tramadol

[Guest guest]

Tami,

That's fantastic news! I hope it continues to work for you. I know

it can also be addicting, but not as addicting as other drugs, so it

is an improvement, I'm sure! I'm just so happy it is working for you.

Lori

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[Guest guest]

Tramadol is great and it makes you feel great too - you can stay awake and motivated when you are otherwise tired. However, just a note of caution - I find if I take more than one a day ( if I have a very bad pain for a long time, such as a throat infection ) when I come off the dosage I get a really bad withdrawl effect - I feel the world is a terrible depressing scary place and I think for some people they might even feel briefly suicidal, this goes in 24-48hrs and can also have some side effects such as shivering and feeling ill. So just becareful and if you do get the withdrawl effects just know that is only the drug. But, for me if kept to one a day (50mg) or less there are no side effects or addiction at all.

Chris.

-----Original Message-----From: samters [mailto:samters ]On Behalf Of Tami KlumpyanSent: 27 May 2006 22:54samters Subject: tramadol

The tramadol is working for the headaches. The other nite when I put my head on the pillow, it felt like a feather rather than a brick. I'm so excited. Thanks to all for your help and suggestions. I'm allowed to take up to 2 a day. I actually worked in the field till 8 at night the other night. Wow!!!

Waiting for the mold result. I had all colors in the petrie dish, dark green, black, white and reddish orange.

Have a wonderful day everyone! Tami

[Guest guest]

hi Flip

Tramadol is good stuff, for renal colic/stones, migranes, moderate pain

management. It is available in IM and PO.

It is quick acting and non drowsy.  I have used it before with little side

effects. KEEP IT in your inventory.

Sounds like the physician was quick to diagnose, especially with previous

history of AC sep. Go for the second opinion.

hope this helps

later gator

dennis

Tramadol

Greetings all:

Tramadol ? This one I have not used any advice or experience with this Rx it was

prescribed for patient I treated for AC separation OR shingles (pick one)

Seriously the fastest MD diagnosis I have ever witnessed ....4 minutes from

admission to discharge " total time " with no x-ray to rule out AC partial

separation and with a PMHX of AC separation 3 days before .... appears that 2

pustules are the definitive Dx with Shingles ... this was a weird call. Needless

to say I have sought a real MDs input.

Flip .....

Thanks to Larry/Rob I was going to remove Toradol from my inventory, but will

keep it for renal colic now.

cheers

Wilf

[Guest guest]

wilf,

Toradol also awsome for hemroids and any other serious swelling pain

cheers

Tom

@...: w.mackie@...: Sun, 12 Oct

2008 10:24:09 -0600Subject: Tramadol

Greetings all:Tramadol ? This one I have not used any advice or experience with

this Rx it was prescribed for patient I treated for AC separation OR shingles

(pick one) Seriously the fastest MD diagnosis I have ever witnessed ....4

minutes from admission to discharge " total time " with no x-ray to rule out AC

partial separation and with a PMHX of AC separation 3 days before .... appears

that 2 pustules are the definitive Dx with Shingles ... this was a weird call.

Needless to say I have sought a real MDs input.Flip .....Thanks to Larry/Rob I

was going to remove Toradol from my inventory, but will keep it for renal colic

now.cheersWilf

[Guest guest]

Wilf,

Toradol is useful for a broad spectrum of pain. It gets a lot of use in

hospital for post-op pain.

It seems to have a synergistic effect with opioids, so you may find that your

patient with neuro/musculoskeletal pain who isnt getting quite the relief from

codeine/demerol/MS etc benefits from some toradol rather than upping the dose of

narcs.

Interestingly, my mother who suffers severe leg pain from diabetic neuropathy

says PO toradol is very helpful when taken with her morphine.

It is also a potent anti-pyretic. Think of it as super-ibuprofen. The biggest

drawback is it is not very easy on the stomach.

