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I realize I was not clear with all my statements, so thank you for your

patience.

I use them both today. I formerly used the Sonicare to brush teeth, but I still

used a manual brush for the larger head to brush my mouth because a larger head

felt better to me to do this step. I finally decided to try a spinbrush which

has a larger bristle area and purchased one a few months ago and now I am

spoiled. So I am all electric now.

I still stick with the Sonicare for the up and down action that it provides and

the narrower brush design. I still think that is the best design to get into the

grooves of teeth. So the spinbrush has only replaced my manual brush's role.

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From: Silva <silvaworks@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 5:09:28 PM

Subject: Re: Re: OT - Tooth decay options

Please clarify the contridiction in these statements.

If you really liked the Sonicare, why did you get a spinning brush? What kept

you from getting another brush that you " really liked " ?

-richard-

I have also acquired two mechanical toothbrushes over a few years.

First was Sonicare and then, last year, Crest Spinbrush.

I really liked my Sonicare, which was my first purchase.

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I use both of these brushes as well...for the same reasons.

Joan

I use them both today. I formerly used the Sonicare to brush teeth, but I still

used a manual brush for the larger head to brush my mouth because a larger head

felt better to me to do this step. I finally decided to try a spinbrush which

has a larger bristle area and purchased one a few months ago and now I am

spoiled. So I am all electric now.

I still stick with the Sonicare for the up and down action that it provides and

the narrower brush design. I still think that is the best design to get into the

grooves of teeth. So the spinbrush has only replaced my manual brush's role.

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From: Silva <silvaworks@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 5:09:28 PM

Subject: Re: Re: OT - Tooth decay options

Please clarify the contridiction in these statements.

If you really liked the Sonicare, why did you get a spinning brush? What kept

you from getting another brush that you " really liked " ?

-richard-

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How about that. :-)

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From: Joan Dwyer <rosegardenstudio@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 6:16:46 PM

Subject: RE: Re: OT - Tooth decay options

I use both of these brushes as well...for the same reasons.

Joan

I use them both today. I formerly used the Sonicare to brush teeth, but I still

used a manual brush for the larger head to brush my mouth because a larger head

felt better to me to do this step. I finally decided to try a spinbrush which

has a larger bristle area and purchased one a few months ago and now I am

spoiled. So I am all electric now.

I still stick with the Sonicare for the up and down action that it provides and

the narrower brush design. I still think that is the best design to get into the

grooves of teeth. So the spinbrush has only replaced my manual brush's role.

________________________________

From: Silva <silvaworks@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 5:09:28 PM

Subject: Re: Re: OT - Tooth decay options

Please clarify the contridiction in these statements.

If you really liked the Sonicare, why did you get a spinning brush? What kept

you from getting another brush that you " really liked " ?

-richard-

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If you're looking for an alternative to toothpaste that's natural and effective,

there's an herbal powder from India that I think just can't be beat. I've been

using it for a year, and I've had one cavity " repair " itself, and my dental

health has never been better. I buy it off of eBay

from...http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Vicco-Herbal-Tooth-Powder-100-Gram-100-Veg-12-49-/1\

70593650144?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 & hash=item27b82c85e0

This link is for two containers (about $12.50 with shipping), and I've found

that even with brushing three times a day with it, one container lasts about 9

months, so it's pretty much a bargain...not to mention what I've saved in dental

bills. And as Duncan says, nothing beats flossing, so I also attribute that

twice daily habit to my good teeth. I also agree that a power toothbrush (I use

a Spinbrush) is an excellent habit. I started using a Spinbrush after breaking

my right arm and finding it too difficult to do a good job with a manual brush

in my left hand. I'll never go back to manual.

