HGH

[Guest guest]

Hi Ladies---I would like some feedback from women who have used rhgh

injections and what positive results they have experienced. Did diet

have any affect ? I hear more positives in men than women and more of

the tests subjects are men. I have been taking the injections for more

than 18 months now and seem

to be at a stand still. My ICF -1 results have been inconsistant.

Up down up down etc. I used to have the test done q. month now twice a

year. Feedback please. Let me know-(LMK)

[Guest guest]

I also would like to hear more input from women on GH. What brand, dose,

age, IGF levels and any negative or positive physical changes during

use..and how long have they been on GH. How has it affected other hormone

levels.

Re: Re:HGH

> Hi Ladies---I would like some feedback from women who have used rhgh

> injections and what positive results they have experienced. Did diet

> have any affect ? I hear more positives in men than women and more of

> the tests subjects are men. I have been taking the injections for more

> than 18 months now and seem

> to be at a stand still. My ICF -1 results have been inconsistant.

> Up down up down etc. I used to have the test done q. month now twice a

> year. Feedback please. Let me know-(LMK)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I also would like to hear more input from women on GH. What brand, dose,

age, IGF levels and any negative or positive physical changes during

use..and how long have they been on GH. How has it affected other hormone

levels.

Re: Re:HGH

> Hi Ladies---I would like some feedback from women who have used rhgh

> injections and what positive results they have experienced. Did diet

> have any affect ? I hear more positives in men than women and more of

> the tests subjects are men. I have been taking the injections for more

> than 18 months now and seem

> to be at a stand still. My ICF -1 results have been inconsistant.

> Up down up down etc. I used to have the test done q. month now twice a

> year. Feedback please. Let me know-(LMK)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I was on hgh for 8 months & it did nothing for me. If you are

considering it

> get an insulin based pit stim test first. If you are a man and you

have low

> testosterone that is easy to treat and will improve your muscle

strength. If

> you are a woman the hormone picture is much more complicated & if I

> understood it well I probably would not be living alone right now

(lol).

> steve

>

> growth factor are a whole different area -- I understand that

research in

> the area of MS is currently being done

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Here is a link that talks about an HGH enhancer. Anyway, thought it

was interesting. I was thinking about ordering some, but was leary...

Any feedback from the " well versed " would be appreciated.

https://erebus.safe-order.net/generic-co-op/hgh.htm

E Long

P.S. I changed the subject, because as we all know, Axel isn't nasty.

Right?!?! <smile>

>

> I also looked into the HGH (Human Growth Hormone) a little while

back as I heard it helps a lot in losing weight. But I found out it

is illegable in Canada. Also you have to be very careful when taking

it and the dose has to be exactly right for your specific body or you

get not so nice side effects.

> Tamra

[Guest guest]

Been using HGH about 18 months. Very helpful but must keep dose vy. low.

0.2 mg. 1-2x a week recommended in most cases. Steve B.

>From: " Kimber Wheatley " <Kimber@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: RE:

>Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:16:19 -0500

>

>I was wondering if anyone had any info on the use of growth hormones to

>treat our disease. I had recently talked to a friend who took it for

>other reason but the things it did to his body and changed were all

>things that would help us incredibly. So I want to know if anyone out

>there has ever used it or has any other info on it. I did a web search

>but that wasn't real helpful at all. Please let me know. Thank guys

>

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[Guest guest]

My doctor is trying to get me onto HGH, however I can afford it. I was

wondering if any of you are getting it " cheaply " through a particular

pharmacy or across the border/overseas. Also, I'd like to know which HGH

you're all using - Nutropin, Humatrope, whatever-trope.

