Guest guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 , every product gets rave reviews from some people while others don't feel a thing. More ALA recycles glutathione better than less ALA, but it doesn't provide fresh glutathione precursors so if you don't have fresh precursors you would be recycling an ever dwindling supply of glutathione as it is naturally depleted. The best results are ontained by taking precursors in addition. The best sources of L-carnitine are beef, pork and bacon, so if you eat those you'll probably not need to supplement L-carnitine. all good, Duncan > > CO q 10 (ubiquinol)is a constant for me. I take it every day. I am curious about alpha lipoic acid and l-carnitine tho. They get rave reviews from some users. A ND told me alpha lipoic acid is a good choice. > Any opinions or comments ? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Thank you Duncan. Relative to glutathione precursors, apparently eggs are a good source of cystine. I add eggs to my daily pancakes. That helps ? > > > > CO q 10 (ubiquinol)is a constant for me. I take it every day. I am curious about alpha lipoic acid and l-carnitine tho. They get rave reviews from some users. A ND told me alpha lipoic acid is a good choice. > > Any opinions or comments ? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Oh oh.. the eggs have to be ingested raw to get the cystine benefit. > > > > > > CO q 10 (ubiquinol)is a constant for me. I take it every day. I am curious about alpha lipoic acid and l-carnitine tho. They get rave reviews from some users. A ND told me alpha lipoic acid is a good choice. > > > Any opinions or comments ? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 On 2011-03-24 4:41 PM, Duncan Crow wrote: > The best sources of L-carnitine are beef, pork and bacon, so if you eat > those you'll probably not need to supplement L-carnitine. I knew there was a reason I felt good after a nice dinner of bacon and/or ham and eggs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Duncan, Apparently precursors will only help to obtain an additional 30% or so of glutathione. So I would think that ALA is important to recycle the amount available in the system. As precursors go, I have tried NAC but I seem to get a negative reaction to it. Perhaps thats because its a mercury chelator and I still have mercury fillings. > > > > CO q 10 (ubiquinol)is a constant for me. I take it every day. I am curious about alpha lipoic acid and l-carnitine tho. They get rave reviews from some users. A ND told me alpha lipoic acid is a good choice. > > Any opinions or comments ? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 , it is important to differentiate between glutathione precursors. There is NAC and whey are different enough to produce differing effects, which are also dose-related. Which study were you referring to? I have no doubt that people get dose-related side effects from NAC; that much is in the research and the reason doctors cite diminishing returns even in an emergency situation at the hospital and don't recommend it long-term at all. Unlike NAC, whey dose can be increased without side effects and also, like NAC, can be taken every few hours to jack up glutathione production. Glutathione doesn't exacly " chelate " or claw metals like a chelator does. It certainly does not dislodge extra amounts of metals so it's use as a chelator is limited. all good, Duncan > > Duncan, > Apparently precursors will only help to obtain an additional 30% or so of glutathione. So I would think that ALA is important to recycle the amount available in the system. > As precursors go, I have tried NAC but I seem to get a negative reaction to it. Perhaps thats because its a mercury chelator and I still have mercury fillings. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Duncan, Well NAC, for the reasons you mentioned, is not a great choice for me, at least not in reg to higher dosages. As for precursors, I wasn't referring to any studies in particular. I have been browsing this page for information. It seems to have a number of good reference studies. http://www.nutritionadvisor.com/glutathione.html# I am still looking into long term potential use of ALA to help keep my glutathione levels reasonably high. So far, the chelating effects seem to be less pronounced than for NAC. Thats important since I still have mercury fillings. I take a multi-vite that has both NAC and R Alpha Lipoic in it so I have to keep dosage in mind. I rarely take all 6 capsules daily since that would mean more potential chelating. Its good to know that Glutathione is not a chelator. > > > > Duncan, > > Apparently precursors will only help to obtain an additional 30% or so of glutathione. So I would think that ALA is important to recycle the amount available in the system. > > As precursors go, I have tried NAC but I seem to get a negative reaction to it. Perhaps thats because its a mercury chelator and I still have mercury fillings. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 I wouldn't rely on the Immunocal distributors for accurate information. Looks like the site's been taken down, at least the dotcom isn't answering at all. NAC shouldn't be chelating mercury any better than whey does; I think you're likely reacting to the free form cysteine. all good, Duncan > > Duncan, > Well NAC, for the reasons you mentioned, is not a great choice for me, at least not in reg to higher dosages. > As for precursors, I wasn't referring to any studies in particular. I have been browsing this page for information. It seems to have a number of good reference studies. > http://www.nutritionadvisor.com/glutathione.html# > I am still looking into long term potential use of ALA to help keep my glutathione levels reasonably high. So far, the chelating effects seem to be less pronounced than for NAC. Thats important since I still have mercury fillings. > I take a multi-vite that has both NAC and R Alpha Lipoic in it so I have to keep dosage in mind. I rarely take all 6 capsules daily since that would mean more potential chelating. > Its good to know that Glutathione is not a chelator. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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