HGH

[Guest guest]

Sounds like an extremely high dose. I only take 0.2 mg HGH 1x a week.

>From: " prescriptable " <prescriptable@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: HGH

>Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:14:34 -0000

>

>G'day folks,

>

>I only drop by this group every now and again however I noted with

>interest the discussion about HGH.

>

>I have been using Homoeopathic recombinant sublingual HGH

>(Somatropin) 8mg (24IU) x 3 daily for 212 days as part my attempt to

>improve my CFS/FM status which at present is cycling so much I am

>having difficulty establishing what may be working and what isn't.

>

>I am generally able to carefully function each day with considerable

>pain and work very part time.

>

>Incidentally,I use a local Australian brand of HGH.

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Homepathic HGH does work but it is much more difficult to gauge your dose on

a regular basis.

>From: " Adrienne Gomez " <duckblossm@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: Re: HGH

>Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:42:58 -0700

>

>No offense, just; how do you know? You have documentation for that?

>What do you suppose is making me able to open jars, do other muscular

>tasks, grow fingernails and hair, hm?

>Adrienne

> Re: HGH

>

>

> I've started 1/2 IU *real* HGH as of last Wednesday. Will go to

> 1IU/day 6 days/week presuming I tolerate it.

>

> No offense to those using homeopathic products, but I'd actually be

> more concerned if something *did* actually start happening while using

> it, because its sure as heck not HGH working!

>

> Luke

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah Luke I was going to say..if you crash..then reduce your dose, 1 IU is .3

mg a day, that is what someone would take if they had a GH deficiency..I am

not sure of your current situation or what is wrong with you exactly, but if

you are very sensitive to medications, inhalants, etc...you will probably be

sensitive to GH and prone to crash given a high dosage...then again, if you are

not that sensitive to meds, then you might not, listen to your body, but if you

crash taking 1 IU a day, then dont just give it up, reduce your dosage, I

take about .4-.6 mg a week....works very well for me, thats about 2 IU's a

week..in divided doses of course, best thing I have ever taken...

Func

[Guest guest]

Thanks Func, I'm being cautious because I really want to avoid a crash,

but I seem to be managing things ok at the moment, so I might go to 1

IU/day 6 days/week next week and see how it goes. I have idiopathic

(ugh) hypopituitarism it seems, so its more a case of being hormone

deficient than having any immune abnormalities, so I should avoid

crashing as Cheney describes.

Func can I ask what brand of HGH are you using and how is it delivered?

I'm using scitropen

(http://www.scigen.com.au/sc09_scitropin/content.html) which comes as

one vial of hgh and one vial of saline solution, which you need to

combine (using a syringe), and then it lasts for 14 days, and you need

to keep it refrigerated. I draw it out with a syringe, switch needles,

and inject, which is somewhat cumbersome (and slightly surreal!). I

think there's different products which last longer, I'll have to read

up. Do you use something similar?

Cheers,

Luke

> Yeah Luke I was going to say..if you crash..then reduce your dose, 1

IU is .3

> mg a day, that is what someone would take if they had a GH

deficiency..I am

> not sure of your current situation or what is wrong with you exactly,

but if

> you are very sensitive to medications, inhalants, etc...you will

probably be

> sensitive to GH and prone to crash given a high dosage...then again,

if you are

> not that sensitive to meds, then you might not, listen to your body,

but if you

> crash taking 1 IU a day, then dont just give it up, reduce your

dosage, I

> take about .4-.6 mg a week....works very well for me, thats about 2

IU's a

> week..in divided doses of course, best thing I have ever taken...

>

> Func

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Luke,

From what I understand HGH is produced synthetically now, making it all

the same 191 chain amino acid molecule, no matter whether it is produced from

ecoli (humatrope) or other means, its all the same molecule, the only thing

different is the name. I am using Serostim currently. And your right, because

of your condition you might actually benefit from taking 1 IU a day...keep me

posted I am interested as to how it affects you,

good luck,

Func

[Guest guest]

>

> My (unsolicited) opinion: I think there is definitely something to

> it. However, the main thing you (and everyone) should be focusing

on

> is finding the reason that your cartilage is wearing down.

