Guest guest Posted September 22, 2000 Report Share Posted September 22, 2000 Marie, Breathing actually strenghtens the lungs. Emphysema has weakened them, but many use breathing machines (forgot the technical name of them) ah, " ventilators " at home, where they do deep breathing medications...with strenghtens the lungs. Deep breathing helps increase lung capasity and helps make it easier for the lungs to work. So, a breathing like LifeLift, which is not as intense as BF, would work well for a person with lung problems. Even if its not LL, doing deep breathing helps immensely for lung patients. Hope this helps. Tig > > emphysema. > > is there any comments or testimonials that this program can help a person in > this condition? or is it too severe of a program?? > > > Marie< knows a wheelchair bound person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2001 Report Share Posted March 17, 2001 I've just gotta say this. It actually happened to me. After smoking for 32 years, hurting in my lungs upon a deep breath, seeing black marks all around the perimeter of my lungs on the X-ray, the Doc saying " Obie, you've got a small case of EMPH " , I'm glad to say I bought an Ozone machine, an Alpine; it has 3 ozone plates and 1 negative ion antenae. I turned it on at night as I slept. I'm telling you, after months of ozone for 8 hours, the next X-ray showed no black outline on my lungs. Miracle? I think so. I feel like I have the lungs of a young person, never have pain, love to breathe deep and once in still turn the Alpine on in my bedroom. Obie. Re: Re: hdot startup > > > List & Manson > > A lady friend of mine has been told that she has emphysema in her lungs, > she's 76 years old. > > She lives in Arizona and her family are preparing for her death. I just > talked to her 3-14-01 and she said she was feeling poorly but she didn't > sound like she was going to die ! > > Isn't there something that can be done for her ? > > Any suggestions > > Larry > > http://Community.webtv.net/Library-Info-/MicroscopicKillers > http://Community.webtv.net/Legal-Pages-/OURCONSTITUTIONAL > =+ > Ecclesiastes: 1. v. 9 > Believing Will Get You There....God Bless > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2001 Report Share Posted March 17, 2001 Also > have read that one oz. of 35% h202 added to one gal. water in a > vaporizer run at nite in the bedroom helps. This is also great for > fighting colds and flu. I wonder if this oz. of 35% H2O2 could be added to gal. of colloidal silver and run in cool mist type vaporizer? I've read where breathing in the colloidal silver is especially good for asthma, bronchitis, colds & flu. Would there be any bad effects from mixing H2O2 and colloidal silver? Thanks in advance! Billie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2001 Report Share Posted March 18, 2001 OBIE wrote: I'm telling you, after months of ozone for 8 hours, the next > X-ray showed no black outline on my lungs. Miracle? I think so. I feel > like I have the lungs of a young person, never have pain, love to breathe > deep and once in still turn the Alpine on in my bedroom. Obie. > Dear Obie, It's no miracle. I have seen other posts with almost the identical information as yours. I think I saved a few on my other computer. Will try to give you them tomorrow. Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Duncan, I've read your replies for people with COPD. Would you have anything different to add for emphysema? Regards, Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Hi Craig, emphysema has the same treatable oxidative stress and airway restriction that COPD does and emphysema is usually part of the COPD diagnosis. The first time I saw COPD reduce with vitamins it was with 1,500 mg vitamin C, 200 mcg selenium, a couple of pouches of undenatured whey isolate and a b-complex. Today I would suggest also at least 5,000 units vitamin D3, 800 mg magnesium, 50 mg zinc, a tsp or more of DHA-rich krill or wild salmon oil (not flax oil) antioxidant supplements and a good mineral like shilajit or fulvic/humic acids. all good, Duncan > > Duncan, > I've read your replies for people with COPD. Would you have anything different to add for emphysema? > Regards, > Craig > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Thanks Duncan. I'll pass this on to my friend, however I don't have the same disdain for flax oil as you do. I'm a proponent of the Budwig Protocol and have seen success with it and have been a witness on their board daily for too long to discount it as you do. Yes, I have read your revision and I feel you're missing the point that the Bio-Chemist Johanna was using the oil for. In my mind, the fish oil or DHA would have another functiion separate from the Flax, but that's another