Re: Re: coconut oil a poor choice for ozonation

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Thanks Duncan ..I will give all a try when I reassemble my ozonetherapy set.

With regards

Lew

On 2/28/11, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

> Lew, while a few of the unsaturated fats form ozonides, the saturated fats

> do not. The " best oils " for ozonation include olive, safflower, sunflower,

> peanut; all have been selected for the high oleic acid content.

>

> all good,

>

> Duncan

>

>

>> >>>>

>> >>>> Long as you understand that oil swishing doesn't pull anything

>> >>>> through

>> >>>> the

>> >>>> buccal >membrane as Fife has clarified a couple of times, you're good

>> >>>> to

>> >>>> go.

>> >>>

>> >>> You're granting me your permission? How magnanimous of you :-)

>> >>>

>> >>> quoting Duncan:

>> >>>> The buccal membrane prevents the oil from going into tissues and

>> >>>> attaching

>> >>>> to toxins in >blood, AND/OR the tissues, AND/OR the lymph.

>> >>>

>> >>> As I understand it Duncan, the buccal murcosa is the lining of the

>> >>> cheeks

>> >>> and the back of the lips. But what of the sublingual murcosa (the

>> >>> tongue

>> >>> and

>> >>> floor of the mouth) which is relatively permeable and able to absorb

>> >>> bioavailables. These, along with the nasal cavaties have a direct

>> >>> route

>> >>> to

>> >>> the lymph:

>> >>> http://www.bartleby.com/107/177.html

>> >>>

>> >>> Didn't Lew just say that >> " The rationale of Oil pulling is the

>> >>> lymphatic

>> >>> drainage : the

>> >>>>> anatomical oro-nasal connection " ?

>> >>>

>> >>> And here is a study regarding the difference in absorbability between

>> >>> the

>> >>> buccal and sublingual mercosa:

>> >>> http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=986942

>> >>>

>> >>> The sublingual route has received far more attention than has the

>> >>> buccal

>> >>> route. The sublingual mucosa includes the membrane of the ventral

>> >>> surface

>> >>> of

>> >>> the tongue and the floor of the mouth whereas the buccal mucosa

>> >>> constitutes

>> >>> the lining of the cheek. The sublingual mucosa is relatively

>> >>> permeable,

>> >>> thus

>> >>> giving rapid absorption and acceptable bioavailabilities of many

>> >>> drugs.

>> >>> Further, the sublingual mucosa is convenient, accessible, and

>> >>> generally

>> >>> well

>> >>> accepted. This route has been investigated clinically for the delivery

>> >>> of

>> >>> a

>> >>> substantial number of drugs. It is the preferred route for

>> >>> administration

>> >>> of

>> >>> nitroglycerin and is also used for buprenorphine and nifedipine. D.

>> >>>

>> >>> &

>> >>> J. , 81 J. Pharmaceutical Sci. 1 (1992).

>> >>>

>> >>> The buccal mucosa is less permeable than the sublingual mucosa. The

>> >>> rapid

>> >>> absorption and high bioavailabilities seen with sublingual

>> >>> administration

>> >>> of

>> >>> drugs is not generally provided to the same extent by the buccal

>> >>> mucosa.

>> >>> D.

>> >>> & J. , 81 J. Pharmaceutical Sci. (1992) at 2. The

>> >>> permeability of the oral mucosae is probably related to the physical

>> >>> characteristics of the tissues. The sublingual mucosa is thinner than

>> >>> the

>> >>> buccal mucosa, thus permeability is greater for the sublingual tissue.

>> >>> The

>> >>> palatal mucosa is intermediate in thickness, but is keratinized

>> >>> whereas

>> >>> the

>> >>> other two tissues are not, thus lessening its permeability.

>> >>>

>> >>> The ability of molecules to permeate through the oral mucosa appears

>> >>> to

>> >>> be

>> >>> related to molecular size, lipid solubility, and ionization. Small

>> >>> molecules, less than about 100 daltons, appear to cross the mucosa

>> >>> rapidly.

>> >>> As molecular size increases, however, permeability decreases rapidly.

>> >>> Lipid-soluble compounds are more permeable through the mucosa than are

>> >>> non-lipid-soluble molecules. . . .

>> >>>

>> >>> Substances that facilitate the transport of solutes across biological

>> >>> membranes, penetration enhancers, are well known in the art for

>> >>> administering drugs. V. Lee et al., 8 Critical Reviews in Therapeutic

>> >>> Drug

>> >>> r Systems 91 (1991) [hereinafter " Critical Reviews " ].

>> >>> Penetration

>> >>> enhancers may be categorized as chelators (e.g., EDTA, citric acid,

>> >>> salicylates), surfactants (e.g., sodium dodecyl sulfate (SDS)),

>> >>> non-surfactants (e.g., unsaturated cyclic ureas), bile salts (e.g.,

>> >>> sodium

>> >>> deoxycholate, sodium tauro-cholate), and FATTY ACIDS (e.g., oleic

>> >>> acid,

>> >>> acylcarnitines, mono- and diglycerides).

>> >>>

>> >>> quoting Duncan:

>> >>>> snip<

>> >>>> > Although there is more manipulation of the surrounding tissues with

>> >>>> > mouth than >using a waterpik, with regard to the amount of pressure

>> >>>> > from

>> >>>> > oil swishing the mouth can >only exert about .3 to .5 of a pound

>> >>>> > pressure, while the waterpik has an operating >pressure of about

>> >>>> > 60-90

>> >>>> > psi, so the waterpik has a decided edge below the gumline in

>> >>>> > >dental

>> >>>> > hygeine, as several members on this and the electroherbalism list

>> >>>> > pointed out.

>> >>>

>> >>> Duncan, I reviewed that thread and no one - except for you - said that

>> >>> the

>> >>> waterpik worked better for them than oil pulling. In fact I don't

>> >>> think

>> >>> those talking about the various water piks, flossing, and toothpaste

>> >>> had

>> >>> ever even tried it. The one who had tried it recommended it to the one

>> >>> who

>> >>> asked about it. And how do you account for those (myself included) who

>> >>> used

>> >>> a water pik but received no reversal of a systemic problem until after

>> >>> starting oil pulling? If there's a waterpik cure I haven't heard of

>> >>> it.

>> >>> Did you miss this part of the testimonial I referenced? :

>> >>>

>> >>> quote: " a friend handed me a piece of paper describing an oil therapy

>> >>> from

>> >>> Dr. F. Karach. I decided to try it since nothing else had worked for

>> >>> me

>> >>> thus far. Each morning before breakfast, I took one tablespoon of

>> >>> sunflower

>> >>> oil and slowly swished it in my mouth for fifteen to twenty minutes. I

>> >>> repeated the procedure each night before going to bed. After

>> >>> spitting out the oil, I found it helpful to use my Water Pik to

>> >>> thoroughly

>> >>> cleanse the tongue and gums. "

>> >>>

>> >>> This was the person who had been having liver pains for 15 months. The

>> >>> pains

>> >>> stopped after 3 days of oil pulling.

>> >>>

>> >>> Yes, the waterpik is quite useful to remove the oil after oil pulling.

>> >>> And

>> >>> I'm sure it's useful as a cleaning tool as well. However, I really

>> >>> haven't

>> >>> needed mine since oil pulling. It has been sitting under my sink

>> >>> gathering

>> >>> dust for years. Rinsing and brushing are all I need to remove the oil.

>> >>> Rinsing and flossing are good too - after eating.

>> >>>

>> >>> Dee

>> >>>

>> >>>

>> >>

>> >

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