> Otherwise, even if you regrow your cartilage, it may just wear down

> again. You need to look for an alignment issue, strength

imbalance,

> flexibility problem or whatever it is that is causing your

cartilage

> to wear away.

>

> Easier said than done, of course... The trick is finding a good

doc

> who will give you a thorough examination, also easier said than

done.

Not easy to do at all for many of us. You may have to go outside your

medical plan and pay out of your pocket. But it's worth making the

extra effort and expense for someone to do this. If I'd done this to

begin with I could've saved myself 2 years!

[Guest guest]

> Does anyone have experience with Zlabs-HGH (secretagogue)?

I don't have experience with this product but feel exercise

is our best and least costly bet for HGH. If exercise is not

appealing for various reasons, then the task becomes creating

an " opening " so the person can and wants to exercise and it's

rewarding and self-reinforcing for them. If the desire and joy

are not there, something is wrong, we need to find out what it

is and fix it.

(The estrogen in women's hormone replacement

therapy is another source of HGH.)

Carol

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Article archive, blog, links, non-commercial, not a discussion group.

[Guest guest]

How does estrogen relate to HGH?

Re: HGH

> Does anyone have experience with Zlabs-HGH (secretagogue)?

I don't have experience with this product but feel exercise

is our best and least costly bet for HGH. If exercise is not

appealing for various reasons, then the task becomes creating

an " opening " so the person can and wants to exercise and it's

rewarding and self-reinforcing for them. If the desire and joy

are not there, something is wrong, we need to find out what it

is and fix it.

(The estrogen in women's hormone replacement

therapy is another source of HGH.)

Carol

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Article archive, blog, links, non-commercial, not a discussion group.

Note: This forum is for discussion of health related subjects but under no

circumstances should any information published here be considered a substitute

for personal medical advice from a qualified physician. -the owner

[Guest guest]

The only reason I put the one I put on here is that trudeau says to NEVER go on injections and use the HGH from alwaysyoung.com. He said that if you go on injections your bodys natural ability of producing theser hormones shut down and you will be stuck on the injections for the rest of your life. This is why I looked into a safe natural way. This is the best one in my opinion I could find. There are even doctor testimonials on there who have tried this product with amazing results. I hope this helps. Jenrvpcindi <rvpcindi@...> wrote: If you get on http://forum.lef.org/ and look at the second forum down, you will get an education on hgh. You will find that the sprays , pills, etc. do not work the way the hgh shots do for any spot reduction. Be sure to do your research before any more of you spend money on the hgh sprays.

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i read that the oral hgh actually helps your body to produce the hormone. the injections you are actually using the hormone Richling <jrichl002@...> wrote: The only reason I put the one I put on here is that trudeau says to NEVER go on injections and use the HGH from alwaysyoung.com. He said that if you go on injections your bodys natural ability of producing theser hormones shut down and you will be stuck on the injections for the rest of your life. This is why I looked into a safe

natural way. This is the best one in my opinion I could find. There are even doctor testimonials on there who have tried this product with amazing results. I hope this helps. Jenrvpcindi <rvpcindi > wrote: If you get on http://forum.lef.org/ and look at the second forum down, you will get an education on hgh. You will find that the sprays , pills, etc. do not work the way the hgh shots do for any spot reduction. Be sure to do your research before any more of you spend money on the hgh sprays. Get the free toolbar and

