Re: Weight Gain with Coconut Oil

[Guest guest]

I gained weight....in the summer I can use it because of my activity level, but

my job is sedentary in winter and the weight adds up. Actually I have not been

able to use much coconut oil because my good cholesterol is off the charts

(good) and the bad is very, very low.

Joan

Does anyone gain weight with coconut oil?

[Guest guest]

But isn't it meant to increase metabolism so it wouldn't matter what your

activity level is? I think my metabolism is low because I have a low body

temperature.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Joan Dwyer <rosegardenstudio@...>wrote:

>

>

>

> I gained weight....in the summer I can use it because of my activity level,

> but my job is sedentary in winter and the weight adds up. Actually I have

> not been able to use much coconut oil because my good cholesterol is off the

> charts (good) and the bad is very, very low.

>

> Joan

>

>

> Does anyone gain weight with coconut oil?

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have a low body temp as well. It seems to matter to my body.

I eat well and cut out all bad fats. Olive oil and coconut oil are just too

much for me...also I am close to 60.

Joan

But isn't it meant to increase metabolism so it wouldn't matter what your

activity level is? I think my metabolism is low because I have a low body

temperature.

[Guest guest]

If one uses coconut oil daily, the body uses the CO as fuel. But if

one's diet has a lot of carbs, the body will not burn carbs for

energy, but store them as fat.

Alobar

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Cochrane <juliemc9@...> wrote:

> Does anyone gain weight with coconut oil?    I haven't had it regularly for

> a while because I couldn't get the unrefined.    I've just got some and

> started taking it Friday and have put on 2 kgs with no other changes in

> diet.    I was expecting to lose weight.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Alobar,

I already have a fairly low carb diet, apart from rice a couple of times a

week, and some raw milk. Do I need to cut out carbs altogether to

experience weight loss form CO?

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote:

>

>

> If one uses coconut oil daily, the body uses the CO as fuel. But if

> one's diet has a lot of carbs, the body will not burn carbs for

> energy, but store them as fat.

>

> Alobar

>

>

> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Cochrane

<juliemc9@...<juliemc9%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

> > Does anyone gain weight with coconut oil? I haven't had it regularly

> for

> > a while because I couldn't get the unrefined. I've just got some and

> > started taking it Friday and have put on 2 kgs with no other changes in

> > diet. I was expecting to lose weight.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I could not say. I am not an expert. I just know what works for me.

You say you gained 2 Kgs in less than a week? That is a huge weight gain.

Alobar

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Cochrane <juliemc9@...> wrote:

> Hi Alobar,

>

> I already have a fairly low carb diet, apart from rice a couple of times a

> week, and some raw milk.    Do I need to cut out carbs altogether to

> experience weight loss form CO?

>

>

>

> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> If one uses coconut oil daily, the body uses the CO as fuel. But if

>> one's diet has a lot of carbs, the body will not burn carbs for

>> energy, but store them as fat.

>>

>> Alobar

>>

>>

>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Cochrane

<juliemc9@...<juliemc9%40gmail.com>>

>> wrote:

>> > Does anyone gain weight with coconut oil?    I haven't had it regularly

>> for

>> > a while because I couldn't get the unrefined.    I've just got some and

>> > started taking it Friday and have put on 2 kgs with no other changes in

>> > diet.    I was expecting to lose weight.

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

I know. I have thyroid problems but I've fixed most of my symptoms except

the weight gain. I keep expecting it to drop off but it keeps going

on. Usually in 2 kg lots and then there will be a space of months where

it stays that way and then, with no warning, another 2 kgs.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote:

>

>

> I could not say. I am not an expert. I just know what works for me.

>

> You say you gained 2 Kgs in less than a week? That is a huge weight gain.

>

> Alobar

>

>

> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Cochrane

<juliemc9@...<juliemc9%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

> > Hi Alobar,

> >

> > I already have a fairly low carb diet, apart from rice a couple of times

> a

> > week, and some raw milk. Do I need to cut out carbs altogether to

> > experience weight loss form CO?

