New to the group

[Guest guest]

Welcome Amy! Keep reading the list, the calendar automatically sends

out notices of meetings. You can always access the calendar if you

visit our page at groups online, too.

Barb S., one of the moderators

[Guest guest]

, there is a Graduate Bandster group for people who are at least 6 mos out

and there is a group for bandsters who are 2 years+ out. Donna

new to the group

Hey there everyone. I was banded Aug. 5, 2003 and am back on the

boards for the first time in well over a year! I don't even know my

current fill level, but am thinking it's too tight. I've lost 65 lbs

from my all-time high, but have more to go (at LEAST 50). I'm looking

for info on all the boards that are for people who are at least 6

months banded. This one jumped out at me, but what are the others?

from Birmingham, AL

[Guest guest]

thanks donna. do you know the name of the one for the 2+ year folks?

I re-read my post and didn't clarify what's going on with me. maybe

some of you out there have feedback? i've had the same fill level

for the last year and haven't really lost a lot more weight. i fell

in love last fall and dropped another 15-20 lbs, but who's to say

that wouldn't have happened even without the band anyway, I'm

thinking I need some let out because I'm finding myself eating more

and more ice cream, chips, etc. because it goes down easier than

healthy veggies and fruits and whole grain items. it's like I've

learned to eat around the band. any ideas or experiences from

anyone????? I'd love to hear them, just please go easy on the

flames. I'm up for constructive criticism, but scolding isn't

helpful to me.

from Birmingham, AL

> , there is a Graduate Bandster group for people who are at

least 6 mos out and there is a group for bandsters who are 2 years+

out. Donna

> new to the group

>

>

>

>

> Hey there everyone. I was banded Aug. 5, 2003 and am back on the

> boards for the first time in well over a year! I don't even know

my

> current fill level, but am thinking it's too tight. I've lost 65

lbs

> from my all-time high, but have more to go (at LEAST 50). I'm

looking

> for info on all the boards that are for people who are at least 6

> months banded. This one jumped out at me, but what are the

others?

> from Birmingham, AL

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, Hmmmm...I think I'd be a bit leery of getting any fill out, as

a long as you CAN eat good meals of meat and veggies, but just

AREN'T! :-)

The lifestyle and " head " changes needed to choose mostly healthier

foods and avoid the sweets and junk is something the band does not

help much with, sadly. It's something we will all fight with

forevermore - I sure do, at more than 2 years out.

If you truly CANNOT eat 1200-1500 cal a day of mostly solid foods

(protein, veggies, cereal grains) then you are a bit too tight.

You may actually benefit from a bit MORE fill - any time you are

following the band guideleines fairly well, getting good exercise,

but have not lost an average of 1-2# a week for MORE than 3-4 weeks

in a row, it's time to consider another fill, depending on several

factors.

Have you been working on all the emotional and " head " stuff? Learning

WHY you overeat and choose not-so-great foods? Learning to sybstitute

heqlthier things for inappropriate eating? Seeing a therapist,

perhaps? I see repeatedly that those who try to ignore the emotional

part always have it come back to bite them in the A**.

Lots to consider!

Sounds like you've done really great, and can get right back on

track!

Sandy R

> > , there is a Graduate Bandster group for people who are at

> least 6 mos out and there is a group for bandsters who are 2 years+

> out. Donna

> > new to the group

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hey there everyone. I was banded Aug. 5, 2003 and am back on

the

> > boards for the first time in well over a year! I don't even

know

> my

> > current fill level, but am thinking it's too tight. I've lost

65

> lbs

> > from my all-time high, but have more to go (at LEAST 50). I'm

> looking

> > for info on all the boards that are for people who are at least

6

> > months banded. This one jumped out at me, but what are the

> others?

> > from Birmingham, AL

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hey Sandy! You are another one, like Dan, who had a huge positive influence on

me

before and after banding. Thanks for the input! I made the unfill appt for

June 1st so I

have time to change behavior and back out if necessary.

in Birmingham, AL

>

> , Hmmmm...I think I'd be a bit leery of getting any fill out, as

> a long as you CAN eat good meals of meat and veggies, but just

> AREN'T! :-)

> The lifestyle and " head " changes needed to choose mostly healthier

> foods and avoid the sweets and junk is something the band does not

> help much with, sadly. It's something we will all fight with

[Guest guest]

--hey Dawn, I have almpost teh exact same thing as you, I was born

with greeny blue eyes and then at around two years old i had a

cataract in my right eye and due to the drops and all that stuff

they put in your eyes to release pressure, teh pigment can change. I

now have one brown eye and one green one...since i only had a

cataract in one eye.... it is not very knowticible teh colours are

dark but u can def see it wen the lights shining. Im 19 now and i

still get so self conscience about it...but ive never met anyone who

didnt liek it before, but for some reason it bugs me a lot...and i

was so happy to find this site just to hear how everyone felt.