M

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You can find a much better price on this if you go on indianblend.com

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From: moontidearts <moontidearts@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 6:52:54 PM

Subject: Re: OT - Tooth decay options

If you're looking for an alternative to toothpaste that's natural and effective,

there's an herbal powder from India that I think just can't be beat. I've been

using it for a year, and I've had one cavity " repair " itself, and my dental

health has never been better. I buy it off of eBay

from...http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Vicco-Herbal-Tooth-Powder-100-Gram-100-Veg-12-49-/1\

70593650144?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 & hash=item27b82c85e0

This link is for two containers (about $12.50 with shipping), and I've found

that even with brushing three times a day with it, one container lasts about 9

months, so it's pretty much a bargain...not to mention what I've saved in dental

bills. And as Duncan says, nothing beats flossing, so I also attribute that

twice daily habit to my good teeth. I also agree that a power toothbrush (I use

a Spinbrush) is an excellent habit. I started using a Spinbrush after breaking

my right arm and finding it too difficult to do a good job with a manual brush

in my left hand. I'll never go back to manual.

M

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Thanks much for that. I've already found a few things I need.

M

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> You can find a much better price on this if you go on indianblend.com

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> From: moontidearts <moontidearts@...>

> Coconut Oil

> Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 6:52:54 PM

> Subject: Re: OT - Tooth decay options

>

>

> If you're looking for an alternative to toothpaste that's natural and

effective,

> there's an herbal powder from India that I think just can't be beat. I've been

> using it for a year, and I've had one cavity " repair " itself, and my dental

> health has never been better. I buy it off of eBay

>

from...http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Vicco-Herbal-Tooth-Powder-100-Gram-100-Veg-12-49-/1\

70593650144?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 & hash=item27b82c85e0

>

> This link is for two containers (about $12.50 with shipping), and I've found

> that even with brushing three times a day with it, one container lasts about 9

> months, so it's pretty much a bargain...not to mention what I've saved in

dental

> bills. And as Duncan says, nothing beats flossing, so I also attribute that

> twice daily habit to my good teeth. I also agree that a power toothbrush (I

use

> a Spinbrush) is an excellent habit. I started using a Spinbrush after breaking

> my right arm and finding it too difficult to do a good job with a manual brush

> in my left hand. I'll never go back to manual.

>

> M

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Duncan,

Since you like to hand out unsolicited advice so freely, I have some for you:

Get an ego adjustment. Hopefully there's a practitioner in your neighborhood.

Dee

>

> With respect, Bruce, any oral hygienist will tell you that plenty of junk

doesn't get swished out, and anyone who tries flossing after swishing will see

food particles and softer calculus that sticks to the floss. My advice is that

your advice will look more accurate if you avoid saying swishing is superior;

adjuvant therapy is a better term :)

>

> Ever considered colloidal silver pulling? It's what they're doing over in the

silver community.

>

> all good,

>

> Duncan

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Bruce,

Thanks for clearing that up for those not familiar with oil pulling. I suffered

from gum problems for years despite all the flossing and brushing. It wasn't

until I began oil pulling that they cleared up. My teeth tightened and no more

bleeding or soreness - even when I sometimes forget to floss.

All the best,

Dee

>

> I would like to clear up some confusion about oil pulling. The name " oil

> pulling " is actually very descriptive of what is going on. While swishing

> oil in the mouth, the oil is actually pulling germs, mucus, and pus from the

> mouth-cleaning the teeth and gums better than flossing or brushing, although

> they are important too. It does not, however, pull toxins out of the

> bloodstream and into the mouth. That would be impossible. But the fact that

> it does pull disease-causing bacteria and viruses from the mouth has

> far-reaching health consequences. These germs are constantly seeping into

> the bloodstream and cause a lot of health problems. By removing the source

> of the problem, the body is able to detox better and healing results. I go

> into detail on this process in my book " Oil Pulling Therapy " and back it up

> with references to literally hundreds of published studies. Many of the

> early studies were performed by Dr. Weston A. Price. His research on this

> topic was incredible.

>

>

>

> Bruce

>

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I am going to get the paste and the powder because I read your ebay link fully

and it says to rub the paste onto your gums after brushing with the powder. That

will be great to do at night.

As for their other stuff, I don't know " indian. " :o) But maybe I will call them

Monday and ask some questions and make it more worth the shipping.

What did you find so quick?

