Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Hi (D) - I'm assuming there's more than one ? I'm so sad to hear that you have extra symptoms. And that your son is having trouble as well. My daughter and I shared two things - B27 and a disease called hydrotynitis superativa (not even the docs can agree on the spelling of that one! :-)). I got the arthritis more and she got the HS in worse form. She really suffered for many years and had been on SSD since the age of 20. She was a great kid and stayed as active as possible. She had undergone treatment in an experimental radiation program a few years ago. Most likely the after affects of that, plus a lot of meds caused her premature death a year ago July. She was 26. Thankfully she just went to sleep. So - I know how it is to have a child who's affected as well. My heart goes out to both of you. You're right - docs are usually clueless. And certainly one reason is a lack of research. I also think - and try to remember when I'm dealing with them - they have to be so frustrated. It is their JOB to fix things. We're at the moment anyway, unfixable. I'm sure there's a frustration there that we don't understand any more than they understand ours. :-) And then they're under the current pressure to not over prescribe. For obvious reasons. But as with all good " rules " comes the backfire that the folks who need help have the hardest time getting it huh? Thanks for your response and encouragement! Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 Pat, I just got a bunch of old messages pop up on my screen. First time I am seeing them. Yes, there are several 's on here. I don't know if you were talking to me, but I do have a 24 year old son with AS. And I have Reiter's and a whole glob of ills. Anyway, I am so sorry for you losing your daughter at such a young age. My son is able to work, but drops on the couch when he gets home. He calls me when he is really hurting, I know he hates to take his meds, but I tell him if he takes them it might go into remission. Pray. I am on SSI/SSD. I was told by my case worker this week it is time to go into Assisted Living care. I am not real happy with having to move, and into a studio apt. at that. So I will have to get rid of half of my things. I am not in the mood to even look for a place until after the holidays. I have a kidney infection now, and my bladder is involved too. Trying not to have to go in the hospital again. I got a nice staph infection about 7 years ago in the hospital. So, I fight as hard as I can at home. And no, the drs don't seem to know what to do with the Spondys. They just guess and give more pills. I did have out patient surgery on my jaw this year, because the bone grew over the artery that goes to my eye. It helped about 3 weeks, and it is back like it was again already. I do not have the B27, but my son does. When I was born my mom said the drs and nurses said she would have a lot of health problems to deal with, because my skin was like cellephane. you could see thru it. I just had bad allergies when I was young, but then when I was about 4 I started having bad leg and arm aches. I would get a low grade fever, and just feel terrible. Mom thought it was the allergies acting up. But now I think is was the Spondy's starting up, since I have had one thing or another acting up since then. And when I had my first baby, it was like flipping a switch and turning on all the auto immune disorders. Now after having been pregnant 8 times, 4 live births, the docs have found out that the hormone change of pregnancy keeps making it worse. Now they tell me, I had a hysterectomy in ' 93. Well, they are slow at learning these things. I just hope my son will not have the AS active for his whole life. Good luck to you, and thank you for writing. My computer sucks, it is as bad as I am,LOL! Take care, God bless you. D. in Oregon RE: Re: Pat Hi (D) - I'm assuming there's more than one ? I'm so sad to hear that you have extra symptoms. And that your son is having trouble as well. My daughter and I shared two things - B27 and a disease called hydrotynitis superativa (not even the docs can agree on the spelling of that one! :-)). I got the arthritis more and she got the HS in worse form. She really suffered for many years and had been on SSD since the age of 20. She was a great kid and stayed as active as possible. She had undergone treatment in an experimental radiation program a few years ago. Most likely the after affects of that, plus a lot of meds caused her premature death a year ago July. She was 26. Thankfully she just went to sleep. So - I know how it is to have a child who's affected as well. My heart goes out to both of you. You're right - docs are usually clueless. And certainly one reason is a lack of research. I also think - and try to remember when I'm dealing with them - they have to be so frustrated. It is their JOB to fix things. We're at the moment anyway, unfixable. I'm sure there's a frustration there that we don't understand any more than they understand ours. :-) And then they're under the current pressure to not over prescribe. For obvious reasons. But as with all good " rules " comes the backfire that the folks who need help have the hardest time getting it huh? Thanks for your response and encouragement! Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Thanks Pat! Skeeter has congestive heart failure and diabetes. He's home and is doing OK. He has to used his oxygen all the time now. Love, Liz----- Re: 3/1 Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 01:14:22 -0500 Hi Liz, That's great for you, and I am so glad that your brother is coming, or, may be coming, home from the hospital soon. What is wrong with him? Love always, Pat ____________________________________________________________ Refinance Rates at 2.8% $160,000 Mortgage $659/mo. No Hidden Points/Fees. 3.1% apr. Get Quote! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d74578ebb849a9606st02duc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Hi Liz, Thanks for telling me about Skeeter, and please do tell him (and be assured yourself) that I am praying for him!! I wish that Skeeter would do some good aerobic breathing and yoga pranayma for the rest of his live on a daily basis, if he possibly could. I know that Alternate Nostril Breathing is a wonderful treatment and wonderful potential cure for diabetes, but am not sure if a person who has congestive heart disease should do it. I would advise you to speak to Skeeter's doctor about the possibility of Skeeter's doing aerobic breathing and pranyma, most especially Alternate Nostril Breathing, but I know better than that, as I know that practitioners of allopathic medicine are very heavily into drugs, which are, for the most part, toxic, but, anyway... Please do tell Skeeter that I am praying for him, and, as I said, I want you to be assured that I AM actually praying for him!!! Have a great week, my dear friend!!! Love always, Pat On 3/6/2011 10:56 PM, lizkins9@... wrote: > > Thanks Pat! > Skeeter has congestive heart failure and diabetes. He's home and is > doing OK. He has to used his oxygen all the time now. Love, > Liz----- Re: 3/1 > Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 01:14:22 -0500 > > Hi Liz, > > That's great for you, and I am so glad that your brother is coming, or, > may be coming, home from the hospital soon. What is wrong with him? > > Love always, > Pat > > > __________________________________________________________ > Refinance Rates at 2.8% > $160,000 Mortgage $659/mo. No Hidden Points/Fees. 3.1% apr. Get Quote! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d74578ebb849a9606st02duc > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 I was wandering could someone give me advice, I am getting a hip replacement and I just dont know what to do, my Dr mention having an epidural in my back to block pain for surgery or if I wanted I could be put to sleep, I dont know which way to go any advice would be appreciable, thank you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Count me in as another " I'll sleep through this, thankyouverymuch' vote. In a message dated 6/8/2011 7:48:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, zinsdad@... writes: You're going to get plenty of opinions here both ways. Some prefer one method, some the other and usually passionately on both sides. I prefer to go to sleep and wake up when it's all over. But that doesn't make that the right choice for anyone else. Big help, right? good luck, Jeff From: Goldie <starwatch1900@...> Joint Replacement Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 9:24 PM Subject: PAT I was wandering could someone give me advice, I am getting a hip replacement and I just dont know what to do, my Dr mention having an epidural in my back to block pain for surgery or if I wanted I could be put to sleep, I dont know which way to go any advice would be appreciable, thank you all. ------------------------------------ Be your own advocate! The best patient is an informed patient! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Be your own advocate! The best patient is an informed patient! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 I was knocked out twice in the past 6 weeks for eye surgery, but no hangover..just the sight sore throat. then again, i wasn' t under all that long. Yeah..when they push the knockout stuff it's lights out instantly. I'm all in favor of that, I can do without the ride to the OR and this last time, chatting with the surgeons there. (Actually MY preference would be to be knocked out at home,a nd wake up back here as well.) In a message dated 6/8/2011 8:30:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nancyr44@... writes: It was via the IV. The second operation was delayed a bit; I was in pre-op and getting a bit anxious so asked if I could go to sleep then. The nurse put something in the IV & I was sleeping in a few second. If you don't have general anesthesia, you will not have a 'hangover " after surgery. ----- Original Message ----- From: <jarcher107@...