- Cheers, Chris

RE:

> >Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:16:19 -0500

> >

> >I was wondering if anyone had any info on the use of growth hormones to

> >treat our disease. I had recently talked to a friend who took it for

> >other reason but the things it did to his body and changed were all

> >things that would help us incredibly. So I want to know if anyone out

> >there has ever used it or has any other info on it. I did a web search

> >but that wasn't real helpful at all. Please let me know. Thank guys

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I would also like to know if there are any alternatives that work - what

about somatotropin? (the only one which is available here)

Stania

TIA

RE:

> > >Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:16:19 -0500

> > >

> > >I was wondering if anyone had any info on the use of growth hormones to

> > >treat our disease. I had recently talked to a friend who took it for

> > >other reason but the things it did to his body and changed were all

> > >things that would help us incredibly. So I want to know if anyone out

> > >there has ever used it or has any other info on it. I did a web search

> > >but that wasn't real helpful at all. Please let me know. Thank guys

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Oh, thank you E Long, I was wonderin' what was up with that meself, I Love

Axel's SOH and he share's much great info... :-)

Lilla

P.S. I changed the subject, because as we all know, Axel isn't nasty.

Right?!?!

I also looked into the HGH (Human Growth Hormone) a little

while

back as I heard it helps a lot in losing weight. But I found out

it

is illegable in Canada. Also you have to be very careful when

taking

it and the dose has to be exactly right for your specific body or you

get not so nice side effects.

Tamra

--- Lilla Luoma

--- lillabell@...

Mitakuye oyasin....We Are All Related

[Guest guest]

TO whoever wanted to know:

I used to take HGH. Matter of fact, I still some in my fridge. It made me

feel great. I got smaller too. Only thing is - you have to remember to

take it at night - which I'd always forget to do, so I stopped taking it.

karen

:>)

RE: Re: HGH

>

>

> Oh, thank you E Long, I was wonderin' what was up with that meself, I Love

> Axel's SOH and he share's much great info... :-)

>

> Lilla

>

>

>

> P.S. I changed the subject, because as we all know, Axel isn't nasty.

>

>

> Right?!?!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> I also looked into the HGH (Human Growth Hormone) a little

> while

>

> back as I heard it helps a lot in losing weight. But I found out

> it

>

> is illegable in Canada. Also you have to be very careful when

> taking

>

> it and the dose has to be exactly right for your specific body or you

>

>

> get not so nice side effects.

>

> Tamra

>

> --- Lilla Luoma

>

> --- lillabell@...

>

> Mitakuye oyasin....We Are All Related

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You cna get it Cheaper from a guy named Ellis on the Anti-Aging list.

BUT most CFS folks can only tolerate a very small amount of HGH, the folks

that sell it in Mexico

sell in bulk.

Re: HGH

My doctor is trying to get me onto HGH, however I can afford it. I was

wondering if any of you are getting it " cheaply " through a particular

pharmacy or across the border/overseas. Also, I'd like to know which HGH

you're all using - Nutropin, Humatrope, whatever-trope.

- Cheers, Chris

RE:

> >Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:16:19 -0500

> >

> >I was wondering if anyone had any info on the use of growth hormones to

> >treat our disease. I had recently talked to a friend who took it for

> >other reason but the things it did to his body and changed were all

> >things that would help us incredibly. So I want to know if anyone out

> >there has ever used it or has any other info on it. I did a web search

> >but that wasn't real helpful at all. Please let me know. Thank guys

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

- can you tell me in summary why only low doses of HGH should be

used? I tried medium doses for a couple of months and noticed no bad

effects - would like to know what to look out for. Thanks, n.

At 04:19 06/12/01, you wrote:

>Been using HGH about 18 months. Very helpful but must keep dose vy. low.

>0.2 mg. 1-2x a week recommended in most cases. Steve B.

>

>

> >From: " Kimber Wheatley " <Kimber@...>

> >Reply-

> >< >

> >Subject: RE:

> >Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:16:19 -0500

> >

> >I was wondering if anyone had any info on the use of growth hormones to

> >treat our disease. I had recently talked to a friend who took it for

> >other reason but the things it did to his body and changed were all

> >things that would help us incredibly. So I want to know if anyone out

> >there has ever used it or has any other info on it. I did a web search

> >but that wasn't real helpful at all. Please let me know. Thank guys

> >

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Using Pharmacia's Bridge Program Mini-quick pre-loaded syringes. Good

price. Phone is 800-645-1280. Steve B.