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From: moontidearts <moontidearts@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 8:40:48 PM

Subject: Re: OT - Tooth decay options

Thanks much for that. I've already found a few things I need.

M

>

> You can find a much better price on this if you go on indianblend.com

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: moontidearts <moontidearts@...>

> Coconut Oil

> Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 6:52:54 PM

> Subject: Re: OT - Tooth decay options

>

>

> If you're looking for an alternative to toothpaste that's natural and

>effective,

>

> there's an herbal powder from India that I think just can't be beat. I've been

> using it for a year, and I've had one cavity " repair " itself, and my dental

> health has never been better. I buy it off of eBay

>from...http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Vicco-Herbal-Tooth-Powder-100-Gram-100-Veg-12-49-/\

170593650144?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 & hash=item27b82c85e0

>0

>

> This link is for two containers (about $12.50 with shipping), and I've found

> that even with brushing three times a day with it, one container lasts about 9

> months, so it's pretty much a bargain...not to mention what I've saved in

>dental

>

> bills. And as Duncan says, nothing beats flossing, so I also attribute that

> twice daily habit to my good teeth. I also agree that a power toothbrush (I

use

>

> a Spinbrush) is an excellent habit. I started using a Spinbrush after breaking

> my right arm and finding it too difficult to do a good job with a manual brush

> in my left hand. I'll never go back to manual.

>

> M

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dee, Back at you; try not to be such an Asshole.

all good,

Duncan

> >

> > With respect, Bruce, any oral hygienist will tell you that plenty of junk

doesn't get swished out, and anyone who tries flossing after swishing will see

food particles and softer calculus that sticks to the floss. My advice is that

your advice will look more accurate if you avoid saying swishing is superior;

adjuvant therapy is a better term :)

> >

> > Ever considered colloidal silver pulling? It's what they're doing over in

the silver community.

> >

> > all good,

> >

> > Duncan

>

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You can call me any vile name you want to Duncan but your conduct on this list

speaks for itself.

Dee

> > >

> > > With respect, Bruce, any oral hygienist will tell you that plenty of junk

doesn't get swished out, and anyone who tries flossing after swishing will see

food particles and softer calculus that sticks to the floss. My advice is that

your advice will look more accurate if you avoid saying swishing is superior;

adjuvant therapy is a better term :)

> > >

> > > Ever considered colloidal silver pulling? It's what they're doing over in

the silver community.

> > >

> > > all good,

> > >

> > > Duncan

> >

>

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Sorry Duncan, but oral hygienists don't know anything about oil pulling, so

their opinion would be meaningless in this respect. Have you tried oil

pulling? I doubt it because if you have, you would know that it is superior

to flossing. Even after flossing, oil pulling will pull out hidden food

debris that the brushing and flossing have missed. It is actually amazing

how much debris is missed.

My statement that oil pulling is superior to brushing and flossing comes

from both personal experience and from published studies. I've mentioned

several studies in my book to verify this fact. However, I don't recommend

replacing brushing with oil pulling. I suggest using both. Brushing does a

good job with removing plaque, which is constantly building up on the teeth,

especially when the diet contains a lot of sugar and starch.

Keep in mind that Weston A Price found that people who had healthy mouths

did not need to brush their teeth. The indigenous peoples he studied never

brushed their teeth but had little tooth decay or gun disease. The

environment of the mouth is the most important and oil pulling helps to

achieve a healthy mouth.

Bruce

From: Coconut Oil

[mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of Duncan Crow

Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 3:02 PM

Coconut Oil

Subject: Re: OT - Tooth decay options

With respect, Bruce, any oral hygienist will tell you that plenty of junk

doesn't get swished out, and anyone who tries flossing after swishing will

see food particles and softer calculus that sticks to the floss. My advice

is that your advice will look more accurate if you avoid saying swishing is

superior; adjuvant therapy is a better term :)

Ever considered colloidal silver pulling? It's what they're doing over in

the silver community.

all good,

Duncan

> >

> > Posted by: " Lyn K " on Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:08 pm (PST)

> > > I want to encourage you that YES, oil pulling will be good for him. I

> > > would try to get him to do it more than once each day.