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Hey Jen... Did you notice on the alwaysyoung.com website it says under DOCUMENTED BENEFITS OF HGH* (Benefits described below are based on studies using injectable hgh) Why would they advertise the benefits of the injectable hgh when they're selling the spray form??? I also typed into GOOGLE: oral vs. injectable hgh and come up with a bunch of different sites that I'm checking out now. Also ... off the hgh subject for a second ... did anyone watch Oprah today? She had Bob Greene, her personal weight loss guru, and 6 people that have been on her Weight Loss Challenge for the past 14 weeks (that's 3 and 1/2 months!!). Some lost 5 lbs, some 20, some 14, and I think the guy lost

almost 30. How DEPRESSING is that to diet and work out for 3 and 1/2 MONTHS to have only lost 14 lbs!!!! A pound per week!!! Not us! Not anymore!!! elisha wheeler <elisha7576@...> wrote: i read that the oral hgh actually helps your body to produce the hormone. the injections you are actually using the hormone Richling <jrichl002 > wrote: The only reason I put the one I put on here is that trudeau says to NEVER go on injections and use the HGH from alwaysyoung.com. He said that if you go on injections your bodys natural ability of producing theser hormones shut down and you will be stuck on the injections for the rest of your life. This is why I looked into a safe natural way. This is the best one in my opinion I could find. There are even doctor testimonials on there who have tried this product with amazing results. I hope this helps. Jenrvpcindi <rvpcindi > wrote: If you get on http://forum.lef.org/ and look at the second forum down, you will get an education on hgh. You will find

that the sprays , pills, etc. do not work the way the hgh shots do for any spot reduction. Be sure to do your research before any more of you spend money on the hgh sprays. Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Travel to find your fit.

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I found a guy in Mexico who is an expert on HGH. He sells it without a Rx. It's the injectable kind. I am getting some of the injectable kind tomorrow. I am doing that in conjunction with DHEA, CLA, and Lecithin. This will not cause your pituitary gland to stop producing what little HGH it already does. This is the link. http://www.rajeun.net/buying.html

From: weluv2sail@...Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 14:12:05 -0700Subject: Re: hgh

Hey Jen...

Did you notice on the alwaysyoung.com website it says under DOCUMENTED BENEFITS OF HGH*

(Benefits described below are based on studies using injectable hgh)

Why would they advertise the benefits of the injectable hgh when they're selling the spray form??? I also typed into GOOGLE: oral vs. injectable hgh and come up with a bunch of different sites that I'm checking out now.

Also ... off the hgh subject for a second ... did anyone watch Oprah today? She had Bob Greene, her personal weight loss guru, and 6 people that have been on her Weight Loss Challenge for the past 14 weeks (that's 3 and 1/2 months!!). Some lost 5 lbs, some 20, some 14, and I think the guy lost almost 30. How DEPRESSING is that to diet and work out for 3 and 1/2 MONTHS to have only lost 14 lbs!!!! A pound per week!!! Not us! Not anymore!!!

elisha wheeler <elisha7576 > wrote:

i read that the oral hgh actually helps your body to produce the hormone. the injections you are actually using the hormone Richling <jrichl002 > wrote:

The only reason I put the one I put on here is that trudeau says to NEVER go on injections and use the HGH from alwaysyoung.com. He said that if you go on injections your bodys natural ability of producing theser hormones shut down and you will be stuck on the injections for the rest of your life. This is why I looked into a safe natural way. This is the best one in my opinion I could find. There are even doctor testimonials on there who have tried this product with amazing results. I hope this helps.

Jenrvpcindi <rvpcindi > wrote:

If you get on http://forum.lef.org/ and look at the second forum down, you will get an education on hgh. You will find that the sprays , pills, etc. do not work the way the hgh shots do for any spot reduction. Be sure to do your research before any more of you spend money on the hgh sprays.

