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I see now. A THR or BHR would not really solve your problems at this

point because the issues are not entirely within the hip socket and

even within that space you still have cartilage. You have a unique

case in that you don't have one issue but multiple issues. We are so

used to arthritic hips in this group that we forget that there are

many people suffering from hip problems not associated with it. You

might do a search for Totally Hip Message Board. There are people

there that have other hip issues and possibly can help. It's a good

group.

Deb

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It's been a long road...but I came to a new

realization

> > today

> > > > I

> > > > > > want

> > > > > > > to get your feedback on.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What I've known/been experiencing/discussed previously

> > with

> > > DR:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1) When I try to stand straight and distribute my

weight

> > on

> > > > the

> > > > > > > affected side, I get searing pain in the anterior

groin

> > that

> > > > > > > radiates " down and around " the top of the inner

> > groin/thigh

> > > > > > > connection (don't know the term for that part, sorry).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2) When I stick my butt out more, the pain is

decreased

> > some.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3) When I walk straight (aligned properly),

> > > > > > snapping/popping/grinding

> > > > > > > in the anterior groin occur, with very intense pain.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What I realized today because of the way I was

standing

> > and

> > > > tried

> > > > > > > walking:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1) When I rotate my leg inward (so the toes are facing

> > inward

> > > > and

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > straight forward) I can distribute my weight without

pain

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > > affected side.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2) When I walk with my leg rotated inward, I do not

get

> > any

> > > > > > > snapping/popping/grinding or pain.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3) The further the toes are aimed inward (so, maybe

> around

> > > the

> > > > 10

> > > > > > > o'clock position vs. and 11 o'clock position of the

right

> > > > foot) I

> > > > > > > have the best results.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What would all this mean?! My hubby wants me to just

walk

> > > like

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > since I get relief, but I know that will make other

> things

> > > act

> > > > > > > up/worse, so I'd rather stick to crutches vs. being

> > > malaligned.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > HELP?!!?!?!?!? =) (please!)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > superhipchick aka hipsrus

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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HI ROSIE ,THANKS FOR THE REPLAY MY LEGS AND HIPS HURT REALLY BAD SOMETIMES THE SHOULDERS AND BACK THE SAME , THE DR FIRST THOUGHT I HAD RESTLESS LEG SYNDROM AND IT JUST ISNT BETTER THE LEGS THROB WITH SO MUCH PAIN IF I WALK A LOT IT HURTS AND SINCE THE SURGERY MY LEG IS ALWAYS COLD AND I HAVE TO WEAR SOCKS ALL THE TIME OR MY FEET GET COLD AND I CANNOT STAND IT TILL I PUT SOCKS ON,I WENT BACK TO THE DR ON FRIDAY AND HE SAYS THERE IS NOTHING MORE HE CAN DO ,SOMETIMES I DONT THINK IT IS A ROTATION PROBLEM ,BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THINK IT IS THE MORE EXERCIXE I DO WITH IT THE MORE IT HURTS ,WALKING CLIMBING STANDING I DONT KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO AGAIN THANKS FOR THE REPLY roro1390@... wrote: Hi linda: I have fibro and rsd. They are both very pain full. I also have diabetic neuroapthy. I have had 2 total knees and a partial shoulder My first knee was done it will be 13yrs ago. Then about 71/2 yrs ago the second one was done. My shoulder was it will be 2 yrs next month. But due to rsd I can move arm much at all. I can lift up over my head unless I do it with my right hand. Love Rosie Re: Re: Inward Leg Rotation Relief Question hi all i am writting today about my

last visit with the dr that did my total knee replacement i have degenerative osteoarthritis in both legs and joints,the right got so bad that i had to have the total right knee replacement on august 8 2007 ,since then i have not gotten all the bend back and still have lots of trouble walking up and down stairs. i still cannot get down on my hands and knees ,i still have pain from the place where they put the tourniquet to the middle of my leg pain in the leg goes from the middle of the leg sometimes to the knee or the hip, to make a long story short my doctor says it is nothing it is still healing ,also i was to have the other knee and possibly the hip done ,he said cause i was not happy with the out come of this surgery not to do the other one.i am lost now what to do someone told me to check with a another dr and some say to get checked for fibermialga and something called dsr has anyone head of it,i dont know what to do someone help

me to figure this out Deb <cocoisland58 > wrote: Are you in fact saying that you have not been diagnosed with degenerative osteoarthritis of the hip? What exactly has your doctor told you that you have? I'm sorry but this one has me alternately scratching my head or wanting to ask your doctor why he would insist on going to these extreme measures to save a hip that can't be saved. To put a young woman through this many surgerys when one little THR or Resurfacing would give her back her life seems almost like he sees you as a challenge. You stated that if you could hold off on a THR/BHR you would be thrilled. I think that is because you do not yet realize how amazingly easy it really is. The one thing most of us think to ourselves after surgery is this..."why did I wait so long?".

Good luck dear.Deb> > > > >> > > > > It's been a long road...but I came to a new realization today > > I > > > > want > > > > > to get your feedback on.> > > > > > > > > > What I've known/been experiencing/discussed previously with > DR:> > > > > > > > > > 1) When I try to stand straight and distribute my weight on > > the > > > > > affected side, I get searing pain in the anterior groin that > > > > > radiates "down and around" the top of the inner groin/thigh > > > > > connection (don't know the term for that part, sorry).> > > > > >

> > > > 2) When I stick my butt out more, the pain is decreased some.> > > > > > > > > > 3) When I walk straight (aligned properly), > > > > snapping/popping/grinding > > > > > in the anterior groin occur, with very intense pain.> > > > > > > > > > What I realized today because of the way I was standing and > > tried > > > > > walking:> > > > > > > > > > 1) When I rotate my leg inward (so the toes are facing inward > > and > > > > not > > > > > straight forward) I can distribute my weight without pain in > > the > > > > > affected side.> > > > > > > > > > 2) When I walk with my leg rotated inward, I do not get any > > > > >

snapping/popping/grinding or pain.> > > > > > > > > > 3) The further the toes are aimed inward (so, maybe around > the > > 10 > > > > > o'clock position vs. and 11 o'clock position of the right > > foot) I > > > > > have the best results.> > > > > > > > > > What would all this mean?! My hubby wants me to just walk > like > > > > that > > > > > since I get relief, but I know that will make other things > act > > > > > up/worse, so I'd rather stick to crutches vs. being > malaligned.> > > > > > > > > > HELP?!!?!?!?!? =) (please!)> > > > > > > > > > superhipchick aka hipsrus> > > > >> > > >> > >>

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