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Hi Rich,

What type of data would you propose members of this community could share about

their surgeons other than " stories " ?

Jeff

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From: Rich <rluxt@...>

Joint Replacement

Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 11:56:11 AM

Subject: Doctor assessments

I am curious why the moderator(s) of this group do not set up a folder in the

files area where writers can share experiences with various surgeons.

I realize there are numerous surgeons around the country but asking for

anecdotal opinions at times immediately before surgery or in its planning is hit

or miss. Getting doctor data is almost impossible but there are websites for it

such as ratemd.com but they focus on typically inane questions (wait time at

office, demeanor, etc).

The industry fights any pending laws to force doctors and hospitals to record

outcomes and issues and submit them for reporting. There is an argument against

such laws in that providers would avoid higher risk cases to be fair but it

should not be an opaque shield.

This would be a great venue for evaluations focused on outcomes by

physicians/surgeons.

For info my wife had bilateral knee replacement. The surgeon had an excellent

reputation and following. One knee became superficially infected and led to 7

weeks of vancomycin. Signs of infection were becoming apparent at discharge from

surgery follow up but overlooked.

One knee got to 130 degrees with days, the superficially infected knee took

weeks to get near that. Things can differ significantly outside of the surgeon's

realm or maybe through unknown effects by the patient. The difficult knee was

the first one done in surgery for info.

Nevertheless, data helps much more than " stories. "

Rich L

Green Bay, WI

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this has nothing to do with your request but my surgeon will NOT do

bilateral knee or hip replacements....

one at a time.......Barb

Doctor assessments

I am curious why the moderator(s) of this group do not set up a folder in

the files area where writers can share experiences with various surgeons.

I realize there are numerous surgeons around the country but asking for

anecdotal opinions at times immediately before surgery or in its planning is

hit or miss. Getting doctor data is almost impossible but there are websites

for it such as ratemd.com but they focus on typically inane questions (wait

time at office, demeanor, etc).

The industry fights any pending laws to force doctors and hospitals to

record outcomes and issues and submit them for reporting. There is an

argument against such laws in that providers would avoid higher risk cases

to be fair but it should not be an opaque shield.

This would be a great venue for evaluations focused on outcomes by

physicians/surgeons.

For info my wife had bilateral knee replacement. The surgeon had an

excellent reputation and following. One knee became superficially infected

and led to 7 weeks of vancomycin. Signs of infection were becoming apparent

at discharge from surgery follow up but overlooked.

One knee got to 130 degrees with days, the superficially infected knee took

weeks to get near that. Things can differ significantly outside of the

surgeon's realm or maybe through unknown effects by the patient. The

difficult knee was the first one done in surgery for info.

Nevertheless, data helps much more than " stories. "

Rich L

Green Bay, WI

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In answer to your question, I don't feel there is a need to single out specific

surgeons at this site. As consumers, you all should be doing your research as

to a surgeon's reputation and outcomes. This is a venue for you all to share

your experiences and you can bring up physician specific issues. I know nothing

about these surgeons and it would be slanderous for me to establish a folder

based on the experiences brought up here.

I would suggest looking up your state's Medical Board, speaking to outpatient

physical therapists and your own primary physicians for reporting on a Surgeon.

They have the most information for you to make a decision on based on their

direct interactions with patients.

I have elected to run the forum in this manner...

Thanks for asking!

Alisa Curry PT DPT

Site Moderator

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Jeff,

My focus was more on the aspect of isolated " stories, " that is, to offer a place

to accumulate the data. Some criteria could be set up as score points such as

time to 110 or so bending, 3 month functional aspects, et al. Post op infection,

superficial or joint (I suspect that this is under-reported at 2%).

Complications. That sort of thing.

Indicating how " nice " and doctor is, promptness of getting an appointment, etc

don't do much for the outcome. Brand of knee used, model/style would also be an

excellent piece of data.

One of the possible contributions this group could make is accumulation of data

that may offer greater insight than is available elsewhere.

The joint replacement book is an excellent tool and I am very happy I found out

about it here and bought it for my wife while she was considering hip and knee

replacements. It was invaluable in questioning, assessing, and assisting. I

credit this conference for that.

One thing about data accumulation is it often leads to unexpected observations.

I would be happy to work with someone to develop criteria to focus the data

base.

Rich

>

> Hi Rich,

> What type of data would you propose members of this community could share

about

> their surgeons other than " stories " ?

> Jeff

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Rich <rluxt@...>

> Joint Replacement

> Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 11:56:11 AM

> Subject: Doctor assessments

>

> I am curious why the moderator(s) of this group do not set up a folder in the

> files area where writers can share experiences with various surgeons.

>

>

> I realize there are numerous surgeons around the country but asking for

> anecdotal opinions at times immediately before surgery or in its planning is

hit

> or miss. Getting doctor data is almost impossible but there are websites for

it

> such as ratemd.com but they focus on typically inane questions (wait time at

> office, demeanor, etc).

>

> The industry fights any pending laws to force doctors and hospitals to record

> outcomes and issues and submit them for reporting. There is an argument

against

> such laws in that providers would avoid higher risk cases to be fair but it

> should not be an opaque shield.

>

> This would be a great venue for evaluations focused on outcomes by

> physicians/surgeons.

>

> For info my wife had bilateral knee replacement. The surgeon had an excellent

> reputation and following. One knee became superficially infected and led to 7

> weeks of vancomycin. Signs of infection were becoming apparent at discharge

from

> surgery follow up but overlooked.

> One knee got to 130 degrees with days, the superficially infected knee took

> weeks to get near that. Things can differ significantly outside of the

surgeon's

> realm or maybe through unknown effects by the patient. The difficult knee was

> the first one done in surgery for info.

>

> Nevertheless, data helps much more than " stories. "

>

> Rich L

> Green Bay, WI

>

>

>

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Alisa,

I think you are exactly right on this issue. Not only that the information

would be of no use to people who don't live in the US.,

Another thing that comes to mind is you could have the same surgeon for the

same operation and have totally different outcomes.

I did... the first revision shoulder was a nightmare most people would say

it wasn't a success but where I was a year ago its a success to me I can use

it, the second one I have 75% movement in under 8 weeks.

Thanks

-- Re: Doctor assessments

In answer to your question, I don't feel there is a need to single out

specific surgeons at this site. As consumers, you all should be doing your

research as to a surgeon's reputation and outcomes. This is a venue for you

all to share your experiences and you can bring up physician specific issues

I know nothing about these surgeons and it would be slanderous for me to

establish a folder based on the experiences brought up here.

I would suggest looking up your state's Medical Board, speaking to

outpatient physical therapists and your own primary physicians for reporting

on a Surgeon. They have the most information for you to make a decision on

based on their direct interactions with patients.

I have elected to run the forum in this manner...

Thanks for asking!

Alisa Curry PT DPT

Site Moderator

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