Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I have read in several places that krill are endangered. They are the main diet of whales. Carol > > Anyone have any comments? I first thought the whole krill oil thing was just a marketing fad, but now I'm not so sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 *Hi Tans: Dr. Mercola has been recommending krill oil for several years now and his arguments do make sense. I have been taking it for much longer than that because of what Lee Swanson and others said about it years ago. Some of these things will simply never be proven; but, again, the arguments in favor of krill are very good. Also, for what it is worth, years ago, I read that fish oil was used to induce cancer in lab rats. If that concerns you, maybe you should switch also... Not to mention that fish oil is pretty disgusting tasting stuff. Cheers, Jim* >Anyone have any comments? I first thought the whole krill oil thing was just a marketing fad, but now I'm not so sure... have there been any serious studies proving the claims of dramatically enhanced absorption, resulting in the much lower levels of EPA/DHA being just as beneficial as the much higher levels available in fish oils?< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Just two days ago on February 22 Dr Jim Mercole wrote a comprehensive article on Krill Oil entitled: " The Surprisingly Potent Asian Food that Delivers Health Benefits More than Fish Oil... " In the article Dr Mercola states among other things: " This unique relationship between the phospholipids and omega-3 fatty acids greatly facilitates the passage of the fatty acid molecules through your intestinal wall, and from there directly into the tissues that desperately need them, like your brain. This makes the fats in krill oil significantly more bioavailable than those in fish oil. In fact, recent studies show that *krill oil is absorbed 10-15 times as well as fish oil*. " and: " Krill is the most abundant biomass on Earth, amounting to about 500 million tons. Despite its growing popularity as a food source,less than 2 percent is harvested<http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/02/28/Scare-Ta\ ctics-Against-Krill-Oil-Proven-Inaccurate.aspx> .. Contrary to a statement made by National Geographic that told only part of the story, human consumption of krill oil does not steal significant food from our whales. In fact, harvesting fish for their oil creates far more of an environmental burden and is less sustainable than harvesting krill, as *90 percent* *of the fish that swam in the oceans 60 years ago are now gone due to overfishing*. " Link to Dr Mercola's article: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/02/22/krill-oil-effectiv\ e-even-at-lower-levels.aspx Clemens " Living simply so that others may simply live " On 24 February 2011 00:52, Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@...> wrote: > > > Anyone have any comments? I first thought the whole krill oil thing was > just a marketing fad, but now I'm not so sure... have there been any > serious studies proving the claims of dramatically enhanced absorption, > resulting in the much lower levels of EPA/DHA being just as beneficial > as the much higher levels available in fish oils? > > -- Kind regards, Clemens Vermeulen Contact: http://clemens.vermeulen.id.au/contact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Of course you do have to remember that Mercola sells Krill Oil. Not sure I would believe him over National Geographic. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I agree with krill oil; krill contains a group of fatty acids that are more potent anti-inflammatories than DHA, that are very beneficial even at low doses. You won't need much compared to fish oil. Hard to tell if it's another overkill fad supplement but its all it's supposed to be. all good, Duncan > > *Hi Tans: > > Dr. Mercola has been recommending krill oil for several years now and > his arguments do make sense. I have been taking it for much longer than > that because of what Lee Swanson and others said about it years ago. > Some of these things will simply never be proven; but, again, the > arguments in favor of krill are very good. > > Also, for what it is worth, years ago, I read that fish oil was used to > induce cancer in lab rats. If that concerns you, maybe you should > switch also... Not to mention that fish oil is pretty disgusting > tasting stuff. > > Cheers, > Jim* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 A better choice for some is whole marine phytoplankton. Another superfood, it contains DHA and EPA and also GLA in unusually high amounts for a whole food. This is a pronounced anti-inflammatory if EPA and DHA is met. 1/2 ounce by the look of it gets close to enough EFAs. Gesundheit marine phytoplankton is grown in a controlled solution. ><http://www.gesundheit.ca/products/features.php> Gesundheit marine phytoplankton would be my third choice of superfoods to take with me to that proverbial desert island, after undenatured whey and stabilised rice bran. National Geographic says we