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I have had terrible gums for decades from bad diet. May of the

problems were assisted by squishing with weak solution of Lugol's

Iodine. Then I read that topic application of vitamin A and E might

help my gums. So I have been doing a brief (3 minute oil pulling

every day with crushed oil based supplements (vitamin A, Vitamin E,

Evening Primrose oil). That helps too. Not too long ago, Dee

mentioned topical application of Co-enzyme Q10 might also help. So I

added my daily dose of Q10 in with my oil pulling of vitamins A & E.

My gums are by no means healed, but they are doing better and better

as time goes on.

Alobar

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

> Hi Don; the antibacterial property that oils and essential oils can be

credited for is enveloped bacteria cell-wall breakdown. Oils don't break down

non-enveloped bacteria, viruses and fungal spores though, which leaves about 3/4

of the field.

>

> I agree that germkillers should generally be used for swishing, as many of

them break down biofilm, and each may have different properties.

>

> The peroxide and silver mix for example break down both enveloped and

non-enveloped bacteria, viruses, and some fungal spores. They are well known

biofilm breakers and they are also used to treat several diseases. Vinegar is

also used as an effective biofilm cleaner and taken as a tonic. Being a fatty

acid, it functions similarly to oil.

>

> all good,

>

> Duncan

>

>

>

>

>>

>> I am wondering if oil pulling has other than physical properties...

>> Let me explain: if a plant has aphids, often a spray of water, cooking oil

and soap

>> can be helpful...it suffocates the aphids...

>> I am wondering if most of the oral bacteria in humans is aerobic and that the

oil does something similar as the aforementioned spray does to the aphids...and

that 15 ~ 20 mins of that oil coating on the teeth is enough to kill bacteria -

not so much chemically, but physically.

>> I have heard from others and also personally experienced that clean mouth

feeling after oil pulling...

>> so perhaps we need to keep our minds open to other possible mechanisms of

action...

>> I have heard / read that the alcohol in mouthwash is not so friendly to  our

teeth...

>> d

>>

>>

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I've no doubt the Q10 will help, Alobar. I used to have sore and bleeding

gums, and it really hurt to brush or floss my teeth. After I took Q10 for a

couple of months, I could see improvement, and they don't hurt or bleed at

all anymore.

Judy

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote:

>

>

> I have had terrible gums for decades from bad diet. May of the

> problems were assisted by squishing with weak solution of Lugol's

> Iodine. Then I read that topic application of vitamin A and E might

> help my gums. So I have been doing a brief (3 minute oil pulling

> every day with crushed oil based supplements (vitamin A, Vitamin E,

> Evening Primrose oil). That helps too. Not too long ago, Dee

> mentioned topical application of Co-enzyme Q10 might also help. So I

> added my daily dose of Q10 in with my oil pulling of vitamins A & E.

>

> My gums are by no means healed, but they are doing better and better

> as time goes on.

>

> Alobar

>

> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

> > Hi Don; the antibacterial property that oils and essential oils can be

> credited for is enveloped bacteria cell-wall breakdown. Oils don't break

> down non-enveloped bacteria, viruses and fungal spores though, which leaves

> about 3/4 of the field.

> >

> > I agree that germkillers should generally be used for swishing, as many

> of them break down biofilm, and each may have different properties.

> >

> > The peroxide and silver mix for example break down both enveloped and

> non-enveloped bacteria, viruses, and some fungal spores. They are well known

> biofilm breakers and they are also used to treat several diseases. Vinegar

> is also used as an effective biofilm cleaner and taken as a tonic. Being a

> fatty acid, it functions similarly to oil.

> >

> > all good,

> >

> > Duncan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >>

> >> I am wondering if oil pulling has other than physical properties...

> >> Let me explain: if a plant has aphids, often a spray of water, cooking

> oil and soap

> >> can be helpful...it suffocates the aphids...

> >> I am wondering if most of the oral bacteria in humans is aerobic and

> that the oil does something similar as the aforementioned spray does to the

> aphids...and that 15 ~ 20 mins of that oil coating on the teeth is enough to

> kill bacteria - not so much chemically, but physically.

> >> I have heard from others and also personally experienced that clean

> mouth feeling after oil pulling...

> >> so perhaps we need to keep our minds open to other possible mechanisms

> of action...

> >> I have heard / read that the alcohol in mouthwash is not so friendly

> to our teeth...

> >> d

> >>

> >>

>

>

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Lew,

and Aguinaga vacationed last July

at Fort Walton Beach in Florida with another couple.

After swimming in the Gulf, all of them became sick.

