Re: RE: Dieting

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Anne wrote:

> I am not doing the raw thing, I do however try to eat organic, high

> fiber, and healthy. So what is the best diet plan for someone who

> does eat meat and dairy with their fruits and veggies.

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I am sorry Anne but I cannot help you here as I don't believe in fad

dieting. It is your choice how you wish to diet. Cooking your food kills

it totally. No live enzymes anymore. Any nutritive value is lost when

you cook your food. However, I would suggest that you eat more veggies

and fruits and less meat and dairy. I would also suggest that you limit

your portions, if possible, or try eating 6 small meals throughout the

day instead of 3 larger ones.

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Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

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Sara,

There are a few nutrients left if the food after cooking, better is lightly steamed..but cooking food kills enzymes...(fact)... I am not totally raw nor vegan... I do eat alot of raw veggies and fruit, along with some organic meat, spouted grains, etc... and do eat cooked stuff on ocasion as my DH is not into all the herbs, health etc... then I subsidize my plant enzymes and intestinal cleanse capsules...

I didn't read that Don was saying you'd be dead if you didn't eat vegan.... but many of our problems in health come from what and how we eat.

suziSara Thustra <sara.thustra@...> wrote:

I think that's really very overly dogmatic ... of course there are still nutrients in cooked food, or everybody but the handful of raw-dieters in the world would be dead! I don't believe in fad diets either. My parents are both nurses, and we were raised on the "moderation and common sense" diet. Pay attention, replace bad with better, and listen to your body. And take your time -- making small, slow changes is much better for your system (unless you are in acute bad health and need a major change *now*) than completely changing your diet overnight. There are plenty of healthy modifications you can make to a "typical" omnivorous diet that don't involve going completely raw / vegan / etc. The best option, if you can afford it, would be to go see a dietician and get recommendations based on

your own health and habits, but barring that, try writing down everything you eat during the day. After a week or so, you'll have a good idea of what your diet is NOW -- something you have to know before you can change it! Then see where you can substitute fatty, nutritionally "bad" foods for healthier ones, larger portions for smaller, or eliminate things you shouldn't have. Don't go hungry -- your body's pretty smart about knowing when you need food -- but do try to eat more fruits/veggies, less sugar, less packaged foods and more "complete" foods like whole grains, etc. --- it's not difficult, and really, making just a few changes in the right direction can have a big impact on your weight, health and mood. And good luck!-STDon Quai wrote:>=======================>I am sorry Anne but I cannot help you here as I don't believe in fad >dieting. It is your choice how you wish

to diet. Cooking your food kills >it totally. No live enzymes anymore. Any nutritive value is lost when >you cook your food. However, I would suggest that you eat more veggies >and fruits and less meat and dairy. I would also suggest that you limit >your portions, if possible, or try eating 6 small meals throughout the >day instead of 3 larger ones.>> >

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I dropped 25# in three weeks, painlessly and without ever feeling hungry, just by switching to a raw diet. About 95% of what I ate was raw, or in the case of beef, as rare as I could possibly get it. (I can't stand raw beef, it has to be at least warm, but I didn't cook it enough to kill the enzymes.) I ate a lot of seafood (claims, oysters) and tons of fruits and veggies. Got into the habit of having watermelon for breakfast. It's a wonderfully cleansing fruit, especially first thing in the morning.

I'm sorry to say I've inched away from that high percentage of raw, although I still eat a lot of raw food. I never gained the weight back either.

Sharyn

From: Suzanne [mailto:suziesgoats@...]

I have to agree with Don here... the best diet is not only a healthy one but one with alot of raw veggies and fruit..and water... Your body needs enzymes... (read my prev. post on enzymes).. And if it is weight you're wanting to lose... cleanses will do that also... you can do your body good with a cleanse and drop weight too... a double bonus.

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There's a huge range between not being dead and being vibrantly healthy. I'd bet that most of the SAD eaters are somewhere in the lower third to quarter of that range while the raw-eaters are in the upper tenth.

Sharyn

From: Sara Thustra [mailto:sara.thustra@...]

I think that's really very overly dogmatic ... of course there are still nutrients in cooked food, or everybody but the handful of raw-dieters in the world would be dead!

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Sara Thustra wrote:

> I think that's really very overly dogmatic ... of course there are still

> nutrients in cooked food, or everybody but the handful of raw-dieters in

> the world would be dead!

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Dogmatic? Possibly. The human body is a magnificent piece of work. It is

capable of withstanding the abuses we put to it and maintaining a

modicum of health until we reach our 50's, 60's and somewhat beyond and

then it falls apart. Cooked food contains no usable or useful proteins.

It contains no living enzymes. All vitamins are destroyed and all

minerals that were once alive and " organic " if you will are now dead and

inorganic (the body is incapable of utilizing them in any amount to do

you or anyone anygood). All fats and oils are now converted into

transfatty acids which are extremely toxic to our bodies. So what is

left? Carbohydrates and sugars? These are nutrients? When you eat cooked

food your body reacts just like you swallowed poison. This is called

Digestive Leukocytotsis. People who eat raw do not share this effect. So

if you are considering cooked sugars and compound carbohydrates as

nutrients then............... Because there is nothing else usuable for

our bodies after you cook your food. Nothing but fiber!!!!

You wish to believe that cooked food is full of nutrition then you go

right on ahead and believe what you wish. It is your body and your

health. I realize that not everyone wishes to eat raw. That is their

choice. There is no reason whatsoever to ever cook your food. Ever!!!!

It does you absolutely no good. The only reason anyone cooks their food

is because they don't know any better and that is how you have always

eaten since your mother first put a spoonful of dead baby food in your

mouth. Now you might have been one of the lucky ones whose mother made

all your food fresh and non-cooked. Most aren't so lucky. Our body

cannot tolerate going strictly onto raw food from the normal typical

diet most people are accustomed to, because all it knows is dead food.