----- Start Original Message -----

Sent: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:24:09 -0600

From: " Wilf Mackie " <w.mackie@...>

< >

Subject: Tramadol

>

> Greetings all:

Tramadol ? This one I have not used any advice or experience with this Rx

it was prescribed for patient I treated for AC separation OR shingles

(pick one)

Seriously the fastest MD diagnosis I have ever witnessed ....4 minutes

from admission to discharge " total time " with no x-ray to rule out AC

partial separation and with a PMHX of AC separation 3 days before ....

appears that 2 pustules are the definitive Dx with Shingles ... this was

a weird call. Needless to say I have sought a real MDs input.

Flip .....

Thanks to Larry/Rob I was going to remove Toradol from my inventory, but

will keep it for renal colic now.

cheers

Wilf

[Guest guest]

Tom

Toradol for piles?????

Why not use cocco butter and lemon juice???

just kidding,  don't try this?

later gators

Dennis

[Remotemedics. co.uk] Tramadol

Greetings all:Tramadol ? This one I have not used any advice or experience with

this Rx it was prescribed for patient I treated for AC separation OR shingles

(pick one) Seriously the fastest MD diagnosis I have ever witnessed ....4

minutes from admission to discharge " total time " with no x-ray to rule out AC

partial separation and with a PMHX of AC separation 3 days before .... appears

that 2 pustules are the definitive Dx with Shingles ... this was a weird call.

Needless to say I have sought a real MDs input.Flip .....Thanks to Larry/Rob I

was going to remove Toradol from my inventory, but will keep it for renal colic

now.cheersWilf[ Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Guest guest]

Tramadol is the opiate you prescribe when you don't want to prescribe

an opiate.

It's thought to be almost as stong as more traditional opiates (Perc,

Vics, etc) but with less of the usual side effects. Most patients

report fair to poor pain relief with it, in my experience.

I see docs offering it when they want stronger pain management than

NSAIDs but the pt still has to remain functional such as working

around machinery or such, and for drug seekers as an alternative to

oxycodone or similar.

LT

On 10/12/08, Wilf Mackie <w.mackie@...> wrote:

> Greetings all:

>

> Tramadol ? This one I have not used any advice or experience with this Rx it

was prescribed for patient I treated for AC separation OR shingles (pick one)

> Seriously the fastest MD diagnosis I have ever witnessed ....4 minutes from

admission to discharge " total time " with no x-ray to rule out AC partial

separation and with a PMHX of AC separation 3 days before .... appears that 2

pustules are the definitive Dx with Shingles ... this was a weird call. Needless

to say I have sought a real MDs input.

>

> Flip .....

>

> Thanks to Larry/Rob I was going to remove Toradol from my inventory, but will

keep it for renal colic now.

>

> cheers

> Wilf

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Folks,

See attatched profiles for each med.

Some inacuracies here.

I have attatched aprofile of eachdrug. TRAMADOL is a n OPIATE SUBSTITUTE and

workes quite well for moderate pain in folks you would give a

hydrocodone(Vikodin ). It has a 37.5 mg. 50, and 75 mg dose ing. I have used all

post operatively with success and no narcotic like side effect. good choice.

TORODOL is a NONSTEROIDAL ANTI INFLAMATORY that is similar to all the

others.Some studiessay had no advantage over simple ibuprofen 8oo mg except it

will act faster.Cautions as with any other Non -Steroidal  my anecdotal

experience is that it is quite superior in the patient with renal colic and in

ovarian cysts or other abdominal pain where a prostoglandin inhibiter is needed.

Both are good for the drug box if you can have them

Thanks,

Gerry Keenan, PA-C, MMS

> Greetings all:

>

> Tramadol ? This one I have not used any advice or experience with this Rx it

was prescribed for patient I treated for AC separation OR shingles (pick one)

> Seriously the fastest MD diagnosis I have ever witnessed ....4 minutes from

admission to discharge " total time " with no x-ray to rule out AC partial

separation and with a PMHX of AC separation 3 days before .... appears that 2

pustules are the definitive Dx with Shingles ... this was a weird call. Needless

to say I have sought a real MDs input.

