Re: Comparison of coconut oil with flax seed oil

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Greg 's Oils Analysis posted in my coconut oil references compares coconut

oil and several other food oils including flax seed oil with regard to fatty

acids composition:

http://tinyurl.com/oil-references

all good,

Duncan

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Flax seed oil is loaded with estrogen - don't go near it.

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So would that make flax oil a proper part of a post-menopause hormone

replacement therapy?

Any oils loaded with testosterone or its pre-cursors?

-richard, l.m.t.-

 

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, for testosterone, I think MACA and deer antler velvet may be the top

two. I'd choose therootofthematter.com extracted MACA gel.

I favour HGH increasers and pregnenolone for anti-aging because it seems people

don't have a problem making hormones if their HGH levels are mantained so as to

be youthful, and the hormonal building block pregnenolone is adequate.

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Say what??! So then, my husband shouldn't be taking it every day?? LOL

Judy

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Hi Judy

I can only give my OPINION on what I've researched over the last few years.

No he really shouldn't be taking Flax oil - Not if you don't want him turning

into a big girly.

Not unless you want your husband to go bald, develop erectile dysfunction,

cancer, prostate problems and man boobs - If he's not like that now, with a

high enough daily dose of estrogen its only a matter of time.....

Flax seed oil along with soy and any other high estrogen foods should be avoided

at all cost and that goes for women as well as men. The last thing you need to

do is take them regularly every day. Its one of the worst things you can do for

your health.

You are on this forum so you know how wrong the commonly excepted truths about

fats are - well its pretty much the same with the common understanding of

hormones particularly estrogen. Your husband would be far getter off taking

coconut oil, Maca and progesterone cream.

Lots has been written about phytoestrogens and I haven't got time to go into it

all now but look up " Dr Wong " on Google.

All the best

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Is there a list somewhere of phytoandrogens?...

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Thanks, Chris....back to more studying, I guess. I will check out Doctor

Wong, then. My husbands cardiologist told him it was just great that he was

taking flax for the Omega 3's. Guess they don't have enough time to check

out alternative things, and/or just don't believe that foods can really help

us heal.

I must say, I've learned more after 40 than I learned in all the years

before...that is for sure.

Judy

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> I can only give my OPINION on what I've researched over the last few years.

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> No he really shouldn't be taking Flax oil - Not if you don't want him

> turning into a big girly.

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> Not unless you want your husband to go bald, develop erectile dysfunction,

> cancer, prostate problems and man boobs - If he's not like that now, with a

> high enough daily dose of estrogen its only a matter of time.....

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> Flax seed oil along with soy and any other high estrogen foods should be

> avoided at all cost and that goes for women as well as men. The last thing

> you need to do is take them regularly every day. Its one of the worst things

> you can do for your health.

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> You are on this forum so you know how wrong the commonly excepted truths

> about fats are - well its pretty much the same with the common understanding

> of hormones particularly estrogen. Your husband would be far getter off

> taking coconut oil, Maca and progesterone cream.

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> Lots has been written about phytoestrogens and I haven't got time to go

> into it all now but look up " Dr Wong " on Google.

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> All the best

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> Chris

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Curious Duncan, I've been taking pregnenolone for over a year, how much

pregnenolone do you take daily?

Blessings, Margaret

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Interesting thread on Flax seed oils and related topics. This is timely as I

just read on About.com that flax seeds are not good for the thyroid. They put

them in the same catagory as cruciferous vegtables. I have been taking it 3-4

times a week sprinkled on cereal. I will cut it out and see what I notice.

Thanks.

jjc

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> > I can only give my OPINION on what I've researched over the last few years.

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> > No he really shouldn't be taking Flax oil - Not if you don't want him

> > turning into a big girly.

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> > Not unless you want your husband to go bald, develop erectile dysfunction,

> > cancer, prostate problems and man boobs - If he's not like that now, with a

> > high enough daily dose of estrogen its only a matter of time.....

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> > Flax seed oil along with soy and any other high estrogen foods should be

> > avoided at all cost and that goes for women as well as men. The last thing

> > you need to do is take them regularly every day. Its one of the worst things

> > you can do for your health.

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> > You are on this forum so you know how wrong the commonly excepted truths

> > about fats are - well its pretty much the same with the common understanding

> > of hormones particularly estrogen. Your husband would be far getter off

> > taking coconut oil, Maca and progesterone cream.