- In heterochromia , " Dawn " <melody012399@s...> wrote:

>

> Hi all,

>

> My name is Dawn. My eyes are also 2 different colors. My right

eye

> is blue & my left eye is green. The green eye also changes colors

> sometimes (hazel, greenish-blue, brown). I've had this as long as

I

> can remember. I'm not sure if it was congenital or not, guess I

> should ask my mom. I never knew there was a term for it until

> recently I heard someone refer to it on a news report. I did a

> search & voila I found out lots of stuff & found this group.

>

> As I said, I don't know if mine is congenital. I do know that my

> birth certificate just states " blue " . My optic nerve for my left

eye

> was damaged at birth, so maybe that may have caused the change in

> color since I read that it can be caused by types of trauma. I

also

> developed a cataract on my left eye when I was about 6-8 months

old &

> had it removed, but I don't know if that had anything to do with

it.

> I do know that it wasn't inherited (unless it was from someone too

> far back for anyone to remember) because no one else in my family

has

> it.

>

> This was very annoying for me growing up because I was the only

> person anyone ever knew with heterochromia. I always got the

> comment, " I've seen dogs with 2 different colored eyes, but never

a

> person. " If I have to hear that one more time I think I will

> scream! As I got to be older it hasn't been commented on as much.

>

> I don't really have a picture that shows my eyes well, so maybe

I'll

> have to get my husband to take one sometime soon so that I can

upload

> it.

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave,

And welcome to our group.

I'm glad to hear that you are getting relief from your scs. As far as the

battery it's expected to last about 5 years or so. Some more , some less.

When I first had mine, I was so grateful for the relief I left it on 24/7

and was told that's not a problem. Now I power off for days at a time and

I'm doing great. A lot depends on the settings of your unit. Your rep should

have a decent idea of how long the battery should last.

I'm not certain about that " power surge " , but I still get it in certain

positions and I had mine implanted in December '04. It doesn't seem to be

quite so strong any longer though.

Good luck,

Jeff-NY/PA

Moderator

>From: " Dave " <imdabro@...>

>Reply-Stimulator

>Stimulator

>Subject: New to the group

>Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 01:21:24 -0000

>

" Knowledge speaks,

but wisdom listens. " Jimi Hendrix

[Guest guest]

Dave

Welcome Dave! Congratulations on your successful implant! I only wish

it would have also worked for your legs and feet.

I never turn either of my stimulators off and they lasts for 2 years.

I was always told that the average battery life was between 2 and 3

years. The Medtronics website won't even give you an estimate though.

Next time you go to your doctor or see your rep ask him or her what

your expected battery life is. Then you'll know how long you have and

you won't have to worry. (by the way what system do you have - I know

you have medtronics but do you know what version - it should say it on

the cover of the information book that came with the box and remote)

As for the power surge - Since you are only a month post op there's

a good chance that all the scar tissue hasn't fully formed around the

lead yet. If it hasn't there's a chance that as you continue to heal

the power surges will start to diminish. They may not disappear but

hopefully they wouldn't be as strong. I have had one of my stimulators

for 6 years and the other one for 7 years and I still get changes in

the stimulation when I move in certain positions.

By the way if you are still worried about your battery life ask you

rep or your doctor to look at the settings you use to see if they are

energy efficient. Sometimes If you normally use your stim with a

higher pulse rate and a lower intensity they might be able to find a

new setting with a lower pulse rate and a increased intensity (since

the pulse rate was what was using all the energy), or a new program.

If they find the right program they can increase your battery life.

Unfortunately sometimes no matter what they do it doesn't work.

Once again welcome to the group.

Jaci

On May 19, 2005, at 9:21 PM, Dave wrote:

> Hi All.

> My name is Dave and I am  new to your group.

> I have chronic pain due to MS and Peripheral Neuropathy.

> My trial period did not work for my lower legs and feet,  but it

> eased my arms and hands pain by about 75%.  As many of you know, any

> help is a blessing.  I had the permanent stimulator surgery about a

> month ago, and along with oxycontin and methadone I am overall

> pleased with the result.

>

> I hoped some of you with more experience could help with a few

> questions.

>

> I have the Medtronic with 2 leads and an implanted battery.

> (I see from some posts there is a new rechargeable unit that I

> missed buy a couple months)

> I power off to sleep because I'm afraid of eating up the battery. 

> Any ideas on how long the battery will last?

