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Just so we don't backslide into an earlier discussion about this being

a raw food list, let me state that this list is very much for health

awareness, herbs and such. Raw foodism is no different than vegan,

vegetarian etc. We accomodate all makes and models. Please don't anyone

take offense and get all shook up.

If anyone is interested in Raw Foodism, Fruitarianism, Breatharianism,

Veganism, Vegetarianism, etc then I am sure we can accomodate and

provide the necessary information, recommendations etc. I do realize

that not everyone is ready to give up eating flesh. I realize that not

everyone is ready to give up eating cooked food. I do realize that some

are and they are reaching out trying to understand. We are all on this

planet together working on healing ourselves and our loved ones the best

way we can imagine. Not everyone is ready for raw food yet. It took me

many years before I was. I will say that I have never felt better than I

do when I eat all raw. If I should <gasp> backslide and eat a cooked

potatoe or some pasta I can immediately tell that it was the wrong thing

for me to eat. We all evolve at our own pace and that is as it should

be. So if Guido wants to eat a raw cow I might suggest that he go out

into the pasture and practice it properly. Hehehehe Sorry . That, by

the way, would be the best way to eat your meat. While it is still

kicking. You will get all the enzymes for sure that way. Or eat it right

after you butcher it.

Sorry folks, didn't mean to be quite that graphic. May peace be with us

all in our quests and on our paths to our futures.

--

Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

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Hi Francesca:

Sites like that one may be useful for recipes - if you can sort out

those that are healthy and not loaded with calories from those that

aren't (coconut as one example). The problem I have with them is

that they make a whole long list of categorical statements and

provide absolutely no serious scientific support for them.

The kind of statements I am thinking of are things like: " Cooked

foods cannot create true health because they are missing some very

vital elements needed by the body for its optimal functioning; things

like enzymes, oxygen, hormones, phytochemicals, bio-electrical energy

and life-force. " So where is the evidence for all this?

(For a start, did no one tell her about oxidation and ***ANTI***-

oxidants? And does she not realize that 20% of the air we all

breathe, and 89% of the water we all consume, is oxygen?)

............ and there are other places to find recipes.

Rodney.

>

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I looked into the raw food diet after reading that Walford

> > follows a 75% raw vegan diet. The other 25% is cooked, and I

> > understand that this is by volume. My conclusion is that anyone

> > venturing into a 100% raw food diet should proceed with extreme

> > caution. 100% raw may be a good temporary (1 month?) method for

> > breaking away from the standard American diet, but long-term

> > adherence easily results in nutritional deficiencies. Anyone

> > seriously contemplating such a path should read the scientific

> > articles and personal experiences collected on the website

> > www.beyondveg.com. I decided that a completely raw approach was

not

> > the optimal diet for me (you may be different!) based on the

> > following:

> >

> > 1. With calorie restriction, I find that I need a significant

> > amount of protein to keep my energy levels up and feel satiated.

It

> > would be very difficult for me to achieve this on a 100% raw vegan

> > diet.

> >

> > 2. Many of the approaches advocated by raw food gurus contain

> > inordinate amounts of sugar in the form of fresh fruits, agave

> > nectar, honey, and dried fruits. My family has a history of

> > diabetes, and I worry that such a high sugar diet would be

harmful to

> > me.

> >

> > 3. Many of the approaches are also very high fat in the form

of

> > nuts, avocados, coconuts, olive oil, cacao nuts, etc. The gourmet

> > preparations in the raw books look like caloric nightmares!

> >

> > 4. The gourmet preparations rely substantially on the use of

> > dehydrators to make all types of breads, juicers, and blenders.

This

> > might be nice for a change of pace, but it violates the

volumetrics

> > satiety principles, namely that water-filled foods, whole fruit,

and

> > chunky soups are more satisfying than dry foods, juice, and

purees.