> >

> >

> >

> > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Alobar

<Alobar@...<Alobar%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

> >

> >>

> >>

> >> If one uses coconut oil daily, the body uses the CO as fuel. But if

> >> one's diet has a lot of carbs, the body will not burn carbs for

> >> energy, but store them as fat.

> >>

> >> Alobar

> >>

> >>

> >> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Cochrane

<juliemc9@...<juliemc9%40gmail.com>

> <juliemc9%40gmail.com>>

>

> >> wrote:

> >> > Does anyone gain weight with coconut oil? I haven't had it

> regularly

> >> for

> >> > a while because I couldn't get the unrefined. I've just got some

> and

> >> > started taking it Friday and have put on 2 kgs with no other changes

> in

> >> > diet. I was expecting to lose weight.

> >> >

> >> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I recently read that coconut oil is not recommended for blood type A people.

Actually they should avoid it. I LOVE coconut oil, and after reading all the

benefits, I gradually added it to my diet 3 years ago. I gained weight. Probably

15 LB over the first 2 years. All my life I was so skinny and I couldn't find

the source for the gain. My diet is rich of veggies, some fruits, whole grains

and low carbs. Once I read the correlation of blood type and coconut oil (in the

book 'Live right for your type')I thought this might be it. I'm a blood type A.

Is there some truth in the correlation of blood type and coconut oil?

Neta

> > I could not say. I am not an expert. I just know what works for me.

> >

> > You say you gained 2 Kgs in less than a week? That is a huge weight gain.

> >

> > Alobar

> >

> >

> > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Cochrane

<juliemc9@...<juliemc9%40gmail.com>>

> > wrote:

> > > Hi Alobar,

> > >

> > > I already have a fairly low carb diet, apart from rice a couple of times

> > a

> > > week, and some raw milk. Do I need to cut out carbs altogether to

> > > experience weight loss form CO?

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Blood type diet is a lot of dangerous silliness in my opinion.

Absolutely no research was ever done to verify the claims.

Alobar

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Neta <Netali7@...> wrote:

> I recently read that coconut oil is not recommended for blood type A people.

Actually they should avoid it. I LOVE coconut oil, and after reading all the

benefits, I gradually added it to my diet 3 years ago. I gained weight. Probably

15 LB over the first 2 years. All my life I was so skinny and I couldn't find

the source for the gain. My diet is rich of veggies, some fruits, whole grains

and low carbs. Once I read the correlation of blood type and coconut oil (in the

book 'Live right for your type')I thought this might be it. I'm a blood type A.

> Is there some truth in the correlation of blood type and coconut oil?

>

> Neta

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't agree that it is d & s. I have looked into this myself and there is plenty

of food that I can eat on my recommended diet for my blood type. I tried it for

a short time, but did not adhered to it for a few reasons. For 1, I think it

breaks down in certain areas. For me, where it breaks down is where it lists

foods as " beneficial " such as those that are clearly yeast forming, like cheese

and some grains. (More of us have a yeast problem than we realize and admit.)

Or if you know you have digestive problems when you eat something such as meat.

If you agree with these " allows " and go back to eating them, even though you had

been eating a clean diet and avoiding those things, you will feel awful again.

There were also many disallows I was supposed to stop eating that I never felt

bad eating. And for the Blood Type A person (Neta), I am a blood type B and I,

too, am not allowed coconut oil. I was upset when I found that out, because I

had been using CO for several months before coming across this diet. I had

experienced so much good from it, I could not believe my body was not to have

it. I have been consuming it daily and putting it on my skin since July 2010,

and do not have any negatives about it. I was thin all my life and I am still

thin.

So, to Alobar's credit, I just don't think that diet really holds any water. I

will stick with my healthy food diet: fruits, veggies, plant-based fats, nuts,

rice and other good grains, fish, turkey, chicken, lamb. I am more inclined to

believe in nutritional typing as a guide to eating. This is what makes better

sense to me.