> >

> > I'm curious... I recall reading somewhere that oil-pulling was most

> > beneficial if only certain oils were used... and specifically coconut

> > oil was not one of the recommended oils... I think sesame, and maybe

> > sunflower oils were the ones most recommended...

> >

> > Comments?

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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That is so true. I'm a very careful flosser and I'm always amazed at how much

more oil pulling releases.

On Feb 21, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Bruce Fife <bruce@...> wrote:

> Even after flossing, oil pulling will pull out hidden food

> debris that the brushing and flossing have missed. It is actually amazing

> how much debris is missed.

>

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Well, Bruce, I still call it oil " swishing " so fewer people are confused with

the poor choice of teminology tha calls it " pulling " , and I note I can swish

with anything that's liquid, but yes I have done it with coconut oil and also

olive oil.

For one week, after which I flossed threads of meat protein and vegetable fiber

that were caught between the teeth. They are actually held fast and I have to

floss them out. Can hardly get the floss in there. If the debris was just packed

in the spaces and not actually held between teeth I'm sure it woulda worked.

Swishing seems to be great for clearing stuff that is loose but I still had to

floss.

My technique is that I swish well, then floss, then brushm, then swish real hard

and thoroughly with peroxide mouthwash. You can keep the oil :)

I think a lot of people who gravitated to swishing probably practiced poor

dental hygeine before they started. They are satisfied that at least they are

doing something. I predict that oil swishing will be seen as an adjuvant rather

than primary dental care tha you said it could be.

I still think calling it " oil pulling " is unfortunate. I know it's misleading

people into thinking it pulls toxins from the tissues in the nmouth, and that

point will have to be corrected. Thanks for writing in and correcting it a

couple of times.

all good,

Duncan

> > >

> > > Posted by: " Lyn K " on Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:08 pm (PST)

> > > > I want to encourage you that YES, oil pulling will be good for him. I

> > > > would try to get him to do it more than once each day.

> > >

> > > I'm curious... I recall reading somewhere that oil-pulling was most

> > > beneficial if only certain oils were used... and specifically coconut

> > > oil was not one of the recommended oils... I think sesame, and maybe

> > > sunflower oils were the ones most recommended...

> > >

> > > Comments?

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I have to agree here 100% with Duncan.

From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

Subject: Re: OT - Tooth decay options

Coconut Oil

Date: Monday, February 21, 2011, 3:32 PM

 

Well, Bruce, I still call it oil " swishing " so fewer people are confused

with the poor choice of teminology tha calls it " pulling " , and I note I can

swish with anything that's liquid, but yes I have done it with coconut oil and

also olive oil.

For one week, after which I flossed threads of meat protein and vegetable fiber

that were caught between the teeth. They are actually held fast and I have to

floss them out. Can hardly get the floss in there. If the debris was just packed

in the spaces and not actually held between teeth I'm sure it woulda worked.

Swishing seems to be great for clearing stuff that is loose but I still had to

floss.

My technique is that I swish well, then floss, then brushm, then swish real hard

and thoroughly with peroxide mouthwash. You can keep the oil :)

I think a lot of people who gravitated to swishing probably practiced poor

dental hygeine before they started. They are satisfied that at least they are

doing something. I predict that oil swishing will be seen as an adjuvant rather

than primary dental care tha you said it could be.

I still think calling it " oil pulling " is unfortunate. I know it's misleading

people into thinking it pulls toxins from the tissues in the nmouth, and that

point will have to be corrected. Thanks for writing in and correcting it a

couple of times.

all good,

Duncan

> > >

> > > Posted by: " Lyn K " on Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:08 pm (PST)

> > > > I want to encourage you that YES, oil pulling will be good for him. I

> > > > would try to get him to do it more than once each day.

> > >

> > > I'm curious... I recall reading somewhere that oil-pulling was most

> > > beneficial if only certain oils were used... and specifically coconut

> > > oil was not one of the recommended oils... I think sesame, and maybe

> > > sunflower oils were the ones most recommended...

> > >

> > > Comments?

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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