>From: " Niestepski " <CDNinSC@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: HGH

>Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 22:54:28 -0800

>

>My doctor is trying to get me onto HGH, however I can afford it. I was

>wondering if any of you are getting it " cheaply " through a particular

>pharmacy or across the border/overseas. Also, I'd like to know which HGH

>you're all using - Nutropin, Humatrope, whatever-trope.

>

>- Cheers, Chris

>

> RE:

> > >Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:16:19 -0500

> > >

> > >I was wondering if anyone had any info on the use of growth hormones to

> > >treat our disease. I had recently talked to a friend who took it for

> > >other reason but the things it did to his body and changed were all

> > >things that would help us incredibly. So I want to know if anyone out

> > >there has ever used it or has any other info on it. I did a web search

> > >but that wasn't real helpful at all. Please let me know. Thank guys

> > >

> >

> >

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>each

>other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

>discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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[Guest guest]

> I was in a study and was on full replace dose of HGH for eight months,

> though at times we experimented with different dose. I did not feel one bit

> better. You do not measure HGH level directly you measure the increase in

> HGH in a pit stim test. If you are concerned about IGF-1 you can increase

> you testosterone level at a much lower cost.

>

> So HGH is no magic bullet and can cause edema and even diabetes.

>

> cheers

>

> Steve

Indirectly, it's still being measured though. Pit or not. I know it can cause

inaccuracy since there is no real direct way of measuring it, right. Why would

I want to increase my igf-1 to increase testosterone levels...will this in turn

indirectly increase gh as igf-1 is commonly corralated with gh levels? I'm not

sure testosterone would be the answer if this is what your saying. I simply

want to get an igf-1 test to help further establish my need for gh injection

treatment.

HGH can cause those things, without common sense, and some careful understanding

involved. Like with the cancer screening pre-gh treatment, it could help, or

help further a disease if previously undetected.

Eight months? It seems long enough, but arbitrary too, how old are you if I may

ask?

[Guest guest]

Luke, great post/followup to . I order from beyond-a-century as well. But

you didn't mention which supplement(s) you are taking you talk of.

" I'm getting great results from a cheap amino acid GH releaser. It

gives me such a kick I can only take it every two days. "

Which supplement(s) or formula are you taking?

Peace,

> > Hello all, is anyone on this list using HGH and is it helping or

> making

> > things worse? I am getting such mixed results....some say only

> injections

> > work and others say that tablets and sprays have benefits. Thanks,

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I'm getting great results from a cheap amino acid GH releaser. It

> gives me such a kick I can only take it every two days. There are

> half a dozen different formulations that have proven results, but

> from what I understand, you need to try a couple to see what works

> best for you. I doubt if you need to spend $90 on the fancy sprays,

> there is a lot of BS out there with people saying only MINE works

> etc.

>

> I also spoke recently to a guy who used the injectable pharmaceutical

> HGH. He said it was great, but it is $230 and you have to use it

> within 3 weeks. Not a viable option for many of us.

> http://www.beyond-a-century.com has both cheap amino acid Gh

> releasers and fancier products. They also have a new how to book on

> natural hormone enhancement. Designed primarily for athletes, there

> is probably a lot of overlap for those of us with an HPA defect. It

> just came out, so I don't have it yet.

>

> www.jomarlabs.com has day and nite GH releaser formulas.

>

> Give it a try!

