Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Hey Anita, Yes, well I think that GABA is quite complex, and we are sure to hear more about it int he coming years from the experts on how it does i's work. It's been known for some time that if you supplement with GABA it doesn't cross the blood-brain barrier, But nonw it seems that it doesnt'really have to, because it does things peripherally that affect other metabolites that are in the central nervous system -- they just have to figure out how it does that. So it seems that it sets off a sort of domino effect. Just the fact that it works in the endocrine system and the immune system and then that alpha waves go up while beta waves go down int eh brain, means that GABA does indeed have effects ont eh brain, even when you give it orally. Lulu is hyperexcitable -- she has arm flapping, she roars and laughs and runs around and flaps her arms when she is excited, she gets excited easily. So for her, the GABA calmed her down a bit -- sort of smoothed her out -- made her able to focus better, pay attention more, gave us some cognitive gains (which I think was from the ability to focus more), and then gave us this singing thing and better understanding of what we were saying -- ebtter receptive language. They say that in the CNS, GABA is involved with central auditory processing -- it sort of puts the gaps between words, instead of having them all run together. It of course is the calming neurotransmitter that helps to balance against glutamate which is excitatory, but we need both -- they jsut need to be in balance. Anyway, I will definitely be watching for the experts to learn more about how it works as a supplement! Hugs, Theresa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How high can we go then? > > > > > > > I have just been giving quarter spoon once a day. > > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > Vicky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: > > 13/01/2007 > > > 17:40 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: > > 13/01/2007 > > > 17:40 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Thanks Theresa, I’m glad I stumbled across this big dose. Do you think it is safe to be giving a big dose? Sara Re: GABA Hey Anita, Yes, well I think that GABA is quite complex, and we are sure to hear more about it int he coming years from the experts on how it does i's work. It's been known for some time that if you supplement with GABA it doesn't cross the blood-brain barrier, But nonw it seems that it doesnt'really have to, because it does things peripherally that affect other metabolites that are in the central nervous system -- they just have to figure out how it does that. So it seems that it sets off a sort of domino effect. Just the fact that it works in the endocrine system and the immune system and then that alpha waves go up while beta waves go down int eh brain, means that GABA does indeed have effects ont eh brain, even when you give it orally. Lulu is hyperexcitable -- she has arm flapping, she roars and laughs and runs around and flaps her arms when she is excited, she gets excited easily. So for her, the GABA calmed her down a bit -- sort of smoothed her out -- made her able to focus better, pay attention more, gave us some cognitive gains (which I think was from the ability to focus more), and then gave us this singing thing and better understanding of what we were saying -- ebtter receptive language. They say that in the CNS, GABA is involved with central auditory processing -- it sort of puts the gaps between words, instead of having them all run together. It of course is the calming neurotransmitter that helps to balance against glutamate which is excitatory, but we need both -- they jsut need to be in balance. Anyway, I will definitely be watching for the experts to learn more about how it works as a supplement! Hugs, Theresa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How high can we go then? > > > > > > > I have just been giving quarter spoon once a day. > > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > Vicky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: > > 13/01/2007 > > > 17:40 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: > > 13/01/2007 > > > 17:40 > > > > > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.11/627 - Release Date: 15/01/2007 07:54 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.11/627 - Release Date: 15/01/2007 07:54 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Thank you Anita SARA -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.11/627 - Release Date: 15/01/2007 07:54 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.11/627 - Release Date: 15/01/2007 07:54 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Thanks for this reply. It looks incredibly complicated and totally fascinating but I can’t get my head round stuff like that easily and we’re heading towards tribunal at the moment. Just to let you know I’m grateful for your reply and I’ll digest it all later. >>Know how you feel Sara - I have enough of Theresa's posts saved to make a novel, she explains so well and still its complicated - March and April are going to be a Yasko-Blur for me, can't stay on step one for ever can I? Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Hi Theresa, Thanks for this reply. It looks incredibly complicated and totally fascinating but I can’t get my head round stuff like that easily and we’re heading towards tribunal at the moment. Just to let you know I’m grateful for your reply and I’ll digest it all later. Thanks, Sara Re: GABA Hey Sara, Although it may seem paradoxical, that makes a lot of sense to me. Mushy comes when you have gone too far in the dose, and maybe that's for kids who are hyperactive/hyperexcitable. GABA made Lulu able to focus better on things, it increased her attention andcognitively she began to wake up. In the peripheral system (meaning not in the central nervous system) GABA evidently also works on the endocrine system. There is a recent article out concerning this -- and they evidently are just learning more about it (but they've ony really known about GABA for a while now -- it's pretty new, the science on GABA). What is interesting, is that GABA is evidently active peripherally (meanig it doesn't have to cross the blood-brain barrier) in several areas that are becoming increasingly recognized to be problem areas for autism -- including the pancreas/ blood sugar regulation (Lulu had problems with that), pituitary/sex hormones (looka the Gieir stuff on hormones, and then look at the fact that progesterone is becoming THE big thing used for myelin repair in everything from spinal cord innjury to traumatic brain injury to Multiple Sclerosis -- Lulu has hypomyelination), and adrenal glands/adrenal issues (so many kids have problems with this). So GABA does a lot more than we thinnk it does. See the abstract below. Many hugs, Theresa Auton Neurosci. 2006 Jan 30;124(1-2):1-8. Epub 2005 Dec 7. The peripheral GABAergic system as a target in endocrine disorders. Gladkevich A, Korf J, Hakobyan VP, Melkonyan KV. Department of Psychiatry, University Medical Center Groningen, University Groningen, Hanzeplein 1, PO Box 30.001, 9700 RB Groningen, The Netherlands. a.v.gladkevichpsy (DOT) umcg.nl In addition to its well-recognized function as a cerebral inhibitory transmitter, less well established is the role of GABA in peripheral nervous and endocrine systems. We summarize current evidence that GABA serves as a neurotransmitter or neuromodulator in the autonomic nervous system and as a hormone or trophic factor in non-neuronal peripheral tissue as well. GABA is widely distributed in endocrine tissues including the pituitary, pancreas, adrenal glands, uterus, ovaries, placenta and testis. Moreover, GABA is involved in the pathophysiology of endocrine disorders such as diabetes mellitus, diseases of adrenal glands and reproductive tracts. Current literature indicates that the peripheral GABA system in the autonomic nervous system, endocrine and immune systems is as yet nearly an unexplored target for diagnosis and drug treatment. Publication Types: • Review PMID: 16338174 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > > > > > > > > How high can we go then? > > > > > I have just been giving quarter spoon once a day. > > > > > TIA > > > > > Vicky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: 13/01/2007 > 17:40 > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: 13/01/2007 > 17:40 > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.11/627 - Release Date: 15/01/2007 07:54 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.12/631 - Release Date: 16/01/2007 08:25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Hi Can anyone tell me when is it best to give the supplement Gaba – is it okay to give it before bed AND also what dose do people give to a 9 year old boy who is 28 kgs? Thanks Nicola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 2 capsules before bed yes, > > Hi > > > > Can anyone tell me when is it best to give the supplement Gaba †" is it okay to give it before bed AND also what dose do people give to a 9 year old boy who is 28 kgs? > > > > Thanks > > Nicola > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 On 9 October 2010 12:38, za <bbuyonline@...> wrote: > 2 capsules before bed yes, What's the maximum dosage of gaba? i give myself 750mg per day when the stress gets a bit much. -- is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Anyone know anything about GABA. Whether or not its worth trying and how much of it to take. Looking at it to help in calming and help with sleep. I have tried it at a low dose 750 mg and didn't notice any benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 , I wouldn't take either one as one is timed-released and the other is coenzymeted (whatever that means). According to Dr. it is best to take the purest form of Niacinamide. His recommendations are based on the extensive research of Dr. Kaufman on Niacinamide. Niacin and Niacinamide are different forms of Vitamin B3 and have