>

> Also, certain ways I move my neck I still get power surge.  Does

> that ever go away?

>

> I was so glad to see there was a group for those of us with a SCS.

>

> Thanks,  Dave

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your warm welcome and Jaclyn.

Jaclyn my box says Synergy EZ 7435. Is that the information you

asked about? Its great you have had help for so many years. I hope

I get the same.

Again. Thanks for your welcomes.

Dave

-- In Stimulator , Jaclyn Drake <Jacid@m...> wrote:

> Dave

> Welcome Dave! Congratulations on your successful implant! I

only wish

> it would have also worked for your legs and feet.

> I never turn either of my stimulators off and they lasts for

2 years.

> I was always told that the average battery life was between 2 and

3

> years. The Medtronics website won't even give you an estimate

though.

> Next time you go to your doctor or see your rep ask him or her

what

> your expected battery life is. Then you'll know how long you have

and

> you won't have to worry. (by the way what system do you have - I

know

> you have medtronics but do you know what version - it should say

it on

> the cover of the information book that came with the box and

remote)

> As for the power surge - Since you are only a month post

op there's

> a good chance that all the scar tissue hasn't fully formed around

the

> lead yet. If it hasn't there's a chance that as you continue to

heal

> the power surges will start to diminish. They may not disappear

but

> hopefully they wouldn't be as strong. I have had one of my

stimulators

> for 6 years and the other one for 7 years and I still get changes

in

> the stimulation when I move in certain positions.

> By the way if you are still worried about your battery life

ask you

> rep or your doctor to look at the settings you use to see if they

are

> energy efficient. Sometimes If you normally use your stim with a

> higher pulse rate and a lower intensity they might be able to find

a

> new setting with a lower pulse rate and a increased intensity

(since

> the pulse rate was what was using all the energy), or a new

program.

> If they find the right program they can increase your battery

life.

> Unfortunately sometimes no matter what they do it doesn't work.

> Once again welcome to the group.

> Jaci

>

>

> On May 19, 2005, at 9:21 PM, Dave wrote:

>

> > Hi All.

> > My name is Dave and I am  new to your group.

> > I have chronic pain due to MS and Peripheral Neuropathy.

> > My trial period did not work for my lower legs and feet,  but

it

> > eased my arms and hands pain by about 75%.  As many of you

know, any

> > help is a blessing.  I had the permanent stimulator surgery

about a

> > month ago, and along with oxycontin and methadone I am overall

> > pleased with the result.

> >

> > I hoped some of you with more experience could help with a few

> > questions.

> >

> > I have the Medtronic with 2 leads and an implanted battery.

> > (I see from some posts there is a new rechargeable unit that I

> > missed buy a couple months)

> > I power off to sleep because I'm afraid of eating up the

battery. 

> > Any ideas on how long the battery will last?

> >

> > Also, certain ways I move my neck I still get power surge. 

Does

> > that ever go away?

> >

> > I was so glad to see there was a group for those of us with a

SCS.

> >

> > Thanks,  Dave

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dave

Yes that is the information I wanted to know. I am pretty sure that

is the model I have but I just had a block today so I cant get my box

down from my closet since it is on the top self. I will get it down

tomorrow and double check.

Jaci

On May 22, 2005, at 10:56 AM, Dave wrote:

> Thanks for your warm welcome and Jaclyn.

>

> Jaclyn my box says Synergy EZ 7435.  Is that the information you

> asked about?  Its great you have had help for so many years.  I hope

> I get the same.

>

> Again.  Thanks for your welcomes.

> Dave

>

>

>

>

>

> -- In Stimulator , Jaclyn Drake <Jacid@m...> wrote:

> > Dave

> >       Welcome Dave! Congratulations on your successful implant!  I

> only wish

> > it would have also worked for your legs and feet.

> >       I never turn either of my stimulators off and they lasts for

> 2 years. 

> > I was always told that the average battery life was between 2 and

> 3

> > years. The Medtronics website won't even give you an estimate

> though. 

> > Next time you go to your doctor or see your rep ask him or her

> what

> > your expected battery life is.  Then you'll know how long you have

> and

> > you won't have to worry.  (by the way what system do you have - I

> know

> > you have medtronics but do you know what version - it should say

> it on

> > the cover of the information book that came with the box and

> remote)

> >       As for the power surge -   Since you are only a month post

> op there's

> > a good chance that all the scar tissue hasn't fully formed around

> the

> > lead yet.  If it hasn't there's a chance that as you continue to

> heal

> > the power surges will start to diminish.  They may not disappear

> but

> > hopefully they wouldn't be as strong.  I have had one of my

> stimulators

> > for 6 years and the other one for 7 years and I still get changes

> in

> > the stimulation when I move in certain positions.