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Wonderful!!! Now I'm reallllly confused!!!!!BETSY AUSTIN <austinb316@...> wrote: I found a guy in Mexico who is an expert on HGH. He sells it without a Rx. It's the injectable kind. I am getting some of the injectable kind tomorrow. I am doing that in conjunction with DHEA, CLA, and Lecithin. This will not cause your pituitary gland to stop producing what little HGH it already does. This is the link. http://www.rajeun.net/buying.html From: weluv2sail Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 14:12:05 -0700Subject: Re: hgh Hey Jen... Did you notice on the alwaysyoung.com website it says under DOCUMENTED BENEFITS OF HGH* (Benefits described below are based on studies using injectable hgh) Why would they advertise the benefits of the injectable hgh when they're selling the spray form??? I also typed into GOOGLE: oral vs. injectable hgh and come up with a bunch of

different sites that I'm checking out now. Also ... off the hgh subject for a second ... did anyone watch Oprah today? She had Bob Greene, her personal weight loss guru, and 6 people that have been on her Weight Loss Challenge for the past 14 weeks (that's 3 and 1/2 months!!). Some lost 5 lbs, some 20, some 14, and I think the guy lost almost 30. How DEPRESSING is that to diet and work out for 3 and 1/2 MONTHS to have only lost 14 lbs!!!! A pound per week!!! Not us! Not anymore!!! elisha wheeler <elisha7576 > wrote: i read that the oral hgh actually helps your body to produce the hormone. the injections you are actually using the hormone Richling <jrichl002 > wrote: The only reason I put the one I put on here is that trudeau says to NEVER go on injections and use the HGH from alwaysyoung.com. He said that if you go on injections your bodys natural ability of producing theser hormones shut down and you will be stuck on the injections for the rest of your life. This is why I looked into a safe natural way. This is the best one in my opinion I could find. There are even doctor testimonials on there who have tried this product with amazing results. I hope this helps. Jenrvpcindi <rvpcindi > wrote: If you get on http://forum.lef.org/ and look at the second forum down, you will get an

education on hgh. You will find that the sprays , pills, etc. do not work the way the hgh shots do for any spot reduction. Be sure to do your research before any more of you spend money on the hgh sprays. Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Travel to find your fit.

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[Guest guest]

HGH is used to treat fat accumulation in the belly, not lipoatrophy. HGH can worsen lipoatrophy.

In a message dated 12/11/07 8:20:08 AM, Sotoway@... writes:

Hi :

 

I wanted to ask the group if anyone knew of a doctor in the NY/NJ area that uses HGH to treat Lipoatrophy and is affordable.

 

Thank you for your help.

 

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[Guest guest]

HGH is used to treat fat accumulation in the belly, not lipoatrophy. HGH can worsen lipoatrophy.

In a message dated 12/11/07 8:20:08 AM, Sotoway@... writes:

Hi :

 

I wanted to ask the group if anyone knew of a doctor in the NY/NJ area that uses HGH to treat Lipoatrophy and is affordable.

 

Thank you for your help.

 

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[Guest guest]

My mistake that is what I meant I have fat in the abdomen and back that will not move. I have Lipodystrophy and atrophy - skinnny arms. But muscular because I adhere to a vigorous work out regimen.

HGH will be th only thing to correct this. Is there a doctor in the NY/NJ area.

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[Guest guest]

My mistake that is what I meant I have fat in the abdomen and back that will not move. I have Lipodystrophy and atrophy - skinnny arms. But muscular because I adhere to a vigorous work out regimen.

HGH will be th only thing to correct this. Is there a doctor in the NY/NJ area.

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[Guest guest]

Here is a post from another group on HGH.  Take note that he said it

should not be taken internally.  This is just for info, i have  no interest in

hormones as  family members that have passed on died  from cancer.

 

 

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Just general information, I have leukemia, was given chemo, and seven

years later, the leukemia began to return, I discovered accidentally

that if I took half a unit human growth hormone, daily, it boosted my

immune system, red blood cells and plateletts about forty percent.

That's been five years ago. I was paying fourteen hundred for hundred

eighteen units. So I took half a unit nightly for a month, then

noticed I felt better and had lab work done, white blood cells went

from twenty five hundred to four thousand, I continued to take HGH

for several years, and it kept my health in good order. About a year

ago, I switched from HGH to LDN, which replaced the HGH with much less

costs. From about ten bux a day to twenty five cents a day.