different effects. Niacin causes vasodilation (and the flush) and is mainly used for lowering bad cholesterol. Niacinamide is useful for many other conditions, including those already mentioned. Dr. Kaufman found that taking 250 mg. tablets frequently (rather than larger doses once or twice a day) worked best for arthritis. The latest research on altzheimers, however, is using larger doses. Dr. , in one of his latest newsletters, also recommended 4-250 mg. tablets before bedtime to help with sleep. In order to cover all bases I now take a tablet 5x a day plus 4 at bedtime. I have not had any negative effects at this amount but I am also using the purest form. Not sure how those you mentioned would work. The ones I use are not incapsulated and melt easily on the tongue so I know they are pure and easily digested. Best, Dee > > > > Anyone know anything about GABA. Whether or not its worth trying and how much > > > of it to take. Looking at it to help in calming and help with sleep. I have > > tried it at a low dose 750 mg and didn't notice any benefits. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 So do i, usually, just thought that this time, I would give the MSM time to work, since it seems to be working, just so slowly. ________________________________ From: Dolores <dgk@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Tue, October 11, 2011 9:43:35 AM Subject: Re: GABA That's probably a good idea . That way you will know for sure what works. I, on the other hand, tend to throw the kitchen sink at things :-) Best, Dee > > > Hi Dee, > > I decided I am going to wait for awhile before I add anything else to my > regimen. I am still slowly increasing the MSM and it is slowly working, so I > want to see if how dampening down the rampant inflammation goes. Thanks for >the > > info, and I will keep the niacinamide on my wish list for later if I still need > > it. > > > C. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Dolores <dgk@...> > Coconut Oil > Sent: Mon, October 10, 2011 12:31:19 PM > Subject: Re: GABA > > > , > > I wouldn't take either one as one is timed-released and the other is >coenzymeted > > (whatever that means). According to Dr. it is best to take the > purest form of Niacinamide. His recommendations are based on the extensive > research of Dr. Kaufman on Niacinamide. Niacin and Niacinamide are different > forms of Vitamin B3 and have different effects. Niacin causes vasodilation (and > > the flush) and is mainly used for lowering bad cholesterol. Niacinamide is > useful for many other conditions, including those already mentioned. Dr. >Kaufman > > found that taking 250 mg. tablets frequently (rather than larger doses once or > twice a day) worked best for arthritis. The latest research on altzheimers, > however, is using larger doses. Dr. , in one of his latest newsletters, > > also recommended 4-250 mg. tablets before bedtime to help with sleep. In order > to cover all bases I now take a tablet 5x a day plus 4 at bedtime. I have not > had any negative effects at this amount but I am also using the purest form. >Not > > sure how those you mentioned would work. The ones I use are not incapsulated >and > > melt easily on the tongue so I know they are pure and easily digested. > > Best, > Dee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 How much MSM are you using? I have been taking a scoop a day since Feb and have seen no results. Even my slightly creeky right jaw hinge has not quieted down at all. That bitter stuff is hard to keep taking when I don't see the slightest result. Maybe it is " when " I take it that is wrong, or " How " or something. How does everyone else work it into their schedule it? Coconut Oil From: lecody2001@... Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 06:52:41 -0700 Subject: Re: Re: GABA So do i, usually, just thought that this time, I would give the MSM time to work, since it seems to be working, just so slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Dee Here is another stupid example of messing up these emails. Take a look at where I am sending this from--my windows live account Then look at the site where I assigned the email that I want these sent to: Coconut Oil/join does not work right. Oh, and I would like to start taking niacin sometime, and I've been reading the conversations for awhile here. But it sounds like it's a touchy vitamin that can really do bad things if you don't know what you're doing. How does one find a pure form of B3? How do you find out if you actually need it? Is B3 a vitamin everyone is deficient in or low in and that is why the detox is so violent for some people? For example, I started taking iodine a few months ago and learned it as I went and found out it is a detoxifier and I realized that is what I was noticing now and then, that my body started detoxifying from it. I did not have any trouble except on the day that I increased my dose. After that and taking that same size dose, I breezed right along just fine. So maybe I would not even have any trouble with B3 when I get started. I