> >       By the way if you are still worried about your battery life

> ask you

> > rep or your doctor to look at the settings you use to see if they

> are

> > energy efficient.  Sometimes If you normally use your stim with a

> > higher pulse rate and a lower intensity they might be able to find

> a

> > new setting with a lower pulse rate and a increased intensity

> (since

> > the pulse rate was what was using all the energy), or a new

> program. 

> > If they find the right program they can increase your battery

> life. 

> > Unfortunately sometimes no matter what they do it doesn't work.

> >       Once again welcome to the group.

> >       Jaci

> >

> >            

> > On May 19, 2005, at 9:21 PM, Dave wrote:

> >

> > > Hi All.

> > >  My name is Dave and I am  new to your group.

> > >  I have chronic pain due to MS and Peripheral Neuropathy.

> > >  My trial period did not work for my lower legs and feet,  but

> it

> > >  eased my arms and hands pain by about 75%.  As many of you

> know, any

> > >  help is a blessing.  I had the permanent stimulator surgery

> about a

> > >  month ago, and along with oxycontin and methadone I am overall

> > >  pleased with the result.

> > >

> > >  I hoped some of you with more experience could help with a few

> > >  questions.

> > >

> > >  I have the Medtronic with 2 leads and an implanted battery.

> > >  (I see from some posts there is a new rechargeable unit that I

> > >  missed buy a couple months)

> > >  I power off to sleep because I'm afraid of eating up the

> battery. 

> > >  Any ideas on how long the battery will last?

> > >

> > >  Also, certain ways I move my neck I still get power surge. 

> Does

> > >  that ever go away?

> > >

> > >  I was so glad to see there was a group for those of us with a

> SCS.

> > >

> > >  Thanks,  Dave

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

// I had my first fill about 2 weeks ago. I am eating less than

what I was eating before but I am able to get down a cup of food

each time I eat. I definitely have restriction but I do find myself

hungry about 3 - 4 hours after I eat. I was told I would probably

only eat 3 times a day; however, I do find myself getting hungry

between meals so I do snack some. Is this wrong? I am making sure

my snacks are low cal higher protein items (low fat yogurt, low fat

cheese or small protein bars). Am I eating too much?//

,

Congrats on your progress so far! Almost no one gets adequate

restriction on the first fill, but a cup of food is just fine.

Staying full for 3-4 hours is great. I eat 3 meals a day plus an

afternoon snack. I personally would choose someting different than

yogurt or cheese for my snack. Yogurt is to slippery and will make

you hungry again soon, and even low fat cheese is mostly fat. I try

to use cheese for flavoring, such as parmesan cheese where a little

goea a long way.

Some of my favorite snacks are beef jerky, and left over chicken or

beef from a previous meal. I don't know about you, but I rarely

seem to run out of leftovers. I usually eat a protein bar for

breakfast, but they do make for a good snack as well.

Alice

Dr Watkins

1/13/05

250/197.5/195 mini goal

[Guest guest]

--- In , " alicem48 "

<alicebmaring@c...> wrote

Alice,

Thank you for the advice. You are right- I normally have plenty of

left overs. Having the protein left overs would be a good snack-

I'm not sure why I never thought of that. Thanks so much!

Dr. Macik

04/13/05

360/326/185

> ,

> Congrats on your progress so far! Almost no one gets adequate

> restriction on the first fill, but a cup of food is just fine.

> Staying full for 3-4 hours is great. I eat 3 meals a day plus an

> afternoon snack. I personally would choose someting different

than

> yogurt or cheese for my snack. Yogurt is to slippery and will

make

> you hungry again soon, and even low fat cheese is mostly fat. I

try

> to use cheese for flavoring, such as parmesan cheese where a

little

> goea a long way.

>

> Some of my favorite snacks are beef jerky, and left over chicken

or

> beef from a previous meal. I don't know about you, but I rarely

> seem to run out of leftovers. I usually eat a protein bar for

> breakfast, but they do make for a good snack as well.

> Alice

> Dr Watkins

> 1/13/05

> 250/197.5/195 mini goal

[Guest guest]

With a good fill, m ost people eat about 1/2-1 cup of food. Remember

that the pouch is only the size of a golfball, and eating much more

can dilate the pouch, which can lead to slippage. It depends on the

type of food you eat too - solids will obviously fill the pouch

faster and stay there longer - whicvh is the goal. Soft foods and

fluids do not make the band work at all.