Some six months ago, I dumped my bike, and landed on my left elbow

rather hard, it messed up my muscles and tendons which controls my

left rotator cup, shoulder. Have done that twice before and the only

way to recover is for me to totally immobilize the shoulder for about

a month. This time I gave myself two units of HGH, placed in several

spots around the shoulder I had injured. Did the shots every other

day, I was back playing golf within two weeks.

I knocked on three docks doors attempting to get a script for HGH, but

to no avail. Consequently I had to pay and continue to pay for HGH.

And I guess that is way it is supposed to be.

My point is, if I get injured, spinal, whatever I will explore the use

of HGH. I belong to two different lists that are aging related, on

those lists we normally have one or two really negative posts about

the use of Human Growth Hormone a month. HGH has been proven

seventeen thousand times, that it cannot be taken orally, so always w/

haste avoid those scams.

But I have yet to find a single instance of negative healthwise,

associated with HGH.

Anywho, thats my story, and I am sticking with it.

stay well,

[Guest guest]

Responding to the post below:

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, I belong to two different lists that are aging related, on

those lists we normally have one or two really negative posts about

the use of Human Growth Hormone a month. HGH has been proven

seventeen thousand times, that it cannot be taken orally, so always w/

haste avoid those scams.

But I have yet to find a single instance of negative healthwise,

associated with HGH.

My response/query is this; I am a firm believer in the many benefits of HGH

, but not taken orally, rather by shots. However, and for me it is a big

however, in 1994 I took only four shots of HGH in Basel, Switzerland from

one of the leaders in this field, and I grew one and one half inchers and

my bone structure became larger. I was a mature adult, long past the

growing stage. Now, even though I would like to consider taking HGH from

time to time, I am very wary of having a repeat experience.

Taffy

[Guest guest]

I question the wisdom of any of the isolated elements such as hormones.

It would seem to me that this is a way to throw our bodies out of balance

attempting a quick fix rather than working with nutrition and whole food

supplements to bring our bodies into balance. There may be a situation in which

HGH would be desirable, but to take it just because someone is selling it does

not strike me as one of them.

Deepak Chopra, the mind body genius, talks about it a lot on one of his tapes.

He does not think taking it is safe or advisable. If our body pharmacy makes

it, that's a different story....keeping our bodies balanced and functioning

optimally is the way to create it naturally.

Carol

[Guest guest]

But you have never told me what deficiency you have found in the blue green

algae. Because I don't believe you can find any.

I do not have an unreasonable fear of isolated supplements. I have a reasonable

fear of my body becoming unbalanced by taking those isolated supplements. Your

body does not want megadoses of stuff. I have a reasonable fear that most

isolated/synthetic supplements are sourced from China.

Carol

I could go on of course because every whole food has its deficiencies, even the

" superfoods " , and I've gone over that point for Carol, using her own whole food

and other algae as the example.

The fact is, deficiencies exist. But rather than saying, " end of story " , we can

correct the deficiencies. An unreasonable fear of isolated supplements shouldn't

be the reason to scuttle a health program. By using them one will find health

avenues to be open to them that would not be otherwise available, including the

anti-aging approach.

Duncan

[Guest guest]

Carol, yes I pointed out the low selenium in algae previously; the discussion

can be found by entering selenium algae in the forum's search box.

I pointed out that you'd need to eat 2 pounds of algae daily in order to meet

the selenium shortfall, to which you replied that you wouldn't eat that much

yourself, you wouldn't recommend it, and you wouldn't supplement the shortfall

either. So your assertion that " everything is in there " is deceiving,

inaccurate, and your glib reply that you wouldn't suggest supplementation, even

given this probable deficiency, is a disservice to readers who trust your

information to be accurate.

I'm sure there would be other examples; I believe vitamin B12 for example isn't

as bioavailable in algae as the marketers said it is. I note also that the army

will no longer entertain algae bricks as a complete whole food, although I agree

with the army that it was a great concept if it could be done.

Point is, algae is not really complete, and saying it represents all the

nutritional elements does not address the real question of whether each element

is adequate. It is not, thus deficient by definition.