________________________________

From: Alobar <Alobar@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Tue, January 11, 2011 8:11:35 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Weight Gain with Coconut Oil

Blood type diet is a lot of dangerous silliness in my opinion.

Absolutely no research was ever done to verify the claims.

Alobar

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Neta <Netali7@...> wrote:

> I recently read that coconut oil is not recommended for blood type A people.

>Actually they should avoid it. I LOVE coconut oil, and after reading all the

>benefits, I gradually added it to my diet 3 years ago. I gained weight.

Probably

>15 LB over the first 2 years. All my life I was so skinny and I couldn't find

>the source for the gain. My diet is rich of veggies, some fruits, whole grains

>and low carbs. Once I read the correlation of blood type and coconut oil (in

the

>book 'Live right for your type')I thought this might be it. I'm a blood type A.

> Is there some truth in the correlation of blood type and coconut oil?

>

> Neta

>

>

[Guest guest]

By the way, I am blood type A and I consume close to a gallon of

coconut oil every month because I am diabetic and use coconut oil for

energy while avoiding most carbs which others use for energy.

Alobar

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Alobar <alobar@...> wrote:

> Blood type diet is a lot of dangerous silliness in my opinion.

> Absolutely no research was ever done to verify the claims.

>

> Alobar

>

> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Neta <Netali7@...> wrote:

>> I recently read that coconut oil is not recommended for blood type A people.

Actually they should avoid it. I LOVE coconut oil, and after reading all the

benefits, I gradually added it to my diet 3 years ago. I gained weight. Probably

15 LB over the first 2 years. All my life I was so skinny and I couldn't find

the source for the gain. My diet is rich of veggies, some fruits, whole grains

and low carbs. Once I read the correlation of blood type and coconut oil (in the

book 'Live right for your type')I thought this might be it. I'm a blood type A.

>> Is there some truth in the correlation of blood type and coconut oil?

>>

>> Neta

>>

>>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Alobar.

What coconut oil are you using? Just curious. You must buy it in 5 gallon

buckets?

Cheers!

> >> I recently read that coconut oil is not recommended for blood type A

people. Actually they should avoid it. I LOVE coconut oil, and after reading all

the benefits, I gradually added it to my diet 3 years ago. I gained weight.

Probably 15 LB over the first 2 years. All my life I was so skinny and I

couldn't find the source for the gain. My diet is rich of veggies, some fruits,

whole grains and low carbs. Once I read the correlation of blood type and

coconut oil (in the book 'Live right for your type')I thought this might be it.

I'm a blood type A.

> >> Is there some truth in the correlation of blood type and coconut oil?

> >>

> >> Neta

> >>

> >>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have bought in 5 gallon buckets, but they are too heavy to comfortably

lift up 3 flights of stairs. And once I got them home, I had to ladle out

the oil, which meant I sometimes contaminated the oil before all 5 gallons

had been used.

Now I buy cases of 6 1 gallon tubs, which I can take up the stairs a few at

a time. Much easier. And when I open the gallon tub, I can pour it into

smaller jars, rather than ladle it, so it does not get contaminated.

I like all the oils from Wilderness Family Naturals. Due to my $$ being

real tight these days I get centrifuged oil.

http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/product/centrifuge-extracted-extra-virgi\

n-coconut-oil/COCE1Case6.php

I recently discovered their buyer's club which makes it even less

expensive.

http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/buying-club.php

Alobar

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:13 PM, <rulewater@...> wrote:

> Hello Alobar.

>

> What coconut oil are you using? Just curious. You must buy it in 5 gallon

> buckets?

>

>

> Cheers!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Alobar and

I know of a source of CO that is even cheaper and I have had 6 months of

experience with this and it is high quality. I want to pass on the site to you

both. It is tropicaltraditions.com They have many products and run sales all

the time. Get on their mailing list and you will get direct notice of their

sales.

________________________________

From: Alobar <Alobar@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 10:07:50 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Weight Gain with Coconut Oil

I have bought in 5 gallon buckets, but they are too heavy to comfortably

lift up 3 flights of stairs. And once I got them home, I had to ladle out

the oil, which meant I sometimes contaminated the oil before all 5 gallons

had been used.

