Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 , It is my understanding that the phrase " strengthen the immune system " means to make the immune system stronger so that it can fight diseases, including CLL. What strengthens disease is a WEAK immune system, such as that which we with CLL have. Strengthening the immune system would fight CLL. Carolyn --- jb50192@... wrote: > Now, here comes the problem. Antioxidants also > strengthen the immune system. > And whether or not this is a good idea has never > been answered to my > satisfaction. The typical oncologist will tell you > to take one good multi vitamin a > day, and that's it. > > Do we want to strengthen our immune system, which, > after all, is our disease? > Or do we not want to do this? > > I think especially in the case of an autoimmune > disease (AIHA - autoimmune > hemolytic anemia) it would not be a good idea. > That's why you take Prednisone if > your immune system is over active, killing things it > should not be killing. > > Papers written on the subject also are not clear, > and not in agreement. > > A good subject. Lets hear from some of you gurus. > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 We've already had a discussion on the immune system before. I've expressed my opinion that coconut oil supports immune function through its antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal, and antiparasitic properties. It reduces the number of troublesome microorganisms in the body lessening the burden on the immune system. This antimicrobial effect works systemically as evidenced by clinical studies and reports indicating that coconut oil can shorten the duration and reduce symptoms of various infections such as pneumonia, candidiasis, influenza, herpes, bladder infections, AIDS, etc. Bruce From: Coconut Oil [mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of Dolores Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 12:11 PM Coconut Oil Subject: Re: Coconut oil, the Brain, epilepsy, Alzheimer's, etc. Thank you Dr. Fife! I wish you were able to participate more often. While you are here could you please weigh in on the role (if any) that coconut oil has on the immune system? It was my understanding that it's similarity to breast milk would provide similar immune properties. With Regards, Dee > > > > > > I am rather new at using coconut oil and new to the group. My daughter > is 49 and she has MS, fibromyalga and encephilitis. Her main problem is the > seizures she has with the encephlitis I know my spelling on these is horrid. > Does anyone have any info on how coconut oil can help? > > > I would appreciate it very much. Jan from AZ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Thank you Bruce. All the Best, Dee > > > > > > > > I am rather new at using coconut oil and new to the group. My daughter > > is 49 and she has MS, fibromyalga and encephilitis. Her main problem is > the > > seizures she has with the encephlitis I know my spelling on these is > horrid. > > Does anyone have any info on how coconut oil can help? > > > > I would appreciate it very much. Jan from AZ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 2011-03-14 2:40 PM, Bruce Fife wrote: > We've already had a discussion on the immune system before. I've > expressed my opinion that coconut oil supports immune function > through its antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal, and antiparasitic > properties. By that argument, you could say that any pharmaceutical drug 'supports immune function', but the truth is pharmaceutical antibiotics are devastating to the immune system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 I think " shortened duration and reduced symptoms " would be the subject of subjective reports, as opposed to a controlled scenario that rigorous investigation would imply. Actual research using proper methods turned up spotty results, even with regard to the HIV treatment. That's what I was trying to impress people with - the accurate statement is that the results are spotty in-vivo. It can kill germs " in certain circumstances " which is more or less the wording used by Dayrit in his research on HIV, which had spotty results we discussed in the group a few months ago. I'd just like to make sure we aren't fostering myths here from " within the ranks " . The evidence supports the health food being an asset in certain circumstances, but not the contention that coconut oil is an immune system enhancer. The spotty results should prevent one from saying coconut oil will probably cure their infection. all good, Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 DR. Fife, Does your book speficly have instruction on the use of coconut oil to help a young men's health, he is always sick. Gerardo Barriga From: Bruce Fife <bruce@...> Subject: Immune system Coconut Oil Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 6:40 PM  We've already had a discussion on the immune system before. I've expressed my opinion that coconut oil supports immune function through its antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal, and antiparasitic properties. It reduces the number of troublesome microorganisms in the body lessening the burden on the immune system. This antimicrobial effect works systemically as evidenced by clinical studies and reports indicating that coconut oil can shorten the duration and reduce symptoms of various infections such as pneumonia, candidiasis, influenza, herpes, bladder infections, AIDS, etc. Bruce From: Coconut Oil [mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of Dolores Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 12:11 PM Coconut Oil Subject: Re: Coconut oil, the Brain, epilepsy, Alzheimer's, etc. Thank you Dr. Fife! I wish you were able to participate more often. While you are here could you please weigh in on the role (if any) that coconut oil has on the immune system? It was my understanding that it's similarity to breast milk would provide similar immune properties. With Regards, Dee > > > > > > I am rather new at using coconut oil and new to the group. My daughter > is 49 and she has MS, fibromyalga and encephilitis. Her main problem is the > seizures she has with the encephlitis I know my spelling on these is horrid. > Does anyone have any info on how coconut oil can help? > > > I would appreciate it very much. Jan from AZ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Duncan, What do you consider an immune enhancer to be - by definition and by actual examples? How do you define colloidal silver? thanks elaine > > > We've already had a discussion on the immune system before. I've > > > expressed my opinion that coconut oil supports immune function > > > through its antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal, and antiparasitic > > > properties. > > > > By that argument, you could say that any pharmaceutical drug 'supports > > immune function', but the truth is pharmaceutical antibiotics are > > devastating to the immune system. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Please don't mangle my properly formatted replies... On 2011-03-14 6:39 PM, elaine1231 wrote: > Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@...> wrote: >> On 2011-03-14 2:40 PM, Bruce Fife wrote: >>> We've already had a discussion on the immune system before. I've >>> expressed my opinion that coconut oil supports immune function >>> through its antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal, and antiparasitic >>> properties. >> By that argument, you could say that any pharmaceutical drug >> 'supports immune function', but the truth is pharmaceutical >> antibiotics are devastating to the immune system. > Why are antibiotics devastating to the immune system? http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=antibiotics+devastating+to+the+immune+system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 You haven't answered her question. Dee > >>> We've already had a discussion on the immune system before. I've > >>> expressed my opinion that coconut oil supports immune function > >>> through its antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal, and antiparasitic > >>> properties. > > >> By that argument, you could say that any pharmaceutical drug > >> 'supports immune function', but the truth is pharmaceutical > >> antibiotics are devastating to the immune system. > > > Why are antibiotics devastating to the immune system? > > http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=antibiotics+devastating+to+the+immune+system > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 On 2011-03-15 10:33 AM, Dolores wrote: > Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@...> wrote: >> Please don't mangle my properly formatted replies... >> On 2011-03-14 6:39 PM, elaine1231 wrote: >>> Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@> wrote: >>>>> On 2011-03-14 2:40 PM, Bruce Fife wrote: >>>>> We've already had a discussion on the immune system before. I've >>>>> expressed my opinion that coconut oil supports immune function >>>>> through its antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal, and antiparasitic >>>>> properties. >>>> By that argument, you could say that any pharmaceutical drug >>>> 'supports immune function', but the truth is pharmaceutical >>>> antibiotics are devastating to the immune system. >>> Why are antibiotics devastating to the immune system? >> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=antibiotics+devastating+to+the+immune+system > You haven't answered her question. Ummm, yes, I did... that link provides tons of links that directly answer her question, as well as showing why her question was an example of how lazy people can be, wasting other people's time asking question they can easily find the answer to themselves with a tiny bit of effort... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 colds can be a sign of vitamin deficiency - google vitamin A and vitamin d3 deficiency low vitamin A is supposed to be more common among hypothyroid people chris > > The whole time I had " ME " (5 years), I caught one cold and also had the flu once - I remember both of these because they completely knocked me flat! Since I've become well again, I've caught everything going. Since last winter, I've had five colds and two stomach bugs! It seems really strange that now I'm " healthy " , I've become some sort of magnet for illnesses, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Hi Jen, I'm glad you are doing so well. Actually, what you describe is a common phenomenon with people who have ME/CFS (whatever that is!). There was a period of about 5 year in my illness when I was 'invincible'. For example, I visited a friend one day who coughed and sneezed on me all day and never caught anything. Some of my ME/CFS friends theorize that the immune system is in so much stress it goes into hyperdrive, but I don't know whether there is a scientific basis for that. Anyway, we jokingly congratulate each other when we do recover somewhat and start falling ill. If you are getting more than your fair share of coughs and colds then I would take measures to support the immune system. Do you take vitamin C and vitamin D? An important part of the immune system is the digestive system, so check you are not suffering from any kind of dysbiosis (bad bugs in the gut) or lack of stomach acid. There's quite a lot of information about this on Dr Myhill's website. Miriam > The whole time I had " ME " (5 years), I caught one cold and also had the flu once - I remember both of these because they completely knocked me flat! Since I've become well again, I've caught everything going. Since last winter, I've had five colds and two stomach bugs! It seems really strange that now I'm " healthy " , I've become some sort of magnet for illnesses, and I can't find any explanation of why this would happen anywhere. I thought it might just be that there were more viruses going round this year, but I live with my boyfriend who hasn't caught anything I've had. Has this happened to anyone else? Any advice would be much appreciated - I had nine weeks off sick from work last year and would prefer never to have to call in sick again in my life if I could help it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Hi Jen, I am not an expert but I was wondering if your adrenals needed a boost.! low adrenals may be the cause of a lot of infections. Angel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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