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> > Lots has been written about phytoestrogens and I haven't got time to go

> > into it all now but look up " Dr Wong " on Google.

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> > All the best

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> > Chris

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Duncan,

How safe are these hormones like pregnenolone and progesterone?

Thanks,

jjc

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> > So would that make flax oil a proper part of a post-menopause hormone

replacement therapy?

> > Any oils loaded with testosterone or its pre-cursors?

> > -richard, l.m.t.-

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I personally think that flax seed is exceptionally beneficial for the high

amount of lignans they contain. A listing of scientific studies pertaining to

flax lignans can be found at:

http://www.aidshivawareness.org/download/Flax_Hull_Lignan_2006_Study.pdf

Flax Hull Lignan Study Results

2003 - 2006

It is more than worth your time to read it. Relative to phytoestrogens, there

are two major types of phytoestrogens: isoflavones and lignans. Lignans are the

pytoestrogens found in the fiber portion of flaxseed. It is the isoflavones that

can be problematic and not the lignans.

- Steve

Some extracts from the link above:

Flaxseed ingestion produces large amounts of mammalian lignans with weak

estrogenic/anti-estrogenic

properties reduced adult relative prostate weight and cell proliferation,

suggesting potential protection against

prostatic disease, without affecting sex hormone levels. (Tou J, et al, J

Toxicol Environ Health, 56(8): 555, 1999)

Flax seed is the richest source of omega-3 fatty acid and lignans. Omega-3 Fatty

acid suppresses the production of

interleukin-1 (IL-1), tumor necrosis factor (TNF) and leukotriene B4 (LTB4), and

of OFRs by polymorphonuclear

leukocytes (PMNLs) and monocytes. Lignans possess anti-platelet activating

factor (PAF) activity and are

antioxidant. PAF, IL-1, TNF and LTB4 are known to stimulate PMNLs to produce

OFRs. Flaxseed would, therefore,

reduce the levels of OFRs and hence would prevent the development of

hypercholesterolemic atherosclerosis. In

rabbits, flax seed reduced the development of aortic atherosclerosis by 46% and

reduced the PMNL-CL without

significantly lowering the serum cholesterol. Flax seed in normocholesterolemic

rabbits increased serum total cholesterol

and decreased PMNL-CL without significantly affecting the serum TG. Modest

dietary flax seed supplementation is

effective in reducing hypercholesterolemic atherosclerosis markedly without

lowering serum cholesterol. Its

effectiveness against hypercholesterolemic atherosclerosis could be due to

suppression of enhanced production of OFRs

by PMNLs in hypercholesterolemia. Dietary flax seed supplementation could,

therefore, prevent

hypercholesterolemia-related heart attack and strokes. (Ogborn M, et al, Kidney

Int 55(2): 417, 1999)

Nutritional profile of whole flaxseeds

Two (2) tablespoons provide the following naturally occurring fatty acids,

lignin fiber and lignan:

Alpha Linolenic Acid (Omega-3) ........................1,710 mg

Linoleic Acid (Omega-6) ....................................480 mg

Oleic Acid (Omega-9) ........................................540 mg

Lignin Fiber ......................................................1,003 mg

Lignan ..............................................................13.6 mg

Nutrients per 100 gr of flax: Thiamin - .03 mg; Riboflavin - .1 mg; Niacin - 5

mg; Pyridoxine - 10 mg;

Pantothenic Acid - 7 mg; Calcium - 410 mg; Phosphate - 880 mg; Sodium - 32 mg;

Potassium - 880

mg; Iron - 8.3 mg; Magnesium - 750 mg; Zinc - 12 mg; Copper - 1 mg; Manganese -

2.1 mg; Boron 3

mg; Chromium - 0.5 mg; Vitamin E - 0.6 I.U.; Vitamin A - 10 I.U. Protein:

Alamine - 4.0 g; Arginine -

10.8 g; Aspartic Acid - 10.0 g; Cystine - 3.8 g; Glutamic - 20.2 g; Glycine -

6.0 g; Histidine - 2.9 g;

Isoleucine - 4.6 g; Leucine - 6.2 g; Lysine - 3.9 g; Methionine - 2.3 g;

Phenylalanine - 4.5 g; Proline -

4.5 g; Serine - 3.2 g; Threonine - 4.6 g; Tryptophan - 2.3 g; Tyrosine - 2.7 g;

Valine - 5.2 g.