>

> Flip .....

>

> Thanks to Larry/Rob I was going to remove Toradol from my inventory, but will

keep it for renal colic now.

>

> cheers

> Wilf

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would very definitely not subscribe to the practice of allowing patients on

Tramadol to still operate machinery or perform critical work functions until the

patient's level of tolerance has been observed first hand. It is notorious for

causing a euphoric mental state that often surpasses that of the narcotics.

While the side-effects are sometimes less than with the opiates, this is

certainly not the rule, and the results are highly variable from patient to

patient. While some patients will report no drowsy effects or decreased mental

function, others are clearly whacked out of their minds by common therapeutic

dosages.

Rob

[Guest guest]

Hi

YOU are correct.  I was wrong thinking that I was talking about torodol but was

talking about Tramadol instead.

Sometime drugs sounds similar but have very different chemical properties.  

Thanks for setting me and other folks straight.

Later gator

Dennis

Re: Tramadol

Hi Folks,

See attatched profiles for each med.

Some inacuracies here.

I have attatched aprofile of eachdrug. TRAMADOL is a n OPIATE SUBSTITUTE and

workes quite well for moderate pain in folks you would give a hydrocodone(

Vikodin ). It has a 37.5 mg. 50, and 75 mg dose ing. I have used all post

operatively with success and no narcotic like side effect. good choice.

TORODOL is a NONSTEROIDAL ANTI INFLAMATORY that is similar to all the

others.Some studiessay had no advantage over simple ibuprofen 8oo mg except it

will act faster.Cautions as with any other Non -Steroidal  my anecdotal

experience is that it is quite superior in the patient with renal colic and in

ovarian cysts or other abdominal pain where a prostoglandin inhibiter is needed.

Both are good for the drug box if you can have them

Thanks,

Gerry Keenan, PA-C, MMS

> Greetings all:

>

> Tramadol ? This one I have not used any advice or experience with this Rx it

was prescribed for patient I treated for AC separation OR shingles (pick one)

> Seriously the fastest MD diagnosis I have ever witnessed ....4 minutes from

admission to discharge " total time " with no x-ray to rule out AC partial

separation and with a PMHX of AC separation 3 days before .... appears that 2

pustules are the definitive Dx with Shingles ... this was a weird call. Needless

to say I have sought a real MDs input.

>

> Flip .....

>

> Thanks to Larry/Rob I was going to remove Toradol from my inventory, but will

keep it for renal colic now.

>

> cheers

> Wilf

>

>

[Guest guest]

Rob:

Could you send me some, for personal field evaluation ?

j/k

Wilf

Re: Tramadol

I would very definitely not subscribe to the practice of allowing patients on

Tramadol to still operate machinery or perform critical work functions until the

patient's level of tolerance has been observed first hand. It is notorious for

causing a euphoric mental state that often surpasses that of the narcotics.

While the side-effects are sometimes less than with the opiates, this is

certainly not the rule, and the results are highly variable from patient to

patient. While some patients will report no drowsy effects or decreased mental

function, others are clearly whacked out of their minds by common therapeutic

dosages.

Rob

.

[Guest guest]

Good Advice for any medication or patient with pain Rob.

Gerry

From: rob.davis@... <rob.davis@...>

Subject: Re: Tramadol

Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 3:15 PM

I would very definitely not subscribe to the practice of allowing

patients on Tramadol to still operate machinery or perform critical work

functions until the patient's level of tolerance has been observed first hand.

It is notorious for causing a euphoric mental state that often surpasses that of

the narcotics. While the side-effects are sometimes less than with the opiates,

this is certainly not the rule, and the results are highly variable from patient

to patient. While some patients will report no drowsy effects or decreased

mental function, others are clearly whacked out of their minds by common

therapeutic dosages.