Four weeks later, Merrick Vallian - 's best

friend - died. 's own health continues to

deteriorate.

Interview by Jerry Cope with & in

which talks about how his doctor informed

him he had " a new illness we've never seen before. "

He was told there was " a rare bacteria " found in

his body, " similar to the microbes that eat oil " .

Then he discusses the death of his best friend,

Merrick Vallian, who " on August 23 8:10 AM just

fell over and he was BLUE...his heart just stopped. "

Referred to by locals as " The Blue Plague " or " The

Blue Flu, " it is a form of cyanosis caused by the

oxygen-depleted air and water of the Gulf region,

caused by the toxic combination of aerosolized Corexit,

and genetically-modified " designer bacteria " meant

to eat millions of gallons of crude that spewed from

the Macondo well last year.

Video:

http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/page/1257.html

- andra

P.S. Video courtesy of WVP Radio

P.P.S. Please share Forbidden Knowledge TV e-mails

and videos with your friends and colleagues.

With regards

Lew

On 3/18/11, J Trettel <gnp222@...> wrote:

> I've no doubt the Q10 will help, Alobar. I used to have sore and bleeding

> gums, and it really hurt to brush or floss my teeth. After I took Q10 for a

> couple of months, I could see improvement, and they don't hurt or bleed at

> all anymore.

>

> Judy

>

> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> I have had terrible gums for decades from bad diet. May of the

>> problems were assisted by squishing with weak solution of Lugol's

>> Iodine. Then I read that topic application of vitamin A and E might

>> help my gums. So I have been doing a brief (3 minute oil pulling

>> every day with crushed oil based supplements (vitamin A, Vitamin E,

>> Evening Primrose oil). That helps too. Not too long ago, Dee

>> mentioned topical application of Co-enzyme Q10 might also help. So I

>> added my daily dose of Q10 in with my oil pulling of vitamins A & E.

>>

>> My gums are by no means healed, but they are doing better and better

>> as time goes on.

>>

>> Alobar

>>

>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

>> > Hi Don; the antibacterial property that oils and essential oils can be

>> credited for is enveloped bacteria cell-wall breakdown. Oils don't break

>> down non-enveloped bacteria, viruses and fungal spores though, which

>> leaves

>> about 3/4 of the field.

>> >

>> > I agree that germkillers should generally be used for swishing, as many

>> of them break down biofilm, and each may have different properties.

>> >

>> > The peroxide and silver mix for example break down both enveloped and

>> non-enveloped bacteria, viruses, and some fungal spores. They are well

>> known

>> biofilm breakers and they are also used to treat several diseases. Vinegar

>> is also used as an effective biofilm cleaner and taken as a tonic. Being a

>> fatty acid, it functions similarly to oil.

>> >

>> > all good,

>> >

>> > Duncan

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >>

>> >> I am wondering if oil pulling has other than physical properties...

>> >> Let me explain: if a plant has aphids, often a spray of water, cooking

>> oil and soap

>> >> can be helpful...it suffocates the aphids...

>> >> I am wondering if most of the oral bacteria in humans is aerobic and

>> that the oil does something similar as the aforementioned spray does to

>> the

>> aphids...and that 15 ~ 20 mins of that oil coating on the teeth is enough

>> to

>> kill bacteria - not so much chemically, but physically.

>> >> I have heard from others and also personally experienced that clean

>> mouth feeling after oil pulling...

>> >> so perhaps we need to keep our minds open to other possible mechanisms

>> of action...

>> >> I have heard / read that the alcohol in mouthwash is not so friendly

>> toĀ our teeth...

>> >> d

>> >>

>> >>

>>

>>

>

>

>

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I always add 3 drops of calendula officialis Mother

Tincture to the tablespoonful of sesame oil for Oil-Pulling. Iodine

is anti-microbial, so is micro particle colloidal silver. The edible

calendula parts ( poor man's saffron ) is rich in iodine.

Calendula Infusions

Calendula can be used topically in tea form to treat a range

of illnesses and minor skin ailments. You can make a tea from the

petals to swab over eyes affected with conjunctivitis: The

anti-inflammatory properties soothe the area, and the antibacterial

properties can help fight the infection. Gargling calendula-petal teas

can soothe sore throats and combat infection, and the same solution

can be used as a mouthwash for infected gums and mouth problems.

http://www.ehow.com/about_5040765_calendula-herb-benefits.html

With regards

Lew

On 3/18/11, Lew Fong How <drfhlew@...> wrote:

> Lew,

>

> and Aguinaga vacationed last July

> at Fort Walton Beach in Florida with another couple.