So I'd supplement.

all good,

Duncan

> I could go on of course because every whole food has its deficiencies, even

the " superfoods " , and I've gone over that point for Carol, using her own whole

food and other algae as the example.

> The fact is, deficiencies exist. But rather than saying, " end of story " , we can

correct the deficiencies. An unreasonable fear of isolated supplements shouldn't

be the reason to scuttle a health program. By using them one will find health

avenues to be open to them that would not be otherwise available, including the

anti-aging approach.

> Duncan

>

[Guest guest]

Ahh - so you are saying it does have selenium in it. Just because it has a small

amount doesn't mean it's deficient. It is balanced with the other nutrients.

And yes, B12 is bioavailable in it. You " believe " it is not bioavailable, so

then I guess you must be right? It is the most nutrient-dense complete whole

food on the planet. It has all the nutritional components. It has no shortfall

of any of the nutrients. It has already been proven. And you cannot prove it

doesn't. When I said " everything is in there " that's exactly what I mean. I

was not being deceiving or inaccurate, I was being truthful. More is not always

better. Having a balanced body is better.

Carol

>

> Carol, yes I pointed out the low selenium in algae previously; the discussion

can be found by entering selenium algae in the forum's search box.

>

> I pointed out that you'd need to eat 2 pounds of algae daily in order to meet

the selenium shortfall, to which you replied that you wouldn't eat that much

yourself, you wouldn't recommend it, and you wouldn't supplement the shortfall

either. So your assertion that " everything is in there " is deceiving,

inaccurate, and your glib reply that you wouldn't suggest supplementation, even

given this probable deficiency, is a disservice to readers who trust your

information to be accurate.

>

> I'm sure there would be other examples; I believe vitamin B12 for example

isn't as bioavailable in algae as the marketers said it is. I note also that the

army will no longer entertain algae bricks as a complete whole food, although I

agree with the army that it was a great concept if it could be done.

>

> Point is, algae is not really complete, and saying it represents all the

nutritional elements does not address the real question of whether each element

is adequate. It is not, thus deficient by definition.

>

> So I'd supplement.

>

> all good,

>

> Duncan

>

> --- In Coconut Oil , " algaelady1 "

> > But you have never told me what deficiency you have found in the blue green

algae. Because I don't believe you can find any.

> >

> > I do not have an unreasonable fear of isolated supplements. I have a

reasonable fear of my body becoming unbalanced by taking those isolated

supplements. Your body does not want megadoses of stuff. I have a reasonable

fear that most isolated/synthetic supplements are sourced from China.

> > Carol

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol,

I don't know enough about colostrum, but I thought it was the most complete

whole food on the planet. Do you know the comparisons?

Anne

> >

> > Carol, yes I pointed out the low selenium in algae previously; the

discussion can be found by entering selenium algae in the forum's search box.

> >

> > I pointed out that you'd need to eat 2 pounds of algae daily in order to

meet the selenium shortfall, to which you replied that you wouldn't eat that

much yourself, you wouldn't recommend it, and you wouldn't supplement the

shortfall either. So your assertion that " everything is in there " is deceiving,

inaccurate, and your glib reply that you wouldn't suggest supplementation, even

given this probable deficiency, is a disservice to readers who trust your

information to be accurate.

> >

> > I'm sure there would be other examples; I believe vitamin B12 for example

isn't as bioavailable in algae as the marketers said it is. I note also that the

army will no longer entertain algae bricks as a complete whole food, although I

agree with the army that it was a great concept if it could be done.

> >

> > Point is, algae is not really complete, and saying it represents all the

nutritional elements does not address the real question of whether each element

is adequate. It is not, thus deficient by definition.

> >

> > So I'd supplement.

> >

> > all good,

> >

> > Duncan

> >

> > --- In Coconut Oil , " algaelady1 "

> > > But you have never told me what deficiency you have found in the blue

green algae. Because I don't believe you can find any.