Rob

[Guest guest]

On 10/12/08, gerry keenan <gkeenanpa@...> wrote:

> Hi Folks,

> See attatched profiles for each med.

> Some inacuracies here.

> I have attatched aprofile of eachdrug. TRAMADOL is a n OPIATE

> SUBSTITUTE and workes quite well for moderate pain in folks you

> would give a hydrocodone(Vikodin ). It has a 37.5 mg. 50, and 75 mg

> dose ing. I have used all post operatively with success and no narcotic

> like side effect. good choice.

Hi Gerry. Ultram (tramadol) is one of those " tweener " drugs, as I see

it. It's not a true opiate, but the U.S. FDA describes it as a

" centrally acting synthetic opioid analgesic " and at least half of

it's analgesic effect is due to occupying one of the lesser opioid

receptors.

The book on it also lists all of the opiate-like side effects, but I

see little of that in the real world.

> TORODOL is a NONSTEROIDAL ANTI INFLAMATORY that is similar to all

> the others.Some studiessay had no advantage over simple ibuprofen 8oo

> mg except it will act faster.Cautions as with any other Non -Steroidal my

> anecdotal experience is that it is quite superior in the patient with renal

> colic and in ovarian cysts or other abdominal pain where a prostoglandin

> inhibiter is needed.

I've just never seen much from Toradol, or at least any more than one

can get from other NSAIDs like ibuprofen or naproxen. Maybe a bit

faster onset due to route. Toradol shines in the context of renal

colic, but I'm unimpressed with it for acute skeletal muscle or joint

pain.

It does have it's place to be sure, but I think it is far less

utilitarian that we thought it would be when it came out.

Just one opinion.

Best,

Larry

[Guest guest]

Good advice. And another reason, I think, to simply find and use a

better analgesic.

LT

On 10/12/08, rob.davis@... <rob.davis@...> wrote:

> I would very definitely not subscribe to the practice of allowing patients on

Tramadol to still operate machinery or perform critical work functions until the

patient's level of tolerance has been observed first hand. It is notorious for

causing a euphoric mental state that often surpasses that of the narcotics.

While the side-effects are sometimes less than with the opiates, this is

certainly not the rule, and the results are highly variable from patient to

patient. While some patients will report no drowsy effects or decreased mental

function, others are clearly whacked out of their minds by common therapeutic

dosages.

>

> Rob

>

>

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[Guest guest]

What type of pain does one take " tramadol " for...???

And what is like to experience withdrawal ???

From: <impoz.ru@...>Subject: Re: TRAMADOL Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 11:24 AMTiz' a tricky med to come off of. What I did at Dr's suggestion was cut the dose I was taking in half for about two weeks. Then take the half dosage every other day for two weeks. Then every 3 days for a couple of weeks and so on. It's a timely process and yes you are still apt to experience withdrawal but you should be able to keep it in check. Don't make the mistake of thinking Xanax, Valium or the like will lessen the withdrawal discomfort. You're just as apt to become dependent on them as well. Good luck.

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I still take it for back pain and I love it. It also has some mood elevating effects and people become dependent of it.

In a message dated 6/19/2009 6:53:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nathan.zedakah@... writes:

Hi all,Does anyone have experience of Tramadol, it has been prescribed to me for PN....Are there any contraindications?Any advice on how to manage its side effects...Thanks