> After swimming in the Gulf, all of them became sick.

> Four weeks later, Merrick Vallian - 's best

> friend - died. 's own health continues to

> deteriorate.

>

> Interview by Jerry Cope with & in

> which talks about how his doctor informed

> him he had " a new illness we've never seen before. "

> He was told there was " a rare bacteria " found in

> his body, " similar to the microbes that eat oil " .

> Then he discusses the death of his best friend,

> Merrick Vallian, who " on August 23 8:10 AM just

> fell over and he was BLUE...his heart just stopped. "

>

> Referred to by locals as " The Blue Plague " or " The

> Blue Flu, " it is a form of cyanosis caused by the

> oxygen-depleted air and water of the Gulf region,

> caused by the toxic combination of aerosolized Corexit,

> and genetically-modified " designer bacteria " meant

> to eat millions of gallons of crude that spewed from

> the Macondo well last year.

>

>

> Video:

>

> http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/page/1257.html

>

> - andra

>

>

> P.S. Video courtesy of WVP Radio

>

> P.P.S. Please share Forbidden Knowledge TV e-mails

> and videos with your friends and colleagues.

>

>

>

> With regards

>

> Lew

>

> On 3/18/11, J Trettel <gnp222@...> wrote:

>> I've no doubt the Q10 will help, Alobar. I used to have sore and

>> bleeding

>> gums, and it really hurt to brush or floss my teeth. After I took Q10 for

>> a

>> couple of months, I could see improvement, and they don't hurt or bleed

>> at

>> all anymore.

>>

>> Judy

>>

>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>>

>>> I have had terrible gums for decades from bad diet. May of the

>>> problems were assisted by squishing with weak solution of Lugol's

>>> Iodine. Then I read that topic application of vitamin A and E might

>>> help my gums. So I have been doing a brief (3 minute oil pulling

>>> every day with crushed oil based supplements (vitamin A, Vitamin E,

>>> Evening Primrose oil). That helps too. Not too long ago, Dee

>>> mentioned topical application of Co-enzyme Q10 might also help. So I

>>> added my daily dose of Q10 in with my oil pulling of vitamins A & E.

>>>

>>> My gums are by no means healed, but they are doing better and better

>>> as time goes on.

>>>

>>> Alobar

>>>

>>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

>>> wrote:

>>> > Hi Don; the antibacterial property that oils and essential oils can be

>>> credited for is enveloped bacteria cell-wall breakdown. Oils don't break

>>> down non-enveloped bacteria, viruses and fungal spores though, which

>>> leaves

>>> about 3/4 of the field.

>>> >

>>> > I agree that germkillers should generally be used for swishing, as

>>> > many

>>> of them break down biofilm, and each may have different properties.

>>> >

>>> > The peroxide and silver mix for example break down both enveloped and

>>> non-enveloped bacteria, viruses, and some fungal spores. They are well

>>> known

>>> biofilm breakers and they are also used to treat several diseases.

>>> Vinegar

>>> is also used as an effective biofilm cleaner and taken as a tonic. Being

>>> a

>>> fatty acid, it functions similarly to oil.

>>> >

>>> > all good,

>>> >

>>> > Duncan

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >>

>>> >> I am wondering if oil pulling has other than physical properties...

>>> >> Let me explain: if a plant has aphids, often a spray of water,

>>> >> cooking

>>> oil and soap

>>> >> can be helpful...it suffocates the aphids...

>>> >> I am wondering if most of the oral bacteria in humans is aerobic and

>>> that the oil does something similar as the aforementioned spray does to

>>> the

>>> aphids...and that 15 ~ 20 mins of that oil coating on the teeth is

>>> enough

>>> to

>>> kill bacteria - not so much chemically, but physically.

>>> >> I have heard from others and also personally experienced that clean

>>> mouth feeling after oil pulling...

>>> >> so perhaps we need to keep our minds open to other possible

>>> >> mechanisms

>>> of action...

>>> >> I have heard / read that the alcohol in mouthwash is not so friendly

>>> toĀ our teeth...

>>> >> d

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>>

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A flowering plant to detect radioactivity :

The Spiderwort

A mounded, bushy plant with long, lance-shaped leaves and bright

purplish-blue bossoms, the spiderwort looks a little like fireworks

bursting

In scientific circles, it is widely called tradescantia, its

Latin name.We know the plant as spiderwort-found along rural roadsides

and shaded streams.It blooms at dawn, unfurling tiny lavender flowers

with yellow-tipped stamens. Once struck by sunlight, its blooms

shrivel and wait for darkness.Beyond its identity as a garden-worthy

wildflower, the spiderwort also provides a service which is

desperately needed in these hours of international distress.

