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Looks fake.

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:40 AM, Vanadeux <vanadeux@...> wrote:

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This video does not prove molecular spin, no matter how many abracadabras and

alakazams the fella says. The " taste test " always works regardless of the

material tasted; it's a parlor trick that anyone can perform to get a different

response from the subject for two identical substances. As a parlor trick it's

actually true that " this technique works..share it to everyone " .

I have better things to do.

all good,

Duncan

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Dear Duncan

You know I will continue this just a little, because I think you do a disservice

by your off the cuff comments without doing serious research (of course not

compulsory).

Do you know Dr patrick flanagan the scientist? Do you know about his research

on water and hydrogen?

well just two days ago, Dr Flanagan replied to this video and remarked that it

was indeed a powerful and effective technique.. its actually called a MUDRA,

well known in Indian yoga, having worked with this technique over a few days we

find it also works on our body..

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Yeah, I know about Flanagan since selling his products through the MLM Royal

Body Care 12 years ago. My dad has used it and liked it. Flanagan's Mega H has

been critiqued unfavourably by many scientists and doctors, more recently it was

criticized rather thoroughly on the electroherbalism list and it looks like

it'll stick pretty good.

I saw that Flanagan likes the theory. You can accept Flanagan's opinion if you

like, but I'm not having it anymore.

all good,

Duncan

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> You know I will continue this just a little, because I think you do a

disservice by your off the cuff comments without doing serious research (of

course not compulsory).

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on water and hydrogen?

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> well just two days ago, Dr Flanagan replied to this video and remarked that it

was indeed a powerful and effective technique.. its actually called a MUDRA,

well known in Indian yoga, having worked with this technique over a few days we

find it also works on our body..

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In years to come quantum science will explain how our own hands and fingers can

effect our health in a beneficial way, mystical or magical it certainly is not.

Scientifically validated technque of Dr Lloyd is now spreading

worldwide...so there we are.

ajd

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I bought his materials. In my opinion as a Qigong master and a natural healer,

he is totally nonsense. You don't just add the term " Quantum " to anything to

make it science. True science needs to be validated and verified.

Joe

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> In years to come quantum science will explain how our own hands and fingers

can effect our health in a beneficial way, mystical or magical it certainly is

not.

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> Scientifically validated technque of Dr Lloyd is now spreading

worldwide...so there we are.

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> ajd

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We have been optimistic about quantum theory delivering us useful science for a

long time. It would be most welcome.

In the case of the parlor trick replicated on the video though, the second

substance tasted always tastes better. The video then is not proof and is a

disservice to people who are genuinely interested. What we need is a new

approach to proving quantum science.

I'm aware that some people can cure pain with a fingertip. That has not been

proven to be related to quantum energies but it has been proven to contain

magnetism. I don't mean to exclude theories but until there is data to support

them, a theoretical association is all we have. In this respect the emergence of

the postulates, and the discussions and critiques of each, belong more to the

fringe science buffs and their groups and less in a health discussion.

I have no problem with jumping on the bus with you once I know it is in service

and going to my area (health). I will take the trouble to look up Dr Lloyd

though, and I hope he offers more proof of health effect than the video did.

all good,

Duncan

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> In years to come quantum science will explain how our own hands and fingers

can effect our health in a beneficial way, mystical or magical it certainly is

not.

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> Scientifically validated technque of Dr Lloyd is now spreading

worldwide...so there we are.

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> ajd

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According to this practitioner, " Dr. Loyd believes that the Healing Codes work

at a spiritual level. " ...That and " Finding and staying in a place of love,

acceptance and Spirit. (Benor, 2005, p. 1) " indicates prayer and meditation.

Meditation and mantra have been used for millennia in a religious context, but

are the practices really that close to being science?

There's quite a lot of insider information on the page:

><http://www.wholistichealingresearch.com/user_files/documents/ijhc/articles/Min\

ewiser-8-1.pdf>

The proposition is that the Healing Codes work on everybody, but a lot of people

are reporting no effect. Is it their gesturing, their meditation, or their new

religion that is faulty?

Reminds me of an elderly lady who travels to specific locations in the USA or

Canada every spring and does some kind of sunrise dance so she can see the alien

beings. Sorry, I can't remember what the dance is called.

all good,

Duncan

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Duncan,

No indication of efficacy in manifestation  Is she successful? Or is she

" alienating " herself?

-richard-

Reminds me of an elderly lady who travels to specific locations in the USA or

Canada every spring and does some kind of sunrise dance so she can see the alien

beings. Sorry, I can't remember what the dance is called.

all good,

Duncan

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She says she was successful and had to go back. A practical-minded lady, not

airy-fairy like I would have imagined, she was also into sphageric alchemy, some

kind of touchless therapy, and Orgone, for which she had an orgone accumulator.

She'd been into all this since the 1960s since she studied some of it in

California. She eventually moved to I think Sayward BC, where there is a major

geomagnetic intersection under Mt. H'kusam. Her reason for moving was the

probability that there was enough energy there to do that dance and get

alien/unknown orgainic blob " being " sightings there as well. She says the same

thing about it as the subject line of this thread.

all good,

Duncan

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> Duncan,

> No indication of efficacy in manifestation  Is she successful? Or is she

" alienating " herself?

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Dear Joe

It is scientifically validated, and if you had looked in depth you would have

found this so.

Absolutely the technique works. do you think 390 reviews for his book is all

placebo?

I will say yet again do not knock things that you have not evaluated properly

by using the technique for a length of time. Dr actually says for some it

can take far longer to work.

I am used to energy work and I can say this technque works.

and I have nothing to lose or gain by spreading the word, its cheap to buy a

book and it gives back the power to the self to help the self, not giving away

power to others!

cheers

ajd

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Hi Joe:

The problem is that " true science " can be redefined as " that which the

government defines as (politically) correct " . If true science were

reliable and predictable, groups like this would be unnecessary. The

fact remains that they are... Furthermore, they are becoming more

important with each passing day as what are now known as scientists

grovel for their government grants in order to survive. It all started

when the government began deciding what you should learn (and avoid

learning) and spread to what scientists should validate and what they

should throw out. At this point, as the drug companies control the

government, medical science has become a sham.... just as have those

who tell where our climate is headed and what form of energy is best for

the planet and what is green and not.

The bottom line is that those who regulate the purse strings regulate

the knowledge.

Regards,

Jim

" I bought his materials. In my opinion as a Qigong master and a natural

healer, he is totally nonsense. You don't just add the term " Quantum " to

anything to make it science. True science needs to be validated and

verified.

Joe "

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> never mind alkalised water, get your molecules spinning south spin and you do

feel the difference)

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> in the first video the demo happens about half way through, just in case you

think what are they up to!!

>

> ajd

Thanks much for sharing this. I looked at his 3 videos last night, the Southspin

technique is simple and free and he's lost 30 pounds and feels energetic in his

50's. He also says TV personalities Dr. Phil and Larry King use it. I'm not sure

about the science of it, but I did it on my water and coffee and felt things

happening in my body...and it felt good! His 3 videos below.

A new cure for Cancer and Anti-aging

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New knowledge is the most valuable commodity on earth. The more truth we have to

work with, the richer we become. - Kurt Vonnegut

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