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I had a hip replacement Sept. 2007. That went very very well. Tramadol was the Rx given for pain. Also another Rx with Tramadol in an "Ultracet ER" formula. I had some fainting/flushing issues with a one pill dose of Ultram ER. Stopped it. Then last March 2009, went dancing -1st time in 10 years, btw!!!- and bruised some hip tissue. Took 2 regular Tramadol one eve (label says take 1 - 2 ). Started major sweats, dizziness, weird hallucinations, then passed out cold fell back on my concrete floors. Thank God I had 2 movie guests to take me to the ER. Had a mild concussion and cracked tail bone. $22,000 hospital bill. Tramadol? No thanks! LOL---MattSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: PoWeRTX@...Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:55:07 EDT<nathan.zedakah@...>; < >Subject: Re: Tramadol I still take it for back pain and I love it. It also has some mood elevating effects and people become dependent of it. In a message dated 6/19/2009 6:53:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nathan.zedakahtiscali (DOT) co.uk writes: Hi all,Does anyone have experience of Tramadol, it has been prescribed to me for PN....Are there any contraindications?Any advice on how to manage its side effects...Thanks Dell Inspiron 15: Now starting at $349

[Guest guest]

I had a hip replacement Sept. 2007. That went very very well. Tramadol was the Rx given for pain. Also another Rx with Tramadol in an "Ultracet ER" formula. I had some fainting/flushing issues with a one pill dose of Ultram ER. Stopped it. Then last March 2009, went dancing -1st time in 10 years, btw!!!- and bruised some hip tissue. Took 2 regular Tramadol one eve (label says take 1 - 2 ). Started major sweats, dizziness, weird hallucinations, then passed out cold fell back on my concrete floors. Thank God I had 2 movie guests to take me to the ER. Had a mild concussion and cracked tail bone. $22,000 hospital bill. Tramadol? No thanks! LOL---MattSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: PoWeRTX@...Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:55:07 EDT<nathan.zedakah@...>; < >Subject: Re: Tramadol I still take it for back pain and I love it. It also has some mood elevating effects and people become dependent of it. In a message dated 6/19/2009 6:53:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nathan.zedakahtiscali (DOT) co.uk writes: Hi all,Does anyone have experience of Tramadol, it has been prescribed to me for PN....Are there any contraindications?Any advice on how to manage its side effects...Thanks Dell Inspiron 15: Now starting at $349

[Guest guest]

I take Tramadol as needed for joint pain as needed. I generally take it at night and it helps me sleep pain free. I only take one pill when needed.

Cowboy Larry

From: upshot4u@... <upshot4u@...>Subject: Re: TramadolPoWeRTX@..., , nathan.zedakah@...Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 8:34 AM

I had a hip replacement Sept. 2007. That went very very well. Tramadol was the Rx given for pain. Also another Rx with Tramadol in an "Ultracet ER" formula. I had some fainting/flushing issues with a one pill dose of Ultram ER. Stopped it. Then last March 2009, went dancing -1st time in 10 years, btw!!!- and bruised some hip tissue. Took 2 regular Tramadol one eve (label says take 1 - 2 ). Started major sweats, dizziness, weird hallucinations, then passed out cold fell back on my concrete floors. Thank God I had 2 movie guests to take me to the ER. Had a mild concussion and cracked tail bone. $22,000 hospital bill. Tramadol? No thanks! LOL---Matt

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From: PoWeRTXaol (DOT) comDate: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:55:07 EDT<nathan.zedakah@ tiscali.co. uk>; <@grou ps.com>Subject: Re: Tramadol

I still take it for back pain and I love it. It also has some mood elevating effects and people become dependent of it.

In a message dated 6/19/2009 6:53:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nathan.zedakah@ tiscali.co. uk writes:

Hi all,Does anyone have experience of Tramadol, it has been prescribed to me for PN....Are there any contraindications?Any advice on how to manage its side effects...Thanks