It cannot handle the detox that occurs when you go raw. Well, actually

our body can but we insist that we can't.

We all choose to believe what we wish. We all choose to eat how we wish.

We all make our own choices in life. We all also get to reap our own

'rewards' for the choices we make.

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Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

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Anne,

Your eating choices are up to you... what you have to remember is that if you are trying to cure a dis-ease in your body... going raw will help cure it much faster than if you continue to eat all cooked meals, caffeine, alcohol. etc. etc... the body cannot cure itself with alot of "hinderences" I went totally raw for about 2 months and did fasts too to fix my knee... now I'm back not totally raw but I do eat a good amount raw, along with cooked.

SuziAnne <pokergirl212000@...> wrote:

I do eat raw fruits and vegetables in my diet, but I am not willing to go all vegetarian. Also curious, someone mentioned eatting beef raw is better than well done. Is this true? I have always heard people say it is healthy to eat beef well done to burn bacteria out of it.

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KLSIRDDOGS@... wrote:

> In a message dated 8/19/2004 12:13:58 PM Mountain Daylight Time,

> gramlin@... writes:

>

> who eat raw but won't share!)

>

> **

> *Yeah, and you probably wouldn't want to share their raw!!! *

> *My biggest problem with this way of eating (for people) is how to get

> enough protein in the diet. I was vegetarian for abou a year and I

> was afraid I wasn't getting enough protein. I went back to meat. I

> need to do a lot of research yet and figure out how to get the right

> amounts of needed proteins, vits/mins/herbs and so forth. D*

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Now you are beginning to think and see. Research and lots of it. You

must educate yourself and seek the truth on your own. Each and every one

of us has to do this. You can take my word for it but you are better off

doing a little research on your own to either prove or disprove what I

or anyone else is telling you. It sounds like a lot of work but it

really isn't. Pretty soon you will find yourself quite knowledgable and

healthy. You can get all the protein you need from the veggies, fruits

and nuts, seeds and grains that you eat and it will be more easily

assimilable by your body than what you get from eating flesh. The

problem with our diets is we are getting too much protein and the wrong

kind to boot. Then we denature it by cooking it rendering it toxic to

our bodies and useless as far as nutrition goes.

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Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

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Pugh wrote:

> Don, and other raw food consumers.

>

> This is a totally new concept for me. I've heard of vegetarian food,

> and I

> eat salads and fruit raw, but I cannot understand how someone can exist on

> raw food.

>

> Could you give some idea of what you would typically eat in a day?

>

> TIA,

> and the K9's (who eat raw but won't share!)

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Hi ,

Look around you at nature. Notice anything unusual? There is no other

species out there cooking and q'ing up their meals besides us humans.

Raw food is live living food full of nutrients and enzymes that our

bodies need to rebuild, repair and replenish used up raw materials. We

cannot get these from any other source other than raw food.

Raw tabbouli, essene bread, flax crackers, fresh fruits, salads,

sprouted wheat salad with sprouted seeds in it and fresh vegetables. You

can make raw soups with either vegetables or fruits. The possibilities

are endless. The problem we all face when going raw is how to prepare

without cooking. This does take time to overcome this thought pattern.

Once you do, it is very easy to make raw meals on a daily basis. No

different that making cooked meals and much better for you. There are

lots of raw food sites now on the web that have tons of raw food recipes

from entrees to desserts, soups, breads, etc. All you need are a

dehydrator, blender, food processor, some sharp knives and a little

ingenuity. You can create some seriously delicious masterpieces. The

dehydrator is a must though. You will be dehydrating your breads and

crackers at 105 F or less to keep the enzymes alive and the nutrients

intact. Other gadgets exist that make certain tasks easier. Just take

anything you cook and see the recipe as basically the same but uncooked.

You will figure out how to do it.

Boil a quart of distilled water, turn the heat off and add your spices

to it and let them steep. When the water is just tepid add in your fresh

veggies and voila, raw soup with seasoning. Very good with zuchinni by

the way.

When I first went raw I was very concerned that I was going to starve

for lack of foods to eat. Ha!!! Was I wrong. The foods taste so much

better than cooked too. Full of true flavor just as nature intended.

Unless you have been a vegetarian or vegan for awhile I would suggest

that you don't just jump into eating raw though. I does tend to release

toxins from the body.

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Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

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, I ate an almost totally raw diet for a year. I was never hungry and ate as much as I wanted. I lost 25# in the first three weeks and it never came back.

You can eat anything you want that can be eaten in its raw state. Fruits, nuts, vegetables, sprouts, salads....I also ate beef and raw clams and oysters. I would start my morning off with a large glass of tepid water with the juice of a lemon and two drops of stevia....then about an hour later I'd have a big bowl of watermelon. Believe it or not, that held me until lunch, when I'd have a salad, usually with avocado because of its substance. If I got hungry in the afternoon I'd have a small handful of raw almonds or pecans. Dinner was usually a stir-fry of some sort, lots of veggies....not cooked, really, but just warmed.

A good site is http://www.thegardendiet.com/.

It's really a very simple and easy way to eat, and you feel great!

Sharyn

From: Pugh [mailto:gramlin@...] Could you give some idea of what you would typically eat in a day?

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Every food has protein in it. If you eat the food raw, that protein is just about 100% available to the body. The only reason "modern science" says we need so many grams of protein daily is because cooked protein is not bioavailable, so you have to eat a ton of it to have enough. You need a lot less if it's raw.

Sharyn

From: KLSIRDDOGS@... [mailto:KLSIRDDOGS@...]

My biggest problem with this way of eating (for people) is how to get enough protein in the diet.

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