If checking for radiation leaks, the fragile blooms and the stamens on

the blooms, by the way, are correctly - bluish-purple, it means all is

well.

Spiderwort to monitor radiation

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With regards

Lew

On 3/18/11, Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote:

> I have had terrible gums for decades from bad diet. May of the

> problems were assisted by squishing with weak solution of Lugol's

> Iodine. Then I read that topic application of vitamin A and E might

> help my gums. So I have been doing a brief (3 minute oil pulling

> every day with crushed oil based supplements (vitamin A, Vitamin E,

> Evening Primrose oil). That helps too. Not too long ago, Dee

> mentioned topical application of Co-enzyme Q10 might also help. So I

> added my daily dose of Q10 in with my oil pulling of vitamins A & E.

>

> My gums are by no means healed, but they are doing better and better

> as time goes on.

>

> Alobar

>

> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

>> Hi Don; the antibacterial property that oils and essential oils can be

>> credited for is enveloped bacteria cell-wall breakdown. Oils don't break

>> down non-enveloped bacteria, viruses and fungal spores though, which

>> leaves about 3/4 of the field.

>>

>> I agree that germkillers should generally be used for swishing, as many of

>> them break down biofilm, and each may have different properties.

>>

>> The peroxide and silver mix for example break down both enveloped and

>> non-enveloped bacteria, viruses, and some fungal spores. They are well

>> known biofilm breakers and they are also used to treat several diseases.

>> Vinegar is also used as an effective biofilm cleaner and taken as a tonic.

>> Being a fatty acid, it functions similarly to oil.

>>

>> all good,

>>

>> Duncan

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>>

>>> I am wondering if oil pulling has other than physical properties...

>>> Let me explain: if a plant has aphids, often a spray of water, cooking

>>> oil and soap

>>> can be helpful...it suffocates the aphids...

>>> I am wondering if most of the oral bacteria in humans is aerobic and that

>>> the oil does something similar as the aforementioned spray does to the

>>> aphids...and that 15 ~ 20 mins of that oil coating on the teeth is enough

>>> to kill bacteria - not so much chemically, but physically.

>>> I have heard from others and also personally experienced that clean mouth

>>> feeling after oil pulling...

>>> so perhaps we need to keep our minds open to other possible mechanisms of

>>> action...

>>> I have heard / read that the alcohol in mouthwash is not so friendly toÂ

>>> our teeth...

>>> d

>>>

>>>

>

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I have mercury fillings, many of which have fallen out. I have root

canals & tooth caps with Mercury.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:02 AM, justdoit7172 <justdoit7172@...> wrote:

>

> Have you ever tried the Young Living Ultra toothpaste? It's suppose to have

great healing benefits and restoration on the gumline, with whitening effects.

>

> Do you have mercury fillings?

>

>

>

>> >>

>> >> I am wondering if oil pulling has other than physical properties...

>> >> Let me explain: if a plant has aphids, often a spray of water, cooking oil

and soap

>> >> can be helpful...it suffocates the aphids...

>> >> I am wondering if most of the oral bacteria in humans is aerobic and that

the oil does something similar as the aforementioned spray does to the

aphids...and that 15 ~ 20 mins of that oil coating on the teeth is enough to

kill bacteria - not so much chemically, but physically.

>> >> I have heard from others and also personally experienced that clean mouth

feeling after oil pulling...

>> >> so perhaps we need to keep our minds open to other possible mechanisms of

action...

>> >> I have heard / read that the alcohol in mouthwash is not so friendly to 

our teeth...

>> >> d

>> >>

>> >>

>>

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I did oil pulling for 20-30 minutes every da for 3 month, then

stopped. Oil pulling is frustratingly boring. I had to focus all my

attention on il pulling else I would swallow the oil, or ii would

drool out of my mouth.

Alobar

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 7:54 AM, <r_long@...> wrote:

> Alobar,

>  Despite the mercury fillings you have been doing a lot of oil pulling right ?

How has that been for you ? Did you notice any health improvements ? How long

have you been oil pulling and how many minutes a day average ?

>

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Dee,

You might want to check in to this community on LiveJournal.

http://community.livejournal.com/bpoil

Lots and lots of of posts about the dangers from the Gulf. Simply

breathing the air near the gulf has made some people seriously sick.

These days most of the info was posted by me. Earlier on others were

posting also.