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What dose did you take? Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: upshot4u@...Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:34:04 +0000<PoWeRTX@...>; < >; <nathan.zedakah@...>Subject: Re: Tramadol I had a hip replacement Sept. 2007. That went very very well. Tramadol was the Rx given for pain. Also another Rx with Tramadol in an "Ultracet ER" formula. I had some fainting/flushing issues with a one pill dose of Ultram ER. Stopped it. Then last March 2009, went dancing -1st time in 10 years, btw!!!- and bruised some hip tissue. Took 2 regular Tramadol one eve (label says take 1 - 2 ). Started major sweats, dizziness, weird hallucinations, then passed out cold fell back on my concrete floors. Thank God I had 2 movie guests to take me to the ER. Had a mild concussion and cracked tail bone. $22,000 hospital bill. Tramadol? No thanks! LOL---MattSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: PoWeRTXaolDate: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:55:07 EDT<nathan.zedakahtiscali (DOT) co.uk>; < >Subject: Re: Tramadol I still take it for back pain and I love it. It also has some mood elevating effects and people become dependent of it. In a message dated 6/19/2009 6:53:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nathan.zedakahtiscali (DOT) co.uk writes: Hi all,Does anyone have experience of Tramadol, it has been prescribed to me for PN....Are there any contraindications?Any advice on how to manage its side effects.. .Thanks Dell Inspiron 15: Now starting at $349

[Guest guest]

It is a centrally acting anti-pain medication. Similar to narcotics, but not

nearly as potent and fewer side effects. Not physiologically addicting.

Some GI stuff and maybe a little constipatiion mostly.

Not really a heavy hitter.

Sanford

Sanford M. Gross, OD, FAAO

Associate Professor

Illinois College of Optometry

3241 South Michigan Ave

Chicago, Illinois 60616

>>> Zedakah <nathan.zedakah@...> 6/19/2009 7:48 AM >>>

Hi all,

Does anyone have experience of Tramadol, it has been prescribed to me

for PN....

Are there any contraindications?

Any advice on how to manage its side effects...

Thanks

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[Guest guest]

I just wanted to say a big 'thank

you' to everyone who responded to my questions about Tramadol both on

the list and privately, its much appreciated.

[Guest guest]

Hi All

I wrote this below as a reply to the subject but on Sanfords post and it went

only to him, I forgot you had to change the to line to post to the group.

Sanford pointed this out and suggested I share it with the group.

To be fair I took Tramadol when I was in a very weakened state after a major

horse riding accident and the fact that I had Hallucinations that are usually

only associated with aged people who take Tramadol might have been related to

how weak and frail I was at the time.

But Tramadol did indeed have this effect and I tried it again for pain relief

when I was a bit better and out of hospital but it had the same effects. I was

not on HIV meds at the time and otherwise only on antibiotics so it could not

have been due to drug interactions.

Hi

Well this was not my experince.i.e that Tramadol is safe and not a hard hitting

drug

I took Tramadol - not for HIV related stuff but because I had a major accident

which among other things completely shattered my leg, but luckily they decided

to try to save it rather than amputation so the accident was followed by several

operations then followed by wearing a fixator for a year and then an ankle

fusion and other reconstructive surgery.

I was in much pain for along time and was told also that Tramadol was safer than

the morphine I had been on and not a heavy hitter.

But actually taking Tramadol was a horrible experience for me and one I would

never repeat. I tolerated morphine well and some other related synthetic opiates

- and certainly never got many side effect or addicted as now 3 years on from

the reconstructive surgery I have rarely taken even very mild pain killers.

But Tramadol sent me off my head!! I had horrible and scary hallucinations -

almost psychosis, horrible dreams, sweating, nausea and many more side effects,

and I am not prone to hallucinations/psychosis.

I now take Atripla for HIV with few side effects at all and have never even

suffered even vivid dreams while I have friends with HIV who can not take

Atripla because of this and other mental health effects.

Anyway at the time I complained about the side effects to my doctor/consultant

and filled in - I live in the UK - a side effect notification form for the NHS .

I was told that hallucinations etc are known with Tramadol but only with the

aged i.e over 70 and I was in my early 50s at the time so I was not taken

seriously and almost told I was imagining it!!