Not many people have a good restriction with just the very first

fill, so you sound as if you're doing fine. 3 meals a day with 1-2

small, planned, protein snacks is hust fone. A good calorie goal is

1200-1500 cal a day, but this may be hard until you get to a good

restriction.

It will be your weight loss that tells you if you have a good fill -

you might want to read the document in the files here, called " How to

tell if you are perfectly adjusted " . If you're choosing good band

foods, getting good exercise, and have a good fill, you'll generally

be averaging a loss of 1-2# a week over a month's time.

Protein bars and protein drinks are best avoided, IMO (and the band

pioneers and Inamed) - get your protein from real, solid foods that

nake the band work for you. Better snacks would be a piece of string

cheese, mor a couple nuggets of the soft Tillamook beef jerky, ot a

cup of Yoplait nonfat light yogurrt - only 100 cal and good calcium,

plus far fewer calories and better protein. Sandy R

> // I had my first fill about 2 weeks ago. I am eating less than

> what I was eating before but I am able to get down a cup of food

> each time I eat. I definitely have restriction but I do find

myself

> hungry about 3 - 4 hours after I eat. I was told I would probably

> only eat 3 times a day; however, I do find myself getting hungry

> between meals so I do snack some. Is this wrong? I am making sure

> my snacks are low cal higher protein items (low fat yogurt, low fat

> cheese or small protein bars). Am I eating too much?//

>

>

> ,

> Congrats on your progress so far! Almost no one gets adequate

> restriction on the first fill, but a cup of food is just fine.

> Staying full for 3-4 hours is great. I eat 3 meals a day plus an

> afternoon snack. I personally would choose someting different than

> yogurt or cheese for my snack. Yogurt is to slippery and will make

> you hungry again soon, and even low fat cheese is mostly fat. I

try

> to use cheese for flavoring, such as parmesan cheese where a little

> goea a long way.

>

> Some of my favorite snacks are beef jerky, and left over chicken or

> beef from a previous meal. I don't know about you, but I rarely

> seem to run out of leftovers. I usually eat a protein bar for

> breakfast, but they do make for a good snack as well.

> Alice

> Dr Watkins

> 1/13/05

> 250/197.5/195 mini goal

[Guest guest]

In addition to the yoplait, which is fine, but in our store is 59

cents, the fred meyer brand, which I find just as good, is frequently

on sale at 10 for four bucks. Might try other brands, but do indeed

WATCH THE CALORIES. Some yogurts that look " just the same " pretty

much on the container will be 220 instead of 100.

dan

Wednesday, June 15, 2005, 12:15:10 PM, you wrote:

S> Better snacks would be a piece of string

S> cheese, mor a couple nuggets of the soft Tillamook beef jerky, ot a

S> cup of Yoplait nonfat light yogurrt - only 100 cal and good calcium,

S> plus far fewer calories and better protein. Sandy R

Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk

Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03

323/209/199 Age 62 Fair is whatever God decides to do.

[Guest guest]

The yoplait " nonfat light " is the only yogurt I've found with only

100 can per cup. Plus, it is del;icious with big chunks or real

fruit.

Yes, it is a bit more expensive (53 cents at Winco here) but part of

the reason I became fat was that i was too dedicated to finding CHEAP

stuff that was higher-cal and not dedicated enough to quaslity, taste

and lower calories.

As a Bandster, my health is worth the best food, and only delicious

food - since I'm eating so little. I'm worth buying the best food,

and it helped me meet my weight loss goal.

No more " all you can eat " places, 3 for $1 Top Ramen noodles, and

other crappy stuff. - the cheap price was WAY WAY too high as it

made me fat!!) To me, this is a very impt concept for Bandsters to

Accept - part of the lifestyle changes. Sandy R

> In addition to the yoplait, which is fine, but in our store is 59

> cents, the fred meyer brand, which I find just as good, is

frequently

> on sale at 10 for four bucks. Might try other brands, but do indeed

> WATCH THE CALORIES. Some yogurts that look " just the same " pretty

> much on the container will be 220 instead of 100.

>

> dan

>

[Guest guest]

Thursday, June 16, 2005, 2:01:10 PM, you wrote:

S> The yoplait " nonfat light " is the only yogurt I've found with only

S> 100 can per cup. Plus, it is del;icious with big chunks or real

S> fruit.

Well, what I have just pulled from my fridge in office (may eat it

tomorrow) is a container of Fred Meyer Lite Key Lime Pie. These are

the ten for four bucks ones. Don't buy because they're cheapest (I

have some yoplait too, as love their boston cream pie, so get them

sometimes) Label says 8 ounces, 100 calories, 0 fat, 9 g protein, 15 g

carbs. I like it and several of the other flavors. I don't

personally like " chunks " like fruit in my yogurt, so stay away from

those. But a very similar looking one from Tillamook says " lowfat "

and has 170 calories. Got it by mistake. Also didn't like it as

well, and it cost more.