>

> Luke

[Guest guest]

I've heard more negatives about this product than positives.

hgh

>

> GROWTH HORMONE (GH)

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>

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>

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[Guest guest]

I say: weight train diligently and make your own!!!! The more you lift, the

better shape you get into the more you will benefit! C'mon! It's fun, and

easy!

hgh

>

>

> >

> > GROWTH HORMONE (GH)

> > Restores muscle mass, HGH decreases body fat HGH, increases sexual

> > function, HGH thickens the skin, reducing wrinkles, HGH restores lost

> > hair, HGH restores hair color, HGH Increases energy, HGH improves

> > cholesterol profile, HGH Improves vision, HGH improves memory, HGH

> > elevates mood and improves sleep, HGH normalizes blood pressure, HGH

> > increases cardiac output and stamina

> > Real hgh, 100% natural, made in the USA

> > RECOM Maximum Strength hgh is the world's finest oral growth hormone

> > ( hgh ).

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[Guest guest]

That is the natural way and the best way to do it. Yes, your humor will be

missed.

Re: hgh

> I say: weight train diligently and make your own!!!! The more you lift,

the

> better shape you get into the more you will benefit! C'mon! It's fun, and

> easy!

[Guest guest]

Please make note....I've used HGH, and

what came back was a tumor (binign) which occured when I was about

16.

Same place ....between my breast & underarm.

I had it removed before my 18th birthday. By then it was the size

of a plum.

What happened was .....it resurfaced.!!!!! when I took the HGH.

SO BE FORWARN. I naturally took care of it with an ultrasound scan

after seeing my Doctor . It was benign, and finally went down to

nothing.

Love, Gaye

> I've heard more negatives about this product than positives.

>

> hgh

>

>

> >

> > GROWTH HORMONE (GH)

[Guest guest]

I consider this a " spam " .

> E- mail

me at mailto:fsaturn@a... specify how many you would like

> to purchase, and you will be send an invoice to purchase the

product.

[Guest guest]

Yes, and if there is any malignancy in your body that will grow very well too

and make it harder for your body to eliminate it. Be careful. Perhaps nature

knows best!

hgh

>

>

> >

> > GROWTH HORMONE (GH)

[Guest guest]

He used to be able to get generics, gts. That price was quite

acceptable. What ever happened to generic growth hormone? It was

on the market for a while.

[There were some generics from a European source that were being distributed

here

in the US for a short while about a year or two ago, as I recall, but I think he

started to question the quality of the product and immediately discontinued it

(that's how he is).

There is some good news on this front, however: according to reliable sources of

mine there is a new modestly-priced European product on the market that might be

excellent. I can't really speak for Ellis or anyone else, but maybe people will

start offering this product in the US at some time in the near future after it

is

proven safe and effective on the world market. I am personally following

developments in this area. (I've got my ear to the railroad tracks.) -gts]

[Guest guest]

I've started 1/2 IU *real* HGH as of last Wednesday. Will go to

1IU/day 6 days/week presuming I tolerate it.

No offense to those using homeopathic products, but I'd actually be

more concerned if something *did* actually start happening while using

it, because its sure as heck not HGH working!

Luke

[Guest guest]

No offense, just; how do you know? You have documentation for that?

What do you suppose is making me able to open jars, do other muscular tasks,

grow fingernails and hair, hm?

Adrienne

Re: HGH

I've started 1/2 IU *real* HGH as of last Wednesday. Will go to

1IU/day 6 days/week presuming I tolerate it.

No offense to those using homeopathic products, but I'd actually be

more concerned if something *did* actually start happening while using

it, because its sure as heck not HGH working!

Luke

[Guest guest]

G'day. I am wondering why you continue to use Somatropin, which I

assume is quite expensive, if you are still in pain and barely able

to work part time?? Best regards,

Mike C.

> G'day folks,

>

> I only drop by this group every now and again however I noted with

> interest the discussion about HGH.

>

> I have been using Homoeopathic recombinant sublingual HGH

> (Somatropin) 8mg (24IU) x 3 daily for 212 days as part my attempt

to

> improve my CFS/FM status which at present is cycling so much I am

> having difficulty establishing what may be working and what isn't.

>

> I am generally able to carefully function each day with

considerable

> pain and work very part time.

>

> Incidentally,I use a local Australian brand of HGH.