> > What did the nock you down with? just IV sedation? > > > In a message dated 6/8/2011 8:10:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > nancyr44@... writes: > > I had both hips replaced in 2009. Both times I had an epidural and was > not > awake during the procedure, but did not have the tube down my throat. I > would do it the same way again. > > ------------------------------------ Be your own advocate! The best patient is an informed patient! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 That sounds better. I like my surgeos but rally didn't need to be chatting them up in the OR... In a message dated 6/8/2011 9:55:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rainbowsendminis@... writes: I had my knees done the same way. Epidural but asleep so I did not know what was going on. Pat In Pennsylvania Bilateral TKR August 2010 Re: PAT I had both hips replaced in 2009. Both times I had an epidural and was not awake during the procedure, but did not have the tube down my throat. I would do it the same way again. ----- Original Message ----- From: " Goldie " <starwatch1900@...> >I was wandering could someone give me advice, I am getting a hip >replacement and I just dont know what to do, my Dr mention having an >epidural in my back to block pain for surgery or if I wanted I could be put >to sleep, I dont know which way to go any advice would be appreciable, >thank you all. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Be your own advocate! The best patient is an informed patient! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 I[ve also never had any nausea upon waking, or much " fogginess'..the gases they use any more put you under fast and pull you out fast, though obviously there will be individual differences. I think what annoyed me most after my back surgery was tryign to get the residue off my eyes from their being taped shut. In a message dated 6/8/2011 10:35:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, zinsdad@... writes: , Not all wake up sick as you describe. I've had many surgeries, never woke up sick, never any after effcts of any kind. I also know of problems with epidurals. It's fine to prefer what you prefer, but like I said before most people are very passionate about this subjuect. Take care,/Jeff From: RENEE WEAL <goddessrenee@...> Joint Replacement Surgery Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 9:19 AM Subject: RE: PAT Hands down opt for the epidural. Being put under requires a tube down your throat and is riskier because you aren't breathing on your own. When you are put under completely, you wake up sick and it takes a long time to get rid of the anesthesia out of your system. I had the epidural and felt nothing from the waist down and was put to sleep via the IV. Waking up after surgery there was no sickness and no pain...no pain for two days as they didn't take out the epidural until the following morning. I would ask for this in surgery again in a heartbeat. You're only given a little spark of madness. You mustn't lose it. Joint Replacement From: starwatch1900@... Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 01:24:12 +0000 Subject: PAT I was wandering could someone give me advice, I am getting a hip replacement and I just dont know what to do, my Dr mention having an epidural in my back to block pain for surgery or if I wanted I could be put to sleep, I dont know which way to go any advice would be appreciable, thank you all. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Be your own advocate! The best patient is an informed patient! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Be your own advocate! The best patient is an informed patient! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 You sleep through both options actually. You are not awake when they use an epidural. You're only given a little spark of madness. You mustn't lose it. Joint Replacement From: jarcher107@... Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 08:04:02 -0400 Subject: Re: PAT Count me in as another " I'll sleep through this, thankyouverymuch' vote. In a message dated 6/8/2011 7:48:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, zinsdad@... writes: You're going to get plenty of opinions here both ways. Some prefer one method, some the other and usually passionately on both sides. I prefer to go to sleep and wake up when it's all over. But that doesn't make that the right choice for anyone else. Big help, right? good luck, Jeff From: Goldie <starwatch1900@...> Joint Replacement Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 9:24 PM Subject: PAT I was wandering could someone give me advice, I am getting a hip replacement and I just dont know what to do, my Dr mention having an epidural in my back to block pain for surgery or if I wanted I could be put to sleep, I dont know which way to go any advice would be appreciable, thank you all. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 I had my knees done the same way. Epidural but asleep so I did not know what was going on. Pat In Pennsylvania Bilateral TKR August 2010 Re: PAT I had both hips replaced in 2009. Both times I had an epidural and was not awake during the procedure, but did not have the tube down my throat. I would do it the same way again. ----- Original Message ----- From: " Goldie " <starwatch1900@...> >I was wandering could someone give me advice, I am getting a hip >replacement and I just dont know what to do, my Dr mention having an >epidural in my back to block pain for surgery or if I wanted I could be put >to sleep, I dont know which way to go any advice would be appreciable, >thank you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Amen to that Patty Ann On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:04 AM, jarcher107@... wrote: > Count me in as another " I'll sleep through this, thankyouverymuch' vote. > > > In a message dated 6/8/2011 7:48:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > zinsdad@... writes: > > You're going to get plenty of opinions here both ways. Some prefer one > method, some the other and usually passionately on both sides. > I prefer to go to sleep and wake up when it's all over. But that doesn't > make that the right choice for anyone else. > Big help, right? > good luck, > Jeff > > From: Goldie <starwatch1900@...> > Joint Replacement > Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 9:24 PM > Subject: PAT > > I was wandering could someone give me advice, I am getting a hip > replacement and I just dont know what to do, my Dr mention having an epidural in my > back to block pain for surgery or if I wanted I could be put to sleep, I > dont know which way to go any advice would be appreciable, thank you all. > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 I highly recommend an epidural or spinal block. You will be asleep with other drugs and wake up with no pain until the block or epidural wears off. General anesthesia is harder on your body and takes longer to get out of you system. For me, it was great to wake up without pain and have some time before I had to deal with managing the pain. > > I was wandering could someone give me advice, I am getting a hip replacement and I just dont know what to do, my Dr mention having an epidural in my back to block pain for surgery or if I wanted I could be put to sleep, I dont know which way to go any advice would be appreciable, thank you all. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 In a message dated 6/8/2011 6:55:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rainbowsendminis@... writes: I had my knees done the same way. Epidural but asleep so I did not know what was going on. Why am I always different? During cataract surgery I required two shots to stop eye movement and the DR said the movement was not totally stopped even then. I was awake during TKR and an epidural. I could hear the saw cutting bone and then I could hear the DR pounding something with a hammer. No pain. I was the first surgery in the morning but did not get to my room until supper time. Too late to even sit up like I thought happened the day of surgery. Brickey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Goldie, I have never had an epidural for any type of surgery so cannot give an opinion on it. I HAVE had general anesthesia and have trouble with it but most people do not. My mind plays tricks on me for weeks after having the general anesthesia. No physical fault with it. BARB in Florida PAT I was wandering could someone give me advice, I am getting a hip replacement and I just dont know what to do, my Dr mention having an epidural in my back to block pain for surgery or if I wanted I could be put to sleep, I dont know which way to go any advice would be appreciable, thank you all. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 My guess is it's not you, it was your anesthesiologist, that should have never happened. There is no reason to be awake during surgery like this. Please tell me you are interviewing other doctors for your hip replacement! You're only given a little spark of madness. You mustn't lose it. Joint Replacement From: Skippyfj@... Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 13:28:54 -0400 Subject: Re: PAT In a message dated 6/8/2011 6:55:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rainbowsendminis@... writes: I had my knees done the same way. Epidural but asleep so I did not know what was going on. Why am I always different? During cataract surgery I required two shots to stop eye movement and the DR said the movement was not totally stopped even then. I was awake during TKR and an epidural. I could hear the saw cutting bone and then I could hear the DR pounding something with a hammer. No pain. I was the first surgery in the morning but did not get to my room until supper time. Too late to even sit up like I thought happened the day of surgery. Brickey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 I think it depends on your sensitivity. Just a couple years ago I had surgery before this hip replacement and I was extremely sick after surgery. They can include meds for nausea in the IV, but they didn't for me on that other surgery. With my epidural I warned them ahead of time even if it wasn't a risk and they gave me the meds. I had no nausea or side effects whatsoever with the epidural thankfully. You're only given a little spark of madness. You mustn't lose it. Joint Replacement From: jarcher107@... Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 12:01:48 -0400 Subject: Re: PAT I[ve also never had any nausea upon waking, or much " fogginess'..the gases they use any more put you under fast and pull you out fast, though obviously there will be individual differences. I think what annoyed me most after my back surgery was tryign to get the residue off my eyes from their being taped shut. In a message dated 6/8/2011 10:35:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, zinsdad@... writes: , Not all wake up sick as you describe. I've had many surgeries, never woke up sick, never any after effcts of any kind. I also know of problems with epidurals. It's fine to prefer what you prefer, but like I said before most people are very passionate about this subjuect. Take care,/Jeff From: RENEE WEAL <goddessrenee@...> Joint Replacement Surgery Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 9:19 AM Subject: RE: PAT Hands down opt for the epidural. Being put under requires a tube down your throat and is riskier because you aren't breathing on your own. When you are put under completely, you wake up sick and it takes a long time to get rid of the anesthesia out of your system. I had the epidural and felt nothing from the waist down and was put to sleep via the IV. Waking up after surgery there was no sickness and no pain...no pain for two days as they didn't take out the epidural until the following morning. I would ask for this in surgery again in a heartbeat. You're only given a little spark of madness. You mustn't lose it. Joint Replacement From: starwatch1900@... Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 01:24:12 +0000 Subject: PAT I was wandering could someone give me advice, I am getting a hip replacement and I just dont know what to do, my Dr mention having an epidural in my back to block pain for surgery or if I wanted I could be put to sleep, I dont know which way to go any advice would be appreciable, thank you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 My dermatologist said that her father-in-law had an epidural for his hip replacement and was awake during the surgery. But this happened in India. I think hearing all those noises would put my blood pressure through the roof. BARB in Florida Re: PAT In a message dated 6/8/2011 6:55:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rainbowsendminis@... writes: I had my knees done the same way. Epidural but asleep so I did not know what was going on. Why am I always different? During cataract surgery I required two shots to stop eye movement and the DR said the movement was not totally stopped even then. I was awake during TKR and an epidural. I could hear the saw cutting bone and then I could hear the DR pounding something with a hammer. No pain. I was the first surgery in the morning but did not get to my room until supper time. Too late to even sit up like I thought happened the day of surgery. Brickey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Goldie... I am having my THR surgery this coming Wednesday, and I am having them put me to sleep. I have never had an epidural, even with my 4 children and am not going to start now. I thought you were having your surgery a couple of weeks ago. When do you have your surgery? Good luck and I will keep you in my prayers... Vicki > > > > I was wandering could someone give me advice, I am getting a hip replacement and I just dont know what to do, my Dr mention having an epidural in my back to block pain for surgery or if I wanted I could be put to sleep, I dont know which way to go any advice would be appreciable, thank you all. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 In general, either an epidural or spinal is preferable because general can be riskier. Most doctors do prefer epidural or spinal to general if that is an option because of the lowered risks. You can tell the doctor you want to be completely oblivious during the operation and they will add something to your IV line. It is timed perfectly as my last memory is of being moved to the actual table and then waking up in the OR just before being moved to the recovery room. You will feel that you were " put to sleep " without the risks of the general. I had a spinal as the anesthesiologist explained that my hip replacement would be completely within a finite period of time. With an epidural it is possible to continue to give medication as