Re: a question about Somalife blend

[Guest guest]

Tanstaafl, when doctors duplicated the SomaLife blend the mix they made was not

as effective. Maybe they didn't have the absolutely pure amino acids required,

which is a big issue with amino acids, but that's the story. The claim is that

the form may have been changed to make the proprietary amino acids more

effective. I never found out how. You may have to increase the dose. A fella I

know locally had been blending his own for years but switched to SomaLife gHP

when he found he was only saving about 10%-15% and he wasn't sure his blend was

equivalent.

Nonetheless if the aminos are pure and free form they will work.

all good,

Duncan

> > The Somalife patent outlines a range of patented formulae that ought

> > to be the most useful; I put a copy up on my hgh therapy page.

> >

> >><http://members.shaw.ca/SomaLife-gHP/USPatent_6346264.htm>

>

> Thanks for that Duncan! I missed it on your pages...

>

> I'll make some calls and do the math and see how much I can save by

> making it myself.

>

> From your experience with it, do you know if they did anything to the

> mixture to make it more assimilable? Ie, some kind of processing that

> would make an attempt to make one's own high quality version futile?

>

[Guest guest]

On 2011-02-24 12:29 PM, Duncan Crow wrote:

> Tanstaafl, when doctors duplicated the SomaLife blend the mix they made

> was not as effective. Maybe they didn't have the absolutely pure amino

> acids required, which is a big issue with amino acids, but that's the

> story. The claim is that the form may have been changed to make the

> proprietary amino acids more effective. I never found out how. You may

> have to increase the dose. A fella I know locally had been blending his

> own for years but switched to SomaLife gHP when he found he was only

> saving about 10%-15% and he wasn't sure his blend was equivalent.

Thanks... sounds like it may not be worth the hassle, but I'll run the

numbers anyway and see... but yeah, if its only 15% savings, it won't be

worth it.

[Guest guest]

One other thing, I'm in Canada, the dollar was depressed at the time and

shipping is kinda high. If buddy got a 15% saving you might do 20% or more in

the USA.

Now for exactly duplicating the mix.... well, people get results with the top

four HGH secretagogues lysine arginine glycine ang glutamine. You could forget

the branched chain components as they don't trigger HGH and the whey contains

lots of them anyway. I'd suggest that 1.5 grams of arginine and lysine each, and

1 gram of each of the other three should give pretty good results.

The purity has to be real good. Try dissolving some in a glass of water; it

should float on top like styrene unless it's impure. Most amino acids made in

the USA are from meat, and semi digested meat proteins colour the water with

impurities that compromise the triggering effect. Only 3 factories were said to

be able to produce the good purity (one is in Japan; Japan specifies non-GMO soy

for amino acids extraction for SomaLife gHP, which is vegan safe)

all good,

Duncan

>

> Thanks... sounds like it may not be worth the hassle, but I'll run the

> numbers anyway and see... but yeah, if its only 15% savings, it won't be

> worth it.

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry I missed one HGH increaser indeed; there are five top

secretagogues. Ornithine, which is closely related to arginine, should be in a

good blend. I think synergy is the reason the entire dose in six capsules,

including the branched-chain amino acids, was only about 5.3 grams but maxed out

HGH release anyway.

all good,

Duncan

> > Now for exactly duplicating the mix.... well, people get results with

> > the top four HGH secretagogues lysine arginine glycine ang glutamine.

> > You could forget the branched chain components as they don't trigger HGH

> > and the whey contains lots of them anyway. I'd suggest that 1.5 grams of

> > arginine and lysine each, and 1 gram of each of the other three should

> > give pretty good results.

>

> Hey Duncan - never mind my direct email, I forgot your reply was on the

> list...

>

> Now - just one question about the above...

>

> Either you meant 'the other TWO', or you left one amino acid out... I'm

> assuming you meant two, because you initially said the top FOUR...

>

> Thanks for this - I'll be starting my wife on it this week...

>

[Guest guest]

On 2011-03-23 8:01 PM, Duncan Crow wrote:

> Sorry I missed one HGH increaser indeed; there are five top

> secretagogues. Ornithine, which is closely related to arginine, should

> be in a good blend. I think synergy is the reason the entire dose in six

> capsules, including the branched-chain amino acids, was only about 5.3

> grams but maxed out HGH release anyway.

Wow, thanks, I'm glad I asked...

One follow-up - how much of the ornithine? 1g? 1.5g? Other?

Many many thanks for this... will be able to save a *lot* as compared to

the Somalife, I just hope it works reasonably well.

Oh - *if* I can convince her to start on the Somalife later, would it be

safe and/or provide extra benefit to continue using the 5 amino blend at

the same time? Or should she stop the separate blend while taking the

Somalife?

[Guest guest]

A " success range " of HGH increasing amino acids was protected by the SomaLife

patent. A copy of the patent is posted on my HGH therapy page:

http://tinyurl.com/SomaLife-gHP

Bet you won't be able to save much; it's been tried, and doctors who did copy

the formula failed to get the necessary effect of 30 ng/ml HGH increase that

promotes growth. Turns out the other formulators are closer to correct that

10-20 grams will be the dose using their methods and purity.

What you'd do is take up to 3 separate doses daily in addition to your workout,

which would provide a fourth HGH burst. Because you get diminishing returns on

higher doses, splitting the doses is better than taking them at once.

all good,

Duncan

>> Wow, thanks, I'm glad I asked...

>

> One follow-up - how much of the ornithine? 1g? 1.5g? Other?

>

> Many many thanks for this... will be able to save a *lot* as compared to

> the Somalife, I just hope it works reasonably well.

>

> Oh - *if* I can convince her to start on the Somalife later, would it be

> safe and/or provide extra benefit to continue using the 5 amino blend at

> the same time? Or should she stop the separate blend while taking the

> Somalife?

>

[Guest guest]

On 3/24/2011 4:49 PM, Duncan Crow wrote:

> A " success range " of HGH increasing amino acids was protected by the

> SomaLife patent. A copy of the patent is posted on my HGH therapy page:

> http://tinyurl.com/SomaLife-gHP

One last question and I'll quit bothering you about this stuff...

My wife hates taking pills... there's no reason she can't empty the

capsules into water, mix well and drink it is there? I can't think of

any reason it would not work as well - it even seems it would work

better - but I just want to make sure...

[Guest guest]

SomaLife gHP doesn't dissolve in water. That is one of the specific purity tests

SomaLife used. It's not the amino acids in competitor's products, but

semi-digested meat proteins, additives and vitamins that dissolve or color the

water. Amino acids dissolve in an acidic solution OK; my wife stirs SomaLife gHP

into Orange juice and lets it sit for a couple or three minutes, then stirs it

in.

all good,

Duncan

>

>

> My wife hates taking pills... there's no reason she can't empty the

> capsules into water, mix well and drink it is there?