Coconut oil and more....

[Guest guest]

Hi Alobar.

I haven't posted on the Coconut oil group for quite a while, but that is because

I have been following a healing diet that actually works!

It includes coconut oil as a good factor of the diet but uses good natural food

and some supplements to help the body heal. The lady who runs it does not

believe in giving the body too many supplements, as they can confuse it and stop

the healing process.

So far - I have been on the diet for over 10 months now - it is helping a lot.

Just over the last 6 weeks my body has been detoxing big-time - all coming out

of my liver, pancreas, lymph and spleen, etc. It's been quite a marathon but it

slowing right down now, so I can only assume that my body has virtually dealt

with all the crud - all my 50-odd year accumulation of toxins and rubbish. Hard

going - but quite exciting too...

I think the clearing might have happened sooner - and probably does in other

people - but for the fact that the gut damage I had from gluten has been taking

some time to repair so the nutrition has not been getting through my gut as well

as it might do in others. But I really do feel as though I am getting somewhere

now. I have tried so many diets and treatments over the years to try and sort

my health issues, but none of them has got anywhere near this one.

If you would like to check it out, the lady's name is Bee Wilder - her website

is called 'Healing Naturally by Bee' (I won't post the link as I am not

'spamming' - you can find it easily if you enter either of those details into

Google) and she also has a Support Group too. All her advice is free and

her website is a veritable goldmine of information - sometimes completely

opposite of what we have been 'brainwashed' into believing is true!

Her diet is not a 'quick-fix' - she has found that it take approximately 1

month for every year you have been sick - and for some people that goes right

back to birth, but so many post on her support group of the success they are

having, that it is really encouraging. I only have another three years to go!

:oD But at least I now have confidence that I am working towards health rather

than away from it!

Before I started her diet, I was doing the Specific Carbohydrate Diet for 2

years and felt that was very good, but there were still things that weren't

resolving even on that. Bee's diet takes it one step further and eliminates

ALL the foods that contribute to health issues - and explains why, and that,

along with the very good nutrition and things like real sea salt is what makes

the real difference.

I wish everyone could know about Bee's diet.....

Many regards,

Ali.

[Guest guest]

Several of Bee Wilder's health myths have been busted here and on the

candidiasis list. The people who contested any points with Bee on her own list

were immediately banned and the pertinent question/response was censored.

Bee Wilder's advice to go on a low-carb anti-candida diet is good but her grasp

of supplements is abysmal and a pretty important part of her advice is

unsupported wives tales. Bee's program is primarily unsupplemented so enforces

some deficiencies. Without the supplements it takes years when it works, and

many people on the candidiasis list couldn't wait for results that long and

eventually " graduated " to better information, left Bee's group, and got results

in two or three months that they hadn't in a year with Bee's method. Glad it

worked for you though.

all good,

Duncan

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> I wish everyone could know about Bee's diet.....

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> Many regards,

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> Ali.

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[Guest guest]

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

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> Several of Bee Wilder's health myths have been busted here and on the

> candidiasis list. The people who contested any points with Bee on her own

> list were immediately banned and the pertinent question/response was

> censored.

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> Bee Wilder's advice to go on a low-carb anti-candida diet is good but her

> grasp of supplements is abysmal and a pretty important part of her advice is

> unsupported wives tales. Bee's program is primarily unsupplemented so

> enforces some deficiencies. Without the supplements it takes years when it

> works, and many people on the candidiasis list couldn't wait for results

> that long and eventually " graduated " to better information, left Bee's

> group, and got results in two or three months that they hadn't in a year

> with Bee's method. Glad it worked for you though.

>

> all good,

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> Duncan

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> > I wish everyone could know about Bee's diet.....

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> > Many regards,

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> > Ali.

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[Guest guest]

What diet/method did those who left Bee's group and got results in two or

three months, follow?

Bee Wilder's advice to go on a low-carb anti-candida diet is good but her

> grasp of supplements is abysmal and a pretty important part of her advice is

> unsupported wives tales. Bee's program is primarily unsupplemented so

> enforces some deficiencies. Without the supplements it takes years when it

> works, and many people on the candidiasis list couldn't wait for results

> that long and eventually " graduated " to better information, left Bee's

> group, and got results in two or three months that they hadn't in a year

> with Bee's method. Glad it worked for you though.