the " tube " is kept in place. In my experience pain management is very well handled with hip replacements. The pain after surgery was NOTHING like the pain after surgery. After surgery it was more discomfort than pain. On Jun 8, 2011, at 8:40 AM, Diva wrote: > I highly recommend an epidural or spinal block. You will be asleep with other drugs and wake up with no pain until the block or epidural wears off. General anesthesia is harder on your body and takes longer to get out of you system. For me, it was great to wake up without pain and have some time before I had to deal with managing the pain. > > > > > > I was wandering could someone give me advice, I am getting a hip replacement and I just dont know what to do, my Dr mention having an epidural in my back to block pain for surgery or if I wanted I could be put to sleep, I dont know which way to go any advice would be appreciable, thank you all. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 I had exactly the same experience! On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:35 AM, <jujulabee@...> wrote: > In general, either an epidural or spinal is preferable because general can > be riskier. Most doctors do prefer epidural or spinal to general if that is > an option because of the lowered risks. > > You can tell the doctor you want to be completely oblivious during the > operation and they will add something to your IV line. It is timed perfectly > as my last memory is of being moved to the actual table and then waking up > in the OR just before being moved to the recovery room. You will feel that > you were " put to sleep " without the risks of the general. > > I had a spinal as the anesthesiologist explained that my hip replacement > would be completely within a finite period of time. With an epidural it is > possible to continue to give medication as the " tube " is kept in place. > > In my experience pain management is very well handled with hip > replacements. The pain after surgery was NOTHING like the pain after > surgery. After surgery it was more discomfort than pain. > > > On Jun 8, 2011, at 8:40 AM, Diva wrote: > > > I highly recommend an epidural or spinal block. You will be asleep with > other drugs and wake up with no pain until the block or epidural wears off. > General anesthesia is harder on your body and takes longer to get out of you > system. For me, it was great to wake up without pain and have some time > before I had to deal with managing the pain. > > > > > > > > > > I was wandering could someone give me advice, I am getting a hip > replacement and I just dont know what to do, my Dr mention having an > epidural in my back to block pain for surgery or if I wanted I could be put > to sleep, I dont know which way to go any advice would be appreciable, thank > you all. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 I'd hazard a guess they use Versed, which is used for " twilight sleep " but which can be upped a bit for " Forget that'twilight' part " ...being an " eye wuss " I had them do this for my cataract surgeries, and my only after effect was a sore throat from the trach tube. You go under instantly and pop awake about as fast. (My eye surgeon was teasing me afterwards about my wussiness, and I told him " Hey, I just came from having a needle THIS long stuck all the way into my hip joint! " and he looked as if he were about to faint. We all have our issues.) " Oblivious " sounds good to me, If I wanted to be awake for a hip replacement, I'd have gone to medical school, not law. I do sort of amuse myself though: why is it almost all of us worry about " the PAIN! " of post op while living with serious pain 24/7/365 anyway? As you say, at least this was the case with my back surgery, I woke up in far less pain than I had going in, and it stayed that way. Sure, there was some pain involved, though more stiffness, but it was just being " uncomfortable " and with the drugs I was on the first couple days, it was pretty much a case of " Yes, I kind of hurt, but I really don't CARE. " That said, I " m at a point where the second injection into my totally-shot-anyway right hip did very little, but I'm still stalling because..here is an unusual problem..I need to find someone who can move in for a couple days and handle 33 large parrots, most with medical issues. And since I live on an island on the South Carolina coast, I also have to keep one eye on the tropics this time of h year. So...physical therapy continues until my insurance company says " no mas " , then they offer a self-directed plan, which basically provides access to all the machines for $35 a month. That, and working with my pain management doctor, who is a jewel, until I can find a way to get the flock cared for while I " m in the hospital...the surgeon, when I talked to him oops..almost three years ago, says " Two nights " in the hospital and didn't seem too interested in bargaining that down to one, and that was before I mentioned living alone, in a three story