S> Yes, it is a bit more expensive (53 cents at Winco here) but part of

S> the reason I became fat was that i was too dedicated to finding CHEAP

S> stuff that was higher-cal and not dedicated enough to quaslity, taste

S> and lower calories.

S> As a Bandster, my health is worth the best food, and only delicious

S> food - since I'm eating so little. I'm worth buying the best food,

S> and it helped me meet my weight loss goal.

Absolutely right. And I wasn't quibbling about the twenty cent

difference....just letting people know there are alternatives.

S> No more " all you can eat " places, 3 for $1 Top Ramen noodles, and

S> other crappy stuff. - the cheap price was WAY WAY too high as it

S> made me fat!!) To me, this is a very impt concept for Bandsters to

S> Accept - part of the lifestyle changes. Sandy R

Yup. People often say " how can those poor people in rags be so darn

fat " . Answer is easy. What's cheap? Flour, potatoes, pasta,

noodles, fats, government giveaway milk cheese and butter, and so on.

Yes, we're worth it. I'm one who grew up pretty poor, widowed mother

who taught school and raised six kids on that. We were happy nights

we got meat of any sort. Sometimes it was several weeks between meat

nights. And we damn well cleaned our plates, too. Not only because

we were told to, but because we knew we'd better get it while we

could, as it might not be there tomorrow.

I now leave food on plates in restaurants on the relatively infrequent

times I go to them. Or depending on what it is I'll get a go box.

The other night at a restaurant the waiter asked if my food was ok

because I didn't eat much. Asked if I wanted something else to

replace it. I said no, just couldn't eat it all, and it wasn't

something that I cared to take home (mainly because it was stuff that

doesn't keep well). He seemed puzzled, but politely took it away.

dan

Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk

Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03

323/209/199 Age 62 Fair is whatever God decides to do.

[Guest guest]

Wellbutrin is supposed to have minimal sexual side effects. If you

want to change, that might be a good one. My ex took 300mg of

Wellbutrin and never had any side effects and they say that it is the

best in its class for having the least amount of those side effects as

well as weight gain.

[Guest guest]

Hi Kent,

I'm a 43 year old male as well. I've been on Lexapro for a year.

It's helped me but I do have a definite drop in libido. I have kept

on it for my overall health and just have to make more of an effort to

make time. I think most of these meds have side effects. I believe

this one is manageable.

Sincerely,

Mylles

[Guest guest]

> Hello, today is day 14 on Lexapro (10mg). I'm a 43 year old male

> taking Lexapro for anxiety and depression. The last 14 days have

been

> wonderful, it's like I got a new release on life. I'm so much

happier

> then I've been in a long time. The bad news, the side effects. I

got

> the sexual side effects. My doctor is being very supportive and

gave

> me some Levitra, life is better but still not real good.

>

> I'm wondering should I stay on the Lexapro, or should I ask to be

> switched to something else. My doctor and my wife both say the

choice

> is mine. They say there are drugs out there that could give me

even

> worse side effects then what I have now. Plus the Lexapro seems

to be

There is another choice it is called remaron and it is as good or

better than the lexapro. I had the side effect you had and could not

handle not being able to finish but my wife loved it but for me I

switched and now the problem is fixed you know what im talking

about. I ve had no notable side effects yet I hope this helps

Greg

> working real well.

>

> I'm just wondering what everybody else thinks I should do?

>

> Thank you for your help

>

> Kent

[Guest guest]

Marjory: where in California? I moved from Kansa City to California and know

a lot of docs that can be helpful. Your ENT doc sounds like a butt.

Carol

New to the group

>I have had my Samters diagnosis for 13 years now and have had 6

> surgeries. I recently moved from Texas to California and am finding

> that it is hard to find a Dr. that is will to work with me. My

> symptoms were under control for a while until I gave birth to my

> third child and (I believe due to the hormones) now am in constant

> pain and nothing is helping, not even the oral steroids. I know that

> at this point the only way that I will get relief is through

> surgery. My PCP sent me to an ENT last week who told me " that I am

> not in pain since I have had so much of my sinuses reconstructed that

> their is no way that they could be hurting me " I tried to explain to

> him that not only do they hurt but I am to the point now that I can

> no longer put on make-up in the mornings because it hurts so much to

> touch my face. He looked at the CT that I had done, in which the

> radiologist said that my sinus cavities are " completely filled with

> polyps " and that " the only way that this patient will get relief is

> by removing them surgically " , he said that " while I see what they are

> seeing I do not agree with the report. " He said that he feels

> that " I should have never allowed the Doctor in Texas to do any

> surgery. " And that there is nothing that he can do for me except to

> tell me that in his opinion " I truly cannot be in pain and that is

> what he will send in his report to my PCP. "

>

> With that said I am trying to do some research to find a Doctor out

> here that knows about Samters and that can help me.