just don't know what form I should be taking that is best for me, since it sounds like that is very important. ________________________________ From: Dolores <dgk@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Tue, October 11, 2011 9:43:35 AM Subject: Re: GABA That's probably a good idea . That way you will know for sure what works. I, on the other hand, tend to throw the kitchen sink at things :-) Best, Dee > > > Hi Dee, > > I decided I am going to wait for awhile before I add anything else to my > regimen. I am still slowly increasing the M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Hi All: it seems that all of these help MSM do its magic, but MSM is the bottom line IMHO. I was taking Gaba before I discovered the power of MSM in quantity, over ten years now. GABA , alone, never healed me, but MSM in quantity did. I say, give MSM the time to work, but also give it any help that you can. This is a very complex problem and more than our little minds will ever sort out completely. MSM and Gaba are both relatively cheap and neither has any downside that I have found. Regards, Jim >So do i, usually, just thought that this time, I would give the MSM time to work, since it seems to be working, just so slowly. < Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 I have added the Vitamin C to help and I have a little GABA leftover, but I wanted some more info before I bought more and took it regularly. On the MSM I am up to 28 grams a day. And in spite of the icky rainy weather, I have little joint pain, so its working. I have some DMSO/AloeVera that I apply to the more painful joints and since I stopped the plaquenil for the bad muscle pain. I haven't had a return of the really bad spasms, so either the MSM in taking care of that, or I haven't been off the plaquenil long enough. I will just have to keep taking the MSM and see what happens. ________________________________ From: Huuman <huuman60@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Wed, October 12, 2011 12:06:57 PM Subject: Re: GABA Hi All: it seems that all of these help MSM do its magic, but MSM is the bottom line IMHO. I was taking Gaba before I discovered the power of MSM in quantity, over ten years now. GABA , alone, never healed me, but MSM in quantity did. I say, give MSM the time to work, but also give it any help that you can. This is a very complex problem and more than our little minds will ever sort out completely. MSM and Gaba are both relatively cheap and neither has any downside that I have found. Regards, Jim >So do i, usually, just thought that this time, I would give the MSM time to work, since it seems to be working, just so slowly. < Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Had a problem with the whey... So no, not doing it... may try it again later as I was doing too much dairy and seem to be lactose intolerant and haven't found good assurance that whey is lactose free, even if not, I could just be intolerant to it too.... Yea, I know that the DMSO is a form of MSM, but it helps immediately with on kind of muscle pain I have that frequently lead to severe muscle spasms if I don't take care of it quickly... ________________________________ From: Huuman <huuman60@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Fri, October 14, 2011 10:39:25 AM Subject: Re: GABA Hi : Its not important, but remember that DMSO is just another form of MSM. The aloe probably will not heal you, but it soothes. Good to hear that you got off of the drug. Sounds like you are well on the path to full recovery. Are you doing Duncan's Whey also? It is all complementary. Cheers, Jim >I have added the Vitamin C to help and I have a little GABA leftover, but I wanted some more info before I bought more and took it regularly. On the MSM I am up to 28 grams a day. And in spite of the icky rainy weather, I have little joint pain, so its working. I have some DMSO/AloeVera that I apply to the more painful joints and since I stopped the plaquenil for the bad muscle pain. I haven't had a return of the really bad spasms, so either the MSM in taking care of that, or I haven't been off the plaquenil long enough. I will just have to keep taking the MSM and see what happens. < Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 How much is in a scoop and what is it you want it to do? I have been doing 36 grams, but I am cutting back to 28 grams as I got the racing heart thingy last night. So I will drop back to 24 grams which is 2 tablespoons plus 1 teaspoon and I divide mine into 3 daily doses [about every 8 hours] with the lowest amount in the evening. ________________________________ From: mkmeursgod lk <ly.ninwv@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Wed, October 12, 2011 9:44:09 AM Subject: RE: Re: GABA How much MSM are you using? I have been taking a scoop a day since Feb and have seen no results. Even my slightly creeky right jaw hinge has not quieted down at all. That bitter stuff is hard to keep taking when I don't see the slightest result. Maybe it is " when " I take it that is wrong, or " How " or something. How does everyone else work it into their schedule it? Coconut Oil From: lecody2001@... Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 06:52:41 -0700 Subject: Re: Re: GABA So do i, usually, just thought that this time, I would give the MSM time to work, since it seems to be working, just so slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 I have just recently found a food scale that weights in grams and so a measured scoop is just under 10 grams. But I find it really, really difficult to get anymore than that into me. It is so bitter and I take so many other things that are bitter, too, that I cannot conquer my mental condition which, at this point, will not accept anymore yucky stuff. As for increasing doses, I recently saw someone post figures that, when I figured out by weight what I should be taking, it was 1/3 cup. There is just no way! Ughhhh! I've tried all kinds of ways to get this stuff down easier. I have ground it up along with stevia. I have taken it with my kombucha. I was soaking it with olive leaf/peppermint oil. Nothing helped for very long. So I just cannot come up with a palatable way that would let me get as much as 1/3 cup into me. If someone has another suggestion other than what I have tried, let me know, cuz I am all out of ideas and will. Coconut Oil From: lecody2001@... Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:09:21 -0700 Subject: Re: Re: GABA How much is in a scoop and what is it you want it to do? I have been doing 36 grams, but I am cutting back to 28 grams as I got the racing heart thingy last night. So I will drop back to 24 grams which is 2 tablespoons plus 1 teaspoon and I divide mine into 3 daily doses [about every 8 hours] with the lowest amount in the evening. ________________________________ From: mkmeursgod lk <ly.ninwv@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Wed, October 12, 2011 9:44:09 AM Subject: RE: Re: GABA How much MSM are you using? I have been taking a scoop a day since Feb and have seen no results. Even my slightly creeky right jaw hinge has not quieted down at all. That bitter stuff is hard to keep taking when I don't see the slightest result. Maybe it is " when " I take it that is wrong, or " How " or something. How does everyone else work it into their schedule it? Coconut Oil From: lecody2001@... Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 06:52:41 -0700 Subject: Re: Re: GABA So do i, usually, just thought that this time, I would give the MSM time to work, since it seems to be working, just so slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Well you could put it in capsules or buy it that way. I just mix 12 grams [1 tbs] in water [about 6 0z] and drink it down.. what I am not crazy about is the vitamin c. That is as nasty to me as MSM is to you. C. ________________________________ From: mkmeursgod lk <ly.ninwv@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Fri, October 14, 2011 2:32:11 PM Subject: RE: Re: GABA I have just recently found a food scale that weights in grams and so a measured scoop is just under 10 grams. But I find it really, really difficult to get anymore than that into me. It is so bitter and I take so many other things that are bitter, too, that I cannot conquer my mental condition which, at this point, will not accept anymore yucky stuff. As for increasing doses, I recently saw someone post figures that, when I figured out by weight what I should be taking, it was 1/3 cup. There is just no way! Ughhhh! I've tried all kinds of ways to get this stuff down easier. I have ground it up along with stevia. I have taken it with my kombucha. I was soaking it with olive leaf/peppermint oil. Nothing helped for very long. So I just cannot come up with a palatable way that would let me get as much as 1/3 cup into me. If someone has another suggestion other than what I have tried, let me know, cuz I am all out of ideas and will. Coconut Oil From: lecody2001@... Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:09:21 -0700 Subject: Re: Re: GABA How much is in a scoop and what is it you want it to do? I have been doing 36 grams, but I am cutting back to 28 grams as I got the racing heart thingy last night. So I will drop back to 24 grams which is 2 tablespoons plus 1 teaspoon and I divide mine into 3 daily doses [about every 8 hours] with the lowest amount in the evening. ________________________________ From: mkmeursgod lk <ly.ninwv@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Wed, October 12, 2011 9:44:09 AM Subject: RE: Re: GABA How much MSM are you using? I have been taking a scoop a day since Feb and have seen no results. Even my slightly creeky right jaw hinge has not quieted down at all. That bitter stuff is hard to keep taking when I don't see the slightest result. Maybe it is " when " I take it that is wrong, or " How " or something. How does everyone else work it into their schedule it? Coconut Oil From: lecody2001@... Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 06:52:41 -0700 Subject: Re: Re: GABA So do i, usually, just thought that this time, I would give the MSM time to work, since it seems to be working, just so slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 On 2011-10-14 2:32 PM, mkmeursgod lk <ly.ninwv@...> wrote: > I have just recently found a food scale that weights in grams and so > a measured scoop is just under 10 grams. But I find it really, really > difficult to get anymore than that into me. It is so bitter and I > take so many other things that are bitter, too, that I cannot conquer > my mental condition which, at this point, will not accept anymore > yucky stuff. If you are *tasting* it, then you aren't taking it properly. When I take mine (by the heaping tablespoon, right into the mouth), I hardly taste anything, but you have to do it right... It is like holding your nose when you eat something - you simply don't taste it. If you can't figure out how to 'do it' without holding your nose, then by all means, hold your nose: 1. Hold your nose 2. Place a heaping tablespoon of MSM into your mouth 3. Sip some water, but not too much - just enough to allow you to mix the MSM thoroughly with the water 4. Swish the MSM/water around in your mouthg (I grind it with my teeth too) until it is mostly dissolved, and the 'coolness' dissipates 5. Swallow it, then sip some more water and swish it around 6. Repeat step 5 2 or 3 times 7. Done I guarantee you won't taste it this way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Maybe for you it is the form of C you use. I have C that came from thevitaminCfoundation.org that is from L-ascorbic acid and it is very mild tasting, whereas the c powder I had before was ascorbic acid and that was sour as all-getout. So I understand that the form of C is important. As for capsules, I bought a 5 lb bag of MSM powder because I want to get away from taking so many capsules that because they can really add up. I take powder or liquid when I can get what I want in that form. I take a few different powders and I won't mix any of that in water because I don't want to drink a glass of yucky water. Coconut Oil From: lecody2001@... Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:58:14 -0700 Subject: Re: Re: GABA Well you could put it in capsules or buy it that way. I just mix 12 grams [1 tbs] in water [about 6 0z] and drink it down.. what I am not crazy about is the vitamin c. That is as nasty to me as MSM is to you. C. ________________________________ From: mkmeursgod lk <ly.ninwv@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Fri, October 14, 2011 2:32:11 PM Subject: RE: Re: GABA I have just recently found a food scale that weights in grams and so a measured scoop is just under 10 grams. But I find it really, really difficult to get anymore than that into me. It is so bitter and I take so many other things that are bitter, too, that I cannot conquer my mental condition which, at this point, will not accept anymore yucky stuff. As for increasing doses, I recently saw someone post figures that, when I figured out by weight what I should be taking, it was 1/3 cup. There is just no way! Ughhhh! I've tried all kinds of ways to get this stuff down easier. I have ground it up along with stevia. I have taken it with my kombucha. I was soaking it with olive leaf/peppermint oil. Nothing helped for very long. So I just cannot come up with a palatable way that would let me get as much as 1/3 cup into me. If someone has another suggestion other than what I have tried, let me know, cuz I am all out of ideas and will. Coconut Oil From: lecody2001@... Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:09:21 -0700 Subject: Re: Re: GABA How much is in a scoop and what is it you want it to do? I have been doing 36 grams, but I am cutting back to 28 grams as I got the racing heart thingy last night. So I will drop back to 24 grams which is 2 tablespoons plus 1 teaspoon and I divide mine into 3 daily doses [about every 8 hours] with the lowest amount in the evening. ________________________________ From: mkmeursgod lk <ly.ninwv@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Wed, October 12, 2011 9:44:09 AM Subject: RE: Re: GABA How much MSM are you using? I have been taking a scoop a day since Feb and have seen no results. Even my slightly creeky right jaw hinge has not quieted down at all. That bitter stuff is hard to keep taking when I don't see the slightest result. Maybe it is " when " I take it that is wrong, or " How " or something. How does everyone else work it into their schedule it? Coconut Oil From: lecody2001@... Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 06:52:41 -0700 Subject: Re: Re: GABA So do i, usually, just thought that this time, I would give the MSM time to work, since it seems to be working, just so slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Hi (name please?) I previously answered all your questions in messages 38235 and 38289. Just type them into the message# search at the top of the group forum on the internet. Best, Dee > > > Dee > > > Oh, and I would like to start taking niacin sometime, and I've been reading the conversations for awhile here. But it sounds like it's a touchy vitamin that can really do bad things if you don't know what you're doing. How does one find a pure form of B3? How do you find out if you actually need it? Is B3 a vitamin everyone is deficient in or low in and that is why the detox is so violent for some people? For example, I started taking iodine a few months ago and learned it as I went and found out it is a detoxifier and I realized that is what I was noticing now and then, that my body started detoxifying from it. I did not have any trouble except on the day that I increased my dose. After that and taking that same size dose, I breezed right along just fine. So maybe I would not even have any trouble with B3 when I get started. I just don't know what form I should be taking that is best for me, since it sounds like that is very important. > (name?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 When I type the number into the search at the top, it only brings up the email that has this number in the text, which is this one. I don't know how else to search by post number. Coconut Oil From: dgk@... Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 03:57:19 +0000 Subject: Re: GABA Hi (name please?) I previously answered all your questions in messages 38235 and 38289. Just type them into the message# search at the top of the group forum on the internet. Best, Dee > > > Dee > > > Oh, and I would like to start taking niacin sometime, and I've been reading the conversations for awhile here. But it sounds like it's a touchy vitamin that can really do bad things if you don't know what you're doing. How does one find a pure form of B3? How do you find out if you actually need it? Is B3 a vitamin everyone is deficient in or low in and that is why the detox is so violent for some people? For example, I started taking iodine a few months ago and learned it as I went and found out it is a detoxifier and I realized that is what I was noticing now and then, that my body started detoxifying from it. I did not have any trouble except on the day that I increased my dose. After that and taking that same size dose, I breezed right along just fine. So maybe I would not even have any trouble with B3 when I get started. I just don't know what form I should be taking that is best for me, since it sounds like that is very important. > (name?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Hi, You have to put the number into the slot (left of message slot) that says " message # " . Then hit GO. It should then bring up the post. Let me know if it still doesn't work and I will copy and paste them for you. Also, if you have additional questions regarding niacinamide don't hesitate to ask. Best, Dee p.s. Could you please sign your name? Thanks > > > > > > > > > Dee > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, and I would like to start taking niacin sometime, and I've been reading the conversations for awhile here. But it sounds like it's a touchy vitamin that can really do bad things if you don't know what you're doing. How does one find a pure form of B3? How do you find out if you actually need it? Is B3 a vitamin everyone is deficient in or low in and that is why the detox is so violent for some people? For example, I started taking iodine a few months ago and learned it as I went and found out it is a detoxifier and I realized that is what I was noticing now and then, that my body started detoxifying from it. I did not have any trouble except on the day that I increased my dose. After that and taking that same size dose, I breezed right along just fine. So maybe I would not even have any trouble with B3 when I get started. I just don't know what form I should be taking that is best for me, since it sounds like that is very important. > > > > > (name?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Sorry! I meant slot to the left of " Search " . Dee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, and I would like to start taking niacin sometime, and I've been reading the conversations for awhile here. But it sounds like it's a touchy vitamin that can really do bad things if you don't know what you're doing. How does one find a pure form of B3? How do you find out if you actually need it? Is B3 a vitamin everyone is deficient in or low in and that is why the detox is so violent for some people? For example, I started taking iodine a few months ago and learned it as I went and found out it is a detoxifier and I realized that is what I was noticing now and then, that my body started detoxifying from it. I did not have any trouble except on the day that I increased my dose. After that and taking that same size dose, I breezed right along just fine. So maybe I would not even have any trouble with B3 when I get started. I just don't know what form I should be taking that is best for me, since it sounds like that is very important. > > > > > > > > > (name?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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