But I have talked to others who took Tramadol. And while many swear by it and

think it is a great pain killer with few side effects, there are a significant

group ( among those few I have talked to so it is not a big enough group really

to say this is common ) who experience what I did i.e hallucinations and other

intolerable side effect.

Personally I think that because the drug is so useful the medical profession -

at least here in the UK - does not want to acknowledge that for a significant

number Tramadol is totally unusable

Veritee XX

>

> I just wanted to say a big 'thank you' to everyone who responded to my

> questions about Tramadol both on the list and privately, its much

> appreciated.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You’re welcome, Karyn.

Yes, my doctor(s) repeatedly told me I was

in danger of harming my liver. For that reason, I had/have lots of blood tests

to make sure I’m OK.

Maybe you can negotiate with your doc to

continue taking the amount of Tramadol you require for effective pain control as

long as he takes regular tests?

To my mind, I’ll do anything to

avoid bad pain. I would take morphine if my doc would prescribe it (he won’t).

I used to feel bad about taking Percocet, but I don’t care anymore. I

know I’ll never be a [psychological] drug addict. Yes, my body might get

used to my current dose and so I might have to increase it, but so be it. My

doc, thank goodness, completely trusts me – he knows I use it safely.

If your pain becomes uncontrollable, there

are a couple of people in this group who have an implanted pain pump that

delivers morphine automatically. If you’re curious, ask (our Feisty

High Priestess!).

Andy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Izarah Star

Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010

11:55 AM

Subject: RE:

question for my fellow canadians

Thanks Andy for the info. Did your Dr ever discuss

the dangers of Tramadol to you?

I am not a canditate for revision ( too risky)- so

finding some thing that i can take long term is fairly important to me. I

just worry that while i am helping in one area- i am ruinng another other,

UGH!

Karyn

From: Andy Stanton <andystanton@ comcast.net>

Subject: RE: question for my fellow canadians

FeistyScolioFlatbac kers@groups .com

Received: Friday, January 1, 2010, 9:02 PM

Hi Karyn,

I just saw your post…I’ve been on

Tramadol for 15 years with no liver problems. My primary care doc likes me

to get a twice yearly blood test to check my liver function, which I do,

but I’ve never any problems.

Best of luck,

Andy Stanton

Boulder Colorado

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question for my fellow canadians

Has

anyone been prescibed Vicodin? I've been told its illegal in Canada-but i

am not sure if thats true. I am taking Tramdol-which has helped way better

than the T3's I used to take.

When my flatback is totally unmanageable I am prescribed Morphine-

Does anyone in Canada

have any success with other drugs? My concern with the Tramadol is the long

term effects it will take on my liver. So do we live with the pain now or

do we continue to take meds to help us now and worry about the long term

side effects later?

Karyn from Canada

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I have been on morhpine for my back pain- works amazing-but it made me very groggy and unable to function- i took it for 6 months while i was bedridden. ive heard some people get excellent pain relief from vicoden-buts its highly addictive and not available in canada.

tramadol has managed my pain the best by far while not giving me that 'high' feeling.

From: Andy Stanton <andystanton@ comcast.net>Subject: RE: question for my fellow canadiansFeistyScolioFlatbac kers@groups .comReceived: Friday, January 1, 2010, 9:02 PM

Hi Karyn,

I just saw your post…I’ve been on Tramadol for 15 years with no liver problems. My primary care doc likes me to get a twice yearly blood test to check my liver function, which I do, but I’ve never any problems.

Best of luck, Andy Stanton Boulder Colorado

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Has anyone been prescibed Vicodin? I've been told its illegal in Canada-but i am not sure if thats true. I am taking Tramdol-which has helped way better than the T3's I used to take.When my flatback is totally unmanageable I am prescribed Morphine-Does anyone in Canada have any success with other drugs? My concern with the Tramadol is the long term effects it will take on my liver. So do we live with the pain now or do we continue to take meds to help us now and worry about the long term side effects later?Karyn from Canada

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