might overfish krill and bother the whales. It's probably inevitable as the human population doubles again over the next 70 years. We can take the pressure off our wilderness a bit by buying vat farmed food. On about vat-farmed food (How about a nice cell-line sandwich?) ...er, no thanks, I'll have the deluxe plankton salad please, and supersize it. all good, Duncan > > Of course you do have to remember that Mercola sells Krill Oil. Not sure I would believe him over National Geographic. > > Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 On 2011-02-23 5:43 PM, algaelady1 wrote: > I have read in several places that krill are endangered. They are the > main diet of whales. Reading things in several places doesn't make it so... I've read the exact opposite in several places. I would also hardly call National Geographic unbiased... On 2011-02-23 6:00 PM, Huuman wrote: > Dr. Mercola has been recommending krill oil for several years now and > his arguments do make sense. I have been taking it for much longer than > that because of what Lee Swanson and others said about it years ago. > Some of these things will simply never be proven; but, again, the > arguments in favor of krill are very good. > > Also, for what it is worth, years ago, I read that fish oil was used to > induce cancer in lab rats. If that concerns you, maybe you should > switch also... Not to mention that fish oil is pretty disgusting > tasting stuff. Thanks for the opinions... now I'd still like to know if there have been any actual *studies* done on krill oil, and more precisely, how well its EPA/DHA is absorbed in the body, as compared to that found in fish oil. Apparently no one here knows, so, it's... google-time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 So just because you read it on google doesn't make it so - how are you going to know? > > I have read in several places that krill are endangered. They are the main diet of whales. > > Reading things in several places doesn't make it so... I've read the > exact opposite in several places. I would also hardly call National > Geographic unbiased... > Apparently no one here knows, so, it's... google-time! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 On 2011-02-24 10:32 AM, algaelady1 wrote: > Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 2011-02-23 5:43 PM, algaelady1 wrote: >>> I have read in several places that krill are endangered. They are >>> the main diet of whales. >> Reading things in several places doesn't make it so... I've read the >> exact opposite in several places. I would also hardly call National >> Geographic unbiased... >> >> Apparently no one here knows, so, it's... google-time! > So just because you read it on google doesn't make it so - how are you > going to know? Are you *trying* to be a smartass? I'll thank you for NOT taking my comments out of context. You deliberately cut out the paragraph immediately preceding the google line wherein I said: > Thanks for the opinions... now I'd still like to know if there have been > any actual *studies* done on krill oil, and more precisely, how well its > EPA/DHA is absorbed in the body, as compared to that found in fish oil. So, obviously, I wasn't talking about $random-site, I was talking about reading [an] authoritative stud[y][ies] on the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 So how do you know the studies I read online about overfishing krill were not random sites and were not authoritative studies? And no, I'm not being a smarta**, it's a question I was seriously asking - how can you be so sure you are getting the facts, but I wasn't? > So, obviously, I wasn't talking about $random-site, I was talking about reading [an] authoritative stud[y][ies] on the question. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 On 2011-02-24 2:00 PM, algaelady1 wrote: > So how do you know the studies I read online about overfishing krill > were not random sites and were not authoritative studies? And no, > I'm not being a smarta**, it's a question I was seriously asking - > how can you be so sure you are getting the facts, but I wasn't? Umm... if memory serves, you just said you 'had read in several places online', and then some vague reference to National Geographic, so your question is irrelevant. Tell you what, if I find some studies, I'll actually reference them, then if you find some that contradict them and post them, we can see whose is bigger, ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 That sounds like a great idea. But I am just as offended as you are, in your implying that I had no idea what I was talking about. And we are looking for different information - so we won't contradict each other. You're looking for the merits of krill oil, and I'm looking for the fact that krill are being overfished. > Tell you what, if I find some studies, I'll actually reference them, > then if you find some that contradict them and post them, we can see > whose is bigger, ok? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 On 2011-02-24 2:41 PM, algaelady1 wrote: > That sounds like a great idea. But I am just as offended as you are, > in your implying that I had no idea what I was talking about. All I did was say that 'read some things online' or 'saw it on National Geographic' means nothing in the world of evidence and substance. If you want to take that as my implying that you don't know what you're talking about and be offended by it, that is your choice. > And we are looking for different information - so we won't > contradict each other. You're looking for the merits of krill oil, > and I'm looking for the fact that krill are being overfished. Shouldn't you be looking for the *truth*, rather than pre-supposing something is a fact and looking for corroboration? But you're right about the studies, so my apologies for my light-hearted jab about comparing apples and oranges... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 When I started looking into health, supplements, healing, I discovered (not to my surprise) that 90% of everything is garbage. It is a matter of reading and reading and more reading. Lots of taking notes. Lots of figuring out which on-line experts I came to trust and which ones creep me out. After a decade, there are still lots of questions. There are some web authors who I feel are paranoid, but which still sometimes give good advice. And other experts who I usually agree with, but not always. I am my own experimental lab rat. When I have some extra disposable income, I experiment withe promising looking products for month or two. When $$ again gets tight, I don't re-order the supplements which don't seem to be doing me any good. I suspect I will be doing this until I die. Alobar On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 1:00 PM, algaelady1 <carol@...> wrote: > > So how do you know the studies I read online about overfishing krill were not random sites and were not authoritative studies? Â And no, I'm not being a smarta**, it's a question I was seriously asking - how can you be so sure you are getting the facts, but I wasn't? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 are you kidding? A high percentage of your comments have a smartass connotation to them. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...... If you want to know something google it. no luck? google it again. --Hopefully you will find what you seek so that you will not have to turn to the coconut oil forum and make untoward comments to people who are trying to be helpful. elaine > >>> I have read in several places that krill are endangered. They are > >>> the main diet of whales. > > >> Reading things in several places doesn't make it so... I've read the > >> exact opposite in several places. I would also hardly call National > >> Geographic unbiased... > >> > >> Apparently no one here knows, so, it's... google-time! > > > So just because you read it on google doesn't make it so - how are you > > going to know? > > Are you *trying* to be a smartass? > > I'll thank you for NOT taking my comments out of context. You > deliberately cut out the paragraph immediately preceding the google line > wherein I said: > > > Thanks for the opinions... now I'd still like to know if there have been > > any actual *studies* done on krill oil, and more precisely, how well its > > EPA/DHA is absorbed in the body, as compared to that found in fish oil. > > So, obviously, I wasn't talking about $random-site, I was talking about > reading [an] authoritative stud[y][ies] on the question. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 But only if someone has smartassed me in the first place. Can you tell me why this comment has a smartass connotation? How could I have said it better? " I have read in several places that krill are endangered. They are the main diet of whales. " I believe that is the comment that started it. It was Tanstaafl that started with the smartass comments replying to that comment. > > are you kidding? A high percentage of your comments have a smartass connotation to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 sorry, comment from 2/25 directed toward Tanstaafl not algaelady1 >>> I have read in several places that krill are endangered. They are >>> the main diet of whales. >> Reading things in several places doesn't make it so... I've read the >> exact opposite in several places. I would also hardly call National >> Geographic unbiased... >> >> Apparently no one here knows, so, it's... google-time! > So just because you read it on google doesn't make it so - how are you > going to know? Are you *trying* to be a smartass? I'll thank you for NOT taking my comments out of context. You deliberately cut out the paragraph immediately preceding the google line wherein I said: > Thanks for the opinions... now I'd still like to know if there have been > any actual *studies* done on krill oil, and more precisely, how well its > EPA/DHA is absorbed in the body, as compared to that found in fish oil. So, obviously, I wasn't talking about $random-site, I was talking about reading [an] authoritative stud[y][ies] on the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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