Re: Whey and Inulin Question for Duncan

[Guest guest]

Hi ; yes, most of the research used native inulin, and this is the most

common form used. It restores bowel ecology and improves fecal bulking and habit

even though it's 10% sugar, but people report much less gas on purified long

chain inulin if you can get it.

Long chain inulin has been proven in the research (also posted on my site) to

not foster pathogen growth even when incubated in an ideal environment for an

extra week. It seems to be a lot better, at least somewhat less gassy, but I

don't know of any long-chain inulin at retail; I think you'd have to buy a sack

of it.

Nearly all of the negative comments on " inulin/FOS " (because they don't know the

difference) arise from SCD (specific carbohydrate diet) proponents who seek to

minimize bowel fermentation and repeat the lingering suspicions fostered by 50

year old dogma. Concerns however have been abundantly addressed in the last 20

years or so. Gas is a natural product of probiotic fermentation, which allows

probiotics to be active and keep order. Gas subsides over weeks as the

bifidobacteria, which produce much less gas than lactobacilli as a group,

restores order.

all good,

Duncan

>> Hmmm... the NOW brand organic that I bought does have a slightly sweet

> taste, so I guess it falls into that category... I'm hoping that this

> type will still get the job done?

[Guest guest]

When I fart a lot, my turds sink in the bowl. When my turds float, I

do not fart. Neither gives me intestinal pain, so either way if fine

with me.

When I first started using inulin, it was what O bought from you. Out

of curiosity, was that purified? Or much the same as the inulin from

NOW I buy these days?

Alobar

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

>

> Hi ; yes, most of the research used native inulin, and this is the most

common form used. It restores bowel ecology and improves fecal bulking and habit

even though it's 10% sugar, but people report much less gas on purified long

chain inulin if you can get it.

>

> Long chain inulin has been proven in the research (also posted on my site) to

not foster pathogen growth even when incubated in an ideal environment for an

extra week. It seems to be a lot better, at least somewhat less gassy, but I

don't know of any long-chain inulin at retail; I think you'd have to buy a sack

of it.

>

> Nearly all of the negative comments on " inulin/FOS " (because they don't know

the difference) arise from SCD (specific carbohydrate diet) proponents who seek

to minimize bowel fermentation and repeat the lingering suspicions fostered by

50 year old dogma. Concerns however have been abundantly addressed in the last

20 years or so. Gas is a natural product of probiotic fermentation, which allows

probiotics to be active and keep order. Gas subsides over weeks as the

bifidobacteria, which produce much less gas than lactobacilli as a group,

restores order.

>

> all good,

>

> Duncan

>

[Guest guest]

Alobar,

This post made me laugh before going to work. Thank you for that. I find it

humorous how diversified the discussions are here. All the more important to

keep an eye open though because " there's diamonds in them hills " .

On a practical basis, I have started oil pulling with CO. That, in itself, is

a notable addition which I have found here.

A web site dedicated to oil pulling:

http://www.oilpulling.com/userexperiences.htm

> >

> > Hi ; yes, most of the research used native inulin, and this is the

most common form used. It restores bowel ecology and improves fecal bulking and

habit even though it's 10% sugar, but people report much less gas on purified

long chain inulin if you can get it.

> >

> > Long chain inulin has been proven in the research (also posted on my site)

to not foster pathogen growth even when incubated in an ideal environment for an

extra week. It seems to be a lot better, at least somewhat less gassy, but I

don't know of any long-chain inulin at retail; I think you'd have to buy a sack

of it.

> >

> > Nearly all of the negative comments on " inulin/FOS " (because they don't know

the difference) arise from SCD (specific carbohydrate diet) proponents who seek

to minimize bowel fermentation and repeat the lingering suspicions fostered by

50 year old dogma. Concerns however have been abundantly addressed in the last

20 years or so. Gas is a natural product of probiotic fermentation, which allows

probiotics to be active and keep order. Gas subsides over weeks as the

bifidobacteria, which produce much less gas than lactobacilli as a group,

restores order.

> >

> > all good,

> >

> > Duncan

> >

>

[Guest guest]

G'day Alobar; inulin that came from me years ago in a plain ziploc bag was long

chain inulin averaging 22 DP chains, compared to native inulin's 9 or 10 DP

average. I think I sold Orafti first, then switched to Cosucra LCHT because it

was twice as easy to dissolve in water.

Long chain inulin doesn't feed pathogens even if is incubated for an extra week

in a pure culture with no competitors. One of those studies gave that klebsiella

and other pathogen chart on my inulin references page.

In the gut of course the bifidobacteria rule pretty quick and this is why even

native inulin works pretty good. Some people were eating 40 grams or more of

that long chain inulin, more than an historic eastern European and 5 times less

than an Australian aboriginal diet would provide.

Now foods inulin is 3% FOS and about 9%-11% sugar, so it's about 85% long chain

inulin and a lot cheaper. When I saw how well people were doing on native inulin

I lost interest in standing at the Post Office with my parcels and quit selling

long chain around Christmas 2004. I think it should still be available though

because fusobacteria can use inulin and create gas, and that happens sometimes

in the upper GI tract. LCHT doesn't have time to ferment in the upper GI tract;

it will reach the colon.

all good,

Duncan

>

> When I fart a lot, my turds sink in the bowl. When my turds float, I

> do not fart. Neither gives me intestinal pain, so either way if fine

> with me.

>

> When I first started using inulin, it was what O bought from you. Out

> of curiosity, was that purified? Or much the same as the inulin from

> NOW I buy these days?

>

> Alobar

>