house. Ah well, just kind of venting to folks who are familiar with at least some of this..well most of it other than the parrot part...since all my friends are younger, and I don't think any of them understand HOW bad bone on bone hip pain is, or who constant..even when trying to sleep...so I spare them this stuff. Judith (in SC, not France) Re: Re: PAT In general, either an epidural or spinal is preferable because general can be riskier. Most doctors do prefer epidural or spinal to general if that is an option because of the lowered risks. You can tell the doctor you want to be completely oblivious during the operation and they will add something to your IV line. It is timed perfectly as my last memory is of being moved to the actual table and then waking up in the OR just before being moved to the recovery room. You will feel that you were " put to sleep " without the risks of the general. I had a spinal as the anesthesiologist explained that my hip replacement would be completely within a finite period of time. With an epidural it is possible to continue to give medication as the " tube " is kept in place. In my experience pain management is very well handled with hip replacements. The pain after surgery was NOTHING like the pain after surgery. After surgery it was more discomfort than pain. On Jun 8, 2011, at 8:40 AM, Diva wrote: > I highly recommend an epidural or spinal block. You will be asleep with other drugs and wake up with no pain until the block or epidural wears off. General anesthesia is harder on your body and takes longer to get out of you system. For me, it was great to wake up without pain and have some time before I had to deal with managing the pain. > > > > > > I was wandering could someone give me advice, I am getting a hip replacement and I just dont know what to do, my Dr mention having an epidural in my back to block pain for surgery or if I wanted I could be put to sleep, I dont know which way to go any advice would be appreciable, thank you all. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 You might an interesting - and true - observation about hip replacement. Almost always, the pain prior to surgery is far far worse than the pain we put up with prior to surgery. And yet despite being told this we still don't believe it. I guess it just seems so strange that they can cut you open; saw off a joint; replace it with something else - and the next day you wake up walking with less pain than prior to surgery. Looking back - it truly was discomfort - I didn't like having the dressing on; I didn't feel comfortable in the shower for a while because I wasn't supposed to get the dressing wet - or the incision until my stitches fell out. I did heal beautifully and relatively quickly with no infection so I guess my lack of cleanliness was better than getting the incision wet LOL. I think hip surgery is the easiest of all of the replacement surgeries. I had the anterior approach so no muscles were cut. I was a little weak in the leg for about a week or so but the only problem was scooting into bed because I didn't have great " control " over the leg. On Jul 19, 2011, at 9:16 AM, jarcher107@... wrote: > I'd hazard a guess they use Versed, which is used for " twilight sleep " but which can be upped a bit for " Forget that'twilight' part " ...being an " eye wuss " I had them do this for my cataract surgeries, and my only after effect was a sore throat from the trach tube. You go under instantly and pop awake about as fast. (My eye surgeon was teasing me afterwards about my wussiness, and I told him " Hey, I just came from having a needle THIS long stuck all the way into my hip joint! " and he looked as if he were about to faint. We all have our issues.) > > " Oblivious " sounds good to me, If I wanted to be awake for a hip replacement, I'd have gone to medical school, not law. > > I do sort of amuse myself though: why is it almost all of us worry about " the PAIN! " of post op while living with serious pain 24/7/365 anyway? As you say, at least this was the case with my back surgery, I woke up in far less pain than I had going in, and it stayed that way. Sure, there was some pain involved, though more stiffness, but it was just being " uncomfortable " and with the drugs I was on the first couple days, it was pretty much a case of " Yes, I kind of hurt, but I really don't CARE. " > > That said, I " m at a point where the second injection into my totally-shot-anyway right hip did very little, but I'm still stalling because..here is an unusual problem..I need to find someone who can move in for a couple days and handle 33 large parrots, most with medical issues. > And since I live on an island on the South Carolina coast, I also have to keep one eye on the tropics this time of h year. > > So...physical therapy continues until my insurance company says " no mas " , then they offer a self-directed plan, which basically provides access to all the machines for $35 a month. That, and working with my pain