Now I buy cases of 6 1 gallon tubs, which I can take up the stairs a few at

a time. Much easier. And when I open the gallon tub, I can pour it into

smaller jars, rather than ladle it, so it does not get contaminated.

I like all the oils from Wilderness Family Naturals. Due to my $$ being

real tight these days I get centrifuged oil.

http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/product/centrifuge-extracted-extra-virgi\

n-coconut-oil/COCE1Case6.php

I recently discovered their buyer's club which makes it even less

expensive.

http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/buying-club.php

Alobar

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:13 PM, <rulewater@...> wrote:

> Hello Alobar.

>

> What coconut oil are you using? Just curious. You must buy it in 5 gallon

> buckets?

>

>

> Cheers!

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had a bad experience with Tropical Traditions coconut oil years ago. The

oil was starting to go rancid. The company attempted to convince me I was

experiencing a herxheimer reaction and the catch in the throat was a good

thing. Tropical traditions never refunded the money I wasted on their

spoiled coconut oil. So I refuse to ever do business with them again.

Alobar

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Lyn K <godisbest4me@...> wrote:

> Hey Alobar and

>

> I know of a source of CO that is even cheaper and I have had 6 months of

> experience with this and it is high quality. I want to pass on the site to

> you

> both. It is tropicaltraditions.com They have many products and run sales

> all

> the time. Get on their mailing list and you will get direct notice of

> their

> sales.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Did the oil have a bad smell that supported your theory that it went rancid?

Since I am pretty new to this oil, I was wondering if or when I would know this

happened to mine. Also, why do you think it went rancid? The only thing I know

to do to keep it good is keep it out of direct sunlight.

________________________________

From: Alobar <Alobar@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 10:54:42 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Weight Gain with Coconut Oil

I had a bad experience with Tropical Traditions coconut oil years ago. The

oil was starting to go rancid. The company attempted to convince me I was

experiencing a herxheimer reaction and the catch in the throat was a good

thing. Tropical traditions never refunded the money I wasted on their

spoiled coconut oil. So I refuse to ever do business with them again.

Alobar

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Lyn K <godisbest4me@...> wrote:

> Hey Alobar and

>

> I know of a source of CO that is even cheaper and I have had 6 months of

> experience with this and it is high quality. I want to pass on the site to

> you

> both. It is tropicaltraditions.com They have many products and run sales

> all

> the time. Get on their mailing list and you will get direct notice of

> their

> sales.

>

>

[Guest guest]

No bad smell. A burning itchy feeling in my throat when I swallowed the

oil. Excess water in the oil causes the fatty acids to go rancid.

See more here:

http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/wHguTV_MQ1XyYi2REXd-zKXE8pSImSy0_JNMbMlHBGzn-PQ9dS8\

RZiZ3wxfOUzOX_eub1DNAqxqr_8QtZwogfw/Throat%20Catch.txt

Alobar

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Lyn K <godisbest4me@...> wrote:

> Did the oil have a bad smell that supported your theory that it went

> rancid?

> Since I am pretty new to this oil, I was wondering if or when I would know

> this

> happened to mine. Also, why do you think it went rancid? The only thing I

> know

> to do to keep it good is keep it out of direct sunlight.

>

[Guest guest]

Posted by: " Cochrane " juliemc9@... bifurbombur

Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:31 pm (PST)

> Hi Alobar,

>

> I already have a fairly low carb diet, apart from rice a couple of times a

> week,

I'm very interested in how rice can play a part... I absolutely love my

organic brown rice... but I also am trying to lose some weight.

How does brown rice fit into the 'good carb bad carb' picture?

[Guest guest]

Posted by: " Alobar " Alobar@... wm_alobar

Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:19 pm (PST)

> If one uses coconut oil daily, the body uses the CO as fuel. But if

> one's diet has a lot of carbs, the body will not burn carbs for

> energy, but store them as fat.

Hmmm... so, how do you define 'a lot of carbs' Alobar?

