MSM and alcohol tolerance

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Hello friendly group members ...

Well...I lurk but do not post. I have learned much from this forum; thanks,

all.

.....We have been 'talking' much of MSM recently...I have a Puzzling Question on

topic.

A couple-three weeks ago, my 63-year-old 'boyfriend' injured his elbow (using a

pry bar in some de-construction activity). He is not subject to frequent

injuries and is, in general, in Superb Health...doesn't take any Rx (aside from

an occasional recreational Cialis) and takes a good multivitamin and fish

oil...well, not every single day, but several times a week. I think he mebbe

drinks a LITTLE too much but I have been hangin' with him for going on two

years, and he is *NOT* subject to Outright Drunken-ness, if you see my point.

Anyhow...I started him on MSM for his elbow injury Friday...a gram in the

morning and a gram in the evening. Same Saturday. He said it wasn't upsetting

his stomach or anything, so yesterday morning, I ramped him up to 2 grams in the

morning...his elbow is causing him a lot of trouble and he is engaged in

building himself a cabin at the moment, so being injured is problematic for him,

and he and I want that elbow to Get Well Soon.

...

So....I went down to his job site yesterday afternoon and picked him up to go

out to PF Chang's for an early (5pm) dinner. He had three glasses of wine with

dinner and proceeded to appear to become ***QUITE*** drunk, which state

continued well after we got home and had an Early Night.

And then this morning, he said he didn't remember everything that had happened.

" !!! "

So I asked him, did he mebbe Happen To Snork Up some bourbon down on yon job

site, whilst waiting for me to arrive? Because I have seen him drink, yanno,

three glasses of wine and NOT become perceptibly DRUNKEN At All, hmm. He SWEARS

UP AND DOWN to me that he only drank two-three beers in the afternoon before I

picked him up...

....I TRULY don't think he is v. likely to be lying on this count...aside from,

perhaps he mis-counted/fudged and had mebbe four beers. I mean to say, I like

to have a drink or three myself, and have never been known to nag him about,

say, having a couple beers and then having wine with dinner, if you see what I

mean.

So ::: we are both more than puzzled about how he would become sooooo

intoxicated as to have a ***blackout memory loss*** after three beers (over the

course of an afternoon...noonish to 4-5pm) and then three

**five-ounce- " restaurant " -sized glasses** of merlot over the course of an hour,

hour-and-a-half meal.

The only thing I can figure would be different than any other day would be the

MSM.

So I got up and googled a bit this morning on MSM and alcohol...mostly, the only

pertinent bit which I was able to come up with was:

http://www.msm-msm.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=3 & t=10

Aside from the above, I was not able to find any helpful information.

.....So my question today is :::: have any of y'all heard of MSM causing a

diminishment of alcohol tolerance?

Very Puzzled regards from

~ ruby ~

[Guest guest]

We know that MSM changes (increases, normalizes) the permeability of the

cell wall. the question for you to answer us: how does a more permeable

cell affect alcoholic beverage ingestion?

PubMed has a whole bunch of studies citing MSM use and it's effect on

oxidation----------which has to do with what alcohol is doing in the body.

Here are some easy things I

found...........................................................................\

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MSM - Methylsulfonylmethane http://www.survivalcenter.com/msm.html and

http://www.falconblanco.com/health/msm/faq.html copied by slp Mon Mar 28

2011

When you digest the food and it goes into the bloodstream, the Candida

steals it. So you don't assimilate your nutrition, the glands don't get

their vitamins and minerals so you develop allergies to foods, pollens and

fragrances. You also don't have any energy because the Candida is a living

organism and digests food like you do and puts out toxins, like you do that

are floating in your blood stream. When those toxins are added to your

toxins, it can simulate 80 different diseases that you don't have. When it

simulates strep throat, the doctor gives you an antibiotic and kills the

acidopholus, keeping the pH out of balance. It then simulates pneumonia, . .

.. the doctor gives you more antibiotics and it then simulates sinus

infection. Every three or four weeks, you have a cold or flu and you feel

terrible. This becomes a vicious, painful, and costly cycle.

Candida is a living yeast and can turn any bread you eat into blood alcohol.

Blood alcohol is a blood sugar. When the body has adjusted to a high blood

sugar content and it suddenly drops, you go into a mood swing like a

diabetic and feel terrible. So, you crave bread, cookies, or alcohol to kick

up the blood sugar. This is why bars have so much pretzels, breadsticks and

popcorn for their patrons ... it makes them feel good. When they're driving

in a car they always have cookies, soda pop and candy at hand or when

they're watching TV they surround themselves with junk food.

*If you want to see if someone has a Candida yeast infection, lay out a corn

curl, potato chip, or cookie. When you turn away, it's gone. Of couse this a

joke and not to be taken seriously. Hunger may be the reason for stealing

your potato chip.*

When you take MSM your pH goes normal. Candida can not live in your body

when your pH is normal-except in the colon where it belongs, so the Candida

dies out. This is how MSM cures people of Candida. Just that simple.

Becareful, you may start doing strange things. You may go looking for fresh

fruit stands. When you find fruit-ripe off the tree, you want to inhale

them.

...........................Candida can turn any bread in your diet into blood

alcohol. Blood alcohol is a blood sugar. When this happens, the body

readjusts itself for a high blood sugar content and you suddenly drop into a

mood swing and you feel terrible. Some people can actually eat 4 or 5 pieces

of bread and get drunk. The bars have lots of pretzels and breadsticks

because it satisfies Candida’s craving for bread and keeps the blood sugar

content high. If enough MSM is taken the pH becomes normal and Candida can't

live anywhere accept in the colon where it belongs. MSM makes it possible

for an alcoholic to come down off the alcohol without any of the withdrawal

side effects.

............. I was very sick with a bad hangover, a fun night out ended with

a crash. I heard about MSM and how it flushes alcohol and other toxins out

of your system and decided to try it. I took two tablespoons and in about 20

minutes I felt fine, the hangover crashed and burned, not me. Here's how

it works: When you drink alcohol it gets into your cells and is trapped

disallowing oxygen to get in. The cells die of oxygen starvation, causing

you to feel ill. MSM makes the cell walls permeable so that the alcohol can

be flushed out, along with other toxins, and oxygen can get in. Your body

will begin to feel better and the hangover will be gone in a very short time

(approximately 20 minutes).

http://www.naturalpedia.com/S/Stomach-alcohol.html

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:34 PM, arubyinthedust

<arubyinthedust@...>wrote:

> ....So my question today is :::: have any of y'all heard of MSM causing

> a diminishment of alcohol tolerance? Very Puzzled regards from

>

> ~ ruby ~

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Rose, not much theft of nutrients occurs in the bloodstream by candida or other

infection. If the bloodstream contains more than a tiny population, toxic shock

syndrome ensues. This is very serious; can be fatal.

MSM is not a candida cure. Blood pH is always " normal " regardless of MSM.

Candida lives in normal pH conditions, and also in pH that is much higher and

lower than blood's 7.35.

Blood alcohol isn't sugar, and fermentation does not occur on blood alcohol

because it's a final waste product.

Following the last line, yup, reading myths may well induce you to do strange

things.

all good,

Duncan

>

> When you digest the food and it goes into the bloodstream, the Candida steals

it.

> Candida is a living yeast and can turn any bread you eat into blood alcohol.

Blood alcohol is a blood sugar.

> When you take MSM your pH goes normal. Candida can not live in your body when

your pH is normal-except in the colon where it belongs, so the Candida

> dies out. This is how MSM cures people of Candida. Just that simple.

> Becareful, you may start doing strange things.