Alobar

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Dolores <dgk@...> wrote:

> Thank you Lew for the heads-up. That's pretty scary. I live 2 blocks from the

Gulf and luckily have not gone swimming since the oil spill. We thought they had

stopped with the dispersants, but according to your link they have not.

>

> Best,

> Dee

>

>

>>

>> Lew,

>>

>> and Aguinaga vacationed last July

>> at Fort Walton Beach in Florida with another couple.

>> After swimming in the Gulf, all of them became sick.

>> Four weeks later, Merrick Vallian - 's best

>> friend - died. 's own health continues to

>> deteriorate.

>>

>> Interview by Jerry Cope with & in

>> which talks about how his doctor informed

>> him he had " a new illness we've never seen before. "

>> He was told there was " a rare bacteria " found in

>> his body, " similar to the microbes that eat oil " .

>> Then he discusses the death of his best friend,

>> Merrick Vallian, who " on August 23 8:10 AM just

>> fell over and he was BLUE...his heart just stopped. "

>>

>> Referred to by locals as " The Blue Plague " or " The

>> Blue Flu, " it is a form of cyanosis caused by the

>> oxygen-depleted air and water of the Gulf region,

>> caused by the toxic combination of aerosolized Corexit,

>> and genetically-modified " designer bacteria " meant

>> to eat millions of gallons of crude that spewed from

>> the Macondo well last year.

>>

>>

>> Video:

>>

>> http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/page/1257.html

>>

>> - andra

>>

>>

>> P.S. Video courtesy of WVP Radio

>>

>> P.P.S. Please share Forbidden Knowledge TV e-mails

>> and videos with your friends and colleagues.

>>

>>

>>

>> With regards

>>

>>     Lew

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I think one of the serious issues is that we do not know how long this 'stuff'

will be around

causing harm.   Was there ever a general warning put out to the public -

saying to avoid contact w/ the water and that it is better to stay indoors?

Katrina was enough to deal with - with all the mis-steps by the govt...

now this...very sad...

makes you wonder about those conspiracy theories...

Our govt supports safety on the job...but what about safety to the planet in

general...

wondering if much thought was given to the after effects to people here...

d

> Thank you Lew for the heads-up. That's pretty scary. I live 2 blocks from the

Gulf and luckily have not gone swimming since the oil spill. We thought they had

stopped with the dispersants, but according to your link they have not.

>

> Best,

> Dee

>

>

>>

>> Lew,

>>

>> and Aguinaga vacationed last July

>> at Fort Walton Beach in Florida with another couple.

>> After swimming in the Gulf, all of them became sick.

>> Four weeks later, Merrick Vallian - 's best

>> friend - died. 's own health continues to

>> deteriorate.

>>

>> Interview by Jerry Cope with & in

>> which talks about how his doctor informed

>> him he had " a new illness we've never seen before. "

>> He was told there was " a rare bacteria " found in

>> his body, " similar to the microbes that eat oil " .

>> Then he discusses the death of his best friend,

>> Merrick Vallian, who " on August 23 8:10 AM just

>> fell over and he was BLUE...his heart just stopped. "

>>

>> Referred to by locals as " The Blue Plague " or " The

>> Blue Flu, " it is a form of cyanosis caused by the

>> oxygen-depleted air and water of the Gulf region,

>> caused by the toxic combination of aerosolized Corexit,

>> and genetically-modified " designer bacteria " meant

>> to eat millions of gallons of crude that spewed from

>> the Macondo well last year.

>>

>>

>> Video:

>>

>> http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/page/1257.html

>>

>> - andra

>>

>>

>> P.S. Video courtesy of WVP Radio

>>

>> P.P.S. Please share Forbidden Knowledge TV e-mails

>> and videos with your friends and colleagues.

>>

>>

>>

>> With regards

>>

>>     Lew

>>

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What is your take on that vitamin C in high dose is harmful because it converts

into oxalic acid not just in kidneys as oxalic acid stones but in brain too ?

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Subject: Re: wondering if...oil pulling: possible

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Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 4:10 AM

 

Hi Don; the antibacterial property that oils and essential oils can be

credited for is enveloped bacteria cell-wall breakdown. Oils don't break down

non-enveloped bacteria, viruses and fungal spores though, which leaves about 3/4

of the field.

I agree that germkillers should generally be used for swishing, as many of them

break down biofilm, and each may have different properties.

The peroxide and silver mix for example break down both enveloped and

non-enveloped bacteria, viruses, and some fungal spores. They are well known

biofilm breakers and they are also used to treat several diseases. Vinegar is

also used as an effective biofilm cleaner and taken as a tonic. Being a fatty

acid, it functions similarly to oil.

all good,

Duncan

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