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http://www.politicalwomen.com/cdc.htm

From this article... "The EPA's mercury limit is well below the mercury level the Food and Drug Administration and other health agencies consider dangerous..."

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Uhm...

This is supposed to Be reassuring? To me it just sounds like either the government's various agencies just set their limits arbitrarily at what's best for their own purposes, or they're all just guessing idiots. Or, uhm, maybe both?

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Hi ,

Yes, there are vacinnations without Thimarosal. I'm not sure about the safety of a vaccine since there hasn't been enough studies to show that they are safe for our children with autism even without the thimerosal.

Congratulations on your grandaughters recovery. Keep the vitamin supplements going. Keep an eye on her digestive system and food sensitivities. Stools should always be firm and soft and not foul smelling - This is a good sign of digestive health.

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Ladyshrink111@... writes:

My question is this. Are vaccines without thimerosol okay? And how would you go about figuring out how to get them? If not, what do you do about vaccinations and school. I would appreciate any advice/experience anyone has about how to handle the school, should we decide not to continue with any further vaccinations.

Thank you,

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Dear Group:

I have an important question, but:

First in the way of introduction, I am the grandmother of a 3.75 year old granddaughter who we believe was firmly headed down the autism path.

Even though she is bright (she had taught herself to read at 3), her preschool teacher reported that although she wanted to play with her schoolmates, she did not appear to know how. Although her speech was age appropriate, it was difficult to have a reciprocal conversation with Jordan. A few times when her mother attempted to force a conversation with her, Jordan recited a "Dora" episode. She had a lot of fears (SI) of water, dogs, heights.

We never did get a formal diagnosis of Jordan's condition, but I have been a marriage, family and child therapist for 12 years and I had seen plenty of children with Asperger's Disorder and PDD.

To make a long story short, at that time, we improved her diet, began to supplement what she wasn't getting from her diet and the improvement was remarkable. She is now (according to her preschool teacher) age appropriate socially. According to the developmental pediatrician we saw at Akron Children's Hospital, she does not have a diagnosis of Autism or PDD. Her fears are simply gone. We are immensely grateful.

Like most of you, we believe that Jordan's difficulties began with ear infections at 15 months, repeated immunizations with thimerosol and the resulting damage to her liver and other systemic organs.

My question is this. Are vaccines without thimerosol okay? And how would you go about figuring out how to get them? If not, what do you do about vaccinations and school. I would appreciate any advice/experience anyone has about how to handle the school, should we decide not to continue with any further vaccinations.

Thank you,

----- Original Message -----

From: The Marotta Family

Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:30 PM

Subject: [ ] more on thimerosal

Hi all. In case you are interested in possibly more evidence linking thimerosal and autism, here is an email that was posted on another list I belong to. Gives you something to think about.

Marotta

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This was forwarded to me on a local (California) list, from RickRollens, co-founder of the MIND Institute at U.C. .

>> According to information released today by the California State>> Department of Developmental Services (DDS), California's>> developmental services system has just experienced the first ever>> nine month sustained reduction in the numbers of professionally>> diagnosed new cases of full syndrome autism being added to>> California's developmental services system.>>>> The data compares new intakes from the most current three consecutive>> quarterly periods (October 2003 through June 2004) to all other>> previous October through June time periods.>>>> Not only did the most recent three consecutive quarter period produce>> the first sustained reduction in the 35 year history of California's>> developmental services system (197 fewer new cases then the previous>> October through June period), but the most current recently completed>> quarter, April 2004 through June 2004, produced the all time largest>> reduction of any quarter (108 less cases) in the history of the system.>>>> DDS only reports professionally diagnosed cases of full syndrome DSM>> IV autism and DOES NOT include PDD, NOS, Asperger's Syndrome, or any>> other autism spectrum disorder in this reporting category. The>> numbers reported by DDS do not include children under the age of>> three years old.>>>> Historically, the four to six year old age group dominate the new>> intake population. Within the past few months, for the first time,>> children born in the years 1999 and 2000 are now entering the system.>>>> What makes this historic development of this very recent reduction in>> new cases of autism so important is that those children from the>> birth cohorts of 1999 and 2000 are now entering the system. First>> with the year 1999 and much more so with year 2000, these are the>> widely recognized first two years of the beginning of the serious>> effort to substantially reduce the amount of the mercury containing>> preservative Thimerisol in childhood vaccines.>>>> Could this be the beginning of the decline of the autism epidemic?>> Have we discovered a "smoking gun" environmental factor that has>> contributed to the epidemic?>>>> California, with the world's best record keeping system, is the de>> facto "canary in the coal mine" in tracking new cases of autism. In>> 1999 the first DDS report on autism established for the first time>> the existence of a growing autism epidemic. A report released by DDS>> in 2003 documented a doubling of the autism caseload from 1999-2002.>>>> Recently published groundbreaking research initiated and funded by>> the U.C. M.I.N.D. Institute, and conducted by Dr. Mady Hornig>> at Columbia University, has established a biological mechanism in an>> animal model that combines genetic susceptibility and Thimerisol>> poisoning which results in behaviors in the animal model very similar>> to human autistic behaviors. Autism like brain pathology was also>> discovered in these animals. Many more of these independent studies>> currently being conducted at M.I.N.D. and at other facilities around>> the world will shed more light on the viral/bacterial/toxin>> interaction with genetic susceptibilities in the coming months.>>>> Please see the DDS data below, and review the attachments which>> include an important chart and complete data spread sheet.>>>>>> # of new cases Increase over>> previous April though June>> three quarter>> period increase from>>>> previous year>>>>>> Oct. - Dec., 1999>> Jan. - March 2000 1331>> -->> -->>>> April - June 2000>>>> Oct. - Dec., 2000>> Jan. - March 2001 1930>> 599 176>> April - June 2001>>>> Oct. - Dec., 2001>> Jan. - March 2002 2314>> 384 182>> April - June 2002>>>> Oct. - Dec., 2002>> Jan. - March 2003 2391>> 77 -15>> April - June 2003>>>> Oct. - Dec. 2003>> Jan. - March 2004 2194>> -197 -108>> April. - June 2004>>>~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ - Parent to Parent for Autism Website: http://hometown.aol.com/parentschat/homepage.html~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~

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