management doctor, who is a jewel, until I can find a way to get the flock cared for while I " m in the hospital...the surgeon, when I talked to him oops..almost three years ago, says " Two nights " in the hospital and didn't seem too interested in bargaining that down to one, and that was before I mentioned living alone, in a three story house. > > Ah well, just kind of venting to folks who are familiar with at least some of this..well most of it other than the parrot part...since all my friends are younger, and I don't think any of them understand HOW bad bone on bone hip pain is, or who constant..even when trying to sleep...so I spare them this stuff. > > Judith (in SC, not France) > > Re: Re: PAT > > In general, either an epidural or spinal is preferable because general can be > riskier. Most doctors do prefer epidural or spinal to general if that is an > option because of the lowered risks. > > You can tell the doctor you want to be completely oblivious during the operation > and they will add something to your IV line. It is timed perfectly as my last > memory is of being moved to the actual table and then waking up in the OR just > before being moved to the recovery room. You will feel that you were " put to > sleep " without the risks of the general. > > I had a spinal as the anesthesiologist explained that my hip replacement would > be completely within a finite period of time. With an epidural it is possible to > continue to give medication as the " tube " is kept in place. > > In my experience pain management is very well handled with hip replacements. The > pain after surgery was NOTHING like the pain after surgery. After surgery it was > more discomfort than pain. > > On Jun 8, 2011, at 8:40 AM, Diva wrote: > > > I highly recommend an epidural or spinal block. You will be asleep with other > drugs and wake up with no pain until the block or epidural wears off. General > anesthesia is harder on your body and takes longer to get out of you system. For > me, it was great to wake up without pain and have some time before I had to deal > with managing the pain. > > > > > > > > > > I was wandering could someone give me advice, I am getting a hip replacement > and I just dont know what to do, my Dr mention having an epidural in my back to > block pain for surgery or if I wanted I could be put to sleep, I dont know which > way to go any advice would be appreciable, thank you all. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Vicki, I didn't have an epidural for my children either, but I had one for another procedure back in 1998, and from that I got encephalitis, so for me the general anesthetic is the way to go... every one is different their surgeon and anesthetist, so what's good for one may not necessarily be so for another, General anesthetics have come a long long way, I neither wake up sick nor fogged brained. People should be guided by their medical team who know your past and present history. -- Re: PAT Goldie... I am having my THR surgery this coming Wednesday, and I am having them put me to sleep. I have never had an epidural, even with my 4 children and am not going to start now. I thought you were having your surgery a couple of weeks ago. When do you have your surgery? Good luck and I will keep you in my prayers... Vicki > > > > I was wandering could someone give me advice, I am getting a hip replacement and I just dont know what to do, my Dr mention having an epidural in my back to block pain for surgery or if I wanted I could be put to sleep, I dont know which way to go any advice would be appreciable, thank you all. > > > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 That's terrific Pat!!! It's so great to be seeing and feeling results! I forgot to tell you that my mom and brother are doing OK! Hugs!Liz ----- Re: R-Happy, Happy Birthday to you. Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 14:35:02 -0500 Hi , You're so very welcome!! And please know that you and your family will always have my prayers, thoughts and best wishes!! _Thank you so much for your cheer leading words regarding my weight loss success!! Guess what!! I am fitting into clothes that I used to wear years ago but which had just been hanging in my closet and lying in my chest of drawers for years because I was just too fat and ungainly to get into. I was not even able to put the one piece tops over my head let alone get them down over my fat belly. And now, well, wow!!! So, thanks a lot for your short sentence about my weight loss of 17+ pounds and please do pray that it will continue in the manner that it has been going. I will make every attempt to see that it does!! Pretty soon I will have to buy a few size M pants, as my size XL and XXL will be dragging on the floor and will be tripping me up as I walk!! WOW!!!_ Love always, Pat ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f558995335e9221b419st01duc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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