>

> I have been enjoying reading all the post and have learned a lot more

> than I thought that I would.

>

> Thanks,

> Marjory

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am in

Simi Valley outside of LA.

Thanks

Marjory

-----Original

Message-----

From: samters

[mailto:samters ]On Behalf Of Carol

Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005

1:20 PM

samters

Subject: Re: New to the

group

Marjory: where in California? I moved from Kansa City to

California and know

a lot of docs that can be helpful. Your ENT doc sounds like a butt.

Carol

New to the group

>I have had my Samters diagnosis for 13 years now and have had 6

> surgeries. I recently moved from Texas to California and am

finding

> that it is hard to find a Dr. that is will to work with me. My

> symptoms were under control for a while until I gave birth to my

> third child and (I believe due to the hormones) now am in constant

> pain and nothing is helping, not even the oral steroids. I know

that

> at this point the only way that I will get relief is through

> surgery. My PCP sent me to an ENT last week who told me

" that I am

> not in pain since I have had so much of my sinuses reconstructed that

> their is no way that they could be hurting me " I tried to explain

to

> him that not only do they hurt but I am to the point now that I can

> no longer put on make-up in the mornings because it hurts so much to

> touch my face. He looked at the CT that I had done, in which the

> radiologist said that my sinus cavities are " completely filled

with

> polyps " and that " the only way that this patient will get

relief is

> by removing them surgically " , he said that " while I see what

they are

> seeing I do not agree with the report. " He said that he

feels

> that " I should have never allowed the Doctor in Texas to do any

> surgery. " And that there is nothing that he can do for me

except to

> tell me that in his opinion " I truly cannot be in pain and that

is

> what he will send in his report to my PCP. "

>

> With that said I am trying to do some research to find a Doctor out

> here that knows about Samters and that can help me.

>

> I have been enjoying reading all the post and have learned a lot more

> than I thought that I would.

>

> Thanks,

> Marjory

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Marjory: I am sure there is someone closer to you that can recommend an ENT in So California. The people I know are in the northern California area. Have you considered one of the teaching hospitals? Carol

New to the group>I have had my Samters diagnosis for 13 years now and have had 6> surgeries. I recently moved from Texas to California and am finding> that it is hard to find a Dr. that is will to work with me. My> symptoms were under control for a while until I gave birth to my> third child and (I believe due to the hormones) now am in constant> pain and nothing is helping, not even the oral steroids. I know that> at this point the only way that I will get relief is through> surgery. My PCP sent me to an ENT last week who told me "that I am> not in pain since I have had so much of my sinuses reconstructed that> their is no way that they could be hurting me" I tried to explain to> him that not only do they hurt but I am to the point now that I can> no longer put on make-up in the mornings because it hurts so much to> touch my face. He looked at the CT that I had done, in which the> radiologist said that my sinus cavities are "completely filled with> polyps" and that "the only way that this patient will get relief is> by removing them surgically", he said that "while I see what they are> seeing I do not agree with the report." He said that he feels> that "I should have never allowed the Doctor in Texas to do any> surgery." And that there is nothing that he can do for me except to> tell me that in his opinion "I truly cannot be in pain and that is> what he will send in his report to my PCP.">> With that said I am trying to do some research to find a Doctor out> here that knows about Samters and that can help me.>> I have been enjoying reading all the post and have learned a lot more> than I thought that I would.>> Thanks,> Marjory>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Hi my husband has problems with samters, but reading your email l am interested in your surname as that was mine before marriage.

Are you and your husband related to any Hatfields in Australia. Interested to find out.

Regards Lynne sylvia

( Hatfield)

New to the group>I have had my Samters diagnosis for 13 years now and have had 6> surgeries. I recently moved from Texas to California and am finding> that it is hard to find a Dr. that is will to work with me. My> symptoms were under control for a while until I gave birth to my> third child and (I believe due to the hormones) now am in constant> pain and nothing is helping, not even the oral steroids. I know that> at this point the only way that I will get relief is through> surgery. My PCP sent me to an ENT last week who told me "that I am> not in pain since I have had so much of my sinuses reconstructed that> their is no way that they could be hurting me" I tried to explain to> him that not only do they hurt but I am to the point now that I can> no longer put on make-up in the mornings because it hurts so much to> touch my face. He looked at the CT that I had done, in which the> radiologist said that my sinus cavities are "completely filled with> polyps" and that "the only way that this patient will get relief is> by removing them surgically", he said that "while I see what they are> seeing I do not agree with the report." He said that he feels> that "I should have never allowed the Doctor in Texas to do any> surgery." And that there is nothing that he can do for me except to> tell me that in his opinion "I truly cannot be in pain and that is> what he will send in his report to my PCP.">> With that said I am trying to do some research to find a Doctor out> here that knows about Samters and that can help me.>> I have been enjoying reading all the post and have learned a lot more> than I thought that I would.>> Thanks,> Marjory>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

