Guest guest Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 NOW makes different grades of whey. Weight lftters use a lot of why and they can get by with the less expensive grades. Locally, I can only find the cheaper grades of whey. For the good stuff, I need to shop on-line. The good stuff is NOW Whey Protein Isolate. Cheapest way to buy is in 10 pound bags. Smaller packages have more different flavors, but cost per pound is higher. I blend half vanilla and half plain to keep the carbs lower than all vanilla. http://www.vitaglo.com/2177.html When I make up the whey I add far less water than the package tells me to, add 2 ounces of heavy cream, and a heaping tsp of inulin fiber. When I drink the whey I have a small glass of a mixture of coconut oil, Carlson Fish oil http://www.vitaglo.com/carl1541.html and Carlson Ddrops http://www.vitaglo.com/carl1920.html I sip the oil mixture along with the whey and squish them around together before swallowing. On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:23 PM, na <tlhough@...> wrote: > I plan to order the NOW brand of whey protein, but am confused about > 'denatured'. Is the organic denatured? It does not say it is. Is it better > to get the non-organic that states denatured? > > Also do you all take your coconut oil with the whey? I am still struggling > to get enough coconut oil into me. I need a few more varied ways of taking > it so as not to get burned out. Thank you all, artielle > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Hi artiele: I have tried many brands now and am now back to Now Brand. It is inexpensive and seems to have all of the goods. I take it in my morning coffee with lots of heavy cream (hard to beat). Plus I make up all kinds of frozen fruit smoothies that include frozen watermelon, cantalope (sans bacteria), raw eggs, cream, berries, peaches, and a little banana. The stuff is just great!!! Thank you Duncan. Regards, Jim I plan to order the NOW brand of whey protein, but am confused about 'denatured'. Is the organic denatured? It does not say it is. Is it better to get the non-organic that states denatured? Also do you all take your coconut oil with the whey? I am still struggling to get enough coconut oil into me. I need a few more varied ways of taking it so as not to get burned out. Thank you all, artielle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Now whey is likely not undenatured whey. It isn't even advertised as undenatured. I wouldn't use it as glutathione precursor -- but as meal replacement or muscle builder yes. elaine > > I plan to order the NOW brand of whey protein, but am confused about 'denatured'. Is the organic denatured? It does not say it is. Is it better to get the non-organic that states denatured? > > Also do you all take your coconut oil with the whey? I am still struggling to get enough coconut oil into me. I need a few more varied ways of taking it so as not to get burned out. Thank you all, artielle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Elaine, Now Foods had listed the exact undenatured proteins on the label: serum albumin, alpha-lactalbumin, lactoferrin, and beta-lactoglobulin. These undenatured proteins can be carefully scavenged even from milk that was flash-pasteurised and if they are listed, they are present in the bottle. all good, Duncan > > > Now whey is likely not undenatured whey. It isn't even advertised as undenatured. > I wouldn't use it as glutathione precursor -- but as meal replacement or muscle builder yes. > > > elaine > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Duncan, don't you think it is ironic the Now doesn't tout their whey as undenatured? For this whey http://www.nowfoods.com/Products/ProductsbyCategory/Category/M092309.htm?cat=Spo\ rts%20Nutrition & cat2=Protein%20Powders I cannot find the exact serum albumin, alpha-lactalbumin, lactoferrin, and beta-lactoglobulin amounts. This is how Now describes their manufacturing process for their unflavored whey isolate: Processing: Partial predigestion, enzyme hydrolysis, precipitation, ultra filtration, crossflow microfiltration to remove lactose, ash and fat, and high speed air drying at low temperatures to avoid denaturing the protein components. Standard USDA cows not specified as Antibiotic/Hormone free. I am not fond of the partial predigestion and enzyme hydrolysis. And it is hard for me to believe that high quality undenatured whey will be found for roughly $8/pound shipping included, when buying a 10 lb. bag. I am not trying to argue or be difficult but I will never buy their whey again with hopes its increasing my glutathione. Three things I can attribute to Now's whey: musculature increased, extended periods of satiety, and extreme thirst when using it. This is serious business - I can see my musculature change with the use of whey, but I have no proof of how it affects my body's production of glutathione. We need to be more circumspect in the whey we choose and its going to be pricey for sure. I will look into finding Kaizen in the USA - thanks for the link. elaine > > > > > > Now whey is likely not undenatured whey. It isn't even advertised as undenatured. > > I wouldn't use it as glutathione precursor -- but as meal replacement or muscle builder yes. > > > > > > elaine > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Elaine, the language " high speed air drying at low temperatures to avoid denaturing the protein components " denotes a process that produces a higher percentage of undenatured whey. In the case of Now Isolate the beta-lactoglobulin is a lot higher at 75% than in some other wheys; my London Drugs whey this time is 42% beta-lactoglobulin and higher in serum albumin so it will produce more glutathione. The method to tell them apart is at the bottom of my whey page: http://tinyurl.com/whey-page You'd need lab work to find out how high your glutathione reserves or oxidative stress are. Lots of wheys produce glutathione; I posted a few on my web page and there are others to compare as well. Your choice all good, Duncan > > > > > > > > > Now whey is likely not undenatured whey. It isn't even advertised as undenatured. > > > I wouldn't use it as glutathione precursor -- but as meal replacement or muscle builder yes. > > > > > > > > > elaine > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Hi This topic about the suitability of NOW Protein Isolates comes back and forth and the answers really never satisfy me. let's make it simple: YES? or NO? Let's put aside all scientific terms... Let me repeat:  Can NOW Whey Protein isolates be used for building up Glutathione levels? Yes or No?. IMO, whey shouldn't be that expensive since it is a byproduct of cheese and otther dairy products making. ________________________________ From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 2:45 PM Subject: Re: confused about whey  Elaine, Now Foods had listed the exact undenatured proteins on the label: serum albumin, alpha-lactalbumin, lactoferrin, and beta-lactoglobulin. These undenatured proteins can be carefully scavenged even from milk that was flash-pasteurised and if they are listed, they are present in the bottle. all good, Duncan > > > Now whey is likely not undenatured whey. It isn't even advertised as undenatured. > I wouldn't use it as glutathione precursor -- but as meal replacement or muscle builder yes. > > > elaine > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Franz, the Now whey isolate description that says low-temperature processing is used, and figures I have had posted on my site for about 8 years show the precursor amounts for glutathione production. You can compare the figures with a couple of others using the method I've posted on my page too: http://tinyurl.com/whey-page As you'll see, other wheys also will provide the glutathione precursors. They are more expensive than Now isolate and many produce more glutathione too. You're right about waste whey being inexpensive but that's not what we're buying. The whey we buy for health has its undenatured components sorted and reclaimed for us, so we get what we pay for. Ruined denatured whey can indeed be had for about $2 per lb. often in the bulk section of the supermarket. all good, Duncan > > Hi > > This topic about the suitability of NOW Protein Isolates comes back and forth and the answers really never satisfy me. let's make it simple: YES? or NO? Let's put aside all scientific terms... > Let me repeat:  Can NOW Whey Protein isolates be used for building up Glutathione levels? Yes or No?. > > IMO, whey shouldn't be that expensive since it is a byproduct of cheese and otther dairy products making. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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