Re: Swansons herbs = fillers....was: Protandim

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Jen,

Thanks for your post. Because some members who have never used Swanson's have

chosen to malign products that many of us are quite happy with, I did a check of

their label and notice there is a 7 leaf guarantee of purity and potency

trademark on it. Not sure if that is what your dh is referring to but on their

website they have the following statement:

" Since 2001 Swanson Health Products has voluntarily participated in independent

third-party Good Manufacturing Practices (GMP) audits, long before the FDA

released their final regulations for the dietary supplement industry.

Ingredients are tested at various stages throughout the production process to

verify purity and potency, and finished products are tested for potency and

stability by independent third-party laboratories to ensure that each supplement

contains exactly what is stated on the label. "

While it's true that many of their supplements are quite low in price, others

are not. I suspect that is due more to the availability and ease of production

of certain ingredients rather than in the purity.

All the Best,

Dee

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relatively large supplement company. He did everything from the lowest job on

the totem pole to some management. Now he works for a small business that

bottles supplements. There is a difference in the quality of supplements. A

lot has to do with testing to make sure that adequate amounts of each supplement

are actually in the product. When a vitamin or herb is encapsulated, there

often does have to be something to help with flow. It doesn’t necessarily

mean that the product isn’t a good one just because of a flow ingredient. On

the other hand, an herb or vitamin isn’t going to be much good if it’s

mainly filler. There is certification (can’t remember the name of it right

now) that if a company has this †" it means they really are turning out a good

quality product. The company dh works for now (and the one before) have this

and it’s not easy to get. Anyway, often it is true that you get what you pay

for. Certain ingredients are really expensive and if a product claims to have

them but are selling for really cheap, you have to wonder how much of that

ingredient is actually in it. Jen

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[Guest guest]

Dee,

GMP is what I was talking about. Thanks for reminding me. The audits are

pretty extensive and they are audited on a continual basis to ensure that they

keep their standards high. There is a lot of paperwork involved to ensure that

each process is done right. I would feel good buying a product that was GMP

certified. At this stage of the game, good companies won’t even work with

manufacturers that aren’t GMP certified. And yes, there are ingredients that

aren’t very expensive. Jen

[Guest guest]

I think its unfair to single out only Swanson's products. Many other brands by

Major companies have lots of fillers in them too. One great thing about Swanson

is they have a Money Back Guarantee on all products. As far as Swanson own brand

products, I'm sure they are out-sourced to Major manufacturers, just like

Vitaminshoppe does. Each company must oversee and ensure the quality of their

products, which I feel confident Swanson's does.

Swanson's 7-Leaf Guarantee

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWH205/ItemDetail

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> > Sorry for any confusion: the label says Green Foods formulas at the top...

> > then below it says broken cell wall chlorella - our best greens fromula

> > it is tablets according to the

> > label before me now...360 count and 500 mg...

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[Guest guest]

I am interested in supplements that contain little/no fillers but every one I

check usually contain at least two of the fillers you listed.

If anyone knows of any please list.

thanks

elaine

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> From: Lyn K <godisbest4me@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Protandim

> Coconut Oil

> Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 9:14 AM

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> I checked this out and if you buy strictly Swanson's brands, there are

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> one/get one sales on these herbs going on right now, so that helps quite a bit

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> I don't like dealing with MLM's either, even if the product might be good. I

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> From: Byron <byron.jacobson@...>

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> Coconut Oil

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> Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 9:02:06 AM

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> Subject: Re: Protandim

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> DEE, I would challenge you on that one.. there is no way you could buy those

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> herbs for $9 a month even if it was floor sweepings. Get real and try adding

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> up even if you bought the poorest bulk product you can find it will be alot

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> No I dont sell it but after adding it up its not a bad deal I just dont like

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> > The ingredients in Protandim are the following:

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> > • Milk Thistle †" Supports liver health.

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> > & #8232;• Turmeric †" Provides a healthy response to inflammation.

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> > • Green Tea †" Increaces metabolism, burns fat. & #8232;

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> > • Bacopa †" Increases SOD and catalse production. & #8232;

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> > • Ashwagandha †" Used for centuries in India for numerous applications.

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> > The ingredients are all good. I take them all. If you buy Protandim,

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> >you will be paying $40 to $50 per month, while you can purchase the same

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> >ingredients for a total of only $9 per month (Swanson's). Also, I'm pretty

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> >you will get more of the ingredients by taking them separately, rather than

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> >amount that would fit into one capsule of Protandim. A quick check reveals

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> >Protandim is being sold by MLM (multi-level marketing) distributors:

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> > http://matthewneer.com/mlm/protandimreview/

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[Guest guest]

Elaine - this is my all time favorite whole food supplement - if you purchase

the capsule all it has as ingredients is blue green algae, and the capsule is

made from plant fiber and water.

http://www.healthyfutures.net/bluegreensolutions/products/products/alphasun.php

Carol

> I am interested in supplements that contain little/no fillers but every one I

check usually contain at least two of the fillers you listed.

> If anyone knows of any please list.

> thanks

> elaine