Guest guest Posted April 15, 2001 Report Share Posted April 15, 2001 I think the " troubles " within a day of training was primarily due to the shifting of fuel source. Normally, fuel source from carbs shifting to fat will occur within 2 to 4 days, depending on carb depletion via workout (resistance preferred). During the shift - blood work may indicate worse readings (Higher uric acid levels, triglycerides, ldl, etc.) but, if ketogenic diet is sustained to about 2 weeks, readings will normalize and even improve as to baseline initial readings. For Low intensity workouts (Aerobic type) -The ketogenic diet is very effective. For Marathons or the like-- I would have done a Cyclical Ketogenic Diet prior to the race. This would super saturate muscles w/glucose (Carbs)just before the race. Essentially, You do a lowcarb for about a week before the race, then a day before the race you carb up at about 10g carbs per kg. Body weight w/in 24hrs. ------Original Message------ Dear Group A friend of mine was placed on a Ketogenic Diet while trying to train for the Hawian Marathon. He said within a day of training he was having severe mental and physical troubles. Just like to here the thoughts from the group on the use of the Ketogenic Diet and sports perfromance. Dont really need a run down of the any physiological explanations of the Krebs Cycle or gluconeogenesis as have that all under control, just would like some objective " non-emotive " ideas of the use of this type of diet and its place in the sporting arena. ---------- Simon O'Connor ---------------------------------------------- Shishio Makoto-18th Century Japanese Warrior who Spontaneously Combusted (ketoacidosis) in his Final Battle The Difference Its A Matter of Information ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2001 Report Share Posted April 23, 2001 callsime@... wrote: > A friend of mine was placed on a Ketogenic Diet while trying to > train for the Hawian Marathon. He said within a day of training he > was having severe mental and physical troubles. That should come as no surprise. Who put him on the ketogenic diet, and did anyone explain to him that he'd need to adapt to the diet? I'm sure he carb-depleted almost immediately with his training routine, and I'm sure he's been eating high-carb (like most endurance athletes) for quite some time. > Just like to here the thoughts from the group on the use of the > Ketogenic Diet and sports perfromance. Dont really need a run down > of the any physiological explanations of the Krebs Cycle or > gluconeogenesis as have that all under control, just would like > some objective " non-emotive " ideas of the use of this type of diet > and its place in the sporting arena. Any anaerobic training is going to require carbs, but he should be able to adapt to a ketogenic diet while training with long, slow, distance runs. Heck, he might even drop into ketosis with moderate carb intake, the way a marathon runner trains. Matt Madsen __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 My son tried this diet for 2 days. It was inhumane. I don't see how anyone can live on it. The choices are awful and it is very stressful for the kid. My son had awful seizures but I remember saying that even if this diet worked, it would not be worth the awful restrictions. I compared it to, like saying, If you cut off your head you won't have seizures anymore. It may work, but at a drastic cost. in Austin Ketogenic diet > and any others who have children who are prone to seizures: > Dateline did a story tonight on how children with epileptic seizures are improving dramatically by doing this Ketogenic Diet which consists of high fat foods(strictly measured). These kids were actually able to get off all of their medications, which were not helping them anyway. Just wanted to know if you all were familiar with this diet and let you know about it. It sounds like something worth trying! The story is on the Dateline NBC website if you want to read the transcripts. > a > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 My son tried this diet for 2 days. It was inhumane. I don't see how anyone can live on it. The choices are awful and it is very stressful for the kid. My son had awful seizures but I remember saying that even if this diet worked, it would not be worth the awful restrictions. I compared it to, like saying, If you cut off your head you won't have seizures anymore. It may work, but at a drastic cost. in Austin Ketogenic diet > and any others who have children who are prone to seizures: > Dateline did a story tonight on how children with epileptic seizures are improving dramatically by doing this Ketogenic Diet which consists of high fat foods(strictly measured). These kids were actually able to get off all of their medications, which were not helping them anyway. Just wanted to know if you all were familiar with this diet and let you know about it. It sounds like something worth trying! The story is on the Dateline NBC website if you want to read the transcripts. > a > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 Dee had recommended the Ketogenic diet to me, and i'm planning on googling to get more information on it, but wondered if some of you have specific experience with this diet, how long you needed to be on it, and any good websites w/ recommendations etc. thanks, Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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