discussion. Thanks, though, for the advice on the other supplements. I just hope I can get him to quit smoking! Regards, Craig > > Hi Craig, emphysema has the same treatable oxidative stress and airway restriction that COPD does and emphysema is usually part of the COPD diagnosis. > > The first time I saw COPD reduce with vitamins it was with 1,500 mg vitamin C, 200 mcg selenium, a couple of pouches of undenatured whey isolate and a b-complex. Today I would suggest also at least 5,000 units vitamin D3, 800 mg magnesium, 50 mg zinc, a tsp or more of DHA-rich krill or wild salmon oil (not flax oil) antioxidant supplements and a good mineral like shilajit or fulvic/humic acids. > > all good, > > Duncan > > --- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Zhong qi deficiency. Find a good acupuncturist. On 3/5/2011 11:36 PM, crgstef wrote: > Thanks Duncan. I'll pass this on to my friend, however I don't have the same disdain for flax oil as you do. I'm a proponent of the Budwig Protocol and have seen success with it and have been a witness on their board daily for too long to discount it as you do. Yes, I have read your revision and I feel you're missing the point that the Bio-Chemist Johanna was using the oil for. In my mind, the fish oil or DHA would have another functiion separate from the Flax, but that's another discussion. > Thanks, though, for the advice on the other supplements. I just hope I can get him to quit smoking! > > Regards, > > Craig > > >> Hi Craig, emphysema has the same treatable oxidative stress and airway restriction that COPD does and emphysema is usually part of the COPD diagnosis. >> >> The first time I saw COPD reduce with vitamins it was with 1,500 mg vitamin C, 200 mcg selenium, a couple of pouches of undenatured whey isolate and a b-complex. Today I would suggest also at least 5,000 units vitamin D3, 800 mg magnesium, 50 mg zinc, a tsp or more of DHA-rich krill or wild salmon oil (not flax oil) antioxidant supplements and a good mineral like shilajit or fulvic/humic acids. >> >> all good, >> >> Duncan >> >> ---> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Craig, I used to be on an e-list for the Budwig protocol, and also read about it on other health lists and websites. Over time I discovered that some people were using Budwig along with allopathic cancer treatments (radiation, chemo, and/or surgery). That got me to question the efficacy of the Budwig protocol. I also noted some active people on the list ceased making any posts. At first I assumed they were cured of cancer and no longer were on the list. But I later discovered that several of them had died from their cancers. So I have no idea how efficacious the original Budwig protocol actually is, as compared to Duncan's revision. As I do not have cancer that I am aware of, I am more interested in prevention than cure at this time. Duncan's use of whey instead of cottage cheese greatly appealed to me. To me, cottage cheese feels repulsive in my mouth. Very hard for me to take daily. I have been using Duncan's revision of the Budwig protocol since 2007 (or maybe a bit earlier). Alobar PS I have never known a smoker who did not die from their smoking if they did not quit. I read somewhere that Co-enzyme Q10 can help someone quit. As can one of the B vitamins (but I forget which one). PPS " . . . health officials should suggest smokers supplement their diet with key nutrients and vitamins that become depleted due to nicotine`s health effects. These include vitamin C with bioflavonoids (about 5,000 to 20,000 mg per day), at least 200 mg of Coenzyme Q10 (among other things, this helps to flush the body of the approximately 4,000 chemical toxins inhaled with each and every cigarette puff) and grape seed extract (studies on grape seed extract report that it has chemopreventive benefits; take the dosage as recommended on label). " http://www.naturalnews.com/027680_smoking_bladder_cancer.html On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 11:36 PM, crgstef <crgstef@...> wrote: > Thanks Duncan. I'll pass this on to my friend, however I don't have the same disdain for flax oil as you do. I'm a proponent of the Budwig Protocol and have seen success with it and have been a witness on their board daily for too long to discount it as you do. Yes, I have read your revision and I feel you're missing the point that the Bio-Chemist Johanna was using the oil for. In my mind, the fish oil or DHA would have another functiion separate from the Flax, but that's another discussion. > Thanks, though, for the advice on the other supplements. I just hope I can get him to quit smoking! > > Regards, > > Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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