> >

> > All that being said, I have found some interesting preparations

that

> > allow me to incorporate more raw vegetables into my diet. One of

my

> > favorites is raw marinated greens. The recipe is from Rhio:

> > http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/home/home_a.html. I have also gained

> > inspiration from some of the psychological struggles that raw

> > foodists detail in their blogs. Rhio has some nice pointers on

her

> > website about the importance of a positive mind set for anti-

aging.

> > Here is a link http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/home/home_a.html.

Because

> > of the satiating nature of raw fruits and vegetables and the fact

> > that many raw fruits and vegetables lose some of their vitamin

> > content during cooking, I think we can learn some great

techniques

> > from the raw foodists. As with anything else, take what works and

> > leave the rest. Just my thoughts!

> >

> > It's spring – drink some water, get some sunshine, and eat your

leafy

> > greens!

> >

> >

> >

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Rodney and Francesca:

I do not endorse or support this approach, but a poster expressed an

interest the other day, and I hoped that my insights might be

useful. You are absolutely correct that many raw food websites,

including Rhio's, are chock full of non-scientific theories and rants

and products that they are hawking. Some of the approaches are down

right dangerous. That's why anyone looking into this should proceed

with caution and use the critical thinking and evaluation skills that

many on this list seem to possess.

I look forward to continuing to learn from all of you.

> >

> > >

> > > Hi everyone,

> > >

> > > I looked into the raw food diet after reading that Walford

> > > follows a 75% raw vegan diet. The other 25% is cooked, and I

> > > understand that this is by volume. My conclusion is that anyone

> > > venturing into a 100% raw food diet should proceed with extreme

> > > caution. 100% raw may be a good temporary (1 month?) method for

> > > breaking away from the standard American diet, but long-term

> > > adherence easily results in nutritional deficiencies. Anyone

> > > seriously contemplating such a path should read the scientific

> > > articles and personal experiences collected on the website

> > > www.beyondveg.com. I decided that a completely raw approach

was

> not

> > > the optimal diet for me (you may be different!) based on the

> > > following:

> > >

> > > 1. With calorie restriction, I find that I need a

significant

> > > amount of protein to keep my energy levels up and feel

satiated.

> It

> > > would be very difficult for me to achieve this on a 100% raw

vegan

> > > diet.

> > >

> > > 2. Many of the approaches advocated by raw food gurus

contain

> > > inordinate amounts of sugar in the form of fresh fruits, agave

> > > nectar, honey, and dried fruits. My family has a history of

> > > diabetes, and I worry that such a high sugar diet would be

> harmful to

> > > me.

> > >

> > > 3. Many of the approaches are also very high fat in the

form

> of

> > > nuts, avocados, coconuts, olive oil, cacao nuts, etc. The

gourmet

> > > preparations in the raw books look like caloric nightmares!

> > >

> > > 4. The gourmet preparations rely substantially on the use

of

> > > dehydrators to make all types of breads, juicers, and

blenders.

> This

> > > might be nice for a change of pace, but it violates the

> volumetrics

> > > satiety principles, namely that water-filled foods, whole

fruit,

> and

> > > chunky soups are more satisfying than dry foods, juice, and

> purees.

> > >

> > > All that being said, I have found some interesting preparations

> that

> > > allow me to incorporate more raw vegetables into my diet. One

of

> my

> > > favorites is raw marinated greens. The recipe is from Rhio:

> > > http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/home/home_a.html. I have also gained

> > > inspiration from some of the psychological struggles that raw

> > > foodists detail in their blogs. Rhio has some nice pointers on

> her

> > > website about the importance of a positive mind set for anti-

> aging.

> > > Here is a link http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/home/home_a.html.

> Because

> > > of the satiating nature of raw fruits and vegetables and the

fact

> > > that many raw fruits and vegetables lose some of their vitamin

> > > content during cooking, I think we can learn some great

> techniques

> > > from the raw foodists. As with anything else, take what works

and

> > > leave the rest. Just my thoughts!

> > >

> > > It's spring – drink some water, get some sunshine, and eat your

> leafy

> > > greens!

> > >

> > >

> > >

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