>

> all good,

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> Duncan

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[Guest guest]

That was my experience with Bee's list also. I could see what was going on and

unsubbed.

Sherrie

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> > I wish everyone could know about Bee's diet.....

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> > Many regards,

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> > Ali.

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[Guest guest]

Sherrie, IMO if you keep repeating your experience with Bee's you

might save lives ...I've seen Bee's results range from OK some of the time

through no results most of the time and occasional actual harm, and Bee has

always blamed the patient when it didn't work, and often actually banned them

from her group.

It's a sect she's got really, not a help group.

all good,

Duncan

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> That was my experience with Bee's list also. I could see what was going on

and unsubbed.

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> Sherrie

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[Guest guest]

Duncan et al, you can rubbish Bee Wilder all you like, but that does not do your

own group any service at all. If you get good results all the time, I want to

see them. I want to see the benefits you are getting and how your bodies are

healing. It's no good just saying that people leave there and come 'here' and

get better - that is just anecdotal.

As Bee points out, she has other people leaving other unsuccessful treatments

and gaining far better on her regime - but at least she has successes to show it

- and personal testimonies coming through on the group all the time - there was

a fantastic one one there a week or two back. When you are sick, that gives you

such a boost. At the start, I was grateful for those success stories, and now,

10 months down the line, I am able to give encouragement to others coming behind

me.

Her website, although not maybe in line with your thinking, is very

comprehensive and she constantly updates as necessary. Do you have a similar

layout, and somewhere people can go to get a proper understanding of your

protocol?

I have been subscribed to this group for a couple of years - considerably longer

than on Bee's diet, and I read virtually all the messages that come through, yet

I have not seen the evidence of successful healing that I have seen on Bee's

group - which is one of the reasons I am following her protocol and not this

one. I just tried putting 'success' into the search box on this group and

although I went back through quite a few pages, I found only references to

projected outcomes, not to actual physical benefits.

I have always felt that this health malarky has to have a fairly simple and

straightforward answer. We are all basically the same - the only difference is

the level of our deficiencies and where they have impacted in our bodies, and

addressing the deficiencies has to be paramount. I am not a Bee 'disciple' as I

don't for one minute believe everything she says, but I do appreciate that her

diet, whilst getting results, does not demand the outlay of huge sums of money

for quack remedies, and is based almost exclusively on food and the healing

abilities of certain foods, like coconut oil, and eggs etc.

Having been sick most of my life, and not having had the benefits of unlimited

funds to find a 'cure', I have had to resort to the 'cheaper' routes in life,

most of which have been a dismal failure - until now.

You, and many other health professionals advocate fibre-rich foods for healing.

My body cannot cope with them. Bee recognizes that many sick people cannot cope

with them.

If this protocol is so good, why do people on this group keep posting about all

sorts of weird treatments and remedies? Our bodies were designed to eat real

food and drink real water, not fractionated stuff that has been 'adapted'. The

fact that people can survive in this World on a huge array of different natural

foods, is testament to us being able to survive - and in most cases, thrive, on

virtually any kind of food, as long as it is natural and unadulterated.

I want results - of course I want results. But I see a huge array of sick

people out there who spend thousands and thousands of pounds or dollars on

treatments that may, or may not make them better. My own parents went through

all that - for what? Mum died aged 64 from undiagnosed Celiac Disease (Bee's

diet would have sorted that) and Dad from severe gluten intolerance and arterial

disease (Bee's diet would have sorted that too).

So then, those of you who have rubbished Bee's regime - and anyone else who has

benefitted, let's see your success. Put it on here. Tell me and everyone else

who reads these posts how well you are doing and how you have benefitted, from

the supplements, undenatured whey and coconut oil. And it would be good to see

what you feel has made the most impact on your recovery.

Ali.

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> > That was my experience with Bee's list also. I could see what was going on

and unsubbed.

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> > Sherrie

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