> > >

> > > I do not have an unreasonable fear of isolated supplements. I have a

reasonable fear of my body becoming unbalanced by taking those isolated

supplements. Your body does not want megadoses of stuff. I have a reasonable

fear that most isolated/synthetic supplements are sourced from China.

> > > Carol

>

[Guest guest]

Is this something that people do otc, or is it a doctor supervised

diet only? I never understood all the talk about the hgh diet before.

Posted by: " Duncan Crow " duncancrow@... duncancrow

Fri Feb 4, 2011 12:22 pm (PST)

Many people miss the point that doctors bring a low HGH condition (low

human growth hormone) back INTO balance from way too low by using HGH

injections. Carol is in good company in that regard.

Here's where it's most wise to meet that problem head on: an anti-

aging doctor attempts to restore the balanced youth markers of young

adulthood from the starting point of naturally falling and unbalanced

youth markers and probable (also unbalanced) nutritional deficiencies

of the elderly.

15 years ago people took a screaming high HGH shot about once a week.

The method has been improved to be more biologically correct, and

people take a much lower dose daily now so side effects of HGH shots

never crop up. What's more, secretagogues never induce the release of

excess HGH because of this natural mechanism for balance.

HGH therapy brings several hormones back into balance for a young

adult, so it's not really an isolated approach at all; it is a

catalyst if you will for a much broader actionthat includes improving

the immune system, organ size and function, physical fitness, healing,

energy and recovery, sleep patterns, libido, and a whole range of

other positive and measurable effects that you can't accomplish any

other way.

When one is deficient in several vitamins or minerals one improves the

diet and supplements in order to prevent the falling levels and

restore balance, just like bringing up HGH release to youthful values.

Anti-aging is not rocket science and it's easy to accomplish; in fact

it's only about 2 baby steps away from detoxing and nutritional

considerations we are doing today.

Dr. Rudman's research paper says, " Diminished secretion of growth

hormone is responsible in part for the decrease of lean body mass, the

expansion of adipose-tissue mass, and the thinning of the skin that

occur in old age. "

From research by Ezzat S et al, " GH replacement therapy in adults

with GHD demonstrated beneficial effects on lean body mass composition

that was more pronounced in males than females. In contrast, cardiac

function improvement appears to benefit both genders equally. "

" We therefore suggest the use of low-dose GH therapy, maintaining IGF-

I between the median and upper end of the age-related reference range,

for the treatment of age related GH deficiency. " Clin Endocrinol

(Oxf). 2001 Jun;54(6):709-17.

PMID: 11422104

By way of example on HGH level, research has revealed that no

centenarians exist with " normal " glutathione levels; all were in the

upper quartile for glutathione level. Similarly, in the HGH and aging

papers, the most vigorous elders are always in the upper quartile for

HGH release.

Here, Dr. Holt explains, in his latest American Academy of

Anti-Aging presentation in February 2011, the importance of nutrition,

and of nutrition, he recognises whole supplements are preferred but

sometimes not possible.

http://www.spiderphone.com/RealCast/8823289173/Flashcast.html

Like the professional says, so what if your whole foods don't provide

the last few things that would get you out of a metabolic funk? Go

ahead and supplement! Selenium for example is usually deficient in

food grown in North America. I could go on of course because every

whole food has its deficiencies, even the " superfoods " , and I've gone

over that point for Carol, using her own whole food and other algae as

the example.

The fact is, deficiencies exist. But rather than saying, " end of

story " , we can correct the deficiencies. An unreasonable fear of

isolated supplements shouldn't be the reason to scuttle a health

program. By using them one will find health avenues to be open to them

that would not be otherwise available, including the anti-aging

approach.

Regardless of the entire post above, most anti-agers don't use HGH

injections anyway, preferring secretagogues that promote a balanced

HGH release from one's own pituitary gland. This release, within

natural balance and control, also is often a point missed or glossed

over by detractors of " hormone therapy " . Natural maintenance of

balanced, youthful HGH release is the objective.

all good,

Duncan