No I not think so. I know

that my husband’s family has traced their roots back to the original Hatfield’s

here in the US the ones that are part of the famous Hatfield and McCoy’s but beyond that I really am not sure!

-----Original

Message-----

From: samters

[mailto:samters ]On Behalf Of lynne

sylvia

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 1:42

AM

samters

Subject: Re: New to the

group

Hi my

husband has problems with samters, but reading your email l am interested in

your surname as that was mine before marriage.

Are you

and your husband related to any Hatfields in Australia. Interested to find out.

Regards

Lynne sylvia

(

Hatfield)

-----

Original Message -----

From: Marjory Hatfield

samters

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005

6:28 AM

Subject: RE:

New to the group

I am in Simi Valley outside

of LA.

Thanks

Marjory

Re: New to the

group

Marjory: where in California? I moved from Kansa

City to California and know

a lot of docs that can be helpful. Your ENT doc sounds like a butt.

Carol

New to the group

>I have had my Samters diagnosis for 13 years now and have had 6

> surgeries. I recently moved from Texas to California and am

finding

> that it is hard to find a Dr. that is will to work with me. My

> symptoms were under control for a while until I gave birth to my

> third child and (I believe due to the hormones) now am in constant

> pain and nothing is helping, not even the oral steroids. I know

that

> at this point the only way that I will get relief is through

> surgery. My PCP sent me to an ENT last week who told me

" that I am

> not in pain since I have had so much of my sinuses reconstructed that

> their is no way that they could be hurting me " I tried to explain

to

> him that not only do they hurt but I am to the point now that I can

> no longer put on make-up in the mornings because it hurts so much to

> touch my face. He looked at the CT that I had done, in which the

> radiologist said that my sinus cavities are " completely filled

with

> polyps " and that " the only way that this patient will get

relief is

> by removing them surgically " , he said that " while I see what

they are

> seeing I do not agree with the report. " He said that he

feels

> that " I should have never allowed the Doctor in Texas to do any

> surgery. " And that there is nothing that he can do for me

except to

> tell me that in his opinion " I truly cannot be in pain and that

is

> what he will send in his report to my PCP. "

>

> With that said I am trying to do some research to find a Doctor out

> here that knows about Samters and that can help me.

>

> I have been enjoying reading all the post and have learned a lot more

> than I thought that I would.

>

> Thanks,

> Marjory

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Your ENT sounds like a whackjob. I would love to kick him somewhere

and then say " that couldn't possibly hurt " and walk out. Hopefully

someone on the board in southern California can help you find a doc

that is not a nutcase. Trudy.

> I have had my Samters diagnosis for 13 years now and have had 6

> surgeries. I recently moved from Texas to California and am

finding

> that it is hard to find a Dr. that is will to work with me. My

> symptoms were under control for a while until I gave birth to my

> third child and (I believe due to the hormones) now am in constant

> pain and nothing is helping, not even the oral steroids. I know

that

> at this point the only way that I will get relief is through

> surgery. My PCP sent me to an ENT last week who told me " that I

am

> not in pain since I have had so much of my sinuses reconstructed

that

> their is no way that they could be hurting me " I tried to explain

to

> him that not only do they hurt but I am to the point now that I

can

> no longer put on make-up in the mornings because it hurts so much

to

> touch my face. He looked at the CT that I had done, in which the

> radiologist said that my sinus cavities are " completely filled

with

> polyps " and that " the only way that this patient will get relief

is

> by removing them surgically " , he said that " while I see what they

are

> seeing I do not agree with the report. " He said that he feels

> that " I should have never allowed the Doctor in Texas to do any

> surgery. " And that there is nothing that he can do for me except

to

> tell me that in his opinion " I truly cannot be in pain and that is

> what he will send in his report to my PCP. "

>

> With that said I am trying to do some research to find a Doctor

out

> here that knows about Samters and that can help me.

>

> I have been enjoying reading all the post and have learned a lot

more

> than I thought that I would.

>

> Thanks,

> Marjory