Is there a consensus among the experts as to how many carbs - good carbs

- should be the goal? I guess that could depend on whether someone is

interested in weight loss, or just maintenance, so how about a 2 part

answer?

I'm trying to stay low card, but they add up quickly with a little fresh

juice...

[Guest guest]

I don't think rice does fit into a low carb diet - but it's the one high

carb food that I was having. I've cut it out now. Am following a book

by Barry Groves now. Pretty much totally low carb except he recommends a

small serving of fruit after each meal, but am sticking with low carb

fruits. And just 2tlbsp coconut oil before breakfast - I've cut out the

evening coconut oil. I am determined to lose weight.

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@...>wrote:

>

>

> Posted by: " Cochrane " juliemc9@... bifurbombur

> Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:31 pm (PST)

> > Hi Alobar,

> >

> > I already have a fairly low carb diet, apart from rice a couple of times

> a

> > week,

>

> I'm very interested in how rice can play a part... I absolutely love my

> organic brown rice... but I also am trying to lose some weight.

>

> How does brown rice fit into the 'good carb bad carb' picture?

>

>

[Guest guest]

A lot of people who couldn't seem to lose weight have a positive response to

rebounding, pretty quick too. Toxin removal and less edema?

Anyway, sweaty exercise should be near the top of the list.

I got my weight up to 170 lbs 10 days ago. Didn't like it, clothes were a bit

tight. Today I'm back down to 160 lb. I'm a fast metaboliser because of my

anti-aging program I guess, but I think a lot of that fat had to be water

weight.

all good,

Duncan

>

> I am determined to lose weight.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I guess I am confused. What are good carbs?

Oh, are those the ones that take longer to turn into sugar?

Cheers,

Jim

>'m very interested in how rice can play a part... I absolutely love my

organic brown rice... but I also am trying to lose some weight.

How does brown rice fit into the 'good carb bad carb' picture?<

[Guest guest]

That is more media hype than reality, dont believe the whole grains myth that

they are good for you. Vegetables are good carbs, fruit in small amounts and cut

out the rest. Just focus on the 72 number or less.If your trying to lose weight

down to 20 carbs a day. You need to pick up a book about low carb so you'll

understand and follow it better.

Brown rice is just as bad as white sugar or potatoes so measure it and figure

out how many grams of carbs your getting.

>

> I guess I am confused. What are good carbs?

>

> Oh, are those the ones that take longer to turn into sugar?

>

> Cheers,

> Jim

>

>

> >'m very interested in how rice can play a part... I absolutely love my

> organic brown rice... but I also am trying to lose some weight.

>

> How does brown rice fit into the 'good carb bad carb' picture?<

>

[Guest guest]

Jim funny He's right, there are no " good carbs " unless they are so locked up

in the food that they are extremely difficult to pry out and assimilate.

Even our new superfood, stabilised rice bran, could be considered high-carb,

after 80% or more of the carb value has been taken off.

Whole rice is bad carb. Bad carbs force immune response low and fat storage

high. Nix all grains, even the exotic ones, all starches, many of the sugars,

most fruit and even sweet potatoes and yams, and you ight be very close to a

balanced diet that will maintain your ideal body mass index naturally. If you

eat meat and/or whey and get some exercise.

all good,

Duncan

>

> I guess I am confused. What are good carbs?

>

> Oh, are those the ones that take longer to turn into sugar?

>

> Cheers,

> Jim

>

>

> >'m very interested in how rice can play a part... I absolutely love my

> organic brown rice... but I also am trying to lose some weight.

>

> How does brown rice fit into the 'good carb bad carb' picture?<

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with Byron. The grain myth arose by telling people to eat whole rice or

whole oats instead of white bread and sugar because it was killing them. White

death is all whole grain is better than, it's not a legendary food or anything

close, but people got the wrong idea.

all good,

Duncan

>

> That is more media hype than reality, dont believe the whole grains myth that

they are good for you. Vegetables are good carbs, fruit in small amounts and cut

out the rest. Just focus on the 72 number or less.